Time  Nick             Message
23:53 wahanui          !bang
23:53 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
23:45 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
23:45 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 48 points.
23:45 AnnaBoten        Longest time: Marie-Luce with 2335.16 seconds (this is your new longest time in this channel! Your previous longest time was 15.39)
23:45 AnnaBoten        Best time: hayley with 135.09 seconds
23:45 AnnaBoten        [('lisettelatah', 1), ('hayley', 1), ('Marie-Luce', 1)]
23:45 AnnaBoten        \_x< Marie-Luce: 1 (2335.16 seconds)
23:45 Marie-Luce       !bang
23:33 wizzyrea         of course
23:33 AnnaBoten        wizzyrea, you missed the duck!
23:33 wizzyrea         !bang
23:06 wahanui          !bang
23:06 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
22:58 AnnaBoten        \_x< lisettelatah: 1 (258.21 seconds)
22:58 lisettelatah     !bang
22:54 wahanui          *click*
22:54 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
22:49 DavidBarr        From*
22:49 DavidBarr        Im form Paraguay
22:49 DavidBarr        Is there any way to display the itemtype icon in the OPAC results list? Something like the staffside search results list. My idea is to avoid the use of DisplayOPACiconsXSLT and make the work easier for the cataloguers and display the icon based on the authorised value used un the 942$c field
22:47 DavidBarr        Hello!
22:45 AnnaBoten        \_x< hayley: 1 (135.09 seconds)
22:45 hayley           !bang
22:43 wahanui          oops, slipped over
22:43 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
22:35 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
22:35 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 48 points.
22:35 AnnaBoten        Best time: lisettelatah with 4.73 seconds
22:35 AnnaBoten        [('lisettelatah', 1), ('hayley', 1)]
22:35 AnnaBoten        \_x< lisettelatah: 1 (4.73 seconds)
22:35 lisettelatah     !bang
22:35 wahanui          oops, slipped over
22:35 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
22:31 AnnaBoten        There was no duck! lisettelatah: 0 (5.23 seconds)
22:31 AnnaBoten        \_x< hayley: 1 (5.20 seconds)
22:31 lisettelatah     !bang
22:31 hayley           !bang
22:31 wahanui          !bang
22:31 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
22:30 AnnaBoten        \_x< lisettelatah: 1 (4.89 seconds)
22:30 lisettelatah     !bang
22:30 wahanui          *click*
22:30 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
22:27 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
22:27 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 48 points.
22:27 AnnaBoten        Best time: hayley with 5.24 seconds
22:27 AnnaBoten        \o/ hayley: 3 ducks out of 3: perfect!!! +5 \o/
22:27 AnnaBoten        \_x< hayley: 3 (15.53 seconds)
22:27 hayley           !bang
22:27 wahanui          oops, slipped over
22:27 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
22:25 AnnaBoten        \_x< hayley: 2 (13.30 seconds)
22:25 hayley           !bang
22:25 wahanui          oops, slipped over
22:25 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
22:20 AnnaBoten        \_x< hayley: 1 (5.24 seconds)
22:20 hayley           !bang
22:20 wahanui          *click*
22:20 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
22:13 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
22:13 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 48 points.
22:13 AnnaBoten        Best time: lisettelatah with 19.02 seconds
22:13 AnnaBoten        [('lisettelatah', 2), ('aleisha', 1)]
22:13 AnnaBoten        \_x< aleisha: 1 (45.36 seconds)
22:13 aleisha          !bang
22:12 wahanui          !bang
22:12 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
22:09 AnnaBoten        \_x< lisettelatah: 2 (19.02 seconds)
22:09 lisettelatah     !bang
22:09 AnnaBoten        lisettelatah, you missed the duck!
22:09 lisettelatah     !bang
22:09 wahanui          !bang
22:09 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
22:06 AnnaBoten        \_x< lisettelatah: 1 (93.69 seconds)
22:06 lisettelatah     !bang
22:04 wahanui          !bang
22:04 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
21:55 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
21:55 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 48 points.
21:55 AnnaBoten        Longest time: aleisha with 505.99 seconds (this is your new longest time in this channel! Your previous longest time was 30.06)
21:55 AnnaBoten        Best time: aleisha with 6.77 seconds
21:55 AnnaBoten        [('aleisha', 2), ('hayley', 1)]
21:55 AnnaBoten        \_x< aleisha: 2 (505.99 seconds)
21:55 aleisha          !bang
21:46 wahanui          !bang
21:46 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
21:38 AnnaBoten        \_x< aleisha: 1 (6.77 seconds)
21:38 aleisha          !bang
21:38 wahanui          !bang
21:38 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
21:29 AnnaBoten        \_x< hayley: 1 (19.89 seconds)
21:29 hayley           !bang
21:29 wahanui          oops, slipped over
21:29 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
21:23 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
21:23 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 48 points.
21:23 AnnaBoten        Best time: aleisha with 5.58 seconds (this is your new record in this channel! Your previous record was 30.06)
21:23 AnnaBoten        [('aleisha', 2), ('hayley', 1)]
21:23 AnnaBoten        \_x< hayley: 1 (37.76 seconds)
21:23 hayley           !bang
21:22 wahanui          *click*
21:22 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
21:13 AnnaBoten        \_x< aleisha: 2 (6.31 seconds)
21:13 aleisha          !bang
21:13 wahanui          *click*
21:13 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
21:05 AnnaBoten        \_x< aleisha: 1 (5.58 seconds)
21:05 aleisha          !bang
21:05 wahanui          *click*
21:05 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
21:03 oleonard         See y'all later
20:57 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
20:57 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 48 points.
20:57 AnnaBoten        Best time: oleonard with 4.67 seconds
20:57 AnnaBoten        [('oleonard', 2), ('aleisha', 1)]
20:57 AnnaBoten        \_x< oleonard: 2 (4.67 seconds)
20:57 oleonard         !bang
20:57 wahanui          !bang
20:57 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
20:54 AnnaBoten        \_x< oleonard: 1 (15.85 seconds)
20:54 oleonard         !bang
20:54 wahanui          *click*
20:54 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
20:48 AnnaBoten        \_x< aleisha: 1 (30.06 seconds)
20:48 aleisha          !bang
20:47 wahanui          !bang
20:47 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
20:46 cait             ah cool, didn't see yet
20:45 caroline_catlady I think that is what blou added in his patch
20:45 cait             caroline_catlady: i guess maybe code was missed or removed that shoudl translate it in those other spots too
20:44 cait             oleonard: was wondering the same
20:37 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
20:37 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 48 points.
20:37 AnnaBoten        Best time: hayley with 5.07 seconds (this is your new record in this channel! Your previous record was 7.63)
20:37 AnnaBoten        [('hayley', 2), ('oleonard', 1)]
20:37 AnnaBoten        \_x< hayley: 2 (7.39 seconds)
20:37 hayley           !bang
20:37 wahanui          oops, slipped over
20:37 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
20:35 wizzyrea         O.o
20:30 oleonard         [off] I wonder if someone adding themselves to a CLOSED FIXED 3.4 bug report indicates that they're preparing to spam
20:28 AnnaBoten        \_x< oleonard: 1 (33.18 seconds)
20:28 oleonard         !bang
20:27 wahanui          *click*
20:27 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
20:24 wizzyrea         but apparently the bit that makes items from that quantity doesn't honor it
20:24 wizzyrea         aqorders quantity will max out at 32k bc it's a smallint
20:22 wizzyrea         yeah I think that's in order.
20:21 wizzyrea         lol
20:21 wizzyrea         no, no it is not.
20:21 hayley           that's not great
20:21 wizzyrea         if you have a good server, you might not even notice it until you can't search for the items because the indexer is like that duck.
20:21 oleonard         wizzyrea: Max length for the input maybe?
20:21 AnnaBoten        \_x< hayley: 1 (5.07 seconds)
20:21 hayley           !bang
20:21 wahanui          *click*
20:21 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
20:21 oleonard         Ouch
20:21 wizzyrea         which will cause the indexer to absolutely fry itself.
20:20 wizzyrea         today's fun oddity, if you scan a barcode or put a very large number into the "number to order" field in an order, you can end up with millions of items on a biblio
20:15 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
20:15 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 48 points.
20:15 AnnaBoten        Best time: lisettelatah with 49.63 seconds
20:15 AnnaBoten        [('lisettelatah', 2), ('oleonard', 1)]
20:15 AnnaBoten        \_x< oleonard: 1 (161.98 seconds)
20:15 oleonard         !bang
20:12 wahanui          oops, slipped over
20:12 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
20:04 AnnaBoten        \_x< lisettelatah: 2 (49.63 seconds)
20:04 lisettelatah     !bang
20:03 wahanui          *click*
20:03 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
20:00 AnnaBoten        \_x< lisettelatah: 1 (100.10 seconds)
20:00 lisettelatah     !bang
19:59 wahanui          oops, slipped over
19:59 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
19:54 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
19:54 AnnaBoten        Best time: lisettelatah with 3.39 seconds (this is your new record in this channel! Your previous record was 4.67)
19:54 AnnaBoten        [('oleonard', 2), ('lisettelatah', 1), ('tcohen', -1)]
19:54 AnnaBoten        \_x< oleonard: 2 (16.27 seconds)
19:54 oleonard         !bang
19:54 wahanui          *click*
19:54 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
19:47 AnnaBoten        \_x< oleonard: 1 (2128.37 seconds)
19:47 oleonard         !bang
19:31 tcohen           :-P
19:30 wahanui          *click*
19:30 AnnaBoten        tcohen, don't pretend to be me!
19:30 tcohen           \_o< quack!
19:15 AnnaBoten        tcohen, you missed the duck!
19:15 tcohen           !bang
19:11 wahanui          !bang
19:11 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
19:04 AnnaBoten        \_x< lisettelatah: 1 (3.39 seconds)
19:04 lisettelatah     !bang
19:04 wahanui          oops, slipped over
19:04 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
19:01 wahanui          *click*
19:01 AnnaBoten        kidclamp, don't pretend to be me!
19:01 kidclamp         \_o< quack!
19:00 AnnaBoten        There was no duck! tcohen: -1 (188.9 seconds)
19:00 tcohen           !bang
18:57 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 57 points.
18:57 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
18:57 AnnaBoten        Best time: lisettelatah with 4.70 seconds
18:57 AnnaBoten        [('lisettelatah', 2), ('kidclamp', 1)]
18:57 AnnaBoten        \_x< lisettelatah: 2 (4.70 seconds)
18:57 lisettelatah     !bang
18:57 wahanui          !bang
18:57 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
18:55 AnnaBoten        \_x< kidclamp: 1 (132.59 seconds)
18:55 kidclamp         !bang
18:53 wahanui          *click*
18:53 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
18:44 AnnaBoten        \_x< lisettelatah: 1 (422.41 seconds)
18:44 lisettelatah     !bang
18:44 AnnaBoten        lisettelatah, you missed the duck!
18:44 lisettelatah     !bang
18:37 wahanui          !bang
18:37 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
18:37 caroline_catlady right now, if I create a season with the French interface (with or without the french locale), the season name is saved in English in the db. in serials-collection, the name is translated, but it appears in English in serials-edit, subscription-detail, detal and opac-detail
18:36 cait             to Spring... or whatever the template says there
18:36 cait             it takes Spring from the db, and translates it
18:36 cait             +                    [% IF ( matches = serial.serialseq.match('Spring(.*)') ) %] +                        Spring[% matches.join("") %]
18:36 cait             look at these lines in the patch;
18:35 cait             i think it replaces
18:35 cait             caroline_catlady: is only the db in english or is the interface in french?
18:34 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 57 points.
18:34 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
18:34 AnnaBoten        Best time: lisettelatah with 6.34 seconds
18:34 AnnaBoten        [('lisettelatah', 2), ('kidclamp', 1), ('oleonard', -1)]
18:34 AnnaBoten        \_x< kidclamp: 1 (34.14 seconds)
18:34 kidclamp         !bang
18:34 AnnaBoten        Error: "banf" is not a valid command.
18:34 kidclamp         !banf
18:33 wahanui          *click*
18:33 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
18:32 caroline_catlady cait: well, if my interface is in french, there are several pages where the season is in english anyway because it is saved in english in the db. It works fine for day and month names, they are saved in french in the db
18:31 bag              I think I get the award for the longest times!!!
18:24 lisettelatah     thanks oleonard
18:24 oleonard         Good shot lisettelatah
18:24 AnnaBoten        There was no duck! oleonard: -1 (6.69 seconds)
18:24 oleonard         !bang
18:24 AnnaBoten        \_x< lisettelatah: 2 (6.34 seconds)
18:24 lisettelatah     !bang
18:24 wahanui          !bang
18:24 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
18:23 kidclamp         it's just a change log cait, tells us all the leaders :-)
18:22 AnnaBoten        \_x< lisettelatah: 1 (21.30 seconds)
18:22 lisettelatah     !bang
18:22 wahanui          *click*
18:22 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
18:21 cait             oleonard: we got the bot very confused
18:21 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 57 points.
18:21 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
18:21 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 48 points.
18:21 AnnaBoten        Best time: cait with 5.74 seconds (this is your new record in this channel! Your previous record was 6.42)
18:21 AnnaBoten        [('liliputech_asu', 1), ('cait', 1), ('bag', 1)]
18:21 AnnaBoten        \_x< cait: 1 (5.74 seconds)
18:21 cait             !bang
18:21 wahanui          !bang
18:21 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
18:21 cait             if your interface is french, you should see french seasons
18:20 cait             the locale pull down doesn#t have an effect
18:20 cait             so it always uses the language of the templates you are looking at
18:20 cait             caroline_catlady: po = one languuage
18:19 cait             s
18:19 * cait           wave
18:14 AnnaBoten        \_x< bag: 1 (19535.57 seconds)
18:14 bag              !bang
18:10 oleonard         The table probably had some custom styling which relied on the old DataTable assets... There's already been one other bug like that
18:09 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24169 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Advanced editor: icons/buttons for sorting the search results are missing
18:09 oleonard         Bug 24169 probably happened with the datatables upgrade
17:17 caroline_catlady if I understand correctly, bug 11262 added the seasons to the po, but my problem is that what is saved in the db doesn't follow what the librarian chose when creating the subscription
17:14 caroline_catlady not sure how blou intended to fix it, but I will send him the info
17:13 cait             it follows the template language since
17:13 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11262 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, Don't require hardcoded translations for seasonal numbering pattern to work
17:13 cait             caroline_catlady: i tihnk your seasons bug is related to bug 11262
16:00 reiveune         bye
15:42 corilynn         ok
15:38 Joubu            corilynn: I give up, there is no easy way to sort it before sending it to the template
15:16 corilynn         kewl
15:16 Joubu            corilynn: wait a minute, I am trying and see if I cannot fix the other "jump" :)
15:15 corilynn         shall I SO to yours then?
15:15 corilynn         ah, so it was!
15:14 corilynn         so it was doing that before?
15:13 Joubu            I will see if we cannot fix that as well
15:13 Joubu            that's something else
15:13 Joubu            ho right, I see
15:12 corilynn         maybe if i'm fast enough i can do two screenshots
15:12 corilynn         nope
15:12 Joubu            I think the jump you see is the arrows on the left of the module titles
15:12 corilynn         i'm at work, so i can't do the fun mac screenshot thing, but it appears to be loading then ordering
15:11 corilynn         hmm..
15:11 Joubu            it's already ordered when the screen is loaded
15:11 wahanui          corilynn: sorry...
15:11 corilynn         wahanui confusing me again
15:11 wahanui          no is that a thing? I was just thinking about how I like all kinds of chips and now I find out that there is a licorice flavor!
15:11 corilynn         no?
15:10 Joubu            nope
15:10 corilynn         http://staff-bug24170.sb1.sandboxes.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/admin/preferences.pl?op=search&searchfield=v
15:10 corilynn         however, it loads and then reorders
15:10 corilynn         yes, the feature works as advertised
15:09 Joubu            corilynn: without the patch, search for "d" in 3 different tabs of your browser, compare the result: they are not ordered identically
15:09 corilynn         there's a real term for that...
15:09 Joubu            "on the fly"?
15:03 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24170 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , sysprefs search result does not have a consistent order
15:03 corilynn         Joubu, i'm testing out bug 24170... it does the search and then reorders on the fly, kinda jumpy, but that's what you want?
15:02 corilynn         later
15:02 cait             sorry, have to go!
15:02 cait             ok, if prod is 19.05 it would not be there either way :)
15:02 corilynn         that explains that
15:02 cait             it's a 19.11 feature
15:02 cait             i think we didn't forceupdate them if they were mapped before
15:01 corilynn         ah
15:01 cait             it's a new column
15:00 corilynn         so, for my prod boxes (19.05) 'subtitle' isn't there, but it's there on my dev box (master)
15:00 cait             for default framework
14:59 cait             marc_subfield_structure
14:59 cait             the default framwork structure
14:57 corilynn         qq.. what populates the list for Home › Administration › Koha to MARC Mapping
14:53 tcohen           ok
14:53 cait             e
14:53 cait             tcohen: ok, not sure about that on
14:52 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24171 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Cannot do on-site checkouts/automatic renewal with Itemfallbacksearch
14:52 cait             boo bug 24171
14:51 ashimema         good catch.. I should do a file wide fix for that as a followup I reckon.. it's not just my changes that would need it
14:49 Joubu            s/must/should # you are following existing pattern
14:49 Joubu            ashimema: comparing float must be done with +0, to remove the precision
14:47 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24170 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , sysprefs search result does not have a consistent order
14:47 Joubu            bug 24170 - easy signoff for an annoying bug
14:47 ashimema         anyone else up to speed with MaxFine and Overdues, and Paying of Accruing overdues more than welcome to jump in ;)
14:47 ashimema         only asking you as I 'think' you still one of the closest to accounts/overdues
14:46 ashimema         tcohen.. any chance you could take a look at the test patch I've added to the above.. in particular the numbers around line 113.. I'm not 100% enough yet to go ahead and develop the fix
14:45 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24146 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Paying Accruing Fines prior to return causes another accruing fine when returned
14:45 ashimema         bug 24146
14:41 matts            tcohen, yes
14:41 tcohen           cait: I'm interested on the staff interface
14:40 tcohen           matts: around?
14:40 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Update of the OPAC bootstrap template to bootstrap v4
14:40 cait             bug 20168
14:40 huginn           tcohen: The operation succeeded.
14:40 tcohen           @later tell oleonard do you think we could upgrade bootstrap?
14:34 corilynn         ah, and 23013 is already pushed
14:33 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24169 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Advanced editor: icons/buttons for sorting the search results are missing
14:33 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23013 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Upgrade DataTables in the staff client
14:33 Joubu            bug 23013 caused bug 24169
14:33 corilynn         Joubu, are you saying when 23013 is fixed then 24169 will be? Or that they'll both need to be addressed?
14:15 thd              The wiki may be better suited to experimental demos such as "test this copy built from master today complete with an expected high bug count".
14:08 tcohen           hi all
14:04 fridolin         no pb
14:04 fridolin         wiki page is easier to edit, both can exist
13:56 cait             fridolin: we always had the demo site on the website... not sure when and how and why the wii page came to be too
13:54 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24169 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Advanced editor: icons/buttons for sorting the search results are missing
13:54 corilynn         cait, created Bug 24169
13:51 fridolin         this page should show alink to wiki no ?
13:51 fridolin         thanks a lot
13:51 fridolin         cait: no its ok, it uses our main URL demo.biblibre.com
13:50 corilynn         little indicator sort buttons, rather
13:50 corilynn         it still sorts, but there's no do-hickys
13:48 cait             https://koha-community.org/demo/
13:47 cait             fridolin: do you want to change the demo on the koha-website too?
13:47 corilynn         no errors
13:47 cait             any javascript error on the page?
13:46 corilynn         this is from a 19.05 instance: https://paste.pics/8694b71e22504d77439b877166ca5e77
13:46 cait             i never noticed them before .(
13:46 cait             pass
13:46 corilynn         does anyone know why the advanced cataloging editor search no longer has sorting bits at the top of the row? https://paste.pics/301f28373f9fc57756e401855fcb063b
13:42 corilynn         howdy, caroline_catlady
13:41 caroline_catlady good morning!
13:31 ashimema         lol
13:30 wahanui          github is great for that.. find a relevant line in the file then click the blame button untill you find the bug :)
13:30 cait             oleonard: github?
13:30 cait             oleonard: interesting tweet :)
13:27 magnuse          yeah, so the question is how to get the right stuff to display in the columns of the main ill table
13:24 ashimema         attributes are felxible.. it's basically a catchall for any fields a backend wants to impliment
13:24 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21079 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, CLOSED FIXED, Unify metadata schema across backends
13:24 magnuse          guess i missed bug 21079 when it happened
13:24 magnuse          hm, looks like there is stuff happening in FreeForm, not in Koha...
13:21 magnuse          i find it kind of hard to figure out the connection between a column in the ILL requests table and an illrequestattribute in the db...
13:20 * ashimema       will poke andrew over lunch
13:18 magnuse          ashimema: do you happen to know what the illrequestattributes must be called for "Issue" and "Volume" columns in the "View ILL requests" table to be populated?
13:17 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24108 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Advanced Editor: Save .mrc save with a configurable value
13:17 corilynn         i'd love some feedback on my test plan (and a SO) for bug 24108 before I try making a test plan for my dredded nemisis bug
13:16 huginn           Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_4_december_2019.2019-12-04-13.00.log.html
13:16 huginn           Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_4_december_2019.2019-12-04-13.00.txt
13:16 huginn           Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_4_december_2019.2019-12-04-13.00.html
13:16 huginn           Meeting ended Wed Dec  4 13:16:43 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
13:16 Joubu            #endmeeting
13:16 ashimema         thanks for stepping in Joubu
13:16 Joubu            switched from 2020 to 2010...
13:16 Joubu            #info Next meeting: 18 December 2019, 21 UTC
13:16 magnuse          that was quick
13:16 * ashimema       wishes he had a time machine
13:16 ashimema         well.. 2019 ;)
13:15 thd              I hope the electricity will work for me from California.
13:15 ashimema         works for me
13:15 Joubu            Next meeting: 18 December 2010, 21 UTC?
13:14 cait             not too bad
13:14 cait             18th
13:14 cait             but that might get us close to christmas
13:14 cait             usually 14
13:14 Joubu            15 days or 1 month?
13:14 Joubu            #topic Set time of next meeting
13:14 Joubu            closing then
13:13 Joubu            last minute addition?
13:13 Joubu            #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...)
13:13 cait             move on?
13:13 Joubu            nope
13:13 cait             Joubu: do you have something to add for QA?
13:13 cait             I've preached people should feel free to FQA for patches without test plan at conferences... so there is a danger there
13:12 cait             not only us looking at things, others too
13:12 oleonard         Yes I agree there should be something
13:12 cait             a note at least is nice
13:12 cait             Joubu: then put "read the diff"? :)
13:12 ashimema         +1
13:12 cait             well switching NSO is asking..
13:12 Joubu            if the patch comes from me and there is no test plan, it's expected. It means you need to understand what the patch does, reading the diff
13:12 ashimema         priority wise I'm thinking critical/major etc rather than RM_priiority for now
13:11 kohaputti        The test plans should be good even if you don't ask for testers...
13:11 cait             #info Remember to include good test plans, before asking someone to test your patches!
13:11 * ashimema       is terrible for that.. needs to take his own advice
13:11 cait             yeah, we were just discussing this earlier
13:11 ashimema         there's nothing worse than being asked to test and then going to the bug and having no idea what its trying to do
13:11 cait             #info Concentrating on priority bugs for next 2 weeks, after that slowsly starting to push new features/enh again, full speed in January
13:11 * ashimema       should highlight if you're asking for testers the test plans need to be good..
13:10 Joubu            RM_priority?
13:10 Joubu            priority bugs?
13:09 ashimema         concentrating on priority bugs for at least a couple of weeks.. then would like to broaden around xmas and start pushing features early jan
13:09 cait             #info We encourage people to ask for testers on the dev list or on IRC
13:09 kohaputti        lol
13:09 Joubu            kohaputti: if you are looking for something tricky, I can certainly find something for you :)
13:09 oleonard         cait: I would say ask here in IRC or on the dev list
13:09 ashimema         at the moment Lucas is trying to catch up on 19.05.. so I'm trying to give him as much time as I can before pushing too much
13:09 cait             I think usually people don't want to spam... but I have a few sitting bugs too
13:09 kohaputti        Joubu, I will check it out!
13:08 cait             oleonard: I like the thought - what would you thimk woudl be the best way to do it?
13:08 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24136 minor, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Add libraries (sponsors) to the about page
13:08 Joubu            kohaputti: if you are looking for something easy you can pick bug 24136
13:08 ashimema         oh.. yeah
13:08 cait             at the moment we are still focusing on bugs and clean-up after the release, still a bit early to get back feedback from testers in the wild
13:08 oleonard         I encourage people to ask for signoffs. I think if testers know the author is around and eager they'll be more likely to take something on
13:08 ashimema         ?
13:07 cait             ashimema: can your ghost tell us the schedule before pushing features agan? :)
13:07 cait             SO is a bit high, but that's to be expected because of the release etc. with 79 atm, NSO is almost 220... we need more people there
13:07 * ashimema       isn't really here.. company meeting in full flow
13:07 kohaputti        I'm still looking for my first QA patch to do
13:06 ashimema         rmaints are in the process of taking over today ;)
13:06 cait             We have quite some new names in the NSO and QA lists - please keep an eye out for people starting out and help them along!
13:06 cait             Joubu will change the dashboard to show all the major bugs - I hope it will make people clean up :)
13:05 cait             I think preparation has begun tho - RMaints
13:05 Joubu            #topic Updates from the QA team
13:05 Joubu            I guess not, they did not start yet
13:05 kidclamp         #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions
13:04 Joubu            #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
13:04 Joubu            thanks dude :)
13:04 Joubu            #info ashimema++
13:04 Joubu            #info 19.11 was released a little late, caused by a wait on both security patches being pushed to stable branches and a loss of contact with the packaging manager. Generally, RM is happy with the release!
13:04 Joubu            ashimema is not around, but let a note
13:03 Joubu            #topic Update from the Release manager (20.05)
13:03 Joubu            #info Koha 19.11 is out!
13:03 wahanui          i heard qa_team was cait  khall josef_moravec ashimema Joubu marcelr tcohen kohaputti kidclamp
13:03 cait             qa_team?
13:03 cait             qa_team
13:03 cait             qa_team is cait  khall josef_moravec ashimema Joubu marcelr tcohen kohaputti kidclamp
13:03 Joubu            Anyone have something?
13:02 Joubu            #topic Announcements
13:02 wahanui          cait: I forgot qa_team
13:02 cait             forget qa_team
13:02 Joubu            It should be a quick meeting as the agenda is empty
13:02 Joubu            need to update that
13:02 wahanui          qa_team is cait alex_a jajm khall josef_moravec ashimema Joubu marcelr tcohen rangi
13:02 Joubu            qa_team?
13:02 wahanui          rmaints is, like, fridolin, lucas and wizzyrea
13:02 cait             #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
13:02 Joubu            rmaints?
13:01 kohaputti        #info Joonas Kylmälä
13:01 oleonard         #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Athens, OH
13:01 wahanui          i don't know, joubu
13:01 Joubu            wahanui: not around?
13:01 thd              #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
13:01 Joubu            #info Jonathan Druart
13:01 Joubu            #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_4_December_2019
13:01 Joubu            #topic Introductions
13:00 huginn           The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_4_december_2019'
13:00 huginn           Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
13:00 huginn           Meeting started Wed Dec  4 13:00:48 2019 UTC.  The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
13:00 Joubu            #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 4 December 2019
13:00 kohaputti        ooh, was the dev meeting supposed to start now?
12:59 kohaputti        Joubu, though, it would be nice if you could write the test plan since I don't like that people modify other peoples patches... Since the co-authored-by thing is not a common thing.
12:59 cait             depends, prefs can be tricky, but there might be some good candidates
12:58 kohaputti        pref is probably faster to test than calendar
12:58 cait             kohaputti: yes, that would probably also work, pref changes have the same problem, also calendar in our experience
12:58 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19740 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Self checks calculating wrong due dates  / configuration changes go unnoticed
12:58 cait             it describes the issue we hope this will solve - i had filed a dup report originally - bug 19740
12:58 kohaputti        and with the patch it has effect
12:57 kohaputti        Joubu, with sip emulator it should be pretty easy, without the patch change some reserve setting for example in intranet, and see that it has no effect
12:57 cait             kohaputti: commented on the bug with a suggestion for a test plan
12:57 oleonard         Yo
12:56 thd              oooh unfalsifiability
12:54 Joubu            I have no idea how to test the patch, that's why there is no test plan
12:54 kohaputti        Joubu, I have not tested
12:53 Joubu            you tested it and it worked, so I guess you know what could be a good test plan? :)
12:53 kohaputti        Joubu, yes
12:53 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23640 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , L1 cache too long in SIP Server
12:53 Joubu            kohaputti: Is bug 23640 FQA because of missing test plan?
12:48 wahanui          *click*
12:48 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
12:46 AnnaBoten        \_x< liliputech_asu: 1 (234.14 seconds)
12:46 liliputech_asu   !bang
12:42 wahanui          oops, slipped over
12:42 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
12:42 ashimema         ;)
12:42 ashimema         just edit the wiki page
12:42 kohaputti        I was about to add one topic on the dev meeting agenda but I couldn't find a way to do that
12:41 ashimema         but.. on those lines.. for such bugs kohaputti I would suggest adding them to dev meeting agenda's to seek developer dicsussion and guidance.
12:40 ashimema         I can't really join the meeting today and suggest we postpone it for a week..
12:39 kohaputti        since it clearly needs more work
12:38 kohaputti        I added failed QA now
12:37 AnnaBoten        Error: "can't" is not a valid command.
12:37 cait             AnnaBoten:  can't decide?
12:37 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
12:37 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 48 points.
12:37 AnnaBoten        Best time: cait with 6.60 seconds
12:37 AnnaBoten        [('eythian', 1), ('chris_n', 1), ('cait', 1)]
12:37 AnnaBoten        \_x< cait: 1 (6.60 seconds)
12:37 cait             !bang
12:37 wahanui          *click*
12:37 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
12:37 cait             mostly used if there is a strong disagreement between 2
12:37 magnuse          kohaputti: "failed qa" - you don't thin the solution is good enough
12:37 cait             not strictly QA, but it needs some energy to get out of
12:36 chris_n          kohaputti: "In Discussion" would be my thought. But I seem to recall that status may be intended for QA related discussions.
12:34 kohaputti        see my latest comment.
12:33 huginn           Bug 23640: major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , L1 cache too long in SIP Server
12:33 kohaputti        What bug status for this would be appropriate: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23640 ?
12:33 AnnaBoten        \_x< chris_n: 1 (21.57 seconds)
12:33 chris_n          !bang
12:33 wahanui          oops, slipped over
12:33 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
12:25 AnnaBoten        \_x< eythian: 1 (17.60 seconds)
12:25 eythian          !bang
12:25 wahanui          *click*
12:25 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
12:18 eythian          wat
12:17 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
12:17 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 48 points.
12:17 AnnaBoten        Best time: cait with 99.06 seconds
12:17 AnnaBoten        [('cait', 2), ('eythian', 1)]
12:17 AnnaBoten        \_x< eythian: 1 (172.39 seconds)
12:17 eythian          !bang
12:14 wahanui          !bang
12:14 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
12:11 AnnaBoten        \_x< cait: 2 (99.06 seconds)
12:11 cait             !bang
12:09 wahanui          !bang
12:09 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
12:03 AnnaBoten        \_x< cait: 1 (529.77 seconds)
12:03 cait             !bang
11:55 wahanui          oops, slipped over
11:55 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
11:51 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
11:51 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 48 points.
11:51 AnnaBoten        Best time: ashimema with 17.12 seconds
11:51 AnnaBoten        [('calire', 2), ('ashimema', 1), ('corilynn', -1)]
11:51 AnnaBoten        \_x< ashimema: 1 (17.12 seconds)
11:51 ashimema         !bang
11:51 wahanui          !bang
11:51 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
11:49 Joubu            kohaputti: I wrote that wiki page :)
11:41 AnnaBoten        There was no duck! corilynn: -1 (20.99 seconds)
11:41 corilynn         !bang
11:41 AnnaBoten        \_x< calire: 2 (20.49 seconds)
11:41 calire           !bang
11:41 wahanui          *click*
11:41 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
11:33 AnnaBoten        \_x< calire: 1 (67.89 seconds)
11:33 calire           !bang
11:32 wahanui          *click*
11:32 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
11:31 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
11:31 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 48 points.
11:31 AnnaBoten        Best time: corilynn with 6.37 seconds
11:31 AnnaBoten        [('corilynn', 2), ('kidclamp', 1)]
11:31 AnnaBoten        \_x< kidclamp: 1 (95.75 seconds)
11:31 kidclamp         !bang
11:29 wahanui          *click*
11:29 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
11:25 fridolin         ahh oki
11:21 AnnaBoten        \_x< corilynn: 2 (22.03 seconds)
11:21 corilynn         !bang
11:21 AnnaBoten        corilynn, you are reloading... (Reloading takes 5 seconds)
11:21 corilynn         !bang
11:21 AnnaBoten        corilynn, you missed the duck!
11:21 corilynn         !bang
11:21 wahanui          oops, slipped over
11:21 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
11:19 AnnaBoten        \_x< corilynn: 1 (6.37 seconds)
11:19 corilynn         !bang
11:19 wahanui          oops, slipped over
11:19 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
11:13 Joubu            this one is correct, ->{status}
11:12 fridolin         from ILSDI
11:12 fridolin         return { code => $canitembereserved } unless $canitembereserved eq 'OK';
11:12 fridolin         my $canitembereserved = C4::Reserves::CanItemBeReserved( $borrowernumber, $itemnumber, $branch )->{status};
11:12 Joubu            that one, from request.pl
11:11 Joubu            fridolin: 571                     if ( $can_item_be_reserved ne 'itemAlreadyOnHold' ) {
11:11 corilynn         I think something is wrong with AnnaBoten's lead algo
11:11 fridolin         ah
11:11 Joubu            fridolin: yes it is, but I do not find several occurrences
11:10 AnnaBoten        oleonard took the lead for the week over cait with 56 points.
11:10 AnnaBoten        cait took the lead for the week over oleonard with 48 points.
11:10 AnnaBoten        Longest time: cait with 55416.90 seconds (this is your new longest time in this channel! Your previous longest time was 40301.59)
11:10 AnnaBoten        Best time: cait with 23.26 seconds
11:10 AnnaBoten        [('cait', 2), ('lisettelatah', 1)]
11:10 AnnaBoten        \_x< cait: 2 (23.26 seconds)
11:10 cait             !bang
11:10 Joubu            fridolin: it's not on master
11:09 wahanui          oops, slipped over
11:09 AnnaBoten        \_o< quack!
11:07 fridolin         Joubu: oh there are more places, use git grep CanItemBeReserved(
11:06 corilynn         wrote my first patch in FOREVER :) and it's not even 7AM yet here. Technically I wrote it last night...
11:04 ashimema         thanks for picking that up Joubu :)
11:03 fridolin         but if you can say its a valid critical
11:03 Joubu            that's definitely a bug, yes
11:02 fridolin         Joubu: no i can provide patch looks easy
11:02 Joubu            what means "have a look"? Do you want me to fix it?
11:02 cait             oh that looks like a JOubu one
11:02 fridolin         Joubu: thanks a lot
11:01 Joubu            fridolin: I will have a look
11:01 AnnaBoten        \_x< cait: 1 (55416.90 seconds)
11:01 cait             !bang
11:01 cait             fridolin: ?
11:00 cait             yes
10:59 fridolin         cait: around ?
10:59 fridolin         oki no pb
10:57 ashimema         sorry mate, in meetings the next few days.. only very loosely here.
10:57 wahanui          fridolin: wish i knew
10:57 fridolin         wahanui: i'm online ?
10:57 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24168 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Errors with use of CanItemBeReserved return value
10:57 fridolin         can you have a look at bug 24168
10:56 fridolin         ashimema: hi how do you do ?
09:18 cait             lol
09:10 eythian          rangi: I was at the pub a while ago and it ended up with someone asking me why USMARC has limitations on number of items. I blame you.
09:09 andreashm        all other columns (except the check-box for multiple edits) have classes.
09:08 andreashm        is there a reason why the holdings table doesn't have a class for barcode?
09:07 andreashm        hey
09:00 magnuse          \o/
08:57 cait             hi andreash
08:35 andreashm        salut
07:53 alex_a           Bonjour
07:49 fridolin         yolo
07:46 wahanui          salut, reiveune
07:46 reiveune         hello