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23:46 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #192: FIXED in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/192/
23:46 wahanui               Congratulations!
23:46 koha-jenkins          Yippee, build fixed!
23:37 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #193: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/193/
23:35 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #183: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/183/
23:09 Marie-Luce            exit
23:08 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #191: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/191/
23:05 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #192: FIXED in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/192/
23:05 wahanui               Congratulations!
23:05 koha-jenkins          Yippee, build fixed!
23:03 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #182: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/182/
21:06 thd                   Sadly, I will have to do other things again in a few hours until the beginning of next week as is my current schedule.
21:03 thd                   ashimema: I will sort the problem one way or another.  I hope it is not some trap that requires dropping the entire database cluster to resolve.
21:01 huginn                kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
21:01 kidclamp              @later tell fridolin please backport 23680
21:01 thd                   ashimema: I have not fully explored yet but I think the cause is that the user has permissions for more than one database instead of the username and database name are the same convention.
21:00 cait                  have a nice time of day all
21:00 * ashimema            heads off too now.. time to see the other half
20:59 ashimema              sorry thd, never had that sort of issue before..
20:59 ashimema              enjoy tea
20:59 ashimema              thanks liliputech_asu :0
20:58 thd                   role Whatever cannot be dropped because some objects depend on it
20:57 andreashm             bye all
20:56 liliputech_asu        will leave for dinner now (hungry ^^) good evening everyone :)
20:56 rangi                 cya
20:56 * oleonard            will see y'all tomorrow
20:56 ashimema              meetings script run :)
20:56 thd                   Has anyone experienced Postgres refusing to drop a database or user?
20:55 liliputech_asu        :)
20:55 ashimema              lol
20:55 oleonard              :D
20:55 AnnaBoten             liliputech_asu's karma is now 1
20:55 oleonard              !liliputech_asu++
20:55 liliputech_asu        ashimema++ then :)
20:55 lisettelatah          ashimema++
20:55 oleonard              Oh no competing karma tracking
20:55 thd                   I need some advice about a little Postgres difficulty.
20:54 AnnaBoten             ashimema's karma is now 1
20:54 liliputech_asu        !ashimema++
20:54 cait                  ashimema++
20:54 caroline_crazycatlady ashimema++
20:54 davidnind             ashimema++
20:54 huginn                Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_13_november_2019.2019-11-13-20.01.log.html
20:54 huginn                Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_13_november_2019.2019-11-13-20.01.txt
20:54 huginn                Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_13_november_2019.2019-11-13-20.01.html
20:54 huginn                Meeting ended Wed Nov 13 20:54:24 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
20:54 ashimema              #endmeeting
20:54 ashimema              thankyou everyone for attending :)
20:54 ashimema              #info Next meeting: 11 December 2019, 14 UTC
20:53 caroline_crazycatlady thank you!
20:53 ashimema              ok.. 14 it is then
20:52 liliputech_asu        Still works for me as well
20:52 ashimema              14 works for me still
20:52 ashimema              11 December 2019, 13 UTC
20:52 caroline_crazycatlady can you do 14utc?
20:51 ashimema              so.. for clarity thats
20:51 liliputech_asu        *thumbsup*
20:51 ashimema              brill
20:51 liliputech_asu        any would do for me =)
20:51 ashimema              erm.. 1pm UTC I believe at this time of year
20:51 andreashm             early one sounds good. =)
20:51 rangi                 save that for january
20:50 ashimema              or, rangi, are you guys going to be starting to ramp up kohacon20 thought and as such shall we do a later one again?
20:50 liliputech_asu        which is the earlier slot?
20:50 ashimema              shall we stick to the 'flip/flop' time arrangment and go with the earlier slot..
20:49 thd                   I may be flying to California that day but +1.
20:49 davidnind             +1
20:49 caroline_crazycatlady good
20:49 liliputech_asu        great :)
20:49 cait                  yep
20:48 ashimema              11th December sounds reasonable for people?
20:48 cait                  ah THAT topic :)
20:48 ashimema              #topic Set date and time for next meeting
20:47 ashimema              onto our last topic..
20:47 ashimema              Thankyou everyone
20:46 huginn                yes (13): davidnind, liliputech_asu, lisettelatah, andreashm, ashimema, bag, cait, rangi, caroline_crazycatlady, oleonard, thd, aleisha, donna
20:46 huginn                Voted on "Do we agree to the release team as proposed on https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_20.05 with the exception that the 19.11 release maintainer is still to be found?" Results are
20:46 ashimema              #endvote
20:46 ashimema              1
20:46 ashimema              2
20:46 ashimema              3
20:46 liliputech_asu        cait++
20:46 cait                  civic duties... right?
20:46 liliputech_asu        (just realizing than much API stuff I've been looking around for couple months is on 19.11... :)
20:46 cait                  :)
20:46 * ashimema            watches all the people come out of the woodwork to vote and then dissapear again
20:45 davidnind             #vote yes
20:45 donna                 #vote yes
20:45 oleonard              #vote yes
20:45 bag                   #vote yes
20:44 caroline_crazycatlady #vote yes
20:44 thd                   #vote yes
20:44 ashimema              #vote yes
20:44 lisettelatah          #vote yes
20:44 cait                  #vote yes
20:44 andreashm             #vote yes
20:44 liliputech_asu        #vote yes
20:44 aleisha               #vote yes
20:44 rangi                 #vote yes
20:44 huginn                Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
20:44 huginn                Begin voting on: Do we agree to the release team as proposed on https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_20.05 with the exception that the 19.11 release maintainer is still to be found? Valid vote options are yes, no, obstain.
20:44 ashimema              #startvote Do we agree to the release team as proposed on https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_20.05 with the exception that the 19.11 release maintainer is still to be found? yes,no,obstain
20:43 ashimema              ok.. just phrasing the vote
20:43 liliputech_asu        m'kay
20:43 ashimema              lets vote on the rest and we can shuffle the rmaint around a bit as we finalise the details
20:42 rangi                 we'll sort it out
20:42 ashimema              thanks tcohen for sticking around.. I realise it was home time for you a little while ago
20:42 rangi                 you can flip it around if you want, put catalyst in 19.11, and you in 18.11 liliputech_asu
20:41 tcohen                I need to leave, count me as a positive vote please :-D
20:41 liliputech_asu        but if it's non relevant then I may fit in 19.11 then
20:41 oleonard              Is it the same for you rangi?
20:40 liliputech_asu        rangi: if I'm going to apply to an RMaint role, i think it makes more sense that I apply for 18.11 rmaint since that's the release we currently support for our client
20:40 cait                  shall we vote in liliputech_asu ? :)  he could still step back :P
20:39 ashimema              Shall we vote on the page is it now stands.. or does anyone have any specifics they'd like to query first?
20:39 ashimema              OK.. so..
20:39 liliputech_asu        oleonard = evil genius ;)
20:38 ashimema              brill.. I feel a little more confident now :)
20:38 andreashm             liliputech_asu++
20:38 liliputech_asu        I already have most of the technical stuff installed by the way :)
20:37 tcohen                hahaha
20:37 liliputech_asu        hah! ^^
20:37 oleonard              liliputech_asu: If we all vote for you he'll have no choice!
20:37 ashimema              Shall we vote on what we've got and I'll keep hunting for a name to put on that role in the lead up to this release.
20:37 liliputech_asu        'kay. got to talk to paul_p about it, i would happily apply but guess I shouldn't do it without his approval? :)
20:36 kidclamp              I can help too betwen your timezones
20:35 rangi                 sounds good
20:35 ashimema              I'm happy to mentor too.. that way we'd have pretty much all timezones covered.. rangi and I being on oposite side of the globe and all.
20:35 cait                  but you should do a fair bit of testing especially if there have been conflicts
20:34 cait                  that usually worked quite well
20:34 cait                  if something didn't apply, I pushed it back to devs for rebase
20:34 ashimema              agreed.. they're important roles, but it's as much about process as anything.. the technicalityof it isn't that challenging (and you can always push back on devs for help for the technical bits)
20:34 cait                  it's not super hard once you have set everything up
20:33 cait                  I tink the important bit is to dedicate time regularly
20:33 ashimema              that would be fantastic rangi... I was thinking simlar thoughts.. happy to mentor but also know the level of commitment I already have as rm
20:32 liliputech_asu        well. given we don't use 19.11 @biblibre I don't think anyone will fit the position. would have more sense than someone from biblibre work a bit on 18.11. I proposed Paul to do it but being junior he thought it would have been early
20:32 cait                  ok, that English didn't work so well
20:32 cait                  and see if someone steps up?
20:32 cait                  sowe could rangi's offer... we have a backup plan
20:31 rangi                 yep
20:31 tcohen                is the 19.11 Rmaint the only empty position?
20:30 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_Master_U18 build #475: FIXED in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/475/
20:30 oleonard              That's a great offer!
20:30 wahanui               Congratulations!
20:30 koha-jenkins          Yippee, build fixed!
20:30 rangi                 so that someone who wants to try can, with the knowledge they can lean on me
20:30 rangi                 for 19.11
20:30 rangi                 i volunteer as mentor
20:30 rangi                 how about
20:29 ashimema              ++
20:29 ashimema              development will suffer if we're pulling resources out of SO and QA pools.
20:29 rangi                 snap ashimema :)
20:29 ashimema              if it comes to it I could share some of the rmaint load.. but it feels like we're really starting to pull on the same small group of people for everything..
20:29 rangi                 if no one else does, I can help cait with 19.11 (she is vitally important to QA, so I wouldn't want to take away from that, so would prefer if someone else did it)
20:27 ashimema              thanks thd
20:27 andreashm             cait++
20:27 ashimema              biblibre felt they didn't have anyone with the expertise to step into any rmaint roles.. Frido needs a well deserved break from it
20:27 cait                  but the 19.11 is the most busy, so it takes a lot of time
20:27 thd                   I added my name.
20:27 cait                  but i will do it if we can't come up with another solution
20:27 cait                  and if you want me to do less QA...
20:26 cait                  tcohen
20:26 tcohen                :-P
20:26 tcohen                cait
20:25 ashimema              Does anyone have any thoughts on a stable rmaint?
20:25 thd                   It already works but just missing some pieces.
20:24 davidnind             thd++
20:24 thd                   I am about to have a working migration script.
20:24 ashimema              ++
20:24 cait                  caroline_crazycatlady++ davidnind++
20:24 davidnind             caroline_crazycatlady++
20:24 caroline_crazycatlady (love the docs plan)
20:24 thd                   Yes, I would have added my name but I wanted to finish the migration first.
20:23 ashimema              be nice to get that migration completed ;)
20:23 caroline_crazycatlady davidnind: ok, I'll do the nitty gritty (taiga, gitlab) and you can do the broader stuff which you started to do brilliantly
20:23 ashimema              thd, are you not standing for wiki curator?
20:23 ashimema              correct cait
20:22 cait                  ok, so missing the 19.11 rmaint now, right?
20:22 ashimema              share the role, share the load :)
20:21 davidnind             catalyst++
20:21 ashimema              sounds like a great idea to me caroline_crazycatlady
20:21 davidnind             caroline_crazycatlady: sounds like a plan
20:21 ashimema              catalyst++
20:21 tcohen                catalyst+++
20:21 caroline_crazycatlady davidnind: do you want to continue? I was thinking of you as a strategy manager and I could be operations manager?
20:21 rangi                 we'll work out who later
20:21 rangi                 someone from catalyst will do 18.11
20:20 davidnind             caroline_crazycatlady: Will try and do a bit better this time:-D
20:20 ashimema              Names, RMaint's for 19.11 and 18.11
20:20 cait                  but i think we should still have the vote and then add them later?
20:20 caroline_crazycatlady docs manager that is
20:20 ashimema              We are still missing a couple of key positions I'm afraid.. I've been trying to temp various people but haven't suceeded yet.
20:20 caroline_crazycatlady I'm willing to let davidnind continue as manager
20:19 cait                  yep
20:19 oleonard              uh oh... short on release maintainers?
20:19 ashimema              #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_20.05 20.05 Roles
20:18 ashimema              #topic Election of 20.05 release team
20:18 ashimema              onto the next topic we march
20:18 ashimema              ok.. don't think any of the rmaints are present so I can't think of any other updates to give there..
20:17 ashimema              #info 19.05 et al missed their release window in October due to too many other commitments so the November release will be a bumper one.
20:16 ashimema              #info 19.11 has progressed nicely the last few weeks, thanks to all for their hard work.. We're entering string freeze as of the end of this meeting.
20:15 ashimema              #topic Update on releases
20:15 davidnind             Koha is everywhere :)
20:15 ashimema              moving on then
20:14 davidnind             #info Nice write-up of the Maldives Library Association and National Library Koha training https://infomalias.wordpress.com/2019/11/12/completed-a-successful-koha-training/
20:14 ashimema              any other announcements?
20:14 ashimema              great, thanks..
20:14 ashimema              #info KohaCon20 Sponsorship conversations are underway. Cash donations are welcome but organisations sending deligate will also be acknowledged :)
20:14 aleisha               those are the key updates for now, any other news will be posted to the list :)
20:13 aleisha               sounds great
20:12 ashimema              ptfs-e have asked for internal submissions by the end of this week.. just trying to work out who to send etc then we'll submit up to you guys shortly.
20:12 aleisha               also we'll be updating on sponsorship soon but we have started having some conversations already. at this point we are accepting cash sponsorship as well as acknowledging organisations that sponsor their people to attend in work time
20:11 rangi                 #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT, New Zealand
20:11 ashimema              ooh.. fire away :)
20:11 aleisha               so as davidnind already noted, talk submissions close on 1 december so get them in!
20:10 davidnind             #info The third Pakisatan Kohacon is 16-18 April 2020 in Lahore, Pakistan http://2020.kohapakistan.org/
20:10 aleisha               i have kohacon updates!
20:10 cait                  rangi: KohaCon20? :)
20:10 caroline_crazycatlady lol! I feel underwhelmed!
20:10 ashimema              thinks davidnind.. any other kohacon20 updates?
20:10 cait                  caroline_crazycatlady: would be nice, eh? :)
20:09 ashimema              ah.. perhaps not fully there yet then.. I'll catch him after the meeting.
20:09 caroline_crazycatlady yeah, mine is 100% done... ??
20:09 cait                  https://translate.koha-community.org/de/19.11/ - it probably just takes a little while longer
20:09 ashimema              though listed at the bottom instead of the top for some reason.
20:09 cait                  only have like 6 changes for German, that seems unrealistic :)
20:09 ashimema              I see them on translate cait?
20:08 davidnind             #info Kohacon20 - Submissions for talks close on 1 December https://2020.kohacon.org/posts/talksubmission/
20:08 cait                  not on translate yet, but that might take a bit longer
20:08 ashimema              Did I spot rangi a second ago..?
20:07 caroline_crazycatlady [off] lol tcohen! Exactly!
20:07 ashimema              Bernardo has already created the new branch on translate.koha-community.org for me and uploaded the strings.
20:07 tcohen                [off] it felt like bag just entered the tavern in the far west
20:07 ashimema              #info We are entering string freeze for the 19.11 release as of the end of this meeting. Go forth and translate :)
20:06 ashimema              #topic Announcements
20:06 ashimema              Right.. few more of us here nw :)
20:05 liliputech_asu        :)
20:05 ashimema              :)
20:05 bag                   :P
20:05 ashimema              nice entrance there bag
20:05 bag                   #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater
20:05 aleisha               #info Aleisha Amohia, Catalyst IT, New Zealand
20:05 ashimema              haha
20:05 liliputech_asu        my first koha general meeting :)
20:05 AnnaBoten             There is no hunt right now! You can start a hunt with the 'start' command
20:05 bag                   !bang
20:05 caroline_crazycatlady (sorry, I'm used to mdocs meetings with like 3 ppl)
20:05 andreashm             =)
20:05 khall                 #info Kyle Hall, ByWater Solutions
20:04 caroline_crazycatlady thin? this is a crowd!
20:04 davidnind             #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand
20:04 ashimema              we'll wait a few more mins
20:04 ashimema              hmm.. feels a little thin on the ground..
20:03 cait                  #info Katrin Fischer, Germany
20:02 thd                   #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
20:02 oleonard              [off] "Nick not in channel?" kidclamp is right there
20:02 tcohen                #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions
20:02 liliputech_asu        #info Arthur Suzuki, BibLibre, FR
20:02 andreashm             #info Andreas Hedström Mace, Stockholm University Library, Sweden
20:01 lisettelatah          #info Lisette Scheer, Latah County Library District, USA
20:01 huginn                Current chairs: ashimema cait rangi
20:01 huginn                Warning: Nick not in channel: cait
20:01 ashimema              #chair cait
20:01 huginn                Current chairs: ashimema rangi
20:01 ashimema              #chair rangi
20:01 caroline_crazycatlady #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro, Montréal, Canada
20:01 ashimema              #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS-Europe, UK
20:01 oleonard              #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA
20:01 ashimema              #info Please introduce yourselves using "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes
20:01 ashimema              #topic Introductions
20:01 huginn                The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_13_november_2019'
20:01 huginn                Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
20:01 huginn                Meeting started Wed Nov 13 20:01:13 2019 UTC.  The chair is ashimema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:01 ashimema              #startmeeting General IRC meeting 13 November 2019
19:51 * andreashm           waves
19:47 ashimema              evenin' #koha
19:47 caroline_crazycatlady hi rangi
19:47 oleonard              Hi rangi
19:46 rangi                 morning
19:40 tcohen                awesome oleonard!
19:40 oleonard              Oh wait, may have changed my config during troubleshooting...
19:39 oleonard              tcohen: I'm making progress. Everything works now except sync_repo
19:09 caroline_crazycatlady I envy you! I had to wrench myself away from my book to come back from lunch break
19:06 cait                  ok, back to my book
19:06 cait                  i blame the vacation :)
19:06 ashimema              Phew
19:06 ashimema              Hope it's in an hour.. I've still got to get the kids into bed etv
19:05 caroline_crazycatlady I also have it in an hour in my calendar
19:05 oleonard              https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Koha+General+IRC+Meeting&iso=20191113T2000
19:04 oleonard              In an hour I think
19:04 cait                  is it not meeting time?
19:03 cait                  sorry, a little late
18:41 tcohen                on your windows
18:41 tcohen                it says you need rsync
18:41 tcohen                https://www.vagrantup.com/docs/synced-folders/rsync.html
18:40 tcohen                locate vagrant
18:40 tcohen                updatedatabase
18:40 tcohen                that's the hint
18:32 oleonard              tcohen: No such file or directory
18:29 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1004: FIXED in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1004/
18:29 wahanui               Congratulations!
18:29 koha-jenkins          Yippee, build fixed!
18:28 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_Master_U18 build #474: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/474/
18:28 tcohen                I would like to see the output of ls /vagrant
18:27 tcohen                oleonard: can you vagrant ssh on that failed kohadevbox at all?
18:25 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #16: FIXED in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/16/
18:25 wahanui               Congratulations!
18:25 koha-jenkins          Yippee, build fixed!
18:20 tcohen                [off] this is why I would like to have a windows box
18:13 oleonard              ...but even with that fix I still have a problem with the next stage, which I've mentioned before: "`playbook` does not exist on the guest: /vagrant/site.yml"
18:12 oleonard              This seems to work: https://github.com/dotless-de/vagrant-vbguest/issues/351#issuecomment-545391139
18:12 oleonard              https://github.com/dotless-de/vagrant-vbguest/issues/351
18:12 oleonard              I found an interesting thread related to some of my kohadevbox problems
18:12 oleonard              Hi tcohen I was just about to ping you
18:05 wahanui               hi, tcohen
18:05 tcohen                hi
17:49 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_Master_D8 build #536: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/536/
17:41 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1003: UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1003/
17:28 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #15: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 1 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/15/
17:17 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23854: Fix failure on dates when editing a suggestion <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=73198bc4bdafa6817c916c777a51a73d937ba2aa>
17:10 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_Master_U18 build #473: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/473/
16:58 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_Master_D8 build #535: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/535/
16:57 oleonard              Hi wizzyrea
16:52 wizzyrea              hi
16:30 ashimema              hehe, no worries
16:30 corilynn              ...and I already can't make the first meeting
16:27 corilynn              cait, thank you! I finally got it to work!
16:25 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23825: Koha/Object.t might fail on a backtick <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=480afea9ddf642fbd6ec499172e5ef6400905424>
16:25 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23825: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a2c5d665e67bdc050c44030cc75ca732970f9da>
16:25 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23825: (QA follow-up) Remove database name <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e5cdf8854473d6c766816355d080376afa1766d5>
16:25 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23825: table name is not always displayed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0498ffb6336cd5c3f5c580181c513bff968b8c58>
16:24 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23822: Fix deletion of patrons with credit <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d23e50f0b239603a05ddbb62591e80657f5f6cae>
16:24 sev_q                 good bye #koha ! It was a great day :)
16:12 caroline_crazycatlady I based my bug off of 17480, which suggest a validation for YAML
16:11 oleonard              I thought maybe there was an omnibus bug about converting such prefs to YAML but I don't see one.
16:10 caroline_crazycatlady I want to update the manual for sysprefs using YAML syntax on how to properly format your content
16:07 caroline_crazycatlady ok, good to know, thanks!
16:07 oleonard              The descriptions of those don't suggest YAML to me
16:06 caroline_crazycatlady For some, it's specified in the db, but not all
16:05 caroline_crazycatlady Can someone "in the know" confirm that these sysprefs require YAML syntax? AuthorityControlledIndicators, ItemsDeniedRenewal
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16:00 cait                  i confirmed your request
15:57 cait                  let me check
15:57 cait                  corilynn: it needs moderation
15:53 corilynn              I tried making another account on the wiki "corilynn.arnold" but still no love :(
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15:10 wahanui               Congratulations!
15:10 koha-jenkins          Yippee, build fixed!
15:09 caroline_crazycatlady I see a serene face
15:09 oleonard              ~-~ oh no there's a bird in here
15:09 cait                  hi oleonard :)
15:08 caroline_crazycatlady hi oleonard -~
15:05 oleonard              Hi #koha
14:59 cait                  yep
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14:58 Joubu                 cait: thanks. If the bug was a feature (...), we will deal with it on a separate bug report
14:45 cait                  I've added my test plan to the commit message
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14:39 cait                  ah ok, changing to no status
14:39 cait                  still onthing in the logs with strict
14:37 cait                  .. among strange behaviour
14:37 cait                  it's hard to see the bug
14:35 Joubu                 the code is super buggy
14:34 cait                  it just resets to today
14:34 cait                  and I still can't change the accepted on date..
14:34 cait                  youcan change the 'managed by' date... but saving is a 'managing' so it just changes it back to today...
14:34 cait                  the gui is ocnfusing
14:32 Joubu                 ignore it
14:32 Joubu                 nope,
14:31 cait                  there is no dependency... shoudl i test witout it?
14:31 cait                  Joubu: what's with the second patch there?
14:31 cait                  oh true
14:30 sev_q                 do you think it could happen ? for if the suggestion is not 'accepted', you can't order it
14:29 sev_q                 oh I see...
14:28 cait                  and you could still manually remove it
14:28 cait                  I was leaning that way too, then i wondered... if the library is using a custom status that is set bettween acceted and ordered?
14:27 sev_q                 cait : to me, the date should be cleared
14:26 cait                  hm also see ow that date changes don't save
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14:23 cait                  sev_q: suggestion question for you: if I change the status of a suggestion from 'accepted' to another status, shoudl teh 'accepted on' be kept? say i change it to 'No status' or 'rejected'
14:16 Joubu                 cait: pm
14:15 cait                  (kind of a strange thing to apologize for)
14:15 cait                  Joubu: sorry... still all working nicely
14:14 sev_q                 hi caroline_crazycatlady !
14:14 cait                  so that kinda makes sense that it set today's date
14:14 cait                  oh, i deleted the dates earlier to provoke an error
14:14 cait                  good morning caroline_crazycatlady
14:14 caroline_crazycatlady good morning!
14:14 cait                  it was created on another day
14:14 cait                  but I hsouldn't
14:14 cait                  i have
14:14 cait                  hm yes
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14:13 cait                  trying that...
14:13 cait                  no, it's an older suggestion
14:12 Joubu                 do you have the 3 dates set to today?
14:12 cait                  and status is unknown now
14:12 Joubu                 is the status updated?
14:12 cait                  Joubu: still nothing
14:11 ashimema              that's why the tests fail randomly for me and why I had to code in that 'make holiday always a day later'
14:11 Joubu                 => status is not updated and there is an error in the log
14:11 cait                  btw, there is another for sev_q: No Status
14:11 cait                  ok, trying
14:11 Joubu                 cait: edit, change the status to "no status", save
14:11 ashimema              even though hours_between and days_between don't mention this in their POD and as such could plausably be used on any days including closed one's..
14:10 ashimema              yes.. Koha::Calander assumes you simply cannot checkout on a closed day and as such it always skips that day
14:10 ashimema              I remember now..
14:08 cait                  Joubu: it all behaves
14:08 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23974 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , hours_between and days_between lack tests
14:08 cait                  but people... test plans -> commit message! ;)
14:08 ashimema              how on earth did I miss the FIXME's in bug 23974.. thanks for pointing them out directly Joubu.. must have been a late night when i checked through that again.
14:07 cait                  ok, checking logs
14:07 Joubu                 or maybe it does, I do not remember
14:07 Joubu                 it does not explode on the UI
14:07 cait                  but no explosions
14:07 Joubu                 and comment 3
14:07 cait                  i tried that
14:06 Joubu                 cait: see comment 1
14:05 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23854 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cannot edit a suggestion
14:05 cait                  Joubu: I have problems reproducing the problem on bug 23854 - also missing a test plan...
14:04 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23985: (bug 21206 follow-up) Fix checkout list when "Hold pickup library match... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=17d221144605875b6efb1569093b76f412f8aea5>
14:04 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 24026: (bug 22847 follow-up) Remove c/p issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ad2bedb97712b4d574d6779ceff9753558c1db0>
14:04 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 24026: (bug 22847 follow-up) Display correctly max[onsite]issueqty (not the propa... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c4ca7bff689a37debc7aa850fdd42bfc5a19386e>
14:03 ashimema              :)
14:02 cait                  already commented
14:02 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24008 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Attempting to delete a patron with outstanding credits should warn and block the deletion.
14:02 ashimema              bug 24008 ;)
14:01 ashimema              see the bug I added as a clone for that ;)
13:59 cait                  as an enh
13:59 cait                  can be overwriten, but you get it pointed out
13:59 cait                  for credits
13:59 ashimema              correct.. for 'credits'.. but do the test for outstanding debits.. you should get a confirmation for that
13:59 cait                  we could do a warning, like we have for holds now
13:58 * ashimema            has been down this road before now he thinks about it.
13:58 cait                  no ocnfirmation then
13:58 cait                  debits block
13:58 ashimema              I think that was by design originally as it happens.. libraries didn't care about giving money back to patrons but they certainly do care if the patron owes them..
13:57 cait                  watching the screencasthelped
13:57 ashimema              'do you really want to' but only for outstanding debits.. it now ignore outstanding credits entirely.
13:56 Joubu                 cait: nope, that will be on the other bug report
13:55 Joubu                 patch*
13:55 cait                  so the ocnfirmatio is not 'has credits' but 'do you really want to...'?
13:55 ashimema              master too i believe
13:55 Joubu                 but the patches is needed 'just in case'
13:54 cait                  hm we don't even mention the credits
13:54 ashimema              it makes it appear properly again for debts.. but deletes silently for credits
13:54 Joubu                 if you are testing on master you won't see any changes indeed
13:54 ashimema              oh.. sorry.. your right
13:54 cait                  and on master?
13:54 Joubu                 on 19.05!
13:54 Joubu                 it makes the confirmation box reappears
13:54 Joubu                 yes it does
13:53 ashimema              yeah.. this patchset doesn't add any form of confirmation
13:53 ashimema              I'd really like to see that followup at some point.. which adds a confirmation
13:53 Joubu                 confirmation in any cass
13:53 cait                  so... no confirmation?
13:53 ashimema              and created a new bug to do the followup enhancement
13:53 ashimema              he's right.. we used to silently delete such users and hence I reworked the bug to state we're restoring the original functionality..
13:53 cait                  yep trying
13:52 ashimema              mm... I tested using Theodoros's description plus Jonathans reply
13:51 ashimema              yes it is
13:50 cait                  there is no test plan
13:50 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23822 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Regression: As of 19.05.04 deletion of patrons with outstanding credits is silently blocked
13:50 cait                  ashimema: is the patch on bug 23822 for both master an d19.05?
13:48 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24033 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fix column labelling on basket summary page (ecost)
13:48 cait                  bug 24033
13:47 Joubu                 ashimema: so the extending the sleep fixed it?
13:45 ashimema              woop, woop.. D8 just passed.. it's not passed in ages!
13:45 ashimema              poor sev_q.. she's rapidly having a queue of bugs built for her. ;p
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13:43 wahanui               Congratulations!
13:43 koha-jenkins          Yippee, build fixed!
13:42 cait                  sev_q: i have another typo if you want - filing it now
13:42 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23765: Do not display localized templates if TranslateNotices is off <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=86f999812e1fb281742d79757964227ea0f5d330>
13:40 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23779 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add sample matching rule for authority records on $1xx field matches
13:39 corilynn              sev_q, bug 23779 might be even easier
13:39 wahanui               ashimema: sorry...
13:39 ashimema              wahanui does seem to get a little confused sometimes
13:39 ashimema              lol
13:38 cait                  bit outdated
13:38 wahanui               cait: I forgot ashimema
13:38 cait                  forget ashimema
13:38 cait                  forget or ashimema
13:38 cait                  ashimema++ for being polite and corilynn++ :)
13:38 wahanui               ashimema is RMaint for 18.05 ?
13:38 corilynn              or ashimema
13:38 corilynn              well, thank you for inviting me, ahimema
13:38 ashimema              :)
13:38 ashimema              all good.. it's great to have you aboard and it gives you recognition for something you're doing already really.
13:37 corilynn              I also use the tools area A LOT
13:37 corilynn              AH!
13:37 ashimema              ashimema = Mratin Renvoize ;)
13:37 corilynn              and I'm happy to do it, but I'm going to hang out in my cataloging corner of the universe
13:36 corilynn              lol, I was asked politely by Martin Renvoize to add myself to the bugwrangling group
13:36 cait                  corilynn: i only have lmited permissions and no server access - so we probably need someone higher up
13:35 * ashimema            quitely hopes thats becuase corilynn wanted to add herself to the aformentioned page :)
13:35 ashimema              lol
13:34 * cait                tries the bettlejuice trick
13:34 cait                  gmcharlt: ... gmcharlt.... gmcharlt...
13:34 corilynn              yes, but it still isn't working, cait
13:34 cait                  corilynn: i think I already looked into that... hm
13:33 corilynn              can someone fix my wiki access? I never got a password, and it won't send me a new one
13:33 ashimema              there's certainly a good feeling when something you've worked on makes the grade :)
13:33 ashimema              me too... ;)
13:32 corilynn              I still jump up and down when a bug I reported gets fixed too, cait. I do a happy dance when I've fixed it myself!
13:32 liliputech_asu        \o/
13:31 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 24029: Remove "Truncated incorrect DOUBLE value: '01e'" from marcrecord2csv.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5aa8db502cee2a86e6da29d5ab12b924275c9df6>
13:31 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 24030: Fix GetItemsForInventory under MySQL 8 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dfb33b7f87f905e044bb6c23bccead0551c1190f>
13:31 ashimema              https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_20.05
13:31 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 24030: Remove OldWay comparaison from GetItemsForInventory.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7aa84d28e5aad61126242afe31142d3f3c946337>
13:31 ashimema              ;)
13:31 * ashimema            chants.. sev_q for bugwrangler, sev_q for bugwangler
13:28 cait                  I am still tempted to jump up and down now and then when a patch form me goes in - don't lose that :)
13:27 cait                  sev_q: it's not
13:27 ashimema              sev_q++
13:27 liliputech_asu        :)
13:27 AnnaBoten             sev_q's karma is now 1
13:27 liliputech_asu        !sev_q++
13:27 liliputech_asu        cait: I think you meant !sev_q++ ^^
13:23 sev_q                 :)
13:23 sev_q                 but i'm still proud
13:23 sev_q                 thanks cait :) I'm too proud of this little typo, it's going ridiculous !
13:21 cait                  sev_q++
13:21 cait                  sev_q:
13:21 sev_q                 thanks andreashm !
13:21 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23983: Contextualization of 'Order' (verb) vs 'Order' (noun) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=923aab2774a51741aab6c056255d84fd1f556f03>
13:21 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 24022: Prevent Session2.t to fail if run after Session.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fab29f7fd47452fc2cab8aa57fe5b59eb5ef8da4>
13:21 corilynn              k
13:21 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 24022: Remove unecessary delete from authorised_values <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=37bc254581362689fa3a5e2bee2940eba3ea4cc2>
13:21 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 24022: Try to fix 'connect failed' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e6fe7ac38a4720ca645652c0633e0e6b1cc3a47>
13:21 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23983: Remove comment <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c2c5004066b3fbff2e89df43eb18319162765c6f>
13:21 sev_q                 corilynn: I've some bugs to test but will take a closer look soon :)
13:21 andreashm             sev_q++
13:20 sev_q                 thanks magnuse
13:18 corilynn              I'll add some detail in the bug of exactly how to get there and how to reproduce the issue
13:17 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21665 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Advanced editor - Double clicking on value brings subfield code as well
13:17 corilynn              looks like most of my super easy ones have been addressed, but bug 21665 is daily annoying to us
13:15 magnuse               sev_q++
13:12 sev_q                 corilynn: let's go ! i'm really curious :)
13:12 wahanui               o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
13:12 cait                  confetti!
13:12 sev_q                 thank you all !!
13:11 corilynn              sev_q, have I got a list for you!
13:11 sev_q                 yah !! my first patch is pushed !!!
13:11 ashimema              :D
13:11 ashimema              .
13:11 ashimema              .
13:11 ashimema              .
13:11 ashimema              1
13:11 ashimema              2
13:11 sev_q                 you're right, I'm looking for tiny things I could easily do now
13:11 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23932: Typo on 'aqinvoice_adjustments.encumber_open' description in Koha Schema <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a02aeec94f1c5f4d661450cce195fc43005ae6e4>
13:11 ashimema              3
13:11 ashimema              and just for fun..
13:10 cait                  addictive even
13:10 cait                  be warned... patch writing can be a little addicitve
13:10 cait                  It was a pleasure
13:10 sev_q                 thanks for signing my first patch !! :)
13:09 sev_q                 hello cait :)
13:08 cait                  hi sev_q!
13:07 sev_q                 hi #koha !
13:01 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23713 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Subscription add form broken for translations
13:01 cait                  Fridolin: still waiting for bug 23713...
13:01 cait                  enough things to do witout digging deeper into that right now :)
13:01 eythian               well you should do it more ;)
13:01 eythian               hello cait
13:00 cait                  part of my issue is I do that so rarely i guess
13:00 cait                  hi eythian :)
13:00 * eythian_            always does something like 'apt search netmask' when having those sorts of issues.
12:59 cait                  thx
12:59 cait                  i knw it was me
12:59 cait                  ah
12:59 kidclamp              libnet-netmask-perl
12:58 cait                  wondering where my mistake is
12:58 cait                  unable to locate package
12:56 ashimema              should be
12:55 cait                  hm it's not lib-net-netmask-perl?
12:53 kwatz                 Bye!
12:53 kwatz                 but thanks for the advice, i´ll pop in for more questions if I bump into terrible hurdles. My email is aasapo@utu.fi in case someone reads this later & is interested.
12:51 kwatz                 you´re propably right! I´ll have to get my hands on a Liinux system soonish and give Koha a try with a more compatible system
12:49 * ashimema            would be surprised if there are many more lightweight library systems out there
12:49 ashimema              ILM?
12:48 kwatz                 yeah.. ok then, thank you for the advice. I´ll have to perhaps consider a more lightweight ILM for starters.
12:48 kwatz                 there was a disclaimer on the advice i found :) heh
12:47 ashimema              there's lots of moving parts and dependancies.. and it's not really designed to be a desktop app
12:47 ashimema              mm, i imagine installing it on OSX would be very difficult
12:47 kwatz                 sorry about the typo, i mean i found some advice on running Koha that was written by someone from the NatLibFi
12:45 magnuse               and you need full root access to install everything you need, a "web hotel" solution is not enough
12:45 kwatz                 right
12:45 kwatz                 ashimema: ok! then...it´s just more work? I tried running Koha (just to see how complex it is)  on OS X with the National library of Finland and realized it takes a lot of effort
12:45 magnuse               you should be able to install on other linuxes too, but it will take more manual labour
12:44 magnuse               kwatz: installation is easiest on debian and ubuntu, where you can install with the debian packages.
12:44 cait                  jajm: i had soe issues witht he translate script /messages.po but resolved it by killing my ILL backends
12:43 cait                  thx
12:43 ashimema              You can
12:43 cait                  just ran into a new required dpeendency in the web installer: Net::Netmask - can i just install?
12:43 kwatz                 Or, to clarify, should i find a web service that will bend over backwards to meet my needs for a particular distribution to run very particular software such as solr, various specific perl modules etc, or is Koha also able to run on other distributions? I am somewhat familiar with unix, but not on a professional level.
12:42 ashimema              You can run it on pretty low specs really
12:41 ashimema              depends what you mean by dedicated and what sort of circulation stats and things you'll be pushing
12:40 ashimema              sounds cool kwatz
12:40 kwatz                 I have a perhaps silly question: Koha seems to be exclusively built for Debian. My silly question is: Do I absolutely need a dedicated server to run Koha?
12:38 kwatz                 We´re planning to use Koha from the very beginning to allow for scaling up from a local project to perhaps a national thing.
12:38 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23713 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Subscription add form broken for translations
12:38 Joubu                 ha! bug 23713
12:37 kwatz                 hello everyone! I am a scholar from Finland. We are starting a collective library project, where the basic idea is to share books from your bookshelf to people in your local area.
12:34 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24032 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Creating a new serial in french version
12:34 Joubu                 bug 24032
11:47 jajm                  cait, i'm here
11:45 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23932 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Typo on 'aqinvoice_adjustments.encumber_open' description in Koha Schema
11:45 cait                  Bug 23932
11:45 wahanui               hmmm... which one is that
11:45 Joubu                 which one?
11:45 ashimema              :)
11:44 cait                  I think it's her first :)
11:44 cait                  Joubu: can you pqa on severine's string patch?
11:44 cait                  ashimema can pick ;)
11:43 Joubu                 however it may be good to keep to 2 signed-off-by lines
11:43 Joubu                 it should be squashed anyway :)
11:42 cait                  we think too alike - I also did a follow-up removing the comment
11:42 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23983 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, caroline.cyr-la-rose, Passed QA , Contextualization of "Order" (verb) vs "Order" (noun)
11:42 cait                  bug 23983
11:41 cait                  Joubu: my patch or yours? :)
11:29 cait                  jajm: still around?
10:42 ashimema              :)
10:42 kidclamp              I can poke him when in
10:41 cait                  kidclamp: ?
10:39 ashimema              not seen him in a few days
10:39 cait                  khall: ping?
10:39 cait                  can you reach out to him?
10:39 cait                  i thought - but maybe he got covered by other work
10:39 ashimema              do you know if he intends to work on a fix?
10:37 cait                  something about removing items from inactive course reserves
10:36 cait                  we even uncovered another bug, that I tihnk has not been filed... khall had a screencast showing it
10:35 cait                  I tihnk khall wanted to have a look
10:35 cait                  it seems an older bug, but I hadupdated it to blocker, because it's a data loss bug
10:34 cait                  yes, I had a longer discussion with khall about this one
10:34 cait                  ah
10:34 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23727 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Editing course reserve items is broken
10:34 ashimema              bug 23727 - [Course reserves] Editing course reserve items is broken
10:33 wahanui               which one is that
10:33 cait                  which one?
10:33 ashimema              did I imagine you were talking to khall about that one cait ?
10:33 cait                  ah
10:33 ashimema              we still have a blocker in the queue.. bit worried it seems no-one is looking at it..
10:33 cait                  :)
10:33 liliputech_asu        morgen ^^
10:33 liliputech_asu        morning cait :)
10:33 cait                  good morning
10:33 ashimema              good morning cait
10:33 ashimema              cait :)
10:32 ashimema              they tend to be 1pm and 8pm (ish) eu time.. that way we catch the biggest audiences
10:32 cait                  the calendar shoudl show the right time i think if you click on the dates
10:32 ashimema              it's the late shift one so we catch the nz croud
10:32 ashimema              yup, afraid so
10:31 liliputech_asu        irc meeting tonight @8pm utc is that right?
10:30 liliputech_asu        :)
10:28 ashimema              I knew what you meant ;)
10:28 liliputech_asu        ashimema: my bad, rest-api, it's not owen, it's ... tcohen!
10:25 * ashimema            goes to grab tea
10:25 ashimema              so that would be great
10:25 ashimema              it's often a bottleneck for us
10:25 ashimema              testing is important :)
10:23 liliputech_asu        I'm more "user" than "dev" on that matter but I can easily test thoses
10:23 liliputech_asu        ashimema: sophie_m also suggest that I complement owen on REST API
10:22 ashimema              thanks lilipute1h_asu  :)
10:21 lilipute1h_asu        ashimema: jajm: applied for ils-di, a bit junior to take on 18.11 RMaint
10:21 jajm                  i see that rmaints are missing... :/
10:20 jajm                  ashimema, i know i won't (lack of time), i'm not sure for others
10:18 ashimema              either way I'll test them today with the aim of pushing them asap
10:18 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23996 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , MySQL 8 support
10:17 ashimema              regarding those bugs.. perhaps attach them to bug 23996 instead?
10:17 ashimema              I like the idea of putting it in POD :)
10:17 ashimema              agreed
10:17 Joubu                 if in the POD we can ask for POD when a hook is pushed, and make it mandatory. It will follow the versions, etc. Which is better than having it into the plugin IMO.
10:16 ashimema              I think that should be moved into POD.. but I do also like having that example plugin.. it should probably be moved into the community gitlab though.. it's not especially discoverable in the bywater repos'
10:15 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24002 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Test suite is failing on MySQL 8
10:15 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24030 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , GetItemsForInventory failing with "ORDER BY clause is not in SELECT list"
10:15 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24029 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , marcrecord2csv.t displays a SQL error "Truncated incorrect DOUBLE value: '01e'"
10:15 Joubu                 ashimema: bug 24029 and bug 24030 - I put them in the "depdends on" list of bug 24002, which is already pushed. Not sure if it makes sense
10:15 ashimema              I agree.. POD is good.. you're totally right that the majority of existing documentation is in the kitchen-sink
10:15 ashimema              POD++
10:14 ashimema              jajm Do you know if anyone from biblibre was hoping to stand for any community roles this coming cycle?
09:58 magnuse               something for the documentation manager and interested parties to discuss, perhaps?
09:53 jajm                  okay, i will add some POD to Koha::Plugins then, thanks
09:49 magnuse               the wiki could always link to perldoc.k-c
09:49 magnuse               the wiki makes sense to me, but having it in the code sounds good too
09:47 Joubu                 I'd say Koha::Plugins POD then export somewhere if needed, but we should have it in the code.
09:46 jajm                  it seems that the only documentation we have is the kitchen sink plugin
09:45 magnuse               very good question, jajm
09:44 jajm                  or POD in Koha::Plugins ? a new file in docs/ ? :/
09:43 jajm                  should i use https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Plugin_Hooks ?
09:43 jajm                  hi all, i'm adding a new plugin hook, and i'm wondering what is the best place to put the hook documentation (like parameters and return value)
09:20 * andreashm           brings out the instruments
09:15 * Joubu               claps
09:14 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1000: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1000/
09:10 andreashm             I (we) will be happy to work with her on it.
09:06 ashimema              But I look forward to it being a more thorough role :)
09:05 ashimema              website maintainer is a new role.. it's mostly just been wizzyrea doing it as and when she can in the past.. so bear with the teething problems that may happen ;)
08:54 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #12: FAILURE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/12/
08:48 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_Master_U18 build #470: FIXED in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/470/
08:48 wahanui               Congratulations!
08:48 koha-jenkins          Yippee, build fixed!
08:40 andreashm             ok, good. Makes it easier to work with.
08:40 magnuse               andreashm: it's wordpress
08:39 magnuse               andreashm++
08:38 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_Master_D8 build #532: STILL UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/532/
08:37 kohaputti             alexbuckley, there is a bug report open for adding arbitrary amount of variable fields for subscription numbering pattern
08:32 andreashm             anyone know if koha-community.org is a wordpress site, or something else (custom built?)
08:32 tuxayo                andreashm++
08:31 * tuxayo              ~~~ to andreashm
08:31 andreashm             ashimema: I'll add myself to website maintainer
08:31 * andreashm           waves
08:21 tuxayo                Indeed :(
08:10 ashimema              and we're low of bug wranglers too
08:10 ashimema              also, no wiki curators or website maintainers as yet
08:06 ashimema              hmm.. still no-one willing to step up for either 19.11 or 18.11 rmaint roles :(
08:05 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23846: Display degraded view when MARCXML is invalid (staff detail) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=068943f18d60edc231b59b6232fecabaf1c799ab>
08:05 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23846: Add a check to the data inconsistencies script <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e1c5d17a268c6d493c2c71d4b456da7749655c3>
08:05 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23846: Handle exception gracefully at the OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cce358f9af5ee9761a875816f603344873838359>
07:54 wahanui               niihau, alex_a
07:54 alex_a                Bonjour
01:05 oleonard              Okay I think I figured it out. I thought I wasn't understanding the code but I wasn't understanding the funky data we have
00:55 oleonard              I'm confused by the code in Patron.pm... I think fixup_cardnumber (line 109) is where I should be looking
00:54 oleonard              Hey is anyone around who might be able to explain to me how Koha selects the next card number if autoMemberNum is enabled?