Time Nick Message 23:54 mtj similar problem ^ 23:54 mtj https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/issues/140 23:49 mtj hmm, seems to be an ongoing problem 23:49 mtj https://github.com/docker/for-win/issues/1340 23:47 mtj .. then try a fresh git clone 23:46 mtj *.sh eol=lf 23:46 mtj Dockerfile eol=lf 23:46 mtj # Ensure shell script uses LF. 23:45 mtj hmm, perhaps the .gitattributes fix might work 23:45 mtj https://github.com/dhoer/docker-on-windows-gotchas 23:43 mtj some 23:43 mtj https://medium.com/@delitescere/docker-file-permissions-and-line-endings-9aced07d70f8 23:43 mtj so info.. 23:41 mtj aah, that might need to be 'true' 23:38 mtj $ git clone https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker.git --config core.autocrlf=false 23:38 mtj mkstephens: try doing your git clone like this.. 23:27 bag huh - looking 23:26 mkstephens I know I need to get rid of the ^M, but not sure how to edit the run.sh file 23:25 mkstephens "/kohadevbox/run.sh: /usr/sbin/koha-create: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory" 23:25 mkstephens yes. the koha_1 container won't start 23:24 bag are you getting errors? 23:24 bag hmm never done it on windows 23:09 mkstephens Is there anyone around who might be able to help me get Koha Testing Docker up and running on Windows? 21:07 wizzyrea i'm glad you got it sorted 21:07 wizzyrea heheh it always is! 21:01 hayley it's always something silly like that! 21:00 hayley ahh it was a silly mistake, I had forgotten to copy my script to where the cronjob was looking -facepalm- thanks for your help wizzyrea! :) 20:57 wizzyrea if it's invalid, the koha-common cron won't run so it'd be good to check that first 20:57 wizzyrea in the crontab 20:57 wizzyrea hi hayley, what does the line look like in you rscript 20:56 wizzyrea ashimema, about 20:37 hayley hi koha people, I have need for help and sorry if this is obvious but I am quite new. I'm testing a cronjob I've written at the moment but am having trouble testing it in the devbox. I have put an entry in /etc/cron.d/koha-common that should call my script, and done restart_all. Is there a step I am missing? 15:26 reiveune bye 15:13 ashimema it's one I'd love to have seen cross the finish line for 19.11 ;) 15:13 ashimema okies 15:11 jajm ashimema, not at the moment, and probably not next week neither 15:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22922 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Allow to modify hold and hold expiration date in staff 15:09 ashimema jajm: are you still working on bug 22922 ? 15:04 oleonard It's a bummer koha-testing-docker isn't working for me, but I'm happy to report that enabling filename case sensitivity in Windows works well when I'm using kohadevbox 14:57 * oleonard brb 14:51 oleonard cait++ 14:49 cait oleonard++ ashimema++ 14:49 oleonard Hi CrispyBran 14:44 oleonard Especially since it lengthens the time until we run out of people who are willing to do the job 14:44 oleonard I think having that 2-year reign is a good pattern to keep up 14:44 oleonard ashimema++ # for continuing as RM 14:16 ashimema https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_20.05 page now exists 14:11 Joubu And also ask where is the link to the community website 14:10 thd We could specify a code to appear in the subject heading on mailing list for catching requests in an automated manner. 14:08 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_16_october_2019.2019-10-16-13.23.log.html 14:08 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_16_october_2019.2019-10-16-13.23.txt 14:08 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_16_october_2019.2019-10-16-13.23.html 14:08 huginn Meeting ended Wed Oct 16 14:08:47 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 14:08 ashimema #endmeeting 14:08 ashimema I think we're pretty much done meeting wise.. we can continue this conversation after of course 14:08 cait ok 14:07 ashimema well.. I was more thinking of a go to person for general website maintanence 14:06 cait but the person responsible needs towatch the mailing list for requests .) 14:06 ashimema #info We need to sort out a process for maintaining the 'paid support list' on the website 14:06 Joubu not sure the name of the person in charge of that list should be public :D 14:05 ashimema indeed.. need liz to reply 14:05 cait there is people who can edit the website - if we knew how to 14:05 cait i think we may need instructions 14:04 ashimema I'll add a role to the next cycle so we have a formal 'go to' person for managing such things.. at the moment you just have to happen to know that Liz does most of it. 14:03 cait it was 3-4 requets in the last 6-8 weeks or so 14:03 ashimema indeed.. it's not at all obvious 14:03 cait kidclamp: is LIz around? 14:03 cait i am happy to help - but the plugin for the listing is a mystery to me 14:02 Joubu Also, I had a list of entries to remove 14:02 ashimema realistically the website maintanence should really be under a particular role.. it all needs keeping up with. 14:02 cait i've seen oens that had the link 14:02 cait I thnk we have a general problem there - witht he add to listing 14:02 cait [off] https://www.hypernova.fi/koha/ also wanted to be added - didn't seem to be 14:02 Joubu [off] They cannot read a one line requirement "add a link to k-c.org", so not sure how they could offer good support anyway 14:01 cait i think liz was the one to add usually, - i am not sure someone else knows to how to do it 14:01 ashimema perhaps we should more formally assign that job as part of someone's role ;) 14:01 ashimema and is it listed as anyone's role to reply? 14:01 cait #link https://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/how-to-get-listed/ 14:00 cait e 14:00 cait the mailing list ist the defined formal rout 14:00 ashimema just on the mailing list or is there any more formal route? 14:00 cait i am not sure if they have been added 14:00 caroline_catlady good morning! 14:00 cait there have been quite a lot lately 14:00 ashimema where do the requests go? 14:00 Joubu remove the list, update it, freeze it, whatever you want. But these guys should get an answer 13:59 Joubu we/you should answer, at least give an answer 13:59 ashimema #topic More general discussion 13:59 Joubu "request to be added to paid support" 13:59 ashimema I've not called it yet ;) 13:59 ashimema fire away Joubu.. 13:59 ashimema ooh.. 13:59 Joubu but please end it :) 13:59 ashimema just after commuting 13:58 Joubu ho, I had a topic actually :D 13:58 ashimema we'll stick to that for now and I'll ask rangi later to confirm it's OK 13:58 thd ? 13:58 thd Is 9am in the middle of commuting or just after> 13:58 ashimema #info Next meeting: 13 November 2019, 20:00 UTC 13:58 ashimema I believe so.. we're had them around at that time before 13:57 ashimema 9am 13:57 thd Does 1 hour earlier work in Wellington? 13:57 ashimema lets stick to 20:00.. it's a pretty reasonably slot for all 13:56 * ashimema prefers one hour earlier personally.. else it's a rather late one in london ;) 13:56 kidclamp kyle usually gone by 3, but that works 13:56 thd One hour UTC later gives the same local time as recently. 13:56 ashimema trying to avoid you're all staff ;) 13:55 ashimema so 3pm would be better for you guys.. 13:55 kidclamp but I can't speak for individual calendars 13:54 ashimema I cheated ;) 13:54 kidclamp no all staff meetings at 4pm 13:54 fridos 20 or 21 for me is good 13:54 thd I may have it backwards 13:54 ashimema https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?day=13&month=11&year=2019&p1=136&p2=179&p3=264&iv=0 13:54 ashimema 20:00 better for people in general? 13:54 thd Or do I have it backwards? 13:54 ashimema kidclamp.. how does that fit with Bywater afternoon meetings? 13:53 thd Perhaps we should change for 1 hour UTC earlier to have a consistent local time. 13:53 ashimema 13 November, 21:00 UTC.. that's 9pm London, 4pm New York, 10am Wellington 13:53 cait i meant europe and nz will be 10 instead of 12 hours apart 13:52 thd Daylight savings change in the autumn should make the same late UTC time worse for attending. 13:51 cait for europe, but sitll outside of normal work hours 13:50 cait i think 13:50 cait daylight savings 13:50 cait it#s not too bad now with dls 13:50 ashimema as we're taking the vote for the next team.. do we want to stick with the late slot? 13:49 ashimema strictly we should make it a late one to include the NZ croud to follow the pattern 13:48 thd +1 13:48 ashimema November 13th suit people? 13:47 ashimema #topic Set time of next meeting 13:46 kidclamp ++ 13:46 fridos ++ 13:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23414 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Improve performance of C4/XSLT/buildKohaItemsNamespace 13:45 ashimema #info We agreed to move forward with bug 23414 and add a new bug to discus a general decision on where to pull data from in the future. 13:45 ashimema let this bug get moving as it's already and improvement. 13:44 ashimema lets open another bug for the next stages and detail the discussion there. 13:44 ashimema he's in another meeting 13:43 ashimema I'm thinking we create a bug to detail a general move towards fetching from the search index only... feels like as we're hitting that to start with and assuming the data is all returned there why do additional calls outside 13:43 kidclamp tcohen about? he is working on this area in a larger sense 13:42 * ashimema hasn't read this code yet 13:42 fridos yep the bug itself is great 13:42 kidclamp the searchResults subroutine has a lot of weirdness, trying to clean it up slowly 13:42 ashimema does zebra not hold a suitaly up to date copy of this data at the moment then? 13:42 kidclamp I think as tcohen pointed out, some of this can be done later, but I think this offers an imporvement now 13:41 fridos there are known issues when too much items 13:41 fridos indeed but i think only when ES will be the major searchengine 13:41 cait that we do too much processing/db stuff on top 13:40 cait i think i've been also told it's why our searches with zebra are slow 13:40 kidclamp I think in the future using the data from the search engine would be ideal - we update it on every item change, why do we not trust it? 13:40 cait i've just been told by somene it was a goal to save he data for display in elastic 13:40 fridos (with a good DB cache) 13:40 fridos i bet the performance is to be proved 13:40 cait that's why youc an recognize an old index by different status of items between detail and results 13:40 cait it's true 13:40 ashimema interesting 13:40 fridos those info come from indexed record 13:40 cait and I have been told there is a performance benefit of using zebra for item data i think 13:39 fridos staff search shows items left hand 13:39 cait are we talking result list or detail page? 13:39 fridos and how does it work with ES ... 13:39 cait can you explain a bit more? 13:39 fridos in my opinion its crazy to use the datas from zebra 13:38 fridos it seems we need to make a decision, whether to use the data from Zebra, or use the one on the DB 13:38 huginn Bug 23414: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Improve performance of C4/XSLT/buildKohaItemsNamespace 13:38 fridos see last comment https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23414#c4 13:38 fridos yep oki 13:38 ashimema general discussion.. there was a bug you wanted to talk about fridos , now's a good time ;) 13:37 * fridos as to look at security bugs that whould come in next 19.05.x 13:37 fridos ashimema++ 13:37 ashimema frido++ 13:37 cait ashimema++ 13:37 ashimema #info Intention is to hold the election at the next general meeting. 13:36 ashimema #info The 20.05 roles page will be available for people to add their names before the end of the day. 13:36 ashimema probably with elections next meeting.. that'll fall in line with the usual scheme 13:36 fridos i think i may apply for an old(old)stable to be there for ES 13:35 ashimema Lets start drumming up interest for the next team 13:35 fridos cool 13:35 ashimema I intend to add the roles for 20.05 page later today 13:35 fridos its not linked to my RMaint work 13:35 cait fridos: your bug? 13:34 ashimema #topic General discussion 13:34 ashimema I was going to ask that today actually 13:34 ashimema #info Other maintained branches continue to tick along. 13:33 fridos ashimema: do you know when we start peparing roles for next cycle ? 13:33 ashimema #info 19.05.x is trailing master a little, but generally in good condition. 13:31 ashimema #info 19.11 is coming along nicely, it's been a slow cycle but we're not in bad shape. SO and QA are picking up now we're nearing the end of the cycle. 13:31 fridos yep 19.05.x is a bit late on master 13:31 wahanui rmaints is fridolin, lucas and wizzyrea 13:31 ashimema rmaints? 13:31 ashimema #topic Update on releases 13:30 thd I am currently checking $wgDBmysql5 to avoid database corruption. 13:30 ashimema #info Koha Wiki database migration from Postgres to MySQL has been tested to work without errors or warnings for the past week. Three columb sizes had to increase. 13:30 ashimema for D10.. I don't believe so yet 13:30 thd Koha Wiki database migration from Postgres to MySQL has been tested to work without errors or warnings for the past week. Three columb sizes had to increase. 13:29 ashimema any other announcements from anyone? 13:29 fridos ashimema: is there a Bug nb already ? 13:29 ashimema #info Testing of Debian 10 has been added to Jenkins, some packaing issue need resolving before we can call it a supported release. 13:29 fridos last comment 13:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23414 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Improve performance of C4/XSLT/buildKohaItemsNamespace 13:29 * fridos whould like to discuss on Bug 23414 13:28 fridos #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France 13:28 ashimema #link https://koha-community.org/calendar/ Calendar 13:28 ashimema #info Release dates are out, check the community calendar 13:28 ashimema #topic Announcements 13:27 cait fridos: meetng time :) 13:26 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWaterSolutions 13:24 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 13:24 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions 13:24 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, here for 5 minutes 13:24 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 13:24 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 13:23 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe 13:23 ashimema #topic Introductions 13:23 ashimema #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_16_October_2019 Agenda 13:23 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_16_october_2019' 13:23 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:23 huginn Meeting started Wed Oct 16 13:23:09 2019 UTC. The chair is ashimema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:23 ashimema #startmeeting General IRC meeting 16 October 2019 13:22 cait i am here now 13:21 cait ist it not meeting time? 13:21 tcohen hola 13:19 Joubu but it's a general meeting, I do not have much to say 13:18 Joubu I am 13:17 ashimema anyone around? 13:17 thd There were some others around in the past hour. 13:17 ashimema do we actually have anyone present other than you and I thd? 13:17 ashimema yes, yes there is meant to be 13:17 ashimema oops.. 13:15 thd Is there a meeting now? 13:15 ashimema tests pass as a whole too.. woop, woop 12:57 ashimema it is now 12:57 ashimema OK, I forgot to put that one back to NSO :) 12:23 * ashimema is just running the entire test suit against that patch set to check I've not inadvertantly broken anything 12:16 Joubu they look ok 12:13 ashimema I have a feeling you're not going to like the last two patches... especially the last one 12:13 ashimema I'm just pushing my last patches there as I type.. 12:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23382 critical, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, ASSIGNED , Issuing rules failing after bug 20912 12:13 ashimema bug 23382 if your interested where that came from Joubu.. 12:06 ashimema anywho.. I think i've resolved my issue now 12:06 ashimema so if we happen to pass one date truncated we end up with a different result at the end 12:06 ashimema we're calling delta_ms in Koha::Calendar->hours_between 12:05 ashimema for hourly calculations the seconds make a big different.. 12:05 ashimema and.. we have a mix of modules, some of which expect accurate dates, others don't care 12:04 ashimema well.. in most cases it's changing the actual object rather than cloning it.. 12:04 ashimema removing them does make loads of tests fail however.. 12:04 Joubu but I could certainly be improved. Why are you saying it makes datetime math fragile? 12:04 ashimema I mean.. we literally call `->truncate( to => 'minute' )` on datetime objects all over the place and I can't work out why 12:03 Joubu ashimema: My guess is that due dates are truncated to minute because their HH:MM are most of the time eq to 23:59[:00?] in DB. 11:56 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23733 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Passwort import explodes when password is too 'weak' and doesn't allow empty passwords anymore 11:56 cait someon using patron import and wants to comment on bug 23733? 11:41 ashimema it makes datetime math incredibly fragile :( 11:38 cait becaus smalles unit is minutes for the loan periods? (guessing) 11:32 wahanui hi oleopard 11:32 calire hi oleonard 11:32 ashimema anyone here know wher why we're truncating to minutes all over the place in C4::Circulation? 11:32 oleonard Hi #koha 10:38 ashimema I hadn't spotted that yet 10:38 ashimema yes, we probably should in answer to your question 10:38 ashimema lol 10:37 Joubu thanks huginn 10:37 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23516 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Incorrect permissions on modrequest.pl could lead to unauthorized hold changes 10:37 Joubu [off] should not we move bug 23516 (and similars) to the "Koha security" product of the bug tracker? 09:00 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 09:00 ashimema @later tell kidclamp bug 23051 is back to waiting on a reply from you :) 08:59 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 08:59 ashimema @later tell tcohen did you get a chance to go any further on QA of bug 22818 08:59 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 08:59 ashimema @later tell magnuse was bug 23173 one you were looking at, be lovely to get it moving again. 08:19 ashimema does new york loose 2h30 when they do DST.. wow? 08:16 ashimema I've not gotten to that one yet in the scheme of things 08:16 ashimema no rush liliputech_asu 08:15 liliputech_asu ashimema : I'll take a coffee break and get a closer look @14293 08:15 ashimema 149 seems a really odd number 08:15 ashimema anyone understand why for the DST boundary tests we subtract 149 minutes as our test? 08:14 ashimema hmm.. I think I need an american to explain one of these tests to me.. 08:13 ashimema good luck 08:11 liliputech_asu free-do :D 08:10 * fridos not on freedos but whould like ;) 08:09 liliputech_asu hi fridos :) 08:09 liliputech_asu ashimema: right now I was on that one : bz23800 08:09 ashimema :( 08:08 liliputech_asu ashimema: he... last time I tested the patch it was returning the item without even applying restriction to the user... 08:08 fridos yolo 08:07 ashimema though days between always rounds 'down'.. i.e. it acts like it's been 'floored' 08:07 ashimema (the days_between method does just that) 08:06 ashimema liliputech_asu, my feeling is that hours_between should only return a DateTime::Duration object consisting of 'hours'.. not one that has the full extra bits in minutes etc. 07:46 ashimema I think 'chargable units' shouldn't change in how it's calculated.. it's how you then apply those units which is in question.. for suspensions it's clear that the 'charges' need to be handled differently. 07:45 ashimema personally.. it feels like the suspension fixes are in entirely the wrong place to me 07:44 ashimema may request your insights later ;) 07:44 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14293 major, P4, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , Error in the calculation of the suspension of users per day 07:44 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23382 critical, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, ASSIGNED , Issuing rules failing after bug 20912 07:44 ashimema just working through bug 23382 and bug 14293 liliputech_asu 07:44 liliputech_asu hi #koha 07:43 liliputech_asu hi 07:41 cait hi #koha 07:41 cait hi m23 07:38 m23 hi Koha 07:09 * ashimema thinks he may need an origin story for that nick one day 07:09 ashimema morning :) 07:09 alex_a Morning ashimema :) 07:09 ashimema brill, thanks 07:09 alex_a ashimema, yes! liliputech_asu is Arthur 07:08 ashimema mornin' #koha 07:08 ashimema hey alex_a ... is arthur on irc? 06:56 alex_a Bonjour 06:39 magnuse bonjour from Lund, Sweden 06:37 reiveune hello