Time  Nick             Message
06:35 reiveune         hello
06:35 wahanui          que tal, reiveune
08:36 m23              Hello Koha
08:39 m23              Anybody here, that use Elasitc with non-english language?
08:43 cait             I know bulac does, but they are not on irc
09:15 cait             fridolin: it doesn't look like the translation updates have run yet
09:16 cait             i think bernardo runs themn around 17th, but I might be mistaken
09:17 * ashimema       tihnks he recently setup a reminder to poke Fridoline to do a translation freez anounce
09:17 cait             ah yep, but maybe better to time with the automated updates?
09:17 cait             people checking now see no chagnes
09:18 ashimema         indeed
09:18 cait             https://translate.koha-community.org/de/
09:18 ashimema         though I was never sure how that worked
09:18 cait             ashimema: you need to push the bad bugs in your queue
09:18 ashimema         Still working on fixes
09:19 ashimema         but yes.. they're on my list to push today
09:19 ashimema         in fact.. they are all pushed locally.. so litteraly just need pushing up
09:19 cait             ok
09:23 fridolin         cait: I dont know how it works in fact
09:26 cait             fridolin: the po files are updated by the translation manager prior to a release
09:27 cait             fridolin: translators then jump in and do the translations, but they don't handle the po files at all
09:27 cait             so it's an automated process - we are just not sure about the exact date where bernardo does the update
09:28 fridolin         cait: oh ok thanks
09:28 fridolin         so in email i migth say translations "are going to be updated"
09:28 ashimema         sorry fridolin.. I wasn't aware of such a process
09:28 cait             yeah, that would be cool
09:29 cait             I had a feeling you weren't :)
09:29 fridolin         and by the time poeple can work on late translations
09:29 cait             also knowing exactly when it happens would be good
09:29 fridolin         we always have some in frensh
09:29 cait             if it's scheduled or manual
09:29 fridolin         or on manual ;)
09:29 cait             manual is bad for us... but we keep German up to date
09:29 * ashimema       tried really hard to get fully up to speed on the translations process during his time as rmaint but never managed to get the full picture right in his head
09:30 fridolin         translation is hell ;)
09:30 cait             nah
09:31 ashimema         mwhahaha..
09:31 cait             only purgatory ;)
09:31 ashimema         I've finally narrowed down my test failures a little bit more
09:32 cait             checking here: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_maintenance
09:32 cait             Get in touch with the translation manager on time to have them update the po files on translate.koha-community.org  Announce String Freeze on the koha-translate mailing list
09:32 cait             heh
09:32 cait             fridolin: maybe email bernardo about the process?
09:32 fridolin         oki sure
10:13 ashimema         Grr, I'm stuck in these tests still but I'm not going to let them hold back pushing any longer.. incoming fridolin
10:14 ashimema         There should still be one and only one failure (I hope) and that's in an enhancement so you shouldn't have to worry
10:16 ashimema         @seen Joubu
10:16 huginn`          ashimema: Joubu was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, 32 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <Joubu> @later tell mtompsett do you plan to clean the code related to the hidden items? in opac-detail, MARC and ISBD, the code is different to handle the same thing
10:16 * ashimema       misses Joubu
10:23 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22709: (RM follow-up) Clean up plugin tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d25f3e84374ec8d7c85f8ed805102f67c0a73d77>
10:31 fridolin         ashimema: oki doki
10:40 saa              our fines are not displayed against each item title
10:40 saa              as well as in overdue notices
10:40 saa              can someone help to solve
10:45 saa              overdue amounts fine amounts are not shown in koha
10:46 cait             saa it might be a bug, i saw your report
10:46 cait             are the items still checked out?
10:46 cait             did you answer the questions i posted on the bug?
10:47 saa              yes items are checked out
10:47 saa              would it be possible to solve it
10:47 saa              we have an audit query and we need to answer the same
10:48 saa              i should be able to send out list of items to users with their fine amount can this be done
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11:05 cait             saa: that shoudl work even if ti doesn't show there
11:05 cait             did you check the borrowers with fines report?
11:05 cait             it's linked from the circulation start page
11:10 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #323: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/323/
11:23 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22563: DBRev 19.06.00.012 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=92bf8082c372d4cf055336da7539bf214847249f>
11:23 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 23259: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a43cf374aefe2052c3c241be4455a903429bd8c2>
11:23 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22563: (follow-up) Fix tests in Koha/Account.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b4da7594f7422a244c0dc0b6ef6dff85f083a40>
11:23 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22563: Typo in query (manualinvoice) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f356cecc35fa3b1b2a730703fa2d7fbeaddf0d7>
11:23 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 23259: Remove reset-fonts-grids.css <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=59bbcb1d37361cd8e675fa48492cec3b4659edcf>
11:23 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 23221: (follow-up) Add comments on markup structure <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4068484650cb76d0fa3d801a4a5f49bd65cffb0b>
11:23 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 23094: Use Bootstrap-style pagination on staged MARC records page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f41533c49d487406621ee651d992e44b89e7e14a>
11:23 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 23221: Reindent tools/manage-marc-import.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd66074205b571d1db6acbb57d8d8554d3d4fe85>
11:23 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 23197: Add more batch operation options to SQL report results <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=414ab9b166a0f4d18138f6129ccb73a7806976cf>
11:23 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22563: (QA follow-up) Correction to DB update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dd63cb6b8ee5b3324c8902b7f189b22a03b0a335>
11:23 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22563: (QA follow-up) Catch LOST maninvoice cases <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c437f84a65237a1b4eabbb2b5c1b8f661649a1d0>
11:24 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22563: (QA follow-up) Use issue_id in chargelostitem <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=40c0ebb21955a237686504aef1aad43563bbf107>
11:24 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 19919: Unit Tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b59dc761d77d8d1af8f1e2afb58b51f5252ed506>
11:24 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 19919: Stop using paidfor altogether <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f54a1f8c654e911c9e6254762586e3eeb786528>
11:24 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22563: (follow-up) Corrections for overdue tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4f608faa6fa94f02de284118830e90042406474>
11:24 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22563: (follow-up) Clean up remaing L, LR and CR cases in the database <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2c76ac420bf8270f98f076bda2aa823b2b00847>
11:24 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22563: (follow-up) Items LOST should not be RETURNED <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=de29f6b4a202b454b090e20b499b01b39b2fc2f7>
11:24 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22721: Remove frameworkcode parameter in GetMarcFromKohaField calls <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=68eeefa07edfd7f45546b9ad5eb72627502fc5e0>
11:24 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22563: (follow-up) Corrections for tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1e0cb67d06a49760808797ce30434c0fa2d0432>
11:24 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 20364: Show languages from MARC21 field 041 in intranet <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc53c88ad4bda3810a1f4c0a7582fec8b3a10383>
11:33 saa              let me chk
11:35 saa              i will answer the questions posted on bug
11:44 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22709: (RM follow-up) AddBiblio returns a list not a scalar <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=08a86c233576323f3d347a43690124c6fc8a0073>
11:44 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 23308: Change html to filter to $raw <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f829221f818c1f7b7779f4bd74f633206deda2e1>
11:44 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 11642: change / to and in related tools menu <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7fec3af88d0ba6c2ae3246df47ee5ce29ebf78c>
11:44 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 11642: (follow-up) Improve Batch patron deletion and anonymization GUI to make... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e29b5775f4c378e93f5a4b06f90b50f14a6c1e1>
11:44 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 11642: Add confirmation and tooltips to batch deletion tool <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f897ff77c8774b1ad942665fc18b7a012312240f>
11:44 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 21027: Fix checkout statistics if 1+ of the fields is not defined <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=17a71b990076efd04c15de6b3165c33fffe037a3>
11:46 oleonard         Hi all
11:50 calire           hi oleonard
11:50 wahanui          hi oleopard
11:52 ashimema         kidclamp++
11:52 ashimema         khall++
11:53 cait             ashimema++
11:53 ashimema         spotting the stupid mistake I missed that was causing the tests to fail.. been hunting that bugger for days!
11:53 ashimema         I'm all caught up now.. over to you frido and rmaints
11:54 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 23219: (QA follow-up) Change wording of test slightly <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=44a19e2d465ed26f190ba1e73f4e6e8d56548fd2>
11:54 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 23299: Switch address1 and streetnumber for German address format on opac-memberentry <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2c34bde8bf7bd3ed7ab7167d6f0944759fb56df>
11:54 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 23219: (QA Follow up) Cancel patrons holds when patron delete <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=04745be7e2887ae2e1205d311841f20bd55edcf4>
11:54 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 23219: Cancel patrons holds when patron delete <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=07af7b228f5513405e14281a9b082374c1c13519>
11:54 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22768: Global search form keyboard navigation broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb3a0e5dbc16b4249b3eacae98a26d3479a76f5a>
11:54 cait             teamwork++ kidclamp++ khall++
11:54 khall            :)
11:55 khall            many eyes make all bugs shallow
11:55 cait             now that you are done with that.... ;)
11:55 cait             i might have some suggestions for other bugs to stare down :)
11:57 cait             some help with https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23289 would be nice
11:57 huginn`          Bug 23289: blocker, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Label Template - Creation not working
11:58 cait             i can't replicate
11:58 oleonard         Anyone present have the authority to ban Bugzilla users? Spam comment 10 on Bug 17098
11:58 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17098 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Validation problems with form field type "number" (decimal separator)
11:58 ashimema         I probably do now actually
12:00 cait             oleonard: interesting
12:00 cait             there have been other comments from him, i didn't recognize as spam right away
12:00 cait             marking it private will hide it from users not logged in /security i think
12:00 cait             so also search engines
12:01 ashimema         the user was added 2019.06.24 15:16:14
12:01 cait             are we sure it's spam? https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2635
12:01 huginn`          Bug 2635: normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Allow validation of item fields (price, dates)
12:01 cait             hm i guess, but well done
12:01 calire           well I ain't gonna click his links
12:02 ashimema         hmm
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12:02 ashimema         I have no idea how to block him..
12:02 cait             i think you can't do realyl
12:02 ashimema         I can delete the account but that doesn't feel like it woudl prevent him from just adding a new one
12:02 ashimema         will ask rangi if he has any further measures he does at his end
12:03 cait             i made 2 more comments private
12:03 ashimema         @later tell rangi, is there a procedure for blocking spam users on bugzilla.. I can see I can remove their account entirely but that doesn't really stop them from just creating a new one with the same email does it?
12:03 huginn`          ashimema: The operation succeeded.
12:04 cait             btw, anyone want to sign-off on bug 23315?
12:04 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23315 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Some system preferences are no longer editable
12:04 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 18930: (RM follow-up) Drop refund_lost_item_fee_rules <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=849275341067b25bcb193c64b1ae14814bc3104d>
12:04 oleonard         cait: I plan to as soon as my computer stops installing updates and threatening reboots. Anyone is welcome to beat me to it though
12:05 cait             oleonard:  :)
12:07 cait             also... please sign up: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Community_Project_Day_26_July_2019 :)
12:16 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #324: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/324/
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12:24 oleonard         ashimema++ # lots of new stuff!
12:24 oleonard         QA++
12:40 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D9 build #818: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/818/
12:58 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 23192: (RM follow-up) Add missing filters to waiting_holds.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4d02fbe292ab36bb966300eb0c078c3467496e5>
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13:17 caroline_catlady good morning!
13:17 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_U18 build #307: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/307/
13:21 oleonard         I signed off on Bug 23315 but then added a follow-up, so it's still on the table
13:21 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23315 major, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Some system preferences are no longer editable
13:23 cait             morning caroline_catlady :)
13:23 cait             something easy to get started with? bug 23315? :)
13:24 cait             kidclamp: qa for bug 21316 maybe? you reported it : )
13:24 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21316 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Adding controlfields to the ACQ framework causes issues when adding to basket
13:24 cait             i signed off, so i am out
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13:53 cait             jajm++ # wiki updates
13:53 * oleonard       biab
13:53 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_U18 build #308: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/308/
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14:04 * oleonard       grumbles at Windows
14:09 ashimema         cait don't suppose you fancied a fast qa on bug 23316 - I just noticed it whilst working through other code..
14:09 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23316 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , GetFine needs updating for bug 22521
14:10 cait             is this related to the display issue reported bei saa?
14:10 * corilynn       shakes fist angrily at Disney
14:10 cait             there is no test plan
14:10 cait             corilynn: oh?
14:11 corilynn         ugh, my whole morning in random combinations of cataloging stupid Disney titles where I can't copy/paste the text
14:11 cait             bug 23306
14:11 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23306 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , fines amount showing zero
14:11 ashimema         ooh..
14:11 ashimema         it could be cait
14:11 ashimema         that may be what led me to find it
14:12 ashimema         I actually have no idea what the effect may be.. but saa's problem probably is it..
14:12 ashimema         though I thought I saw saa's issue in 18.11.. which this wouldn't be in
14:13 ashimema         basically the GetFines call will always return empty without this change.. can't believe I missed that case..
14:13 * ashimema       runs off for a school run
14:17 ashimema         also.. bug 11573 is freshly rebased and ready for QA for anyone who fancies grabbing it..
14:17 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11573 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Fine descriptions related to Rentals are untranslatable
14:17 * ashimema       hopes to spark the interest of a translation keen QAer
14:19 cait             ashimema: maybe some lines crept in - worth checking
14:19 cait             and i think it was 19.05
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14:30 caroline_catlady added my project to https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Community_Project_Day_26_July_2019 :)
14:33 cait             caroline_catlady: thank you!
14:33 cait             caroline_catlady: could you do me a favor and also fix the taiga link at the bottom?
14:34 caroline_catlady sure
14:34 caroline_catlady not sure how it looks if you're not connected to taiga though
14:35 cait             hm not sure either - maybe needs a note about getting an account too?
14:39 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #9: UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/9/
14:48 ashimema         cait I'm confused by your last comment
14:48 ashimema         maybe some lines crept in?
15:09 cait             into the maintenance verisons
15:16 cait             belonging to the patchsets
15:16 cait             but i really think it was 19.05 actaully
15:19 reiveune1        bye
15:30 ashimema         indeed
16:01 bcardona         Hi, someone that has Koha with Active Directory working?
16:12 bcardona         Somebody can help me with ldap configuration?
16:32 bcardona         Somebody can help me with ldap configuration?
16:36 caroline_catlady bcardona: maybe send an email to the mailing list?
16:38 bcardona         Hi, somebody can help me with ldap configuration?
16:49 oleonard         bcardona: Did you see caroline_catlady's suggestion?
16:50 bcardona         oleonard, I'll send a message to koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
16:50 oleonard         Please send it to the general list instead of the developers' list
16:51 bcardona         Could you please give me the general list email?
17:04 oleonard         https://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
18:02 oleonard-away    oooh... ashimema is targeting the final demise of the OPAC non-XSLT detail view :D
18:31 ashimema         Mwahahaha
19:40 rangi            ashimema: no you can't block users, (even blocking an email wouldnt work, it's trivial to get a new email address) just have to clean up the spam is really all you can do
19:40 rangi            all anti spam measures don't work against humans
20:03 rangi            @later tell Joubu i wonder if we might want to move some old branches from the main koha.git to http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha-archive.git;a=summary
20:03 huginn`          rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:04 rangi            @later tell Joubu im thinking http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=heads the 5 that aren't released versions anyway
20:04 huginn`          rangi: The operation succeeded.
22:43 caroline_catlady good night all!