Time Nick Message 21:14 davidnind :-D 21:14 cait for so many reasons 21:14 cait davidnind++ 21:12 ashimema Looks interesting, bedtime reading.. 😀 21:10 davidnind ashimema: https://www.coactivate.org/projects/disintermedia/slacking-off and https://davelane.nz/why-slack-better-and-why-open-communities-shouldnt-use-it via Dave Lane 21:08 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23075 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Incorrect URL should have a meaningful error message 21:08 davidnind can now go to work happy, can then test bug 23075 and start on mana section of manual when I get home 21:07 davidnind for the record - if using koha-testing-docker and you make changes to /etc/koha/sites/kohadev/koha-conf.xml you need to do flush_memcached and restart_all to get the changes recognised 21:02 magnuse woohoo for having almost made it 20:49 cait it's already Friday in NZ, we've almost made it 20:49 ashimema Have a good day/evening #koha people 20:49 cait good night :) 20:48 * ashimema needs to go to bed.. brain is rapidly turning off for the evening. 20:48 ashimema https://www.slant.co/versus/12763/12764/~mattermost_vs_matrix 20:48 cait :) 20:48 cait she just made me smile .9 20:48 cait Heather++ 20:47 ashimema Matrix is also open.. different concept though 20:46 inlibro eric.begin: g'night everyone ! 20:46 inlibro eric.begin: Rocket.chat and mattermost are open sourced, don't know about matrix 20:45 cait the most open? :) 20:38 ashimema So many options.. no idea which one to choose to start with 🙃 20:38 ashimema But I also don't personally have the time to try and switch the company to rocket.chat, or mattermost or matrix or whatever... 20:38 ashimema Yeah, I'd rather not be tied to slack 20:35 inlibro eric.begin: I too **have to** use slack too with some other groups :-( 20:32 * magnuse uses slack, but feels bad about it 20:30 magnuse we plan to give it a try, but have not had the time yet 20:30 inlibro eric.begin: magnuse : are you using it ? 20:29 magnuse yay 20:29 inlibro eric.begin: magnuse : I heard good thing of rocket.chat 20:28 magnuse sorry, rocket.chat 20:28 magnuse anyone looked at rockat.chat? should be an alternative to slack 20:26 inlibro eric.begin: Slack still hosted by someone else :-) We try to avoid this as much as possible 20:20 ashimema But I always have Riot (the Matrix client) running to talk to irc 20:20 ashimema We switched from Skype to Slack 20:20 inlibro eric.begin: hmmm... can see that the IRC bridge have some problem though ! 20:18 inlibro eric.begin: :-) Mattermost replaced the communications we were having via Skype before 20:18 inlibro eric.begin: :-) Mattermost replaced the communication we were having via Skype before 20:18 * ashimema looks at mattermost 20:16 inlibro eric.begin: Hello Ashimema ! 20:15 ashimema Hello Eric 20:15 inlibro eric.begin: Yeah ! It works ;-) 20:14 cait hi eric :) 20:14 inlibro eric.begin: test 20:09 inlibro eric.begin: Hello #koha ! 20:09 * inlibro eric.begin: is testing IRC through our Mattermost server !! 20:05 lisettelatah indeed. I am very ready for the weekend. 20:04 cait it#s been kind of a long week 20:00 rhamby I've just decided that my fingers want me to appear to be an idiot. 19:59 cait similar, but worse? :) 19:44 lisettelatah Or do irc commands. How's everyone else doing today? 19:43 lisettelatah me/ can't type today 19:43 lisettelatah hi wizazyrea 19:41 wizzyrea hi 19:19 huginn` mtompset: The operation succeeded. 19:19 mtompset @later tell Joubu bug 22941 has an OPAC counter part. 19:18 huginn` mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 day, 4 hours, 34 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <Joubu> yes 19:18 mtompset @seen Joubu 19:18 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 18:53 magnuse ~~~ 18:46 * cait waves 18:38 magnuse \o/ 16:07 reiveune bye 15:56 wizzyrea hi bye 15:49 liliputech_asu evening koha :) /me -> leaves 14:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #259: FIXED in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/259/ 14:34 wahanui Congratulations! 14:34 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 14:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #276: SUCCESS in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/276/ 14:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #764: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/764/ 13:39 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23053: [follow-up] Same changes for UNIMARC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef0c31f735cf68a3b004c706e274ede4bb883940> 13:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #275: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/275/ 13:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #258: UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/258/ 13:12 tcohen morning cait 13:11 cait hi oleonard :) 13:10 oleonard Hi tcohen, ashimema, cait 13:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #763: FIXED in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/763/ 13:10 wahanui Congratulations! 13:10 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 13:03 cait tcohen: qa? :) 13:03 cait morning tcohen :) 12:50 ashimema morning tcohen 12:49 tcohen morning all 12:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #274: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/274/ 12:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #257: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/257/ 12:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #762: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/762/ 12:13 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22585: Add Justin Rittenhouse to contributors <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a3454b4b28596c7b49224a75d02ec97a7b815a7> 12:13 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21662: (RM follow-up) Final followup corrections to history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=510cf514a342cb9062d1c51cdf1d41b6772ad90a> 12:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #99: FIXED in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/99/ 12:05 wahanui Congratulations! 12:05 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 12:03 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22633: Link barcodes in hold summary in patron account to moredetail page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad9338e419ee04c38f5e7fdc918ce1a4d177cee0> 12:03 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23065: Rename "New subscription" button when default to current serial <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2be5b0c65ddf992e451e5b8c12cf0994038186e> 11:51 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 7890: Highlight required field in MARC editor <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=93c9b5d553261acda55f1f29f8687c5f4c276e04> 11:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #273: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/273/ 11:46 oleonard y 11:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #256: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/256/ 11:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #761: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/761/ 11:32 oleonard Hi all 11:08 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 16750: Redirect from selectbranchprinter.pl to additem.pl causes software error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d7c8c12e70295f4dd15a3435235c81539c333f5> 11:08 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22585: remove double-escape for CAS URL <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3e047f638ac7e6095d56c064f0e6cb8038a8524> 11:08 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 14794: Display JS tooltip whenever dateofbirth is being searched <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=07d6e9f142a588f26c52582d9b5d99b714fa1fd7> 11:08 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 14794: (follow-up) Add tooltip to filter box <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac41566cddb737c19282bc577cf31882f168384b> 11:08 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22585: (follow-up) Fix additional occurences <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=15dcde21fe9b34d287844aab75426e6387c7b4cf> 11:08 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23093: (bug 22318 follow-up) Use placeholders in query moving OpacNavRight <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18f2074f8df8598527ae8e126c4efc7f3be000e0> 11:08 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23095: Correctly display circulation rules (0 vs undef) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3de89b98ce373818c4b6f5a0a90b8786996e6cfe> 11:07 ashimema incoming 11:00 kidclamp hi martin! 10:45 ashimema hi kidclamp 10:44 * kidclamp waves 09:52 ashimema I'd like to move 'credits with outstanding balances' to the bottom and make them clearly distinct from the rest 09:51 ashimema and online payments doesn't allow them to partially pay either 09:51 ashimema they can't apply credits to debits themselves yet 09:50 ashimema how can you prevent them from doing so ;) 09:48 cait but would you want them to overpay? 09:28 ashimema very confusing for the patron 09:27 ashimema the 'Amount to pay' is significantly more than the 'Total due' 09:27 ashimema so when you select to pay all 09:27 ashimema but they've not 09:27 ashimema so.. the 'Total due' in the table includes all credits as if they've been applied 09:26 ashimema https://imgur.com/UO6qjKO 09:25 cait woudl you expect to pay the 'rest' (total - credit) or the total and leave the credit as left 09:25 ashimema my point is.. if you've checked to pay all.. the total displayed in the table will not match the amount to pay 09:24 cait or do we show the credits as applied on the single lines? (maybe a screenshot would help) 09:24 ashimema online payments does indeed pay oldest first 09:24 cait and online payments pays the oldest first? 09:24 cait not sure - we don't show it for the single lines, do we? 09:23 cait hm 09:23 ashimema so it's rather misleading as it stands 09:22 ashimema online payments will pay the first totaly.. not the one which includes credits as if they were applied 09:22 cait that's what they expect to pay 09:22 cait i think we could show a total and a total with credits applied 09:21 cait i think it's good to have it all in one table 09:21 ashimema and... that even if you've not set to autoapply credits to debts the 'total' at the bottom of the page reads as though all credits are applied 09:21 cait hm not ticket, bug, my brain is confused this week 09:21 cait but... accounting doesn't work for patrons i think. 09:21 cait i have a ticket open to rneame it 09:20 ashimema does anyone else find it strange that we list 'credits' on the 'fines and charges' page in the opac? 09:18 ashimema that just makes me giggle 09:17 ashimema lol 09:17 cait [off] https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/PTFS_Harley_Integration 09:16 cait it alwaysmade me think of motorcycles 09:16 cait heh 09:03 magnuse wow, i had completely forgotten harley 08:53 ashimema I see 08:53 ashimema lol 08:52 cait it was code left over from the last accoutns rewrite 08:52 cait i think we removed that by now 08:52 cait there used to be a notify table and some odd columns in the payment screens 08:49 ashimema ta 08:49 cait sec, i am checking 08:49 ashimema what notify stuff 08:49 ashimema kick out notify stuff? 08:49 ashimema ermm 08:48 cait i lost ttrack... but did we kick out all the notify stuff? 08:48 cait the templates are due a clean up 08:48 cait subtotals for different types of fines 08:48 ashimema I don't think it exists at all now and can be removed to clean up the template slightly 08:47 ashimema yeah.. it looks like it could be 08:47 cait my memory dates around the time of the harley release things 08:47 cait i am not sure if that still works 08:47 cait ashimema: i think it might be an older display where they grouped rentals etc. together 08:24 ashimema hmm 08:24 ashimema looks like it was introduced with partial payments 08:20 * ashimema is wondering if it's a leftover from the past 08:20 ashimema accross the whole codebase.. 08:19 ashimema I can't find any reference to account_grp anywhere else 08:19 ashimema anyone here know where 'account_grp.total' comes from in the members/pay.tt template? 07:39 calire hi marcelr 07:16 wahanui hello, fridolin 07:16 fridolin hi 07:16 ashimema Mornin' #koha 07:09 cait good morning #koha 07:02 alex_a bonjour 06:49 liliputech_asu bonjour :) 06:37 marcelr bonjour reiveune 06:36 reiveune hello 06:27 marcelr and hi bag 06:27 bag evening! 06:26 marcelr hi calire 06:26 calire morning 06:21 marcelr hi #koha 04:04 kidclamp We should always be more verbose in test plans, that is never a bad idea 04:03 kidclamp mtompset++ 04:02 mtompset kidclamp++ # MY bad, I should have read more on the wiki page for the emulator