Time  Nick               Message
20:08 rangi              morning
19:07 wizzyrea           hi everybody
16:17 reiveune           bye
16:04 oleonard           Thank goodness for meetings or logbot would have nothing to do
14:38 davidnind          right, better try and gets some zzzs
14:38 davidnind          tcohen: my email is david.nind@gmail.com
14:33 davidnind          always need a backup...
14:31 davidnind          caroline_catlady: that would be great!
14:30 * oleonard         looks forward to more cat videos on the YouTube channel
14:30 caroline_catlady   (davidnind You can take care of it, I will just be a backup)
14:30 davidnind          thanks tcohen! that would be great!
14:30 caroline_catlady   email address?
14:29 caroline_catlady   what do you need?
14:29 tcohen             caroline_catlady, davidnind I have access to the YouTube channel, I created it. Let's talk about handing you control
14:26 tcohen             I created it, and gave access to wizzyrea (at least tried)
14:25 tcohen             davidnind: me!
14:24 davidnind          Which was in 2014
14:24 davidnind          Maybe tcohen, as the video on the channel is from the one they did for Kohacon in Argentina
14:22 caroline_catlady   There is a small section on here https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_19.11 but it doesn't say who has the admin password
14:21 oleonard           (that page is almost certainly out of date)
14:21 oleonard           Not listed here, unfortunately: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Social_Networks
14:19 davidnind          Would like to start curating playlists and things... and maybe add Kohacon videos
14:19 davidnind          Does anyone know who has the Koha YouTube channel access info? https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqOmLE1-kt84liiG5233BRQ
14:16 * ashimema         runs off on a school run.. brb
14:16 ashimema           davidnind++
14:16 ashimema           haha.. I'm always amazed at your attendance davidnind.. huge commitment :)
14:15 davidnind          :)
14:14 wizzyrea           well it's just 12 hours :)
14:14 oleonard           yeah, ashimema I don't think you get to complain to davidnind :)
14:14 wizzyrea           yeah nz is a real problem
14:13 ashimema           indeed
14:09 davidnind          just have to be night owls I guess :)
14:08 caroline_catlady   it's excatly 12 hours I think, so anything during the day in one place is during the night in the other
14:07 caroline_catlady   it's hard to get a good time for both NZ and western europe...
14:06 ashimema           oh well
14:06 ashimema           ouch.. i forgot we're in BST over here.. I just set the next meeting to be at 9pm UK.. lol
14:05 ashimema           lol
14:04 oleonard           #info Owen Leonard -- Too late!
14:03 ashimema           agree
14:02 davidnind          strike while the iron is hot!
14:02 donnab             last couple of weeks of June should be fine!
14:02 caroline_catlady   you're right, I always try to please everyone....
14:01 greenjimll         You're never going to please everyone, even with a Doodle poll.
14:01 caroline_catlady   I feel like june is too soon, but July and August are vacation months
14:00 greenjimll         Pick a month and then pick dates in that month you're available as a starter
14:00 donnab             pick 10
14:00 caroline_catlady   I don't want to put 45 dates on there, but I have no idea of the range
13:59 * caroline_catlady hates choosing dates for a poll
13:58 * ashimema         goes and runs the meetings script
13:57 davidnind          ashimema++
13:57 caroline_catlady   ashimema++
13:57 ashimema           thanks all
13:56 huginn`            Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_5_june_2019.2019-06-05-13.08.log.html
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13:56 ashimema           #endmeeting
13:56 ashimema           #info Next meeting: 10 July 2019, 20 UTC
13:56 davidnind          https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings
13:56 davidnind          there is hope :)
13:55 Charles_Quain      Lovely. Talk soon.
13:55 thd                20 UTC may be more in the direction of the previous alternate norm but I am not certain.
13:55 ashimema           ok with that too thd.. or did you have any particular want of it being 18UTC?
13:55 ashimema           of course.. US has lots of different times.. i know you lot are spread about ;)
13:54 ashimema           8pm UK, 3pm US and 7am NZ (unless my math is out)
13:54 georgew            +1
13:54 ashimema           that timing should mean we might catch a NZ person perhaps
13:53 thd                18 UTC was the previous meeting.
13:53 davidnind          +1
13:53 kidclamp           +1
13:53 Charles_Quain      OK with me
13:53 ashimema           ok,, 10 July 2019, 20 UTC it is unless I get any other options in the next minute or so?
13:51 wizzyrea           good morning friends bah I missed the meeting
13:51 * ashimema         digs out a timezone display
13:51 ashimema           20 UTC
13:51 ashimema           and what time shall we make it
13:50 ashimema           so 10th.. sounds good to me
13:50 Charles_Quain      I dont have any particular preference
13:50 ashimema           we could postpone it by a week
13:50 thd                The following week should be fine for the US and may be before people in Europe leave for summer holidays.
13:49 thd                Late on the day before independence day could be very bad for participation from the US.
13:49 ashimema           hmm, is that going to be a challenge for our friends over in the US then.. should we try a little earlier/later?
13:48 thd                The first Wed. 3 July but also a day before independence day holiday in the US.
13:47 ashimema           #topic Set time of next meeting
13:46 ashimema           so.. I think that just leaves us with setting a time for the next meeting
13:46 ashimema           teamwork++
13:46 ashimema           ++
13:46 caroline_catlady   thx donnab :)
13:46 donnab             I think it's an awesome idea caroline and will be happy to help in any way I can!
13:45 caroline_catlady   anyway, that's all I wanted to say
13:44 ashimema           there was also some discussion about adding plugin listings to mana.. I think there's a bug for it.. but who knows when/if we'll have a chance to do it.
13:44 greenjimll         :-)
13:44 caroline_catlady   nsorry not duplicate what is in the bibliography
13:44 * ashimema         likes having 'one place to rule them all'
13:44 caroline_catlady   right now the focus is on plugins
13:44 greenjimll         Not to deduplicate?
13:43 caroline_catlady   but it's still just an idea
13:43 caroline_catlady   I will try not to deduplicate
13:43 caroline_catlady   ashimema: yes
13:43 thd                I assume that Zoom provides faciltiies for recording the session for everyone's future benefit.
13:43 ashimema           are you aware of the bibliography?
13:43 greenjimll         Cataloguing Koha release documents?
13:43 caroline_catlady   like youtube videos and things
13:43 ashimema           #info caroline_catlady is going to start cataloging koha plugins, please send her your repositories if you've built any plugins.
13:43 caroline_catlady   I also wanted to widen the purpose of that catalog a bit and maube add training materials
13:42 caroline_catlady   If anyone has a repo for their plugins, please send it to me
13:42 ashimema           haha.. brilliant
13:42 caroline_catlady   inLibro will host the installation and I will start to catalog them
13:41 caroline_catlady   rangi proposed setting up a koha for plugins and 'cataloging' them
13:41 caroline_catlady   During Kohacon, it was also decided that we would create a catalog for plugins
13:40 ashimema           brill
13:40 caroline_catlady   Oh something else!
13:40 Charles_Quain      Interleaf will definitely be part of it.
13:40 caroline_catlady   I think that was it unless other people had input on this subject?
13:39 ashimema           #action caroline_catlady will send a doodle/framadate to the list to determine a date for a first trainer/educator meeting
13:39 ashimema           but for good measure
13:39 ashimema           I 'think' you can
13:39 ashimema           awesome, you beat me to it
13:39 caroline_catlady   (can I action even if I'm not chair?)
13:39 caroline_catlady   #action caroline_catlady will send a doodle/framadate to the list to determine a date for a first trainer/educator meeting
13:38 * ashimema         knows he's not got the ptfs-e trainer calenders to hand and I'm sure they're like to attend ;)
13:38 georgew            i'd prefer a doodle or framadate poll - then I could indicate if there were any times that our Zoom accounts were unavailable
13:37 ashimema           I think a doodle/framadate is probably best.. that should catch a few more people who may be interested
13:37 caroline_catlady   would you like me to send a doodle/framadate to the list or decide on a date here and now?
13:36 * ashimema         now sees that as a challenge :P
13:36 ashimema           fancy proposing a date on the lists as a first step caroline?
13:36 caroline_catlady   holy cow!
13:36 donnab             a webinar will hold 100 people
13:36 georgew            our accounts will accomodate up to 100 attendees
13:36 donnab             I can offer the ByWater education zoom room too
13:36 caroline_catlady   I have a free zoom account but i've never used it
13:36 caroline_catlady   zoom accomodates how many people?
13:36 georgew            I'd be willing to host the meeting on one of our Zoom accounts and, after the meeting is started it's not hard to give control of the meeting to someone else
13:35 ashimema           good meet is also an option.. we've always found it to be very reliable (and free)
13:35 ashimema           would you 'host' it caroline/david or would you rotate hosting it around participating organisations?
13:35 caroline_catlady   then we can iron out the details
13:35 georgew            it would depend on scheduling, but we have two Zoom accoounts that are usually available
13:35 caroline_catlady   So the idea here was to set a date for a first meeting
13:35 lisette            Sounds like a great idea!
13:34 Charles_Quain      I agree that it is a terific idea
13:34 georgew            NEKLS might be able to offer the use of a Zoom room for this type of meeting
13:34 caroline_catlady   I hadn't thpought of that
13:34 donnab             I think a video conf would be better
13:34 caroline_catlady   I don't think there would be a set agenda like there is for actual meetings
13:33 ashimema           is irc the right format or are you thinking something more like a video conf?
13:33 ashimema           #idea Lets share more documentation materials and training practices with each other.
13:33 georgew            i think it's an awesome idea
13:33 donnab             I think quarterly would be good
13:33 caroline_catlady   (anyone feel free to jump in)
13:33 caroline_catlady   maybe 3-4 per year?
13:33 caroline_catlady   I don't think it's necessary to do one every month like the others
13:32 caroline_catlady   so the idea was to propose to add a meeting to the calendar where trainers/educators could exchange on ideas/best practices/materials
13:32 caroline_catlady   but we thought it might be interesting to share
13:32 caroline_catlady   about how the organizations (support companies, et al) all have practices and materials  for training that we develop in our corner
13:31 caroline_catlady   Ok, so during Kohacon, a conversation sparked during one of the conferences (i think it was donnab 's?)
13:30 ashimema           the floor is yours :)
13:30 koha-jenkins       Project Koha_Master_D8 build #264: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/264/
13:30 caroline_catlady   let me just find it
13:30 caroline_catlady   I had written something somewhere
13:30 ashimema           oh.. coolios
13:29 ashimema           davidnind: That one is our isn't it?
13:29 caroline_catlady   oh yes, that's me
13:29 ashimema           #topic Training meeting proposition
13:29 ashimema           next topic
13:29 ashimema           right now focus on bugfixes
13:28 ashimema           acquisitions is one area I hope to get us working together on
13:28 ashimema           #info RM will send a mail later this week with some general target area's for this cycle
13:27 ashimema           I'll be sending a mail to the dev lists later this week with some dev targets.. I'm a little behind where I'd hoped to be
13:26 ashimema           Was going to discuss that with fridolin to make sure I don't make his life too hard early on.. but I'm of the same opinion
13:26 greenjimll         Is there a particular area of future development/bugs that needs focusing on?
13:25 tcohen             :-D
13:25 tcohen             don't delay it
13:25 tcohen             Martin, push the accounts work as it gets through QA
13:25 fridolin           hi
13:25 ashimema           #info The new team is all in place and we're all warming up to the new cycle
13:25 koha-jenkins       Project Koha_Master_U18 build #248: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/248/
13:25 ashimema           none of them are around..
13:24 ashimema           hmm
13:23 ashimema           no, rmaints is fridolin, lucas and wizzyrea
13:22 ashimema           haha.. that needs an update now
13:22 wahanui            rmaints is, like, ashimema and fridolin are the rmaints
13:22 ashimema           rmaints?
13:22 ashimema           #info I'm pushing bugs only for at least another couple of weeks whilst I get up to speed as a new RM for 19.11
13:21 ashimema           #topic Update on releases
13:21 ashimema           let's move on then :)
13:20 Charles_Quain      Think that's all - sorry for messing your agenda sequence!
13:20 ashimema           anything else kohacon Charles_Quain
13:20 ashimema           #info Sponsoring a development or donating it as a starter kitty for the next Kohacon in NZ are just a couple of options
13:19 ashimema           #info There should end up a reasonably surplus on the Kohacon19 budget, lets discus a good use of that at the next meeting
13:18 koha-jenkins       Project Koha_Master_D9 build #754: FIXED in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/754/
13:18 wahanui            Congratulations!
13:18 koha-jenkins       Yippee, build fixed!
13:18 ashimema           we've jumped down the agenda a bit.. but that's fine with me.. kohacon is good to talk about
13:18 Charles_Quain      No, the survey will be there too.
13:17 caroline_catlady   ?
13:17 caroline_catlady   are the results from the survey to be included in the report or is that just for you/next year's info
13:17 Charles_Quain      Maybe put it on the agenda for the next IRC
13:17 Charles_Quain      I'd like to suggest that we use the surplus to fund some development in Koha.
13:17 Charles_Quain      still some final bills to come in.
13:17 ashimema           #info Kohacon19 will have a nice report sent out in the next few days
13:16 Charles_Quain      Looks like we will have a surplus of about €2000 in the budget.
13:16 greenjimll         If anyone wants to write a trip report on Kohacon19 for Ariadne journal, I hear the editor is willing to listen. :-)
13:16 Charles_Quain      4 scheduled speakers were unable to attend.
13:16 Charles_Quain      We did not count Culture Day attendees
13:16 fraktik            #info Tomáš Wünsch, Municipal Library Usti nad Orlici, Czech Republic
13:16 Charles_Quain      77 Attended on Thursday
13:16 Charles_Quain      99 Attended on Wednesday
13:16 Charles_Quain      116 Attended on Tuesday
13:16 Charles_Quain      112 Attended on Monday
13:16 Charles_Quain      15 Cancelled before the event
13:16 Charles_Quain      207 Signed Up
13:15 magnuse            kidclamp++
13:15 Charles_Quain      Will post it tomorrow or early next week.
13:15 fraktik            #Tomáš Wünsch, Municipal Library Usti nad Orlici, Czech Republic
13:15 ashimema           kidclamp++
13:15 Charles_Quain      I am putting the finishing touches to a report on the event.
13:15 Charles_Quain      On KohaCon....
13:15 Charles_Quain      Great work on 19.05. Some really great stuff in it.
13:15 greenjimll         Great to have the YouTube coverage of Kohacon19
13:14 ashimema           ooh.. my irc seems to have a lag again today
13:14 ashimema           anyone got anything else to announce?
13:14 ashimema           Great to see everyone there :)
13:14 ashimema           and, we had a successful Kohacon19 :)
13:14 ashimema           #info 19.05.00, 18.11.06 and 18.05.13 were all released since we last met
13:14 ashimema           Well, we succesfully released 19.05.00, 18.11.06, 18.05.13 :)
13:14 ashimema           #topic Announcements
13:14 ashimema           #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_5_June_2019 Agenda
13:13 josef_moravec_     #info Josef Moravec, Czech Republic
13:12 magnuse            ah, missed that
13:12 Charles_Quain      Sorry. Still not used to IRC. Re-did it!
13:12 greenjimll         The agenda is in: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_5_June_2019
13:12 magnuse            Charles_Quain: you forgot the "info" after the # :-)
13:11 caroline_catlady   tbh, I had forgotten it was earlier than usual, literally just got in
13:11 greenjimll         #info Jon Knight, Loughborough University
13:11 tcohen             agenda?
13:10 tcohen             #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions
13:10 magnuse            #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway
13:10 wahanui            niihau, tcohen
13:10 tcohen             hi
13:10 kidclamp           #info Nick Clemens,ByWater Solutions
13:10 ashimema           now they poor in :)
13:10 khall              #info Kyle Hall, ByWater Solutions
13:10 thd                #info Thomas Duk;eth, Agogme, New York City
13:10 davidnind          #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand
13:09 Charles_Quain      #info Charles Quain, Interleaf Technology
13:09 donnab             #info Donna Bachowski - ByWater Solutions
13:09 lisette            #info Lisette Scheer, Latah County Library District
13:09 Charles_Quain      # Charles Quain, Interleaf Technology
13:09 georgew            #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System
13:09 caroline_catlady   #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro
13:09 ashimema           #info Martin Renvoize - PTFS Europe
13:09 ashimema           #topic Introductions
13:08 huginn`            The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_5_june_2019'
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13:08 huginn`            Meeting started Wed Jun  5 13:08:37 2019 UTC.  The chair is ashimema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
13:08 ashimema           #startmeeting General IRC meeting 5 June 2019
13:08 georgew            I think it may be so quick that it might be over already
13:07 ashimema           coolios.. could be a nice quick one then
13:07 ashimema           there indeed is.. so long as we've got enough people to actually say anything ;)
13:07 thd                yes
13:07 davidnind          yep
13:06 ashimema           it's deadly quiet today
13:06 georgew            I'm here because I thought there was a meeting this morning
13:06 Charles_Quain      charles here
13:05 ashimema           anyone around?
12:59 * ashimema         had totaly forgoten that
12:59 ashimema           ooh.. general meeting
12:45 huginn`            News from kohagit: Bug 22982: Paying lost fee does not always remove lost item from checkouts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=20dde4cc4acf35ba9f5edc76c5271198217994e6>
12:45 huginn`            News from kohagit: Bug 22982: Add unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=986629b29f8651a99f877444c69dec2838f513d8>
12:45 huginn`            News from kohagit: Bug 22982: (QA follow-up) Add behavior to Koha::Account::Line::apply and unit test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f417c15e499745a7cd35fd1c8c5ae79888857199>
11:56 calire             hi magnuse :)
11:49 magnuse            Guten Tag calire
11:21 alex_a             Salut magnuse
11:20 magnuse            hiya alex_a
11:19 alex_a             Bonjour
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10:01 fraktik            @karma
09:34 * ashimema         is confused.. same failures... but all I pushed was a tiny string patch
09:33 koha-jenkins       Project Koha_Master_D9 build #753: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/753/
09:12 * magnuse          needs lunch
09:12 magnuse            hi indradg
09:11 magnuse            hi vfernandes
09:11 vfernandes         hi #koha
09:05 magnuse            those are the best kind...
09:05 ashimema           Grr, random failures
08:40 koha-jenkins       Project Koha_Master_U18 build #247: STILL UNSTABLE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/247/
08:40 koha-jenkins       Project Koha_Master_D9 build #752: UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/752/
08:11 koha-jenkins       Project Koha_Master_D8 build #263: SUCCESS in 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/263/
07:44 huginn`            News from kohagit: Bug 23037: Add Henry Bolshaw to contributors <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=72d4b10bf4abcfc36a9f3bac263ad182b6512088>
07:39 josef_moravec      morning #koha
07:37 * magnuse          waves