Time  Nick             Message
21:39 caroline_catlady good night!
19:56 davidnind        oh well, one of those mysteries I guess (goes away to make a cup of tea, and contemplate the matrix)
19:48 davidnind        I do have a slack user thingy somewhere, but don't really use it (and not logged in)
19:47 ashimema         Could be matrix
19:46 ashimema         So I have an M
19:46 caroline_catlady ... just noticed a bunch of [m] appeared at the same time...
19:43 davidnind        that's what I thought, but my phone is right beside me and I didn't touch it - I do have an IRC client on my phone, but haven't used it or ste it up
19:38 davidnind        caroline_catlady: possibly my evil twin or maybe the good twin
19:37 caroline_catlady maybe [m] is for mobile?
19:37 davidnind        one of me is probably tolerable, but anymore than that would be weird :)
19:36 caroline_catlady your evil twin?
19:35 davidnind        is confused, doesn't know who davidnind[m] is
19:12 wizzyrea         i hope so I'd really hate to see the SIP logs go another release without that fix >.<
19:12 ashimema         We'll work on it next week..
19:12 ashimema         I think just that patch may be reworkable
19:11 ashimema         So all the tests go noisy if they touch anything that uses Koha::Logger
19:11 ashimema         Turns out they're not in the testing environment
19:11 ashimema         It introduced a slightly different way of warning if the log file is writable
19:10 wahanui          i guess Everything is fine and direct access to our 30000 books MySQL database is super fast.
19:10 ashimema         Everything
19:00 wizzyrea         it's just the SIP tests that are failing or others
18:59 wizzyrea         those logs are SO ANNOYING as they are.
18:59 ashimema         We'll fix it
18:57 oleonard         Have a good weekend, #koha
18:54 wizzyrea         I think we need to fix it instead of reverting. :(
18:53 wizzyrea         that's very sad about the sip logs
18:53 wizzyrea         hmm
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18:41 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
18:40 oleonard         Bye ashimema
18:36 ashimema         have a good weekend all
18:35 ashimema         too late for brain
18:35 * ashimema       clocks off..
18:35 ashimema         it's just this line isn't it: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blobdiff;f=Koha/Logger.pm;h=ed85c99d72916fc300b6d5dbaefbb794d2a3b50f;hp=39e8ba3e9fe98b7a52cfd74547ff38ff0306cc0f;hb=296e0ce224debc9e1541683220df2306e166963f;hpb=97faa17d710ed9e26f23e53a6dfbbd3ba79a3589
18:34 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_U18 build #205: FIXED in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/205/
18:34 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
18:25 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D9 build #711: FIXED in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/711/
18:25 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
18:20 kidclamp         But didn't have it before those patches
18:20 kidclamp         I had that warning because the log in my docker was owned by root
18:03 * ashimema       hopes he didn't just misread that bug
18:03 ashimema         Perhaps the longer term fix is to configure logs on koha-testing-docker?
18:03 ashimema         Sorta looks like the warning was introduced the catch this sort of case
18:02 ashimema         Interesting, so does that mean logging has never worked in tests
18:00 ashimema         I thought it was me
18:00 ashimema         Oh, cool
17:59 kidclamp         that should fix the log errors ashimema
17:58 huginn`          News from kohagit: Revert "Bug 15253: (follow-up) Fix qa complaints" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=97faa17d710ed9e26f23e53a6dfbbd3ba79a3589>
17:58 huginn`          News from kohagit: Revert "Bug 15253: Add Koha::Logger based logging for SIP2" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=296e0ce224debc9e1541683220df2306e166963f>
17:53 * oleonard-away  just found himself getting excited about DataTables buttons... might be in a little too deep
17:00 cait             and bywater++ just reading the report from VT
16:59 cait             khall++
16:59 cait             i missed you here, just realized you had come back :)
16:59 cait             heh
16:59 * khall          likes all the cookies :)
16:58 cait             khall: what kind of cookies do you like? I am missing your signature... :)
16:57 cait             :)
16:57 cait             kidclamp: you can strive to fill them...
16:55 * ashimema       did go a bit QA mad this last cycle
16:54 ashimema         lol
16:52 kidclamp         ashimema has big shoes
16:52 kidclamp         not filling his shoes. but sure
16:52 tcohen           hi
16:52 cait             kidclamp: you are stepping in for ashimema, right?
16:51 cait             kidclamp: am gald to have you on board too :)
16:48 * ashimema       roles up his sleeves..
16:48 ashimema         string freeze on monday too
16:47 * ashimema       quietly weeps as he looks at his RMaint queue.. how did it creep back up to over 100 commits :'(
16:39 ashimema         ashimema is back.. not more ashimema_ !
16:39 ashimema         wahoo
16:34 reiveune         bye
16:29 * ashimema_      thinks it must be nearly beer o'clock
16:29 ashimema_        hehe
16:29 kidclamp         :-D
16:29 kidclamp         I do love pita, with hummus, yum
16:27 ashimema_        in his own words
16:27 * ashimema_      is pleased to see we have kidclamp the PITA tester signed up ;)
16:26 cait             don't give me nightmares
16:24 * oleonard       doesn't want us to miss out on him being in the QA team
16:17 * ashimema_      doesn't want him to miss out on being in the QA team ;)
16:16 ashimema_        anyone know if Joubu will be back during the next cycle
16:13 ashimema_        the end result should be a significantly clearer use of the accountypes with status's to clarify their purposes.. we we're re-using accounttypes all over the place
16:11 ashimema_        but yeah.. there's allot of prefs at play
16:11 ashimema_        I'm pretty darn confident in that code now (I wasn't at all confident in it before this excersize)
16:11 ashimema_        that's about the most waffly test plan I've written
16:07 wizzyrea         in the real-ish world
16:07 wizzyrea         with their data
16:07 wizzyrea         gonna have to get a library to test that I reckon
16:07 wizzyrea         hm
16:05 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22563 enhancement, P4, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Convert lost handling to use 'status' instead of multiple accounttypes
16:05 * ashimema_      is currently trying to come up with a sane test plan for bug 22563 and falling flat
16:04 wizzyrea         i now have semantic satiation on untidiness.
16:04 ashimema_        lol
16:03 wizzyrea         what a funny word
16:03 wizzyrea         hehe my untidiness was a typo
16:03 ashimema_        just untidyiness I think.. it can complicate reverts if you need to do any.. but generally it's just untidyiness I think
16:02 wizzyrea         mostly just curious
16:02 wizzyrea         what is the actual harm, besides git log untidyiness
16:01 ashimema_        okies.. maybe I'm a bit lenient there then
15:58 kidclamp         Yeah, I like a squash if there is that warning, but I don't like to do the squash, I like the patch author to clean things up
15:47 wizzyrea         I like enabling people to be awesome ;)
15:47 ashimema_        totally.. I really respect you for that.. I'm of a very similar nature.. I will always try to do the trivial bits myself and perhaps comment for next time
15:47 wizzyrea         (when you can do it without messing up their stuff or making decisions they'd be upset about)
15:46 wizzyrea         easing that is nice.
15:46 wizzyrea         that's annoying
15:46 wizzyrea         it sucks to be a dev and have someone just say "nah, stupid tiny detail you missed make a whole new set"
15:46 wizzyrea         naw I'm not gonna worry too much about it I didn't see the point really and I do like to tidy things off for people when I can
15:46 wizzyrea         kek
15:46 ashimema_        if a QAer fancies arguing the difference over it send 'em my way.. haha
15:45 ashimema_        yeah.. skim over it in that case :)
15:45 wizzyrea         yes that is exactly what is happening here
15:45 ashimema_        these were often introduced recently when people were asked to do followups to change the .sql file to .perl for atomicupdates
15:45 wizzyrea         i imagine I could make it come out ok in this case but mm
15:45 ashimema_        sometimes it's nice to see it just as a 'Hey, you might want to double check this' moment.. but I certainly wouldn't worry enough to fail it.
15:44 wizzyrea         especially if one part is whitespace cleanup
15:44 ashimema_        yeah.. I'd firmly stick it in the camp of it's become a qa script noise item rather than a really helpful warning
15:44 wizzyrea         that makes sense, comprehensible bits are nice
15:44 wizzyrea         but in this case it's not
15:43 wizzyrea         if it were my work, I would
15:43 ashimema_        in fact.. even when squasing at the end I like them to be in nice clear distinct parts rather than squashing to one bigger less comprehensible commit
15:43 oleonard         wizzyrea: If you're squashing at the end can't you just ignore the warning?
15:43 ashimema_        http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/authors.html
15:43 ashimema_        precisely
15:43 wizzyrea         :D
15:43 wizzyrea         easy rollbacks!
15:43 wizzyrea         I do like to make a zillion tiny commits myself, and squash them at the end
15:42 ashimema_        though of course.. that doesn't help one's personal git statistics ;)
15:42 wizzyrea         i don't like to rebase others work either
15:42 wizzyrea         right I won't worry too much about it
15:42 ashimema_        I do the same.. I like to squash at the end
15:42 wizzyrea         as long as authorship can be maintained
15:42 ashimema_        kidclamp: do you have an opinion no that?
15:42 ashimema_        I never rebase someone elses work for that warning and unless it's a really horrible case I pretty much never ask them to clean it up as part of the QA process..
15:41 wizzyrea         but I'd like a squash at the end
15:41 wizzyrea         me personally, I like patch sets when work is in progress
15:41 ashimema_        yeah.. totally
15:41 ashimema_        but is that really that bad I ask?
15:41 ashimema_        yes.. it's minor noise in the commit log
15:41 ashimema_        I'm not entirely sure why we're especially worried about those to be honest
15:41 wizzyrea         esp when it's not your work
15:40 wizzyrea         but rebasing is rather annoying. :P
15:40 wizzyrea         I'm not *really* afraid
15:40 wizzyrea         well
15:40 ashimema_        and then attach the new set of patches to bz
15:40 wizzyrea         right that's what I was afraid of
15:40 ashimema_        but if we did want to clean them up then really the only way is to rebase and squash the addition and removal commits together
15:40 ashimema_        personally I sometimes find it helpful to see the logic
15:39 ashimema_        well.. I tend to ignore them during QA and leave it upto the RM to clean up
15:38 wizzyrea         mostly it seems legit, person does a dev, then they are asked to do it differently so they do, in a series of commits
15:37 wizzyrea         have had two of these in the last couple of days
15:37 wizzyrea         if you know
15:36 wizzyrea         The file has been added and deleted in the same patchset
15:36 wizzyrea         git manipulation
15:36 wizzyrea         what is the best way to get rid of
15:36 wizzyrea         if you are about
15:36 ashimema_        hi
15:36 wizzyrea         heyy ashimema_
15:27 ashimema_        oh well
15:27 wizzyrea         bum
15:27 ashimema_        odd
15:27 ashimema_        doesn't appear to be the case here
15:27 ashimema_        very true
15:27 wizzyrea         usually, in my experience, when things suddenly go non-writable it's because there's no space so that's always what I think of first
15:23 ashimema_        perhaps not.. I'll dig a little further
15:23 ashimema_        erm.. should have plenty
15:21 wizzyrea         how's your disk space
15:21 ashimema_        is that a new thing.. or is it just me
15:21 ashimema_        I'm suddenly getting loads of `Log file /var/log/koha/kohadev/intranet-error.log is not writable! at /kohadevbox/koha/Koha/Logger.pm line 163.` errors when running tests in koha-testing-docker
15:21 cait             hm?
15:21 ashimema_        wow
15:12 cait             kidclamp++ # rejoining QA team
15:12 * cait           misses Joubu
15:10 oleonard         I'm not sure how that would work with the template plugin
15:08 cait             would something like size() work?
15:08 cait             aah
15:08 oleonard         Yes. For instance: OpacHeader: The template checks for the existence of the preference and includes some markup around the preference which otherwise wouldn't appear.
15:07 cait             can you give an example?
15:03 huginn`          Bug 22318: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Extend Koha news feature to include other content areas
15:03 oleonard         I'd love to hear suggestions about how to answer this question: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22318#c5
14:58 ashimema_        ++
14:52 wizzyrea         yaaaaaay
14:45 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22318 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Extend Koha news feature to include other content areas
14:45 oleonard         I guess it's time to start making follow-ups to Bug 22318!
14:33 wizzyrea         oh yes
14:33 oleonard         Also several Wes Anderson soundtracks, which are always excellent
14:31 wizzyrea         fun fact, Mark Mothersbaugh did the soundtrack for the likes of "the lego movie" and "thor: ragnarok"
14:30 wizzyrea         hehe
14:30 oleonard         Also, that "up next" queue is top shelf
14:30 wizzyrea         bonus kohadevo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MT16GpuZks
14:29 * wizzyrea       just typed "kohadevo" instead of "kohadev" and suddenly had the urge to hear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_QLzthSkfM
14:24 wizzyrea         best country
14:22 oleonard         I don't get the day off Friday but my kids do, so I have to take a vacation day
14:21 caroline_catlady we only get monday...
14:20 caroline_catlady here only one is mandatory (friday OR monday), but most governmental orgs have both
14:18 cait             :(
14:18 wizzyrea         not in the US
14:18 cait             and monday?
14:18 cait             is tomorrow a public holiday everywhere?
14:06 wizzyrea         hehe
14:06 caroline_catlady hi!
14:06 oleonard         Expanding the scope of my bug fixes as usual
14:05 wizzyrea         how we doin today
14:04 oleonard         Hi wizzyrea
14:04 wizzyrea         hi
14:03 oleonard         Hi edveal
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12:32 kidclamp         I will try again
12:32 oleonard         No kidclamp I'm not able to recreate the issue with 520$A. I modified a framework to include it, added a value to a record, did an item search for that value, and the correct result was returned.
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12:27 oleonard         Let me check again.
12:27 oleonard         No sorry I think I wasn't thorough
12:27 kidclamp         Ah, cool, I saw the form fix but missed that
12:26 oleonard         Yes, and I submitted a follow-up
12:26 kidclamp         Could you recreate my issue with 520$A?
12:22 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20689 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Make it possible to add capital letter subfields to item search fields
12:22 oleonard         kidclamp: I put Bug 20689 back to PQA but of course you can tell me that's wrong.
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 15253: Add Koha::Logger based logging for SIP2 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=03c03ed8cdb94cda4cfd661e3b04f97cb36d8dc4>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 21545: Translate 'Stock rotation slip' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc1a21ec65377c8e7b331b89b45ebcddf9a7e4c7>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 21545: Translate new ACCOUNT_PAYMENT and ACCOUNT_WRITEOFF notices to German <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b610497ffba5008f4e2541dc6cb07727ac5a63a>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 19619: Add support for SIP2 field CM ( Hold Pickup Date ) to Koha <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f88923c05a303fc0d458055b1d27a17a775f07d1>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22175: Make stock rotation table sortable <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8bf043b94d73724244429adfae249d87ca5c8b9c>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22318: Extend Koha news feature to include other content areas <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb83128f62f258ad4bf97896b44fbf0ca65f7b35>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22318: Example implementation: OpacNavRight system preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d6e1c6ffe639c08be9876c9e6f2f3551b3a82cb0>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22532: Remove Z39.50 random <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5867683fe9aa91d9284d3554cebff9bbec2fa117>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22532: Database update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=752eba6cfeee809e74cc24bcfa4d95b14e7b9b68>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22318: (follow-up) Add new options to new table filter form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8011f226975fa4f38586d7e0f2e4ce747bdced2b>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 13795: Make database update idempotent <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c90329fbe5c65c25908001383f24009811104240>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 13795: Remove occurences of unused columns in code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc501af15082f3da329d0557b337dce944626511>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22645: Add 'ISSN' sarch option to OPAC simple search pull down <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0bb1e01a0c553c18953be9799329128700e2d42b>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22318: (QA follow-up) Correct name of atomicupdate <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1758c8bc5da3c7d54f7537c80027dae0c369d847>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 6730: Rename 'basket' filter to 'basket name' on receive page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c95e22afe13349b60d134217fce6718bfa9727f>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22175: (follow-up) Identify columns to exclude from export <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=729987f40d442fd20c331e7ceec32f2e24486a5a>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22318: DBRev 18.12.00.058 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f8bd40c1a619f530d5d8abc7e82b50b82a7d8db6>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22521: (RM follow-up) Adjust tests to use new accounttype <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc3f6a6aac993040e2cf57999bbbebeb1eb5ec9a>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 22532: DBRev 18.12.00.059 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f1459e2cea0b3ea2d14a649bda813cd9dee84ab>
12:05 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 15253: (follow-up) Fix qa complaints <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d80f9dc6b7d87bdf2e1536647a0bc8530465bd7>
11:50 oleonard         No I have weak puny muscles
11:50 ashimema_        thinking of standing oleonard?
11:50 ashimema_        lol
11:49 oleonard         Assuming he survives the gladiatorial combat with other RM candidates
11:48 kidclamp         sounds like the incoming RM has plans ;-)
11:38 ashimema_        we could even go so far as to say QAers should encourage suitable logging
11:38 ashimema_        would really help with debugging later in bugs that raise issues against them
11:37 ashimema_        like.. we assume we'll onyl get one accountline back for lots of queries.. but it would be nice to log if that assumption ever failed
11:37 ashimema_        there are some weird cases that could creep out if we logged stuff.. but I've not added logging as I can't easily justify it
11:36 ashimema_        prime examples in this accounts tree
11:36 ashimema_        exactly
11:36 ashimema_        but I never come back around and add them in their own bug
11:36 kidclamp         ah, like should it be sparate bugs or part of a bug
11:36 ashimema_        s/but/bug/
11:36 ashimema_        i.e. I keep finding places that are ripe for logging (at the right level) but I don't add the lines because it's just 'noise' for QA in the actual but
11:36 oleonard         Hi all
11:35 ashimema_        more of a.. 'can we introduce logging "along the way"' in bugs
11:35 ashimema_        I think I mis-worded that
11:34 kidclamp         is there reason not to use it some places ashimema_ ?
11:19 ashimema_        do we have any policies on when we can add debug logging via Koha::Logger..
10:43 indradg          hmm
10:41 kidclamp         but maybe there were scanned twice at return
10:40 indradg          it was checked out on 03-APR-2019 and returned on 18-APR-2019
10:40 indradg          kidclamp: thats the strange part of the business... in the patronÅ› reading history i see the check out and the return today. same from the bib recordÅ› circulation history
10:39 kidclamp         if you enable ' RecordLocalUseOnReturn ' then they record as localuse
10:38 kidclamp         if you check in a book that is not checked out you get that
10:37 indradg          that i´m not being able to understand... NULLs in borrowernumber column for four returns in statistics table
10:36 indradg          On a 18.05.11 db i just noticed something that I...
10:36 indradg          Hi
10:33 ashimema_        sure
10:33 cait             maybe we could throw a comment about it being unused right now in somewhere?
10:32 cait             can you comment on the bug and switch it back?
10:32 cait             ashimema_: i am fine with hat
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10:30 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22564 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , accounttype 'Rep' is still referred to but is never set
10:30 ashimema_        I only added the db update and UI for display in bug 22564 at marcelr's request.. I can see if the code is fixed in the future it could become useful again.. but at this point I don't want it to hold up the rest of this tree
10:29 ashimema_        I still think that's valid.. but I get the feeling from the code that that logic got broken over 14 years ago
10:28 ashimema_        I 'thought' 'Rep' was a form of writeoff that signified that the patron had chose to go and buy a new book for the library as apposed to pay the libraries fee for replacing it
10:27 ashimema_        I thought I did too.. but the more I read the more confused I'm not getting
10:27 ashimema_        haha
10:27 cait             i thought you knew :)
10:27 cait             no idea
10:27 cait             just got back
10:27 ashimema_        do you have any recollection of how 'Rep' accountypes were originally used?
10:26 ashimema_        cait still here?
10:24 cait             but lost my db actually... tired and restart_all /reset_all mistake
10:24 cait             invalid date? i will recheck
10:24 cait             josef_moravec: wonder what i had happen thre... test data
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10:14 josef_moravec    cait: When there is no dateofbirth, the age is not shown at all...
10:07 josef_moravec    cait: it makes sense, I'll try it
09:54 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22735 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Broken MARC and ISBD views
09:54 cait             ashimema_: sorry, bug 22735
09:54 * cait           waves at kidclamp
09:54 cait             josef_moravec: can't retest right now, but maybe the problematic template was a patron without birthdate
09:53 * kidclamp       waves
09:51 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 21336: Fix the API <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da8ca6c865e65bfe0d078e39324951ab1f7ed838>
09:51 huginn`          News from kohagit: Bug 21336: Add borrowers.flgAnonymized in an explicit position <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d54c95e902c9111eb812d1b48dc0bb8df824f75>
09:37 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22721 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Needs Signoff , Normalize GetMarcFromKohaField calls
09:37 josef_moravec    bug 22721
09:37 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22751 could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
09:37 josef_moravec    can somebody try to test bug 22751?:
09:20 ashimema_        sorry.. what bug?
09:17 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22753 could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
09:17 cait             bug 22753 is in 18.11 too
08:27 ashimema_        I'm working my way back around to trying that later today
08:25 ashimema_        kidclamp suggested `check out overdue, charge fines, set finesforgiven when lost, mark lost, the patron has only the lost fee, fines are forgiven. Check in, the lost fine goes away, the overdue is recreated`
08:25 severine_q       thanks cait !
08:25 ashimema_        I don't think it's that
08:25 ashimema_        ah.. no
08:24 cait             the double fines  problem
08:24 ashimema_        so what did you mean by the 'duplicate program'
08:24 cait             yes
08:23 ashimema_        I'm currently stealing it and creating a rather different approach.. (also FFOR no longer exists in master )
08:23 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22200 minor, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , Forgiving a fine (FFOR) does not update the accountline date
08:23 ashimema_        do you mean bug 22200 ?
08:23 cait             my fingers have life of their own typing
08:23 cait             problem
08:22 wahanui          i guess cait is qa manager
08:22 ashimema_        huh cait ?
08:22 ashimema_        FFOR duplicate program?
08:21 cait             maybe try templates... then oleonard wil see it ;)
08:21 cait             hm grey zone
08:17 severine_q       Silly question, but can't decide myself... I identify a mandatory field with the label not red, should I declare the bug in "Templates" or in the module I found it in ?
08:07 josef_moravec    ops, it is not vim ;)
08:07 cait             heh
08:07 josef_moravec    :wq
08:06 cait             ashimema_: is the FFOR bug a candidate for the duplicate problem?
08:06 josef_moravec    I was too aggresive on removing code ;)
08:06 josef_moravec    working on it now
08:06 cait             ok :)
08:06 josef_moravec    cait: yep, I understand and see the issue ;)
08:06 cait             just add a patron with the same surname firstname as an existing one
08:06 cait             josef_moravec: is my description ok?:
07:57 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21757 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Failed QA , Patron detail script (moremember.pl) cleanup
07:57 josef_moravec    cait: thanks for testing bug 21757, if there is a change in behaviour, it is bug, the refactored code should behave the same I believe
07:49 severine_q       hi josef_moravec :)
07:47 josef_moravec    hi severine_q
07:45 severine_q       hi cait !
07:44 cait             good mornign severine_q :)
07:42 severine_q       good mornig !
07:27 cait             thank you
07:26 cait             yep, just saw
07:26 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16284 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Borrower Previously Checked Out: Serials
07:26 josef_moravec    cait: I added follow-up to bug 16284
07:24 cait             hi josef_moravec :)
07:24 * josef_moravec  waves
07:11 cait             I'd like to have that on our test installation so I don't always have to ask for the logs
07:11 cait             I haven't foudn docs yet on how to configure that, something to do with a flag for dev installations maybe?
07:11 cait             can we get the full error to display on a package installation like in the kohadevbox?
07:05 alex_a           bonjour
06:54 ashimema_        morning
06:46 reiveune         hello