Time Nick Message 06:15 cait happy bday eythian 06:16 cait :) 06:25 josef_moravec morning #koha 06:52 cait morning josef_moravec :) 06:52 josef_moravec hi cait 06:57 marcelr hi #koha 07:03 josef_moravec hi marcelr 07:03 marcelr hi josef_moravec 07:03 marcelr i will have a look at 21336 again 07:05 josef_moravec marcelr: ah, great! 07:54 reiveune hello 07:55 cait good morning 07:56 alex_a bonjour 08:13 ashimema Ack..I left off the -r when testing the interface addition bug, sorry josef_moravec . I'll be fixing tests this morning 08:13 * ashimema feels a numpty for not realising he'd only run like 1/4 of the test suit against that one before submitting 08:22 josef_moravec bug 22607 08:22 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22607 normal, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Needs Signoff , Default value in issues.renewals should be '0' not null 08:41 marcelr josef_moravec: 21336 is in nso again 09:38 vfernandes hi #koha 10:41 ashimema oh.. marcelr.. sorry.. I'm just rebasing the whole 22008 dependant tree (and updating the tests to as there were a bunch of failures on the branch I missed due to a slip missing the '-r' on running the whole test suit) 10:41 ashimema so.. hold off there for a few minutes more if you happened to still be walking that tree 10:41 marcelr im out of it 10:42 marcelr dont go there anymore :) 10:42 ashimema sorry if I waisted some of your time.. I should have gone through and reset them to assigned 10:42 marcelr np 10:42 ashimema the set should be ready again shortly.. just re-running the suit as I said.. then there will be patches incoming 10:44 ashimema hehe.. and thanks for the PQA on 22518.. it'll be so nice to finally clean some of these things up :) 10:57 josef_moravec marcelr: bug 21336 looks good for me, signing off 10:57 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21336 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , GDPR: Handle unsubscribe requests automatically by optional (administrative) lock, anonymize and remove 10:57 marcelr thanks josef_moravec 10:58 marcelr hopefully we can have some qa soon 10:58 * ashimema sticks it in a tab to look at 10:58 josef_moravec thanks ashimema 10:59 ashimema team++ 11:01 josef_moravec karma team 11:01 wahanui team has karma of 2 11:01 josef_moravec team++ 11:03 marcelr great ashimema++ josef_moravec++ 11:03 marcelr htg now 11:08 josef_moravec by #koha 11:11 kidclamp morning 11:11 ashimema remind me anyone.. do we use HashRefInflator at all with Koha::Objects? 11:12 * ashimema see's a patturn all over the place where we build an expensive Koha::Object only to call ->unblessed on it a moment later and then never do anything with the object form again. 11:13 ashimema that's precisely the use case for HashRefInflator in DBIx::Class.. "Give me my results fast and skip making an object from them" 11:14 ashimema 'tis the above bug that got me questioning it. 11:23 eythian ashimema: I discovered HashRefInflator recently, took the average request time for expensive requests from 5s to 1.25s. 11:23 eythian I'm in the process of moving all our read processes to it. 11:31 ashimema lol.. I used it loads when writing rebus:list 11:31 ashimema it's really nice.. but I think it's another forbidden method in Koha::Object world 11:31 ashimema :( 11:32 oleonard Hi all 11:46 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22518: DBRev 18.12.00.036 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=67c99f585c560fc25c7dbd896b9cd4af50f4b11d> 11:46 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22518: (QA follow-up) Add rows updated to feedback <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd4858918f0ad2d6ee512edbf70677b1f62c0685> 11:46 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22596: use raw TT filter in items search with custom field <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb7e0f018c479024f0ceacb9f0c235b556ec2979> 11:46 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22586: IntranetReportsHomeHTML no longer renders as HTML on reports-home.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7aaa10e0922b21f1c9ed40ede0d3dfc0a63c2832> 11:46 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22518: Add database update 'just in case' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c42aa0a53490c2d234742e09336def962e01d96e> 11:46 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22518: Remove references to 'O' accounttype <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8eb0cf0f2ddf6aa741d63e9f4f38241d0c1ecf4> 11:46 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22127: Update date accessioned plugin - remove unused routine <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=68fbc962182cba2c97ac580446513ac542ee631d> 11:46 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21646: Clean up Overdrive template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d635827c541220a21190a26d28740f06e41a9cb1> 11:48 kidclamp hi oleonard 11:48 wahanui hi oleopard 11:58 oleonard Re: [Koha] HEA map broken? ...whispering darkly... Thanos! 11:59 magnuse ashimema: i think maybe ->unblessed is meant to be a temporary thing, until we are ready to use the objects everywhere? 12:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #699: SUCCESS in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/699/ 12:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #205: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/205/ 12:25 calire hi oleonard 12:25 wahanui hi oleopard 12:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #192: UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/192/ 12:35 magnuse gah! why oh why can't i save 773$t+w? (normarc) 12:49 magnuse liquorice, andreashm! 12:54 magnuse nothing useful in the logs 13:37 talljoy morning 13:40 oleonard Hi talljoy 13:40 talljoy top of the morning to ya 13:43 magnuse can someone point me to the meaning of &&= in perl? kind of hard to google. mentioned once in passing in perlop. not in the index of Programming Perl 13:54 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 13895: (follow-up) Add Modern::Perl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=94206510d7a7641e0e283738f56249c90f7d632e> 13:54 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19380: Use Koha::Item::get_transfer instead of GetTransfers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6666918dd661b0207366becefd1480257197a353> 13:54 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19380: Add transfer informations in ILS-DI GetRecords response <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1611c13e85fca43f24a75287b333ff71db2361b9> 13:54 magnuse OK, found this: if ( $x ) { $x = $y } # $x &&= $y; 13:55 magnuse but what if it is: $x &&= $y && $z 13:56 oleonard-away By Grabthar's Hammer, what a savings. 13:56 magnuse very handy 13:56 magnuse there are 5 occurrences in Koha 13:59 cait ? 13:59 ashimema huh 14:01 cait maybe if left true then set to...? 14:02 magnuse if $x is zero, nothings happens 14:02 magnuse if $x is one and either $y or $z is zero, $x gets zero 14:03 magnuse if $x is one and both $y and $z is one, $x stays one 14:03 magnuse as far as i can tell 14:04 magnuse see opac/opac-reserves.pl line 539 for an example of this in the wild 14:08 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 14:09 magnuse Hi wizzyrea 14:09 oleonard wizzyrea: Thanks for testing Bug 14576. I'm hoping that gets moving 14:09 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14576 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Allow automatic update of location on checkin 14:14 wizzyrea You are welcome :) 14:14 wizzyrea hi everyone 14:17 wizzyrea anyone got any passion projects theyd like tested? 14:17 ashimema marcelr still around? 14:18 ashimema 22600 would be nice (as the current blocker).. it's big but hopefully obvious and easy to test? 14:18 ashimema bug 22600 would be nice (as the current blocker).. it's big but hopefully obvious and easy to test wizzyrea? 14:18 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22600 blocker, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , We should add an 'interface' field to accountlines 14:19 wizzyrea i will have a look 14:21 wizzyrea did you see bug 16357 14:21 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16357 normal, P3, ---, mtj, Failed QA , Plack error logs are not time stamped 14:21 wizzyrea I'd loooove to get that signed off but 14:21 ashimema cookies :) 14:21 * cait goes vacation 14:21 wizzyrea i'm not sure how best to test that 14:21 cait bye all! 14:21 wizzyrea cait! holiday 14:21 wizzyrea ! 14:21 wizzyrea i mean, 14:21 wizzyrea i've made it work 14:22 wizzyrea but I guess we need to check that it works just fine when an instance is created 14:22 * oleonard wonders if cait got that vacation approved by kidclamp 14:23 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #700: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/700/ 14:25 wizzyrea tcohen and/or kidclamp, what do you think about bug 16357? how much more testing do you think that needs? 14:25 wizzyrea i'll sign off, I made it work but it wasn't automatic 14:26 wizzyrea also is there work to be done with those dependencies? 14:26 wizzyrea I wished for time/date stamps in that log for so long 14:29 ashimema bug 16357 14:29 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16357 normal, P3, ---, mtj, Failed QA , Plack error logs are not time stamped 14:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #193: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/193/ 14:30 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 14:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #206: FIXED in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/206/ 14:33 * magnuse wishes for timestamps too 14:33 wizzyrea the patch works! it does! 14:33 wizzyrea you just have to play by debian's rules 14:33 wizzyrea and use the instance paths instead of the standard install ones 14:34 wizzyrea and I feel quite confident that if the files are getting copied correctly *now* (they are) this patch won't change it 14:35 wizzyrea i.e. they'll still work 14:37 wizzyrea oleonard, you had a bug that was to do with overdrive and recordedbooks 14:37 wizzyrea but I can't find it 14:38 oleonard wizzyrea: kidclamp beat you to it. Bug 22432 14:38 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22432 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Star ratings plugin replacement missing from a couple pages 14:38 wizzyrea lulz bc he had the creds already >.> 14:38 * wizzyrea shakes fist 14:39 oleonard Did you get my message about it the other day? 14:39 wizzyrea no! 14:40 oleonard I wondered. I sent you some secret codes. They were probably intercepted by the Chinese government 14:40 wizzycray hi 14:40 wahanui que tal, wizzycray 14:40 magnuse star ratings are being turned into a plugin? 14:41 oleonard magnuse: Star ratings always depended on a jquery plugin. The old plugin was not maintained. 14:41 magnuse ah, so not a .kpz plugin? 14:42 wizzyrea naw 14:47 liliputech_asu kpz plugins powa. 14:48 liliputech_asu you can actually have a kpz install jquery things into opacuserjs and intranetuserjs 14:48 wizzyrea sure 14:49 liliputech_asu that's what I did for my Opac plugin, works like a charm : http://github.com/liliputech/koharecommenderengine 14:49 oleonard It occurs to me to wonder if we should move every feature which depends on a proprietary service into a plugin... Amazon covers, Syndetics, iDreamBooks... 14:50 wizzyrea this appeals to me but might be a maintenance nightmare 14:50 liliputech_asu why would it be harder than maintaining those features in Koha itself? 14:51 liliputech_asu plugins must be open-sourced as well since they use Koha code and Koha is GPL :) 14:52 liliputech_asu Agree that maintaining a plugin often relies on less people than whole koha community. 14:52 * oleonard has been hearing all about this new GPL thing lately 14:52 * wizzyrea snickers 14:52 liliputech_asu meh. 14:52 wizzyrea mostly its the peoplepower issue. 14:54 liliputech_asu huuuu... but less incursion of proprietary service into Koha Core code. less dependency to third-party service. wouldn't that be nice? 14:55 wizzyrea I've worked with the EBSCO plugin, they have enough trouble keeping it up to date and they have billions of dollars at their disposal. 14:56 liliputech_asu maybe not their priority to keep up-to date with koha? 14:57 wizzyrea there are some things where plugins make sense - overdrive, recorded books, ebsco, those things make sense 14:57 wizzyrea book cove.rs, mmm I'm not sure 15:00 wizzyrea it also makes sense to push dev of those features back onto the vendor, but I can't see them supporting their own product in that way. 15:08 liliputech_asu hum... being a vendor I'd say it's in your interest to make yourself "usable" from other platforms. See how may payment processors have a plugin designed for wordpress for example. 15:08 liliputech_asu *see how many 15:09 oleonard Tell it to EBSCO I guess 15:10 liliputech_asu many third-party service vendors also do it in a different way, while studying products for recommendations, I've stumbled into Syndethics, and they don't offer a plugin. they ask you to add something in your JS (like Matomo) which queries their website for further executable code. 15:11 wizzyrea yep I've worked for Koha vendors. 15:11 wizzyrea and I've implemented or helped to implement almost every janky 3rd party integration that exists. 15:11 wizzyrea it's a nightmare. 15:13 liliputech_asu lulz 15:18 liliputech_asu one thing is definitely missing though: plugins marketplace / database / store / whatever you call it... 15:19 liliputech_asu couldn't find a place where I could list them all... 15:20 wizzyrea yep it's a think we all want but can't agree on how best to go about it 15:20 wizzyrea I want one like the wordpress plugin directory 15:20 wizzyrea but using git 15:20 wizzyrea instead of svn 15:20 wizzyrea there are other ideas. 15:24 liliputech_asu What about hosting them on Mana? it's already a central community sharing platform... 15:24 liliputech_asu + it's already interfaced with Koha (starts 19.05) 15:24 wizzyrea maybe. 15:25 oleonard plugins require a lot more vetting than reports 15:25 kidclamp and they need to be translatable 15:25 liliputech_asu + there's already a comment system which means people can rate plugins, it's already designed. 15:26 liliputech_asu yup, plugins translation is an issue, I got the question for my own work but didn't had the time to look after this yet 15:27 wizzyrea ashimema about? 15:28 liliputech_asu I guess you could embed some .mo/.po within the kpz file. don't know how you can call them though. 15:32 wizzyrea @later tell ashimema I was looking at your bug 22600, had some questions re: testing (the unit tests pass you'll be happy to know) 15:32 huginn` wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 15:41 ashimema hi wizzyrea 15:41 * ashimema is still here.. always lurking 15:41 ashimema well.. not always always ;) 15:42 ashimema I didn't write a test plan did I.. 15:42 ashimema :doh: 15:43 ashimema If we want a good thorough testing there's likely to be a fair amount of excersize 15:43 ashimema we touch literally everything that would work with accountlines 15:43 ashimema want me to try and work out a step-by-step plan ? 15:47 ashimema it's going to involve things like marking items as lost (with both values for the processing fee options.. to check 'chargelostitem'), returning a lost item (with and without already having made payment to check _FixAccountForLostAndReturned), checkout items with issuing charges (checking AddIssuingCharge), doing some offline transactions and uploading them (checking 'ProcessOfflinePayments').. testing Overdues (again with and without partial 15:47 ashimema payments and open/closed days combinations to catch the 'credit creation' route).. Making reserverse (again with the sysprefs set for charging for that).. from both OPAC and Staff side to check the interface gets set correctly.. 15:47 ashimema Doing some SIP translactions (checking that interface gets set to SIP for those) 15:48 ashimema manual invoices, manual credits 15:48 ashimema enrolement fees 15:48 ashimema my-oh-my! 15:48 ashimema there's allot there :'( 15:48 ashimema I can't easily split it down into smaller chunks :( 15:49 * ashimema thinks he broke wizzyrea.. 15:49 * ashimema hopes not 15:49 wizzyrea oh 15:49 wizzyrea no no 15:49 wizzyrea I had my head in a patch sorry 15:50 ashimema no worries.. 15:50 wizzyrea that is about the scope of stuff I thought might be in that 15:50 wizzyrea which is why I asked lol 15:50 wizzyrea because that will take Some Time. 15:50 wizzyrea hehe 15:52 ashimema it is indeed a bit big and scary 15:52 ashimema my hope is that the tests cover the vast majority.. 15:52 * ashimema has been working hard the last few months to attempt to get to that level of coverage here.. but bets he hasn't reached it 15:53 kidclamp I know it is coincidence, but when your script fails to compile because of line 666 still a bit scary 15:53 ashimema there's allot of code pathss :( 15:53 kidclamp :-D 15:53 wizzyrea well, the devil you know. 15:53 wizzyrea or something. 15:53 wahanui something is broken 15:53 corilynn can someone point me to the dev meeting notes from wednesday? I swear I searched... 15:54 ashimema I reckon it probably needs a team effort from some people overly familiar with accounts... 15:54 ashimema haha.. 15:54 oleonard corilynn: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_27_March_2019 15:54 ashimema queue tcohen, kyle and josef :) 15:54 corilynn thank you! 15:54 ashimema no offence intended 15:54 ashimema http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/ corilynn 15:55 ashimema pick from the one's at the top.. 15:55 corilynn thx, thx, ashimema 15:55 ashimema I personally like to read the whole log.. but you may prefer the summary version 15:56 corilynn yeah, tried to make it this time.. but family stuff... I want to *somehow* get 18823 some lovin' 15:59 wizzyrea what it needs QA or something? 15:59 wizzyrea or retesting? or 16:00 corilynn it needs QA 16:00 wizzyrea quite a lot in that state atm 16:00 corilynn I've signed off on it, my company has sponsered it 16:01 corilynn I used it quite a lot 16:02 corilynn I *know* there's a lot in QA, I just want to *bump* OR... at least know if there's something that's going to keep it from going before it's too late to make the next cycle 16:02 * ashimema is running low on QA tuits at the moment... :( 16:03 corilynn let me know what kind of tuits I can help with? 16:03 oleonard Bug 18823 16:03 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18823 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, Signed Off , Advanced editor - Rancor - add ability to edit records in import batches 16:03 corilynn unfortunately, my tuits currently come in sign-offs 16:03 corilynn which only make more work, but I've done a lot of "not sign-offs" too 16:03 ashimema hehe 16:04 oleonard Sign-offs are always good corilynn. Just pretend the QA team doesn't have feelings! 16:04 ashimema those queus gotta keep growing.. we wouldn't want kidclamp bored now would we ;) 16:05 corilynn I try and stick to my perview, the cataloging interface 16:05 corilynn although, I'm *seriously* deep into authorities now too 16:05 ashimema this cycle felt a little slow to start with... but it's certainly going full throttle at the moment 16:06 cait oleonard: vacation = can spend more time lke I please... :D 16:06 * ashimema hands corilynn the swear tin just in case.. that's usualy where I end up if I'm *seriously* deep in authorities ;) 16:07 corilynn right? and music authorities a hundred times so 16:07 cait oleonard: that might be on some Koha things 16:07 oleonard :D 16:07 ashimema yikes.. oh yes 16:07 eythian ashimema: Re: HashRefInflator, I think if you're doing the full ORM thing then you can't use it, however if you're querying for a lot of data then it's almost certainly worth using it to just fetch the data then process. Otherwise it'll cost you real tim. 16:07 ashimema been there, 16:07 eythian *time. Dunno about tim. 16:08 * ashimema is getting dangeriously close to say.. Would anyone mind if I split accountlines down the middle and created two tables instead of one.. one for credits one for debits? 16:08 ashimema the two things need distinctly different information 16:08 eythian that code was (probably still is) a bit nightmarish. 16:09 * ashimema wants database polymorphism 16:09 * eythian wants a beer. 16:09 * eythian is more likely to succeed. 16:09 cait lol 16:10 * ashimema goes to get tea.. 16:10 * ashimema thinks about swapping tea for beer.. 16:11 eythian ashimema: this is sometimes brewed somewhere over your way: https://www.ratebeer.com/beer/yeastie-boys-gunnamatta/173556/ 16:12 eythian The first review it shows me says "An outstanding way to drink tea", so... 16:13 ashimema oh wow 16:13 eythian (it's also pretty nice.) 16:13 * eythian -> brewery 16:21 * ashimema wonders how eythian will be celebrating this evening 16:22 ashimema happy birthday chap 19:02 oleonard Bye all. Happy weekend 19:11 wizzyrea hi 19:11 wahanui bidet, wizzyrea 19:35 wizzyrea hi aleisha 19:35 wizzyrea er alexbuckley 19:35 wizzyrea and aleisha :P 19:37 alexbuckley hey wizzyrea :) 19:37 wizzyrea how doin 19:39 alexbuckley pretty good thanks 9 days to go, we've got a team lunch on friday before I go, and i fly to Auckland on sun :) How are you going? 19:39 wizzyrea work is lovely :) 19:39 wizzyrea the rest... eh 19:40 wizzyrea enormous trip how exciting 19:41 alexbuckley yeah :) How is spud finding American schools? 19:41 wizzyrea he likes the lunches, and it's running 2nd favourite school behind Lyall Bay 19:42 wizzyrea (LB probs always be a fav) 19:42 wizzyrea (it was my fav) 19:42 wizzyrea his last nz school was :( :( :( 19:42 wizzyrea kids not nice. 19:43 wizzyrea he seems to be doing alright 19:43 alexbuckley its good that his school over there is nice 19:43 alexbuckley :) 19:43 wizzyrea yep 19:43 wizzyrea oh 19:43 wizzyrea while you are here 19:44 wizzyrea you might have seen my comment on 21159? 19:44 wizzyrea there's something funny going on there 19:44 wizzyrea with the patches 19:45 wizzyrea (i know it's saturday and you're probs busy with trip prep and such) 19:47 alexbuckley ah yes, i'll look at the bug report and refresh my memory on whats happening 19:48 wizzyrea cool thanks very much I felt terrible failing it :( 19:51 alexbuckley not a problem :) 20:02 alexbuckley so it does look like a commit message problem like you say. when you say 'Hayley's seems to want us to test the 2 sysprefs?' do you mean your taking it that hayley wants you to test the 2 sysprefs in bug 14576? 20:02 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14576 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Allow automatic update of location on checkin