Time Nick Message 21:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #196: UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/196/ 21:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #183: UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/183/ 21:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #690: STILL UNSTABLE in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/690/ 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20478: Have the cronjob script advance_notices.pl send digest messages per branch. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7e27a934a1b1d968ea8d00116c0bf17bb196ec1> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21998: Add pattern parameter in Koha::Token <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b794643bb075c0aa5de81f2481ae1df56f674309> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21998: Throw exception on bad pattern <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee73d577ed564d98e77cf25fcdadcbc594f7217c> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22032: Improve local cover image tab on detail page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=52bceacd82cdf4e45b2e76bb7353bb84af1ee1b3> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22008: Add tests for new constraints <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e067c83e427e7d76227c11fd8d84780dca2cefb> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22008: Add missing constraints <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f3dd675b7f20bb011c2fb0659526c6fdf9195e4> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21998: Silent tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9fa69ca64e78cc9ea540e3fed1e9ffb1b3488fe> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22008: Fixes to make unit tests pass <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee1f262f1466e96e9676b3650fe2300b55565d53> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20478: (QA follow-up) Make test more standard <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2851d66254fe9dbb0edb2b8991e90de665063fd1> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18589: Show ILLs as part of patron profile <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=daac852c04eb0e9c866aef970f8a79e6db9261d3> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18589: (follow-up) Remove redundant-ness <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=17e72b2b1c55d79a5c7cc3cbaa278552ab936c1c> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18589: (follow-up) Fix QA tool failures <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=352d46464ce1dac3d0c8b92f0c43ef583684fc42> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18589: (follow-up) Add borrowernumber test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8378c74c90009df0476f1832d67b859075654bee> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18589: (follow-up) Fix merge problem <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=58a07a2e6b18a9135b0f6dcf0b6c01616e768edb> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18589: (QA follow-up) Rename page to "ILL requests history" for consistancy <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aab6564c8c74a94ebedf4fe7590f825cece9bb6d> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18589: (QA follow-up) Move template to bootstrap grid <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e95733da3c46bb9160bd1105a648d693ac4a7acf> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18589: (QA follow-up) Remove dateFormat from javascript on ill requests pages. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=441c64d63072d9cd6fd0a97d987dc99a9e0a73ab> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20478: Fix qa complaints <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce49552e6d46e098385a9d70f848793b7218f194> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22008: DBRev 18.12.00.031 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f8c20ac4c91f22017093a2d8ed0dbb8b0a3738bc> 20:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22032: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b879e68326fcebc549d8c5688973b824c31fd761> 19:04 shaffendi bye all 18:59 oleonard Bye all 18:08 shaffendi like rewrite all the default files 18:08 shaffendi have* 18:08 shaffendi do koha a way to reinstall on the current koha? 18:03 corilynn Patron Incident Tracking - Advanced 18:03 oleonard System for Patron Incident Tracking 18:02 corilynn true story, talljoy 18:02 talljoy better may have been PITA Patron Incident tracking application 18:01 talljoy cuz these patrons are the .... 18:01 * oleonard wonders why anyone would name their product PITS 18:00 oleonard http://www.quipugroup.com/PITS-patron-incident-tracking-system.php, http://incident-tracker.com/ 17:59 corilynn oleonard, do you know what the software *is*? 17:59 shaffendi is there any issue? 17:59 shaffendi ya im using mariadb 17:59 oleonard corilynn: No idea 17:58 corilynn oleonard, that's a whole different "incident" isn't it?? Yeah, I don't know about those... are they expensive? What does the paid for ones get you? 17:58 tcohen shaffendi: you're using MariaDB 17:57 shaffendi T_T 17:57 shaffendi auwww...i guess i need to look at db again.. 17:55 talljoy wrong structure, missing data in the tables that is needed. 17:54 talljoy i don't know the workflow in labels and templates. But if you are performing the actions correctly and still not able to add or edit, than i would suspect a problem in the database tables themselves. 17:54 shaffendi hurm..weird.. 17:54 shaffendi but i cant edit 17:54 shaffendi i think i can delete 17:54 talljoy no. the permissions in koha are granular and relate to functions in koha, not what you can or can't do in db 17:54 shaffendi eh 17:54 shaffendi cant delete 17:53 shaffendi i cant add 17:53 shaffendi both talljoy 17:53 shaffendi is there any global setting that prevent certain user to write/update? 17:53 talljoy unable to create labels or templates? 17:53 shaffendi the problem only at cataloging part 17:52 talljoy that sounds correct. 17:52 shaffendi am i right? 17:52 shaffendi i think if permission issues i cant do that at all 17:52 shaffendi i can add/delete/edit fund budget 17:52 shaffendi same as acquisition 17:51 talljoy i'm not sure how the db admin privileges relate to the koha install though. 17:51 shaffendi but at circulation when write off or creating manual invoice etc just working fine 17:51 shaffendi thats what i suspect at first 17:51 shaffendi talljoy 17:51 talljoy sounds like a permissions issue at the db level 17:50 shaffendi ok... 17:50 oleonard Sorry shaffendi I don't know how to help you with that. Perhaps someone else here might 17:49 shaffendi can u help.. 17:49 shaffendi when i check that mysql user koha created is already there 17:48 shaffendi Can't find any matching row in the user table 17:46 shaffendi Removing Koha instance kplh ERROR 1133 (28000) at line 1: 17:46 shaffendi it give me this erroe 17:44 shaffendi when i koha-remove instancename 17:44 shaffendi fyi im using koha ver 18.05.10 on debian 9 17:44 shaffendi what i did wrong..i try to reinstall koha on development 17:43 shaffendi the same db i export and put it in development it working fine 17:43 shaffendi for example i edit 1 label template, when i save, it didnt save 17:42 shaffendi my problem is on production server, im not sure which module involve but when i try to create label, it fail 17:41 shaffendi 1 production and 1 development 17:41 shaffendi i have 2 koha server 17:40 shaffendi yes i do... 17:40 oleonard Yes, do you have a question about Koha shaffendi? 17:39 shaffendi lol 17:39 shaffendi anyone here? 17:39 shaffendi hello 17:36 oleonard Oh, sorry I'm talking about incidents with patrons... bad behavior, that kind of thing. 17:35 corilynn but I haven't personally used it 17:35 corilynn my (way back) background is in security. I've heard good things about FIDO (from Netflix) 17:29 oleonard corilynn: Are there good open source ones? I'm curious if you know one you'd recommend. Not for us but another library was asking 17:27 corilynn oleonard, there are so many good free ones tho... 16:22 oleonard Software I didn't know libraries paid for: Incident tracking. We should make one of those. 16:07 reiveune bye 16:06 tcohen ashimema: I'm so surprised 14:58 clrh ok oleonard thanks 14:20 ashimema hehe.. AddReturn is never called with $exemptfine accross the entire codebase! 14:19 * oleonard has no idea 14:18 ashimema wonder if we aught to really be doing that for 'forgivals' too 14:18 ashimema both 'Pay' and 'Writeoff' are more akin to the second way of doing it.. creating a second accountline for the 'credit' 14:17 ashimema the auto-forgive just changes the accounttype to 'FFOR' of the original accountlines (and updates the amountoutstanding to 0).. the manual one adds a new accountline with an amount and an accounttype of 'FOR' 14:17 oleonard It's too bad we don't have a very opinionated librarian here because I know there's a lot of them out there 14:16 ashimema also.. interestingly.. the way they record is entirely different too :( 14:16 ashimema thanks :) 14:14 oleonard Yes 14:14 ashimema perhaps.. but I imagine in both cases they really want to relate to what's been forgiven/written-off.. so the existing 'Forgive random amount and don't associate it with anything' is a bit wierd 14:13 oleonard Yeah... I'm guessing somebody might want to differentiate between writeoff and forgive? 14:11 ashimema I suppose in my head it's a more reluctant forgive 14:11 ashimema and 'This things gonna cost us more than it's worth to pursue' 14:11 ashimema Writeoff in accounting can mean one of two things.. either 'this things so old it's worthless to us' (in a ledger) 14:10 ashimema kinda makes sense 14:10 ashimema haha 14:10 ashimema looks like that's it 14:10 oleonard Since I don't actually know what the correct use of "Write off" is I would be more comfortable having a "forgive" option 14:09 ashimema "WhenLostForgiveFine" triggers it 14:08 ashimema I've not traced it back to source yet 14:08 ashimema looking at the code, the automated forgive' stuff looks like it's tied to user types or something 14:08 ashimema so.. do you think 'forgiven' should be a further option alongside 'Pay' and 'Writeoff' buttons rather than a 'Manual credit' 14:08 oleonard Is "automated forgiveness" related to dropbox mode or something? 14:07 oleonard yeah 14:07 ashimema type uses 14:07 * ashimema thinks perhaps there is.. you might want to 'writeoff' feels like "I've given up ever getting this" whereas 'forgive' feels like "I'm being nice today and letting you off.. you were only a day late anyway" 14:06 ashimema any reason you'd want both options in the UI owen 14:06 ashimema ffor is created for 'automated forgiveness' for exempt users 14:05 ashimema (and also ffor in the background - the extra 'f' is not a typo there) 14:05 ashimema but for some reason there's also 'forgiven' exposed 14:04 ashimema indeed 14:04 oleonard That's what we use "writeoff" for 14:04 ashimema so it's a doesn't get associated with anything that way 14:04 ashimema aha.. it's in the 'Manual credit types'.. i see 14:03 ashimema silly question.. is there anywhere in the UI where you can 'forgive' a charge? 14:02 oleonard ...and the second result for a search for "MARC 952" is a Koha wiki like :D 14:02 oleonard OCLC says "9xx fields are not part of the standard MARC 21 format" 14:01 oleonard 952$b isn't standard if I recall correctly. Isn't all of 952 for custom use? 13:59 clrh Ithink I am not looking in the good place 13:59 clrh marc21 question.... in mappings.yaml I got 952$b in "holding library" but Idon't see it in the norm ? https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd9xx.html 13:54 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20654 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Omnibus: Update two-column templates to use Bootstrap grid 13:54 oleonard ...and Bug 20654 is getting really close 13:52 * oleonard got to close an omnibus bug! (19980) 13:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #195: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/195/ 13:44 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 13:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #182: FIXED in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/182/ 13:42 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 13:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #689: STILL UNSTABLE in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/689/ 13:30 clrh don't worry oleonard :) 13:29 oleonard (and sorry!) 13:29 oleonard Hi clrh! 13:29 clrh hi everyone 13:29 clrh lol oleonard - I said to me, what, someone propose something about ES7 ? \o/ ^^ 13:28 * kidclamp slows claps @ oleonard 13:19 oleonard ...see, because "fix" like, cheating... It's topical! 13:13 oleonard If we don't fix the tests how will my kids get into college?! <rim-shot> 13:12 magnuse nooo, don't fix the tests! 13:08 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22330: Fix tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c194d0e1478b494a1b60416891e589f2ae318e78> 13:07 tcohen LOL 12:55 kidclamp that oughta cause confusion 12:55 kidclamp s/>/</g 12:55 oleonard kidclamp: Don't forget to sprinkle in some <font> tags, I LOVE taking those out 12:54 kidclamp Acquisitions? never worked right, just pull that out 12:54 * kidclamp starts hardcoding variables and inserting self altering code 12:53 kidclamp gimme a few hours guys, I'll put some bugs in, I won't let you get bored 12:51 tcohen buen dÃa! 12:50 magnuse \o/ 12:50 * kidclamp waves 12:28 magnuse and the weather 12:28 magnuse ah, yes there is that 12:26 oleonard I'm guessing food and drink 12:26 magnuse who knows what we will talk about there, when all the problems are solved? 12:25 * magnuse is finally registered for kohacon19 11:59 calire guess I an go home then 11:59 calire *tumbleweed* 11:59 oleonard As you can see calire there's not much to talk about since all the bugs are fixed now. 11:49 calire nice one 11:49 calire sweet 11:49 oleonard We fixed pretty much all the bugs while you were gone, so just kick back or whatever 11:48 calire :D 11:47 oleonard Welcome back calire 11:47 wahanui hi oleopard 11:47 calire hi oleonard 11:47 oleonard Hi all 10:28 vfernandes hi #koha 09:40 paxed cait: so can't rely on HTML (eg. by grabbing values from the editor input fields) 09:39 paxed cait: it's just a bit strange that the same plugins can be used for "normal" marc fields and the item fields, when the page is completely different. 09:38 paxed cait: already doing it 09:27 cait we have the one for callnumbers that pulls from the field in the record 09:27 cait paxed: can't you program the access into the plugin? 09:16 paxed i just love how the items-specific (952) fields can have value_builder plugins... but have no access to the marc fields. 09:15 paxed argh 07:54 alex_a bonjour 07:46 huginn` ashimema: The operation succeeded. 07:46 ashimema @later tell Joubu you didn't fancy a quick look at my followup (and comment) on bug 20128 did you? 07:44 wahanui hi, reiveune 07:44 reiveune hello 07:22 marcelr hi josef_moravec 07:15 josef_moravec morning #koha 06:59 cait marcelr++ 06:42 cait qa queue fulllll 06:42 cait back from conference, super tired 06:42 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 06:42 cait @later tell wizzyrea i think it's related to only one cookie with the same name per domain (session cookie in this case) - has always worked like that 06:37 marcelr hi cait 06:37 cait hi marcelr 06:36 marcelr hi #koha 06:36 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 06:36 cait @later tell wizzyrea sessions are only separate if you have different URLs, if you them only separated by port they are shared