Time  Nick           Message
23:51 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #224: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/224/
23:45 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #227: SUCCESS in 19 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/227/
23:29 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #223: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/223/
23:11 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #223: FIXED in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/223/
23:11 koha-jenkins   Yippee, build fixed!
23:05 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #226: SUCCESS in 19 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/226/
22:07 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D8 build #184: UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/184/
21:59 kidclamp       Oops
21:58 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_U18 build #167: UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/167/
21:45 ashimema       😉
21:44 ashimema       Is that status right kidclamp ?
21:44 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D9 build #675: UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/675/
21:44 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15774 new feature, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed by Module Maintainer , Additional fields for baskets
21:44 ashimema       Bug 15774
21:32 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D8 build #183: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/183/
21:32 koha-jenkins   Yippee, build fixed!
21:29 cait           :)
21:28 ashimema       Will stack those tomorrow..
21:28 ashimema       Bed time me thinks..
21:28 ashimema       Hadn't realised that one was also missing a SO..
21:28 ashimema       I thought it was the removal on accountno bug I just commented on.. not the manual invoice one..
21:28 cait           heh
21:28 * ashimema     needs to not contact on bugs from a phone..
21:27 cait           right on time jenkins
21:27 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_U18 build #166: FIXED in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/166/
21:27 koha-jenkins   Yippee, build fixed!
21:26 cait           night kidclamp :)
21:26 kidclamp       night all!
21:25 ashimema       Hugs for cait
21:24 cait           just glad i am not asleep already :)
21:24 cait           hay fever and life make me pretty tired right now
21:24 cait           i probably would get confused too
21:24 * ashimema     hopes Tomas or Cait gets a chance to QA the accountno bug.. seems Josef and I confused each other there.. would be nice to get a final stamp from a their party
21:24 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11844 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Patch doesn't apply , Additional fields for order lines
21:24 kidclamp       bug 11844
21:23 kidclamp       yes, me too
21:23 cait           ... so... where is next for additional fields? :)
21:23 cait           happy about the additional fields to basket one
21:23 cait           true... have to keep him on his toes
21:23 ashimema       Cheeky bugger
21:22 ashimema       Lol
21:22 kidclamp       and ashimema gets bored easily
21:22 kidclamp       trying to keep up
21:21 cait           kidclamp++ busy :)
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20535: ModZebra called with $record with items stripped <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ebf1a26dae62651d1749a2df2e54ee6d1af148a>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20639: Add ILLOpacbackends syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef6ad443a872c207654721d1e9edee3a6eb88087>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20639: (follow-up) Fix population of backends <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d3136c7e893011bd7cdfd0b6415d20929b6a66b>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 15774: Fix and unify additional_fields in C4::Serials <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee5b5175d9dafa906432835d018081ed62fbab05>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 15774: Do not fetch additional fields from GetSubscription <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a109482865838f1594e2e84f762e3e9c95a22db>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 15774: Remove unecessary returned value for ->delete <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe8bc587f6f78600b7aecc0b7efd75306e9a2e12>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 15774: Add permission for managing additional fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9cfcd21f24c176cecb743084ee22243aeb44848d>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22031: Add SQL::Abstract like syntax to haspermission <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8be1966f3855d6950021018254819b04a5287c3>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22246: Fix indexing of large fields with Elasticsearch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd68e2f75b2bd0cae7935715f4aa03342809cb9f>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20639: (QA follow-up) Rephrase system preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=916a27686a4e76b0a8b6982dbbbf4ae9eee4267e>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22303: Correct bottom in virtualshelves/addbybiblionumber.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=255af719e65956d84d62ea52fea12619bb851f70>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22275: (bug 15836 follow-up) Fix class_sources.class_split_rule FK creation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=29bc2b583264a62c29a0f39dd79a5b3a64721ae6>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 15774: (follow-up) fix rebase issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1966c6be2e21613c5e1efb977dc946f0f1c21e20>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 15774: (QA follow-up) Fix use statemenets <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa243015988028cfba82eaeef35a7ec53a000586>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 15774: (QA follow-up) Remove asset of datables.css, and corresponding plugins <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0499a3bf2b8aad543a6d0e7b87cbee75cd14f166>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22416: (bug 22140 follow-up) Remove warnings in Search.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb7b2907c55d896a7c5b8bccf31daeae8bc5720b>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22419: Records listed twice when select/unselect all from the cart <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0e10d97223ae2945f6ac64b7d86f4ac2fea9e03>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 16251: Fix value of material select for Rancor 008 widget <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=926d7c4ba11ad6cd768c884ec4b2dc71d864b64c>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 15774: DBRev 18.12.00.022 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eeaf59a31ff33ec505fe86a3ef7278aed1733e25>
21:20 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20639: DBRev 18.12.00.023 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f2685f7d4965d6aa4a25be81aebf91b1ed01b33>
21:12 wizzyrea       will do :D
21:12 kathryn        hi to soren from me :)
21:12 wizzyrea       bbiab
21:12 wizzyrea       <3
21:12 wizzyrea       "it's rangi, he just is."
21:11 wizzyrea       boy ain't that the truth
21:11 wizzyrea       and now I have to run away to fetch my sproggen from school
21:11 kathryn        he just is
21:11 rangi          hehe
21:11 wizzyrea       you never come or go so I don't ever say hi lol
21:11 wizzyrea       hi rangi!
21:10 rangi          hi wizzyrea
21:05 kathryn        hi hi wizzyrea :)
21:04 wizzyrea       hi kathryn
20:07 * andreashm    waves
19:59 oleonard       Bye all
18:53 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D8 build #182: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/182/
18:51 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_U18 build #165: STILL UNSTABLE in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/165/
18:46 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D9 build #674: FIXED in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/674/
18:46 koha-jenkins   Yippee, build fixed!
18:18 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22466: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c7ef8e6b2db5830745759ad15fe9d6379f6f62b2>
18:18 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22466: Do not ask for TT methods to be filtered <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=158b3c3a4cfc8a97cc98a3473ca70395fdb398e1>
18:18 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22466: Replace existing occurrences <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ff997eda7582dbb68d599ab1436b162dd1559da>
18:13 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D8 build #181: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/181/
18:11 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_U18 build #164: STILL UNSTABLE in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/164/
18:05 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D9 build #673: STILL UNSTABLE in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/673/
17:39 cait           bye all bbl
17:38 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (QA follow-up) Fix number of tests and correct typos <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9790c6fdec8d3e574c561bc0ee0945282a74669>
17:38 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (QA follow-up) Set daily charge to 0 for item type not being used for... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dde914e1f14875aaee15ee6bbfe03739c6859130>
17:38 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (QA follow-up) Make unit tests reliable and get rid of perl warnings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=62a4969057f98728a466c0f83c3bf011ddec4835>
17:38 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: Move calculation to Koha::Fees <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=84647ff0060a896a29e033b785a033decd7deea2>
17:37 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (QA follow-up): Fix up Koha::Fees <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb179d0ec0105fe8801c88ce0fe5c3bf7c2a2d8e>
17:37 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (QA follow-up): Fix up unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b4bcb315639ae1852329eba31609c75fd3e3b92>
17:37 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (QA follow-up) Move Fees to Charges:: <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8abb7edc98f6d7442984a5a7d1d2991e4abbb7f9>
17:37 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (QA follow-up) Test for distinct accountlines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6fe5466e5af99975910a382642c4b1c5c3b55c6a>
17:37 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (QA follow-up) Make DB Update idempotent <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=04ac65ba199cab432b19e3cf783a8b0be530e929>
17:37 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (follow-up) Improve test coverage <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a68926d9cb1b485ae302a8c72f7e637fc9310fe0>
17:37 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (follow-up) Add hourly support <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f5380b401428e8e81667aff278822c7667fcc4c7>
17:37 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (QA follow-up) Fix TestBuilder <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=45595334e64f8996cfcd52673ca0ae68a4815308>
17:37 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (QA follow-up) Fix some test failures <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b75849412d8e3465ca5e734869c74d5aa3241c1>
17:37 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (QA follow-up) POD fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e2db4c2935b959a6534aab65e2de51239a55942>
17:37 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (QA follow-up) The default rule already has renewalsallowed=0 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6be54ad1206491fc9c449b03a8249f8a75c14713>
17:37 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (follow-up) Prevent double charging on renewal <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2802f20e386e6e51341a1ef77b1225f858b0d1c6>
17:37 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (QA follow-up) Warn patron of daily and hourly renewal fees <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b86e9659d5b1446fc5658f1f80bd5a21f2017a5>
17:37 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (QA follow-up) Rebase error corrections <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d71d9507202ff667776bf9cb6de0bf2603ad0dd>
17:37 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: (QA follow-up) Add on_editing to $Price filter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed62cb3ecfd714049b15d0728fab29b3a8540e3c>
17:37 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20912: DBRev 18.12.00.021 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cfe4d0e29546ccf7566ad326be7db76f0e0b4171>
17:30 reiveune       bye
17:21 wizzyrea       alright, i'm heading away for a while
17:21 wizzyrea       i mean bad but good
17:21 wizzyrea       oh good
17:21 wizzyrea       maybe I didn't do something
17:21 oleonard       yes
17:20 wizzyrea       does it do the same for you?
17:18 oleonard       Haha that screenshot is definitely problematic!
17:15 oleonard       Thanks wizzyrea I'll take another look
17:14 wizzyrea       no actually it's that sidebar that's gone wrong anyway it's not right sorry :(
17:13 wizzyrea       actually, it's funny even without the message
17:12 wizzyrea       the z indexes seem funny
17:12 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21943 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Clean up holds template
17:12 wizzyrea       bug 21943
17:12 wizzyrea       oleonard, on 21943 with a little alert such as "pick up branch is different to users home branch" the phone size doesn't seem to go properly
17:06 wizzyrea       oleonard, yes that label would be better I reckon
16:47 AndrewIsh      No problemo - I've been caught by that too many times to mention
16:46 oleonard       Oh of course, sorry for the noice AndrewIsh
16:46 AndrewIsh      oleonard:  Thanks for the feedback btw :)
16:46 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7088 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Failed QA , Cannot renew items on hold even with override
16:46 AndrewIsh      oleonard:  Re: Bug 7088 - the date picker should be hidden initially, you need to rebuild your CSS
16:25 wizzyrea       my computer is being very extremely cranky and I'm trying to find out why
16:24 wizzyrea       cait I'll need to have a look :)
16:18 cait           wizzyrea: what do you think?
16:18 cait           to easily find out what was not received yet of a basket
16:17 cait           a column would make it nicely sortable... i like that
16:17 cait           date received (sorry, I really can't type today)
16:17 oleonard       Okay cool. I depend on actual acquisitions users for these things!
16:17 cait           or the date receives
16:17 cait           no
16:17 cait           maybe received yes/now
16:16 cait           also with records now not necessarily having items it gets quite difficult with numbers :)
16:16 cait           I think having it at the beginning of the line makes sense to me, i'd move the column maybe - we could maybe get away using an icon?
16:16 cait           so it's basically a yes or no thing
16:16 tuxayo         eythian: « tsk: 1. Alternative form of tsk.» hum, indeed I don't get it
16:16 cait           if it is partial, there is a second line
16:15 cait           oleonard: I think a number doesn't make sense
16:15 oleonard       https://screenshots.firefox.com/1IoNzG0P0vR2uEuK/kohadev-staff.mylocalkoha.org
16:15 oleonard       "cait: I probably asked this before: Would it make sense to have "received" in its own column?"
16:14 eythian        oh wahanui doesn't know that one any more :(
16:14 oleonard       cait: I commented above... In fact two of those 50 branches were versions of that
16:14 eythian        hi magnuse
16:14 eythian        what are those Danes doing to their language.
16:14 eythian        In Danish, however, tsk: 1. Alternative form of tsk.
16:14 cait           oleonard: did you see the bug about rcvd I cc'd you on? I think that would make a great 51st branch :)
16:14 * tuxayo       laughs and is amazed by the fact that it's in Wiktionary
16:13 cait           oleonard: new community role.... looking out for good manners and language? :)
16:13 tuxayo         «An exclamation of disapproval, disappointment or discontent.»
16:13 tuxayo         https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tsk
15:57 * oleonard     hears cait and tsks dramatically
15:56 cait           I also agree, I waslooking for something quick and dirty
15:52 wizzyrea       there were a few times where I just wanted to look at a thing and marcedit is pretty convenient for that
15:51 wizzyrea       eythian, I completely feel that, also scripts work well with enormous files
15:48 * oleonard     hears wizzyrea and tsks dramatically
15:46 cait           probably have to cut it down then, thx!
15:46 cait           i was hoping to use some of the marcedit checks on an export file
15:46 cait           hm look slike it might be the case
15:46 * eythian      always preferred scripts. More reproducable.
15:45 wizzyrea       it would just, not to be rude, it pooped itself
15:44 wizzyrea       well I had trouble with files of over 40k records
15:43 andreashm      cait: haha
15:43 cait           ok, asking for me and it looks like this file might be too big
15:42 cait           how many records is marcedit good for? asking for a friend...
15:40 amso           ok
15:40 wizzyrea       ^ this one
15:40 wizzyrea       https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DBMS_auto_increment_fix
15:39 amso           which link sir
15:38 amso           yes im wairting
15:38 wizzyrea       or probably you have done that, and now it's telling you there's a problem
15:38 wizzyrea       then upgrade to a version that doesn't have the bug
15:38 wizzyrea       it tells you how to fix it
15:38 wizzyrea       click that link
15:38 wizzyrea       no
15:38 amso           how to reset mysql
15:38 wizzyrea       yes it's not a good one
15:38 eythian        my god that bug is horrific
15:37 wizzyrea       when mysql restarts, it resets the counters on tables
15:37 amso           but how it happen
15:37 wizzyrea       so you'll want to fix it but you don't need to to fix your checkin problem
15:37 wizzyrea       the thing about /tmp isn't related to your checkin problem
15:36 amso           Problems found Checkouts  The following ids exist in both tables issues and old_issues:  1  XML configuration file Warning 	You are missing the <tmp_path> entry in your koha-conf.xml file. Please add it, pointing to the configured temporary directory for your Koha instance. The effective temporary directory is '/tmp'.
15:36 wizzyrea       asmo
15:36 wizzyrea       https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DBMS_auto_increment_fix you need this
15:36 mifantrax      thank you for the suggestion i will look into that
15:36 amso           The item has not been checked in due to a configuration issue in your system. You must ask an administrator to take a look at the about page and search for the "data problems" section
15:35 wizzyrea       what kind of a problem asmo
15:34 amso           i have problem with koha18.05 item check in
15:33 wizzyrea       and see what if any errors pop out
15:32 wizzyrea       pick out the sql for it and any associated actions that need to be done, and run them independently
15:32 wizzyrea       supposed to insert that column
15:32 wizzyrea       find the update that was supposed to run it
15:32 wizzyrea       or you could go look through the updatedatabase.pl script
15:32 wizzyrea       and compare it to what you've got in your DB
15:31 wizzyrea       or virtualshelves I guess it is
15:31 wizzyrea       mifantrax, you could have a look at the schema for 18.11 for the table lists
15:31 wizzyrea       it is :)
15:31 ashimema       I 'think' at this point it's just the UX side that people are not in total agreement with.. hense my asking
15:30 wizzyrea       I think it could go in the way it is but I stand by how ambiguous the 2nd date picker is.
15:30 oleonard       I'd be happy to take a look ashimema
15:28 wizzyrea       that one
15:28 wizzyrea       right
15:28 ashimema       we can't rework it any more in reality.. we're already over spent
15:28 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7088 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Failed QA , Cannot renew items on hold even with override
15:28 ashimema       fancy taking a look at bug 7088 at any point oleonard.. could do with a UX eye on it as everyone involved seems to just want something different
15:27 wizzyrea       an error like that is almost always that there is a slip up in the upgrade chain somewhere
15:27 wizzyrea       hm
15:27 mifantrax      koha-upgrade-schema
15:26 mifantrax      i did rerun  koha-upgrade-schema tcmii
15:26 oleonard       That was my first thought as well wizzyrea
15:26 wizzyrea       but maybe not
15:26 wizzyrea       mifantrax, you may want to rerun the updatedatabase
15:25 mifantrax      The error shows up when i want to create a list
15:24 mifantrax      could anyone point me in the correct direction?
15:24 mifantrax      DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Unknown column 'created_on' in 'field list' at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Object.pm line 155
15:24 mifantrax      Hi all, i could benefit from some help, i am pretty new to koha administration, i updated a koha installation from 3.2 to 16.05, then 17.05 then 18.11, it was not working another way. Everything seems to be working however i have my first error that i have no clue how to deal with
15:20 oleonard       wizzyrea++
15:19 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21943 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Clean up holds template
15:19 oleonard       wizzyrea: How about Bug 21943?
15:18 andreashm      =)
15:18 oleonard       wizzyrea: How can I choose one from all my precious children?
15:17 cait           y
15:17 * cait         feels like she missed out on lots toda
15:16 wizzyrea       (and/or drink)
15:16 wizzyrea       (to give you time to think)
15:16 kidclamp       poor oleonard, he sees our bad design in developments, he has no choice but to drink
15:16 wizzyrea       (afk coffee)
15:16 wizzyrea       pet bugs
15:16 wizzyrea       oleonard, you have any pets you're keen for signoff on?
15:16 wizzyrea       hehehehehehe
15:15 oleonard       It wasn't a request, it was a description!
15:14 eythian        ah, oleopard is hungover eh.
15:13 * oleonard     whispers very quiet
15:12 wizzyrea       how are we this fine morning
15:12 wizzyrea       hallo
15:02 oleonard       Hi wizzyrea
14:55 huginn`        oleonard: The operation succeeded.
14:55 oleonard       @later tell Joubu Ping me when you get a moment please
14:47 oleonard       Maybe a regression...
14:45 oleonard       Is there a reason why the patron entry form doesn't use the French address format include files?
14:15 calire         hullo kidclamp
14:14 oleonard       Hi kidclamp
14:14 andreashm      hi kidclamp
14:14 kidclamp       morning
13:36 oleonard       Or anyone else with acquisitions opinions? ^^
13:33 oleonard       https://screenshots.firefox.com/1IoNzG0P0vR2uEuK/kohadev-staff.mylocalkoha.org
13:32 oleonard       cait: I probably asked this before: Would it make sense to have "received" in its own column?
13:31 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7133 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Received items should stand out more
13:31 oleonard       cait: I had an in-progress branch where I was working on Bug 7133, so I'll get back to it
13:26 oleonard       See ya josef_moravec
13:25 josef_moravec  I have to go, by all
13:18 josef_moravec  eythian: I didn't expect thad :D
13:17 eythian        josef_moravec: doable already: https://metacpan.org/pod/Acme::Bleach
13:16 * andreashm    wonders what discussion he just stepped into... slowly backs away.
13:16 * oleonard     wonders how many flamewars are being carried out in the history of the "Joke language list" page
13:14 josef_moravec  or this: https://esolangs.org/wiki/ook!
13:12 josef_moravec  Next step is to rewrite Koha into Whitespace language :D
13:11 magnuse        eythian: the second commit says it's just a stupid idea, not terrible?
13:10 magnuse        oleonard++
13:09 oleonard       Slow down y'all I'm *almost* done with my rewrite of Koha in ColdFusion
13:06 eythian        the bash one? No it's not, it's terrible!
13:05 magnuse        great idea, eythian!
12:48 eythian        https://github.com/nerdgeneration/www.sh time for you all to rewrite Koha ... in bash.
12:41 wahanui        hi oleopard
12:41 calire         hi oleonard
12:38 Joubu          I have to run, see you later #koha
12:38 * ashimema     gets back to fixing his failing tests
12:37 ashimema       sounds fair to me eythian
12:37 ashimema       as you say.. things can change in ways you're not expecting.. but a long cache lifetime isn't terrible if you're catching it 99% of the time
12:37 oleonard       "Keep these cookies forever, I would like to build a lifelong relationship with your brand!"
12:36 eythian        I think that never should really mean "random time between 15 and 45 minutes" or similar.
12:36 ashimema       yeah.. I kinda agree
12:36 eythian        I'm always sceptical of setting anything cache to 'never expire'
12:36 oleonard       Hi all
12:36 ashimema       that's kinda just how I expected koha to work having not looked at the code ;0
12:35 ashimema       that way the next call to 'get' (or in my case compute) would always either refetch it and set the cache or get from the cache if there had been no expire.. I also set my expire times to never
12:35 ashimema       so when I used CHI I pretty much always used 'compute' so I could combined get and set automagically and I used the 'expire($key)' call whenever I needed to on db updates for example
12:33 Joubu          eythian: thanks!
12:33 ashimema       brill, tanks
12:33 eythian        Joubu: I already made one and CCed you on it
12:32 ashimema       as I say.. I've not read our caching code recently
12:30 Joubu          ashimema: will you open a bug report? I'd like to investigate eythian's idea
12:29 rkrimme1       magnuse: the <code></code> tag seems not to be necessary, although i don't understand why
12:29 Joubu          we do that already
12:29 ashimema       if it's not then it's a bug in our caching code in my opinion
12:29 ashimema       but if they're changing sysprefs 'the normal way' then it should be trivial
12:29 ashimema       well if someone goes ahead and changes it behind the scenes on the server without going via the koha UI (or api when that becomes available) we can't easily.. which is what eythian just got at
12:28 Joubu          ours is not super easy
12:28 * ashimema     hasn't recently enough looked at our caching code.. but always found it super easy when he was developing rebus:list with CHI
12:28 Joubu          "db modifications shuold invalidate the cache key"
12:27 ashimema       invalidate a cache key when a syspref is changed?
12:27 ashimema       how do we do what>
12:27 ashimema       so the files that are cached are a little harder to invalidate
12:27 eythian        so at least it'll be eventually consistent.
12:26 Joubu          ashimema: how do you do that?
12:26 eythian        well, a direct db modification I can see not being picked up. But that can be eased by having cache values expire after a few minutes.
12:26 ashimema       I totally agree
12:26 ashimema       eythian++
12:26 ashimema       that's also a bug in my opinion
12:26 ashimema       db modifications shuold invalidate the cache key too though
12:26 eythian        caches should be as transparent as possible.
12:26 eythian        Joubu: I think it's better to have your caching be better so that it's invalidated correctly more often.
12:25 Joubu          xslt, syspref modified in DB, etc.
12:25 Joubu          eythian: maybe, we should give it a go and try it. However it seems a good habit for people to restart the cache when something is going wrong. Where are caching other things that would need a restart
12:24 rkrimme1       magnuse: yes, after reading config.pm in the Illrequests dir it looks like it's missing a <code> tag in the documentation
12:24 josef_moravec  https://superuser.com/questions/1171751/restart-systemd-service-automatically-whenever-a-directory-changes-any-file-ins
12:24 fridolin       all koha-conf.xml is in memcached
12:24 rkrimme1       fridolin: after enabling? no. Thank you, nice hint.
12:23 eythian        this way, you're doing it with no extra processes needed.
12:23 eythian        you don't need to restart anything, you're just invalidating a small part of your cache.
12:22 Joubu          sounds like a sysop task
12:22 Joubu          I think it's a great idea to automatize the restart, but sounds easier to do it outside of Koha
12:22 eythian        I'd expect that it totals up to significantly less time than admin confusion delays caused by not doing it.
12:21 eythian        which has to do all of that anyway, and more.
12:20 eythian        it's much, much cheaper than, say, accessing a database.
12:20 Joubu          I do not think it's that trivial :) When do you do that? in psgi?
12:19 eythian        running a stat() on a file should be very quick
12:18 eythian        that's a lot more plumbing for very little gain I'd expect.
12:18 Joubu          better would be to use inotify
12:17 eythian        which is super cheap as it'll be in OS disk cache.
12:17 eythian        it would just check the inode
12:17 eythian        (also, it wouldn't have to.)
12:17 eythian        Joubu: why?
12:17 Joubu          I do not think Koha should access the file to know if it has been modified (which should be needed for each request)
12:15 ashimema       thanks.. didn't think you'd have much OSS tuits, but a bug report with the idea would be awesome.. i'll try and attack it as soon as I get a moment.. it's a great idea
12:14 eythian        there is pretty much no chance I'll be able to do anything about it myself, can make you a bug though :)
12:13 * ashimema     is right in the middle of something himself
12:13 ashimema       fancy adding a bug for it and if you don't have time to do anything on it adding me to the cc list or as assignee eythian?
12:12 ashimema       nice idea
12:12 * eythian      thinks that a cached koha-conf should be keyed with the modification time of the actual file, so that if it is altered, the cache is automatically invalidated.
12:04 magnuse        and yeah, i think you have to, for changes to koha-conf.xml to be picked up
12:03 magnuse        can't hurt :-)
11:59 fridolin       rkrimme1: did you flush memcached ?
11:57 magnuse        at least that is what AndrewIsh told me a while back. but i did not get around to investigate further
11:56 magnuse        rkrimme1: i *think* it should be <branch><code></code></branch>
11:29 * andreashm    waves
11:26 rkrimme1       Any ideass?
11:26 rkrimme1       Hi, I followed this documentation to get ILL working https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ILL_backends. I configured the koha-conf.xml regarding to the documentation (also adding a <branch></branch> tag but koha insists that there is no branch entry present.
09:32 cait           the difficult part was remembering the right password
09:32 tuxayo         (how to use quotes)
09:31 tuxayo         oh you had it cait , thanks, I was searching in the IRC logs ^^"
09:24 gveranis       ;)
09:24 cait           gveranis++
09:23 cait           ah.... doesn't hurt
09:23 ashimema       how come we have huggin` and huggin btw?
09:23 josef_moravec  O:-)
09:23 cait           sorry, it got into my head a little :)
09:23 ashimema       ok.. it's in there twice
09:23 huginn`        tuxayo: Quote #336: "josef_moravec: ... no problem, that's why we are team, nobody can notice everything by self ;)" (added by cait at 09:22 AM, March 07, 2019)
09:23 tuxayo         @quote get 336
09:23 ashimema       lol
09:22 cait           muahahaha
09:22 huginn`        cait: Quote #336: "josef_moravec: ... no problem, that's why we are team, nobody can notice everything by self ;)" (added by cait at 09:22 AM, March 07, 2019)
09:22 cait           @quote get 336
09:22 ashimema       but how do I retrieve it
09:22 huginn`        cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes
09:22 cait           @quote #366
09:22 cait           quote #336
09:22 ashimema       well I've registered and added the quote
09:22 ashimema       hmm..
09:22 cait           quote add  josef_moravec: ... no problem, that's why we are team, nobody can notice everything by self ;)
09:21 ashimema       quote #335
09:21 ashimema       Quote #335
09:18 * ashimema     is pm'ing huggin to save on channel chatter
09:17 cait           how do you sign in with huginn?
09:17 cait           i used to... but i think i forgot my password
09:17 eythian        if you poke huginn` in the right way, he'll give you help about how to do things.
09:17 * ashimema     now asks huggin how to register..
09:16 eythian        yeah, you need to register
09:16 ashimema       pm huggin` with `list quote` and it'll tell you how the command works
09:16 ashimema       I just tried
09:16 ashimema       we can't cait.. we need to be registered with huggin
09:11 huginn`        ashimema: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. You may also want to use the 'list' command to list all available plugins and commands.
09:11 ashimema       huginn`: help
09:11 ashimema       he could tell us how to add quotes
09:11 ashimema       sure I saw eythian this morning
09:10 cait           if i knew how to add quotes, I'd add that one
09:10 huginn`        Bug 22470: minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Missing the table name on misc/migration_tools/switch_marc21_series_info.pl
09:10 gveranis       https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22470
09:10 cait           josef_moravec++ :)
09:07 AndrewIsh      josef_moravec:  :)
09:07 josef_moravec  AndrewIsh: no problem, that's why we are team, nobody can notice everything by self ;)
09:06 AndrewIsh      josef_moravec:  I can't believe I didn't notice this when I was rebasing yesterday, sorry :(
09:05 gveranis       I will try it
09:05 huginn`        josef_moravec: The operation succeeded.
09:05 josef_moravec  @later tell kidclamp: There is something wrong with Bug 20639, should be in master, but it is not
09:04 cait           could you file a bug for that?
09:04 cait           UPDATE marc_subfield_structure SET kohafield='seriestitle' - it's missing the table name
09:04 gveranis       thanks cait
09:04 cait           gveranis: you are right
09:04 AndrewIsh      In the meantime, I'll remove the offending bits from 18837, they shouldn't be there anyway
09:03 AndrewIsh      josef_moravec:  Yep
09:03 josef_moravec  git log --oneline | grep "Bug 20639" return only: 986d551ac4 Bug 20639: DBRev 18.12.00.016
09:03 cait           kidclamp: ?
09:03 cait           ugh
09:02 AndrewIsh      josef_moravec:  I just found that too, there's no sign of the 20639 patches in master :-/
09:02 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20639 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, RESOLVED FIXED, Allow setting a default/single backend for OPAC driven requests
09:02 josef_moravec  cait, AndrewIsh: so it is from bug 20639, which is pushed for 19.05, but "git grep ILLOpacbackends" on master does not return anything...
09:01 gveranis       it should update to biblio.seriestitle and not to seriestitle
09:01 wahanui        hmmm... do you mean is reserves.tt the only place where a hold gets placed?
09:01 cait           what do you mean?
09:00 gveranis       yes it use the new db structure but the kohafield is not the new one..
09:00 cait           but i have also never used it
09:00 cait           using biblio_metadata
09:00 cait           gveranis: it looks like the script was updated to the new db structure at least
08:59 AndrewIsh      It's somehow leaked in from another bug, I'm digging!
08:59 AndrewIsh      Looking into it now
08:59 cait           not much in the patch, i guess most is in the backend
08:59 cait           ah sorry, just took a quick look :)
08:59 josef_moravec  cait: I know, I asked Andrewish to do something with that ;)
08:59 gveranis       Marc21
08:58 gveranis       and 18.11 also
08:58 gveranis       18.05
08:58 cait           gveranis: which version of Koha re you using?
08:57 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18837 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Failed QA , Add an unmediated Interlibrary Loans workflow
08:57 cait           josef_moravec: the first patch for bug 18837 doesn't look right - has the other pref in it.
08:57 gveranis       but it is on default installation on Koha
08:57 gveranis       because 440 is obsolete from 2008..
08:57 gveranis       this script it to change 440 to 490
08:56 gveranis       oh ok!
08:56 gveranis       maybe the right one is biblio.seriestitle
08:56 * fridolin     i did not know this script exists
08:56 gveranis       when running this script change kohafield to seriestitle
08:56 gveranis       I would like to ask something for misc/migration_tools/switch_marc21_series_info.pl
08:55 fridolin       hi gveranis
08:55 gveranis       hi koha
08:55 fridolin       thanks a lot
08:54 * ashimema     will be jumping back on the qa train later today
08:54 magnuse        yeah josef_moravec++ and ashimema++ fridolin++
08:54 cait           also josef_moravec++ and ashimema++ and fridolin++
08:54 cait           hi josef_moravec :)
08:53 josef_moravec  hi cait
08:53 tuxayo         o/
08:53 * cait         waves
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08:52 magnuse        yeah
08:50 ashimema       glad it's working again though
08:50 ashimema       how strange
08:50 ashimema       what...
08:49 magnuse        reboot the server and now it works...
08:45 magnuse        /var/log/koha/koha/zebra-output.log has lots of "zebrasrv(138) [warn] ir_session (exception)"
08:40 magnuse        when i try to do "yaz-client -c /etc/koha/zebradb/ccl.properties unix:/var/run/koha/$instance/bibliosocket" i get "Connecting...OK." and then "Segmentation fault"
08:21 ere            :D
08:21 ashimema       lots of that going around ere ;)
08:21 ashimema       hehe
08:21 * ere          sighs in relief..
08:21 magnuse        yup, not es
08:21 ere            magnuse: Zebra?
08:20 magnuse        detail view works, but that is from the db
08:19 magnuse        so it seems the indexer gets the records and prcesses them, but does not return them
08:19 magnuse        ...and facets
08:19 magnuse        and different searches show different number of hits
08:18 magnuse        yup, me too
08:17 ashimema       I would have expected the rebuild to complain if there was some data corruption
08:16 ashimema       that's really wierd.. I wonder what's going on
08:16 magnuse        hehe
08:16 ashimema       but that doesn't help you.. sorry
08:16 magnuse        biblio_metadata.metadata has the records as expected
08:16 * ashimema     sighs in relief..
08:15 magnuse        marcflavour is normarc (shudder) and all configs seem to be for normarc, so it's not that
08:15 magnuse        i have other 18.11.03 without that problem
08:14 magnuse        search.pl: :  at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 1934.: /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/catalogue/search.pl
08:14 ashimema       that worries me.. hope I've not introduced a bug in 18.11.03 of that magnitude
08:14 magnuse        ERROR DECODING RECORD - Empty String at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/File/XML.pm line 448.: /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/catalogue/search.pl
08:14 magnuse        errors are:
08:14 magnuse        in the intranet it shows the number of hits and the facets, but not the actual records
08:14 ashimema       even more odd
08:13 ashimema       odd
08:13 magnuse        reindexing happens without any complaints
08:13 magnuse        but now search does not work
08:13 magnuse        well this is weird. i upgraded a site from 3.18.x to 18.11.03. between 16.06.00.013 and 16.06.00.014 the upgrade process lost contact with the db and the server was unresponsive for a while, but then i mnaged a reboot, and the db upgrade seemed to pick up where it left off, without any errors.
08:12 josef_moravec  ashimema++
08:10 josef_moravec  ashimema: it is always great to disscus such things
08:09 ashimema       thanks for the chat.. certainly helped clarify it in my head :)
08:09 ashimema       :)
08:09 josef_moravec  ok, ashimema, so do it, thanks!
08:08 ashimema       I'm happy to do so whilst I have the branch checked out.. then you can switch back to ILL..
08:08 josef_moravec  I could do it
08:08 ashimema       want me to add the db update to nuke it from the table?
08:05 josef_moravec  yes, we could do it on separate bug
08:05 ashimema       I agree.. that is missing still
08:04 ashimema       and adding accountline_id going forward may be useful, but could go into it's own bug in my opinion.. and I'm not sure how usefull it will be.. you've already got other data which you could use to work backwards to accounts maybe?
08:04 josef_moravec  i think we should remove the statistics.proccode field too
08:04 josef_moravec  ashimema: yes, it is imposible to migrate here
08:04 ashimema       I don't think we could migrate it to accountline_id (for the reasons you outline above)
08:03 ashimema       proccode isn't mentioned in any of the reports in the wiki which makes me think no-one has ever made it work nicely
08:03 ashimema       yeah.. but I think I'm in agreement with you that removing is sensible now
08:02 josef_moravec  s/sill/still/
08:02 josef_moravec  but the question of what to do with statistics.proccode is sill valid
08:02 josef_moravec  ok, i thought it was as you pointed aout in comment 23
08:01 ashimema       I've just fixed my bad rebase and uploaded the results so the tests should now all pass
08:01 ashimema       I'm going to comment
08:01 josef_moravec  ashimema: i thought of some kind of db update, but the combination of proccode and borrowernumber is not unique in statistics table on our production system
07:59 josef_moravec  ashimema++
07:59 * ashimema     takes a quick scan of the reports library to see if proccode is used in any of them
07:59 alex_a         bonjour
07:52 josef_moravec  AndrewIsh: thanks
07:51 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18837 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Add an unmediated Interlibrary Loans workflow
07:51 AndrewIsh      josef_moravec:  It was bug 18837 in case you forgot ;-)
07:51 AndrewIsh      josef_moravec:  Awesome, thanks. I rebased after your request, so it should be good to go now :)
07:45 reiveune       hello
07:43 josef_moravec  so I don't think proccode is really useful
07:43 josef_moravec  now we are using accountlines and account_offsets, and it works great, especially when there is branchcode in accountlines
07:42 josef_moravec  I thought about it, i remember, we had problem to create useful accounting reports before account_offsets and never made it working on top of statistics and accountlines
07:41 ashimema       Maybe we need caits or someone to input?  The coding shouldn't be too involved really I shouldn't think
07:41 ashimema       What do you think on that one.. we weren't sure whether to remove proccode completely, re-use it populating it with accountline_id or replace it with a new more appropriately named field.. I'm not close enough to how stats are used to really comment
07:40 josef_moravec  something ;)
07:40 josef_moravec  ashimema: hope i can do anything with that...
07:39 ashimema       Thanks josef_moravec
07:39 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21683 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Failed QA , Remove accountlines.accountno
07:39 josef_moravec  right after bug 21683, which I am looking again into
07:38 josef_moravec  AndrewIsh: I have a feeling I wanted continue on testing some ILL bug, maybe the unemdiated ILL one? ;)
07:38 josef_moravec  Hi AndrewIsh
07:37 josef_moravec  hi calire
07:37 wahanui        josef_moravec is using this "manual" when building packages: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way
07:37 calire         hey josef_moravec
07:37 josef_moravec  marcelr: you were quick ;)
07:36 josef_moravec  morning #koha
07:36 josef_moravec  ;)
07:36 josef_moravec  ok ;)
07:35 marcelr        check the logs..
07:35 marcelr        greetings :)
07:35 josef_moravec  what were you speaking about?
07:35 josef_moravec  hi marcelr
07:34 wahanui        rumour has it josef_moravec is using this "manual" when building packages: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way
07:34 marcelr        and josef_moravec
07:34 wahanui        andreashm is this the ppt from last kohacon?
07:34 marcelr        and andreashm
07:34 marcelr        hi cait calire
07:34 calire         hi marcelr
07:34 calire         morning #koha
07:33 cait           bbiab
07:33 * cait         waves
07:30 marcelr        hi #koha
07:15 liliputech_asu hello :)
06:48 alexbuckley    hi all
06:48 wahanui        hello, fridolin
06:48 fridolin       hi there
05:57 magnuse        \o/
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