Time Nick Message 23:30 alexbuckley hi all, I have a problem. I am trying to load a 17.05.06 db data into a site and then upgrade it to 18.11.01. I have dropped and re-created the db, then run koha-upgrade-schema however I end up with 224 tables rather than 205 as expected for 18.11.01. This is due to some tables not being removed during the koha-upgrade-schema, has anyone come across this before and have any suggestions? 19:56 oleonard See y'all later! 19:34 cait 104 appears a bit high even... although i have been writing lots of small things 19:34 tcohen 104 511 19:34 tcohen your ratio 19:32 cait hm? 19:31 tcohen cait: you break the media 19:30 tcohen but isn't that bad, right? 19:30 tcohen that's not a 2x ratio 19:30 tcohen 205 284 19:30 tcohen indeed 19:30 cait wonder what breaks the theory... multiple qa runs? 19:30 cait 2010 5412 19:29 cait patches to signoffs: 20105412 19:29 cait hm 19:29 cait and you are right... but with qa and so needed 1:2 is not quite reached 19:28 cait tcohen: the dashboard shows those stats btw :) 19:28 cait hi kathryn :) 19:25 tcohen =D 19:24 tcohen a bag of hazelnut cookies 19:24 tcohen cait: I bet we all test more patches than those we submit already 19:20 kathryn hi :) 19:20 oleonard Hi kathryn 19:20 kathryn morning oleonard and cait and all :) 19:20 cait oleonard++ bug clean-up 18:56 cait i would probably have fixed them later - just didn't get further this morning 18:56 kidclamp np, doing my best :-) 18:56 cait kidclamp: thx for the quick follow-ups :) 18:53 caroline1 hey! 18:53 cait hi caroline1 :) 18:53 cait sorry, I didn't wan tto kill the discussion 18:45 cait thinking of all the people working on interest groups etc 18:45 cait so it can be sold 18:45 cait heavily so 18:45 cait truth is... libraries invest in folio too 18:45 cait then name it something different? 18:43 ashimema Very hard to sell that. 18:41 cait every patch you submit... also test 2 18:41 cait maybe another approach would be to add a charge for community type of work 18:41 cait there is lots of patches stuck that need developers to sign off to 18:38 ashimema More confidence and time 18:38 ashimema I don't think it often comes down to money 18:38 ashimema Many dont 18:38 ashimema We encourage our libraries to sign off.. many do 18:36 tuxayo Or also have bounties for signoffs. 18:36 tuxayo I wonder if it would work if support companies would give a small discount if the libraries-customers would do a signoff from time to time :P 18:35 tuxayo «we have tons of patches untested» 18:31 cait tuxayo: i know, thx :) just betweenkitchen and laptop right now 18:30 tuxayo cait: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2019-02-20#i_2118978 18:29 ashimema josef_moravec about? 18:29 cait we have tons of patches untested 18:28 cait i tihnk fixing is only hte half of it 18:28 oleonard cait: We were talking about the idea of "bug bounties" ... paying for patches 18:25 cait feeels like i missed some interesting discussion 18:23 tuxayo I wish EBSCO could do that to make Koha better, in case Folio doesn't end up as they expect. 18:21 tuxayo I'm amazed that IBM uses that and has put 300k USD in it https://www.bountysource.com/teams/ibm 18:18 tuxayo And when the issue is solved, the dev can claim the bounty. 18:18 tuxayo That's pretty much how Bountysource works. Someone would fill a bug, then in Bountysource, store money on it (get it back after some time if nothing happens) 18:18 tuxayo wizzyrea: «another idea is a list where libraries could ask for development bids from vendors» 18:01 tuxayo hue hue hue 18:01 tuxayo in commit message: «Rescued-by: Martin Renvoize <martin.renvoize@ptfs-europe.com>» 18:01 tuxayo ashimema++ 17:56 niki how can i sow the all patrons list 17:56 wahanui que tal, niki 17:56 niki hi 17:52 oleonard ashimema++ 17:31 ashimema indeed 17:31 cait [off] http://devs.bywatersolutions.com/ 17:31 wizzyrea yeah 17:31 ashimema find-a-dev type thingy 17:31 cait hm would be interesting to hear how bwater's experiences are 17:30 ashimema totally 17:30 wizzyrea not vague feature requests 17:30 ashimema indeed 17:30 wizzyrea as part of the request for bid 17:30 ashimema that would be nice 17:30 wizzyrea i feel like they'd have to have a spec ready though 17:30 wizzyrea a library has money to solve a problem, but no developer, make a place where that library can ask vendors to bid. 17:29 cait no josef... around... but he is awesome. hope he knows. 17:29 ashimema hmm.. suppose not 17:29 ashimema we're trying again recently, but I don't hold out a huge amount of hope myself 17:29 wizzyrea not crowdfunding 17:29 ashimema we've never had any luck with croudfunding 17:28 wizzyrea another idea is a list where libraries could ask for development bids from vendors 17:27 ashimema how did you do that bounty thing tucayo? 17:26 ashimema ;) 17:26 ashimema rescued.. fancy testing it oleonard 17:14 ashimema I've wondered that a few times 17:13 tuxayo And if that would attract more individuals doing Koha support to start contributing 17:13 tuxayo https://www.bountysource.com/issues/70324813-increase-the-size-of-opacnote-and-librariannote-for-table-subscriptionhistory 17:13 * tuxayo wonders if it would work to have general donations that could allocaded as bounties to small/medium bugs 17:10 tuxayo thanks :) 17:08 ashimema I'm on it 17:08 ashimema no worries 17:08 ashimema haha 17:08 tuxayo I shoud probably finish stuff before beginning new one. Otherwise I will create other bugzillas like this and it will be a never ending cycle!! 17:08 tuxayo ashimema: «tuxayo could if he feels like rescue duties» 17:06 tuxayo (indeed it's not a pleasure to see such a situation) 17:05 tuxayo oleonard: indeed, and there is not much left. It's a low hanging fruit (academy tag?) 17:05 ashimema nice one to finish the day on 17:05 ashimema I'll hit it.. won't take long 17:05 ashimema it looks like a tiny patch 17:05 oleonard ashimema: I didn't feel qualified to resurrect it myself, but I'd be happy to sign off 17:05 ashimema or tuxayo could if he feels like rescue duties ;) 17:04 ashimema want to resurrect the patch for it oleonard.. or would you like me to and then you can SO? 17:04 wizzyrea what's the haps 17:02 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 17:02 tuxayo o/ 17:01 wizzyrea hi peeps 17:00 reiveune bye 16:57 oleonard tuxayo: A patch was submitted, a correction was suggested, then nothing for 6 years while people comment that they wish it could be fixed. 16:56 tuxayo «hates to see "still valid" comments on a bug going on 6 years...» 16:56 tuxayo oleonard: Why? Due to the bug still being there? Or due to the fact that votes (if more visible) should be the way to showing interest in a bug. 16:54 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18723 critical, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Stable , Dot not recognized as decimal separator on receive 16:54 tuxayo I'm trying to figure all the things that must be updated as a consequence. At least there is aqorders.unitprice_tax_included 16:54 tuxayo Due to bug 18723 16:54 tuxayo Has anyone ever manually fixed (SQL) various aqorders.unitprice_tax_excluded (field "Actual price" when receiving) 16:54 tuxayo Hi, :) 16:38 corilynn everyone knows SQL table changes are like chisseling WAR AND PEACE onto stone 16:37 corilynn i mean... it's set to low priority... are librarians clammoring for it? 16:24 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10215 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Increase the size of opacnote and librariannote for table subscriptionhistory 16:24 oleonard In this case, Bug 10215 16:24 * oleonard hates to see "still valid" comments on a bug going on 6 years... 15:31 tcohen hi 15:30 cait recovery would be to get your lost password back, but we force a reset 15:30 cait tcohen: strange question... isn#t recovery wrong? 15:07 ashimema lol 15:05 cait that i noticed the last time i trasnlated that 15:05 cait because there was a mistake somewhere 15:05 cait .... and the worst of all, it was my patch changing it 14:46 blou_ ooouuuuuuh, ouch 14:46 ashimema ouch 14:43 cait this mkes me cry: http://translate.koha-community.org/de/18.11/translate/de-DE-staff-prog.po#unit=8649543 14:35 cait staff.po 14:35 cait hm I wonder why this didn't get replaced by %s? Can't cancel order, ([% books_loo.holds_on_order | html %]) holds are linked with this order. Cancel holds first 13:58 oleonard Customizations? 13:58 wahanui code is bad but exists, so I copied it.. really? :D 13:58 cait code? 13:43 fridolin funny ;) 13:42 fridolin be have code from https://staff.bedfordtx.bywatersolutions.com/ 13:42 fridolin kidclamp: hello, any of BW using our demo ? https://intranet-demo.biblibre.com 13:23 ashimema Yeah, Tomas did great getting things moving again 13:23 cait we also have a flu wave :( 13:23 ashimema Lol 13:22 cait not sure what's up... must be something in the water or suns pots 13:22 cait yeah 13:22 cait tomas is working on handover still i think? 13:22 ashimema Bit of a challenging month 🤔 13:22 cait so po files appear to have been updated 13:22 cait there are strings 13:22 cait i have a reminder in my calendar 13:21 ashimema I totally forgot to announce string freeze properly 13:21 ashimema fridolin is aiming for 25th for 17.11 13:21 ashimema That's the aim 13:21 cait i need to catch up on translations too i just realized 13:20 cait ashimema: release on 22nd? 13:20 ashimema Help .. even 13:20 ashimema Helo 13:20 * ashimema needs to get back to his customers again now.. sorry I couldn't be more heloy 13:19 ashimema Basically getting the server able to send mail properly is the first step . . We just use the servers MTA to do all the real work 13:18 ashimema I have no idea what module we use these days.. but I don't believe it's changed in a long time 13:18 ashimema Huh 13:18 oleonard They were asking here, a few minutes ago 13:16 cait oleonard: which email was that? 13:10 oleonard No one able to advise gerundio? 12:42 gerundio is Koha still using the Mail::Sendmail Perl library to send all its emails? 12:33 gerundio is there any reference on how to properly set up a Koha installation to send emails? 12:32 gerundio so far I couldn't find any documentation on this topic 12:32 gerundio I'm experiencing some issues regarding mails being sent from Koha 12:32 oleonard Hi all 12:32 gerundio hi everyone 09:51 * andreashm waves 09:17 Archie^ Yoh Koha team! 08:56 huginn` ashimema: Joubu was last seen in #koha 8 weeks, 4 days, 18 hours, 34 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <Joubu> JesseM: 18.05_D8 is green! I am starting manually the runs for D9 and U18 right now 08:56 ashimema @seen Joubu 08:53 magnuse ~~~ 08:44 * cait waves again 08:43 ashimema hello 08:33 magnuse \o/ 07:56 alex_a bonjour 07:38 reiveune hello 07:28 cait sorry, have to run, bbiab 07:13 cait I'd start looking if both of those behave the same i guess 07:12 paxed err, 17.05, of course :D 07:12 cait and there are only 2 spots we allow to cancel from - basket and parcel 07:12 cait you can't undo 'cancel order' can't you? 07:11 cait we are not that far off, 17.11 07:11 paxed cait: we're running a fork of 17.07 07:10 cait but if they are new, probably worth investiaging 07:10 cait i don't know of any unfixed 07:10 cait there were bugs with the status settings 07:10 fridolin hi 07:10 paxed i wonder how that happens. 07:10 paxed select count(*) from aqorders where datecancellationprinted is not null and orderstatus!='cancelled'; => 172 07:10 paxed hm. 07:05 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 07:05 cait @later tell oleonard could you take a look at bug 7088 maybe? It's a circ question about handling renewal overrides of on hold items? 07:05 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 07:05 cait @later tell caroline could you take a look at bug 7088 maybe? It's a circ question about handling renewal overrides of on hold items - interested in librarian opinions :) 07:04 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 07:04 cait @later tell wizzyrea could you take a look at bug 7088 maybe? It's a circ question about handling renewal overrides of on hold items 04:23 * mtompset collapses asleep.