Time Nick Message 06:22 fridolin hi there 06:22 wahanui hola, fridolin 06:22 fridolin release day woooo 06:37 josef_moravec cait++ 07:36 reiveune hello 07:41 alex_a bonjour 08:05 magnuse \o/ 08:08 magnuse https://www.interleaf.ie/kohacon-schedule/ says 3 days conference, 1 day social and 2 days workshops - no hackfest? 08:20 * andreashm waves 08:25 ashimema I 'think' workshops is the 'new name' for hackfest 08:27 andreashm we are using workshop/hackfest for the swedish user group meeting. so maybe a trend? =) 08:28 ashimema Workshops meaning 'translation workshop', 'signoff workshop', 'git workshop', 'mojolicious api development workshop', 'koha::objects workshop'.. those sorts of things 08:28 ashimema and then general 'hacking' going on alongside.. I believe 08:58 magnuse ashimema: sounds good :-) 08:58 magnuse it will be hard to make us *not* hack, i suspect 08:59 andreashm magnuse: you can always go to Skövde for more hacking! ;) 08:59 magnuse oh, i will! 08:59 andreashm =) 09:02 josef_moravec cait: hi, what do you think about this? https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21720#c6 09:02 huginn Bug 21720: enhancement, P5 - low, 19.05, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Update C4::Circulation::AddIssuingCharge to use Koha::Account->add_debit 09:07 ashimema ooh.. is Magnus going to Skövde 09:07 andreashm yes 09:07 andreashm and ere 09:07 andreashm =) 09:08 andreashm (I _think_ magnuse is going at least) 09:21 fridolin arf translation site is down http://translate.koha-community.org/ 09:40 magnuse ashimema, andreashm: 10 wild horses could not keep me away :-) 09:41 ashimema just 10 09:41 ashimema works for me fridolin 09:41 fridolin yep juste came back cool 09:42 ashimema coolies 09:45 eythian hi 09:54 magnuse kia ora eythian 10:07 magnuse kia ora paul_p 10:09 paul_p hello magnuse & al 10:15 fridolin https://koha-community.org/koha-17-11-14-release/ 10:15 fridolin here we are 10:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #138: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/138/ 10:31 ashimema you'r quick off the mark this morning frido :) 10:31 ashimema you're quick off the mark this morning frido :) 10:31 ashimema I was aiming for this afternoon.. still in my morning plethora of calls 10:37 magnuse fridolin++ 10:39 magnuse huh? i do "my $patron = Koha::Patron->new( \%borrower )->store;" then when i immediately check $patron->updated_on it's empty. if i look in the db the borrower is there, with a value for borrowers.updated_on 11:31 eythian @wunder amsterdam 11:31 huginn eythian: Amsterdam, Netherlands :: Snow :: 30F/-1C | Wind Chill: 19F/-7C | Tuesday: Snow this morning will transition to snow showers this afternoon. High 34F. Winds S at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of snow 90%. Snow accumulations less than one inch. Tuesday Night: Cloudy skies. Icy patches on untreated surfaces. Low 28F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph. 11:31 eythian I think chance of snow is 100% given it's been falling for a couple of hours now 11:46 tcohen morning 12:36 oleonard Hi #koha 12:37 josef_moravec hi oleonard 12:37 wahanui hi oleopard 12:41 calire hi oleonard 12:41 wahanui hi oleopard 12:41 * cait waves 12:44 oleonard I hope y'all enjoyed your American-free Monday 12:49 cait1 were you gone? :P 12:50 oleonard :D 12:51 eythian hileopard 12:58 cait1 :) 13:01 magnuse @wunder bodø, norway 13:01 huginn magnuse: Error: I could not find a valid location for: bodø, norway 13:01 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway 13:01 huginn magnuse: Bodo, Norway :: Clear :: 19F/-7C | Wind Chill: 5F/-15C | Tuesday: Sunny. High 21F. Winds ESE at 10 to 20 mph. Tuesday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Hard freeze expected. Low 13F. Winds E at 10 to 20 mph. 13:01 oleonard @wunder 45701 13:01 huginn oleonard: Athens, OH :: Clear :: 10F/-12C | Wind Chill: 2F/-17C | Tuesday: A mix of clouds and sun during the morning will give way to cloudy skies this afternoon. High near 40F. Winds light and variable. Tuesday Night: Cloudy skies. Slight chance of a rain shower. Low 34F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph. 13:01 magnuse you win, oleonard 13:01 oleonard I win! (lose) 13:02 magnuse "Slight chance of a rain shower"?!? 13:02 magnuse at -12C? 13:03 oleonard Current temp 10F, Low 34F. 13:04 * magnuse gets confused 13:04 oleonard But yeah... forecast is for a 30 degree temperature rise today. 13:04 magnuse woops 13:18 cait1 @wunder Berlin 13:18 huginn cait1: Error: Failed to load Wunderground API. Check the logs for more information. 14:02 kidclamp @wunder 05001 14:02 huginn kidclamp: White River Junction, VT :: Clear :: -8F/-22C | Wind Chill: -19F/-28C | Tuesday: Sunshine and a few afternoon clouds. High 19F. Winds NW at 5 to 10 mph. Tuesday Night: Cloudy. Low 6F. Winds light and variable. 14:03 kidclamp Do I win? 14:09 oleonard kidclamp: Yes (no) 14:19 cait1 @wunder Berlin, Germany 14:19 huginn cait1: Berlin, Germany :: Clear :: 32F/0C | Wind Chill: 24F/-4C | Tuesday: Sunny. High 33F. Winds SE at 5 to 10 mph. Tuesday Night: Generally clear. Hard freeze expected. Low 21F. Winds SE at 5 to 10 mph. 14:34 ashimema any translations pros around? 14:35 ashimema cait1 about? 14:35 cait1 here 14:35 cait1 somewhat here at least 14:35 ashimema got a new type translation failure here and wondered if you might be able to help shed some light on it 14:35 * ashimema sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/pXxQSjWoLkgBgMXfXrZMDfsH > 14:39 cait1 looking now 14:40 ashimema hugs 14:40 cait1 intersesting 14:40 cait1 what doest he message look like? 14:42 ashimema I think it's the whole new plural handling stuff 14:42 ashimema it looks wierd 14:43 cait1 i was afraid it would be that 14:44 ashimema jajm around? 14:47 paul_p @wunder marseilles, france 14:47 huginn paul_p: Error: I could not find a valid location for: marseilles, france 14:47 paul_p @wunder marseille, france 14:47 huginn paul_p: Marseille, France :: Clear :: 45F/7C | Wind Chill: 38F/4C | Tuesday: Mostly cloudy. Lows overnight in the mid 30s. Tuesday Night: Cloudy. Low 34F. Winds NW at 10 to 15 mph. 14:48 oleonard I'll bet Marseille's scarf game is on point today 14:48 ashimema hi paul_p 14:51 paul_p hi ashimema & oleonard & others 14:53 ashimema anyone here understand the new plural translations stuff especially well? 14:53 cait1 jajm: 14:54 ashimema cait1 14:54 ashimema are newlines "\n" allowed in translations at all 14:54 ashimema it might be that in this case 14:56 jajm ashimema, i think they should be allowed, if that doesn't work then it's a bug 14:56 * ashimema has just removed one and is re-running junit tests 14:58 cait1 i think they are problematic 14:58 cait1 you might need to escape 14:58 jajm ashimema, can you paste the interesting part of your po file somewhere ? 14:58 cait1 or they just appear as \n 14:59 cait1 i remember i removed them all from the javascript messages in the past due to a translation issue 15:00 ashimema https://paste.debian.net/1061884/ 15:01 ashimema that's the whole po file (it's tiny) 15:01 ashimema the error points at line 28 15:01 ashimema which is `msgstr[0] "{count} ﻡïºïº©ïº“"` 15:01 ashimema removing the "\n" made no difference 15:01 ashimema and it's the wrong line anyways 15:03 cait1 hm how does the german one look like? if that gives no error? 15:03 cait1 i transated it i think 15:03 cait1 is it possible they should have 5 plural forms or something like that? 15:04 cait1 Plural-Forms: nplurals=6; plural=n==0 ? 0 : n==1 ? 1 : n==2 ? 2 : n%100>=3 " "&& n%100<=10 ? 3 : n%100>=11 ? 4 : 5;\n 15:04 cait1 6 15:06 ashimema yours looks very different 15:06 ashimema I think you're right. 15:06 ashimema they've somehow got way too many translation strings for the number of msg_id's 15:07 cait1 i think for them it's probably right 15:07 cait1 something in the setup doens't work 15:07 cait1 not for Arabic 15:08 ashimema any magic thoughts jajm? 15:13 jajm ashimema, if i try to compile your po file i have the same error as you ('msgid' and 'msgstr[2]' entries do not both end with 'n), but the mo file is generated anyway 15:13 jajm if i remove '\n' the error disappear 15:16 ashimema oh really 15:17 ashimema i get a new error if I remove the \n 15:17 ashimema `<failure message="msgfmt failure">misc/translator/po/ar-Arab-messages.po:28: a format specification for argument 'count' doesn't exist in 'msgstr[3]'` 15:20 cait1 becuase 3 is missing it 15:20 cait1 it should not be empty 15:20 cait1 is my guess, it complains about hte missing variable like it does for %s 15:21 jajm ashimema, you may have a stricter version of msgfmt... but i can see a similar message with the option -c of msgfmt 15:21 jajm cait1, yes, exactly 15:24 ashimema so we're basically saying that because they've not translated Plural form 1, 3, 4 or 5 that's why we're failing the test? 15:25 ashimema i.e. we're expecting the {count} variable to appear in all translations 15:26 cait1 yes 15:26 cait1 or the translation is incomplete 15:26 cait1 it makes sense 15:26 cait1 somehow 15:27 cait1 translate all the forms or none... but partial it probably can't deal with 15:27 ashimema yeah.. I think I understand 15:28 cait1 we could copy form 2 for all maybe? 15:28 cait1 or fuzzy the whole thing 15:30 * ashimema tries to remember how to mark as fuzzy 15:40 cait1 grep for fuzzy in the po files? 15:40 cait1 i think there are sure some 15:44 ashimema sorted.. thanks chaps 16:25 reiveune bye 16:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #21: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/21/ 16:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #19: UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/19/ 16:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #21: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/21/ 17:23 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 17:23 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #20: FIXED in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/20/ 17:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #164: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/164/ 17:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #168: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/168/ 18:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #169: SUCCESS in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/169/ 18:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #169: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/169/ 19:57 oleonard Bye all 21:21 * cait1 waves 21:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #170: SUCCESS in 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/170/ 21:30 cait1 oh the quiet 21:35 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 21:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #170: FIXED in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/170/ 21:50 * kidclamp waves goodbye 21:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #165: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/165/ 21:51 cait1 drojf++ 22:45 cait1 hm that's an issue 22:46 cait1 koha says i got too many holds on that record... bu ti have none