Time Nick Message 07:26 magnuse kia ora andreashm and #koha 07:28 davidnind If the status of a bug is currently 'Needs Signoff' and the patch doesn't work, what do I change the status to when I add my comments? 07:28 calire davidnind failed QA 07:28 calire or does not apply 07:28 calire if it doesn't apply... 07:30 davidnind thanks calire! 07:31 davidnind in this case it does apply, but it doesn't do what it is supposed to do - I thought failed QA was for the QA team... 07:31 calire so did I, but I was told to use it if it doesn't work 07:31 calire I still find it scary 07:31 calire :) 07:32 calire worst case teh developer will check and change it back to needs signoff 07:33 calire there is no 'failed sign off' option and if it doesn't work then it wouldn't pass QA, I guess that would be my logic 07:35 davidnind your logic makes sense! (feeling a bit mean for failing something, but I guess it is all part of learning and the benefit of someone else looking at things!) 07:35 calire I feel mean too 07:36 calire Maybe we could get it clarified 07:37 davidnind it's probably in the developer guide - I haven't looked though! :-D 07:39 reiveune hello 07:42 davidnind It's covered here on the wiki https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow 07:42 davidnind Makes better sense now! 07:43 calire ah cool! I was looking and hadn't found that page yet :D 07:44 davidnind too much documentation! :) 08:04 ashimema Anyone can fail QA, only QA team can pass it 08:05 ashimema Little known thing, QA team can on occasion skip signoff if the patch is sufficiently simple and unlikely to case debate too. 😉 08:06 fridolin hi 08:06 ashimema S/case/cause/ 08:06 ashimema Morning fridolins. 08:07 fridolin morning ;) 08:07 ashimema Oh pants.. I forgot to send the string freeze email last night.. better wrattle one off now 08:07 fridolin i'm on no_coffee_yet error ;) 08:08 cait ashimema: should be an exception tho 08:08 cait btw... i really need help with those open source academy patches 08:08 cait those kids are crazy fast. 08:12 davidnind working through things that need sign-off from today (I've only done 1 of 7 so far though...) 08:13 ashimema Done 08:14 ashimema I'm on that this morning Cait.. devoting the morning to it before going back to work woke stuff 😆 08:14 ashimema School run first though.. looks minging out there 08:14 cait ashimema: hm no strings to translate yet 08:14 cait ashimema++ thx 08:14 cait i have a list if you need it 08:14 cait super foggy here right now 08:22 matts hi 08:22 wahanui hi, matts 08:22 calire hi matts 09:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #137: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/137/ 10:46 eythian hi 10:46 wahanui bonjour, eythian 11:36 josef_moravec ashimema: around? 11:36 ashimema hi 11:36 josef_moravec hi ashimema 11:37 josef_moravec do you know what is the difference between recalls and holds here? bug 19532 11:37 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P3, ---, aleisha, ASSIGNED , Recalls for Koha 11:37 ashimema oh.. phone.. brb 11:37 * ashimema will try to multitask if you wanted to ask something go ahead 11:37 josef_moravec ashimema: it could wait ;) 11:57 cait some easy qa? I got some really nice ones! 12:01 ashimema lol.. that bug is a long story 12:01 ashimema will pm you josef 12:01 cait josef_moravec: calire put a new rfc on the wiki a few days ago 12:03 * ashimema was about to dig that out 12:03 josef_moravec https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Recall_RFC 12:10 josef_moravec The use case of this RFC does make sense to me, but I think it should be enhancement of holds funcionality... which is not the case of bug 12:10 josef_moravec bug 19532 12:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P3, ---, aleisha, ASSIGNED , Recalls for Koha 12:11 josef_moravec And I don't like the old_recalls table ;) 12:15 ashimema right.. sorry.. 12:15 ashimema back now.. that call for more invovled than I expected 12:16 ashimema so yeah.. basically the existing bug doesn't really do what the majority of people in the wider world seem to think of as recalls.. bywater, ptfs-e and bsz included at least. 12:16 ashimema so.. bsz have written an RFC to try and cover and explain our use case and then one of us is aiming to write an alternative on an entirely new bug 12:17 ashimema then.. i want to come back to that bug and see how we might achieve their needs atop this new bug 12:17 ashimema that's all a rough outline at this point though.. it's about finding funding and time now really on our side.. 12:18 ashimema but the bug as it stands I beleive has really reached a stalemate 12:21 josef_moravec thank you ashimema! I think I would have testers if there will be something new, but yes, looks like it needs to start again with this... 12:26 oleonard Hi all 12:45 calire ashimema++ 13:35 * oleonard offers to donate blood to splitter.koha-community.org 13:49 oleonard I don't think the patch on Bug 20679 does what the bug asks for, does it cait? 13:49 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20679 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Remove 'rows per page' from reports print layout 13:50 oleonard davidnind++ 13:55 cait oleonard: you are reading my mind 13:55 cait i was going to ask you to look 13:55 cait I think maybe they didn't know they could jsut do it with css? 13:55 cait could you give some pointers maybe? 13:55 oleonard Sure 13:57 cait oleonard++ # thx for the screenshot :) 13:57 cait probably my fault, i tried to explain which i liked better - they took that more literally 14:01 caroline good morning everyone! 14:01 cait good morning caroline :) 14:08 ashimema next meeting 14:08 ashimema next meeting? 14:08 ashimema meeting? 14:08 ashimema grr.. huggin 14:08 ashimema I'm sure that used to work 14:08 caroline ashimema: in 5 hours 14:08 cait next meetings? 14:08 cait it seems the bot has amnesia 14:09 cait @karma 14:09 huginn cait: Highest karma: "Joubu" (731), "cait" (661), and "tcohen" (383). Lowest karma: "-" (-48), "failed" (-41), and "ie" (-38). You (cait) are ranked 2 out of 906. 14:09 cait ok... not completely 14:09 ashimema oh.. my twitter bots keeps piping up that it's in an hour 14:09 cait it's possible, we moved the general one by a week 14:09 caroline :/ In the calendar it's at 2pm here (and it is now 9am) 14:09 calire there are 2 today 14:10 cait wahanui: Next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 14:10 wahanui OK, cait. 14:10 cait wahanui: Next meetings is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 14:10 wahanui OK, cait. 14:10 ashimema https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Koha+General+IRC+Meeting&iso=20190116T1400 14:10 caroline oh, well there you go! The General is not in the calendar 14:10 ashimema oh.. I had it as 2pm UTC 14:10 cait k, it's now 14:10 cait shoud we have the meeting now? 14:11 caroline why not 14:11 ashimema lol 14:11 ashimema no wonder I was confused 14:11 cait ping kidclamp fridolin 14:11 ashimema feel free.. kidclamp is around.. even if he is hiding 14:11 ashimema ;) 14:11 cait who else coudl we stir up? 14:11 cait heh 14:11 ashimema AndrewIsh 14:11 wahanui well, AndrewIsh is ready and waiting to jump on QA comments :) 14:11 cait #startmeeting General IRC Meeting 16 January 2019 14:11 huginn Meeting started Wed Jan 16 14:11:51 2019 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:11 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:11 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_16_january_2019' 14:12 kidclamp huh what? 14:12 kidclamp meeting now? 14:12 cait #topic Introductions 14:12 cait please introduce yourself with #info 14:12 cait it#s the one we postponed last week 14:12 ashimema we forgot the general meeting... again ;) 14:12 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro, Canada 14:12 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_16_January_2019 Agenda 14:12 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 14:12 kidclamp thanks cait 14:12 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe 14:12 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 14:12 AndrewIsh #info Andrew Isherwood, PTFS Europe 14:13 ashimema :) 14:14 cait #chair ashimema 14:14 huginn Current chairs: ashimema cait 14:14 calire #info Claire Gravely, BSZ, Germany 14:14 * fridolin buzy sorry 14:14 fridolin nothing new for RM 17.11 14:16 ashimema shall we move onto announcements 14:16 kidclamp yes 14:17 ashimema erm. 14:17 ashimema did kc.org just go down or is it just me 14:18 cait sorry phone 14:18 kidclamp chair me cait>/ 14:19 kidclamp please 14:19 ashimema #topic Announcements 14:19 ashimema #chair kidclamp 14:19 huginn Current chairs: ashimema cait kidclamp 14:19 * ashimema was looking up meetbot commands.. i don't do this often enough 14:19 cait sorry, got a phone call (great news for a change) 14:19 ashimema Nothing to announce from here.. got anything kidclamp? 14:20 ashimema oh.. 14:20 ashimema request for speakers is out for kohacon19 14:20 kidclamp ^ that 14:20 cait i got something 14:21 ashimema #link https://www.interleaf.ie/kohacon19/ Kohacon19 site is up 14:21 ashimema #info Kohacon19 call for speakers is out 14:22 ashimema go cait 14:23 cait oh sorry 14:23 cait there was a bit of a behind the scenes discussion about the KohaCon schedule I think - be aware it's not the usual format 14:23 cait but waht i wanted to say is: 14:23 cait #info Open Source Academy at Catalyst this week 14:23 cait please sign off and qa on the student's patches 14:24 cait they were super busy and have fixed a lot of things, usually easy to look at - I think it would mean a lot to them if we can manage to have one pushed of each at least 14:24 cait 6 students :) 14:25 caroline We have 4 interns that do mandatory community work on friday afternoons. would that be too late? 14:25 cait caroline: don't stop them, but probably a little too late 14:25 cait because of the time difference 14:26 cait woudl still be great 14:26 caroline ok, if there are any left, i'll let them know, otherwise, they will just S/O as usual 14:26 ashimema #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Catalyst_Academy academy 14:26 cait but ideall we should push them tomorrow (looks at kidclamp) 14:26 * kidclamp will update on my turn :-) 14:27 ashimema shall we move on? 14:27 cait yep 14:27 ashimema #topic Update on releases 14:27 cait if you need pointers for the bugs, find me :) 14:28 ashimema lol.. the order in the agenda is funny 14:28 ashimema #info 18.11.x we're all set for 18.11.02 release on 22nd. 14:28 kidclamp JesseM: lukeg 14:28 ashimema #info 18.11.x is currently in string freeze 14:29 ashimema that's all from me.. 14:29 ashimema 20 bugfixes.. so it's a little light.. but understandable as it includes a chunk of the post christmas period 14:30 ashimema either that or 18.11.x is remarkably bug free.. hehe :) 14:30 JesseM hi sry im here 14:30 cait i am doing a presentation on it next week 14:30 cait will tell you after ;) 14:30 cait probably the best test to find the most impossible things 14:30 ashimema anything you want to update us on regarding 18.05.x rmaint? 14:30 JesseM #info Jesse Maseto, ByWater 14:31 JesseM Nothing really. Just moving along nicely 14:31 ashimema 23 bugfixes currently in 18.05.x for next remaint release :) 14:31 JesseM Yes. Release is next week 14:32 ashimema #info 18.05.x rmaint going steady, also aiming for next release on 22nd 14:32 ashimema and frido had to duck out.. but it's all a similar story 14:32 ashimema #info 9 bugfixes for 17.11.x.. on target for 22nd. 14:32 ashimema right.. 14:32 ashimema cait 14:33 cait yes? 14:33 ashimema your up next on the agenda 14:33 cait ok :) 14:33 ashimema #topic Website 14:33 kidclamp hey, what about me? 14:33 ashimema all yours 14:33 cait oh 14:33 cait thought it was QA :) 14:33 cait Ok, so before christmas I updated the website a bit 14:34 cait on the front page we have 14:34 kidclamp I didn't update on next release 14:34 cait #link https://koha-community.org/ 14:34 cait Introducing Koha 18.05 Try it now 14:34 cait so that link is currently broken (oops) but it links to the demo site 14:34 cait and when I looked at the demos... I realized we don't have a lot of 18.11 there 14:34 ashimema oh.. sorry kidclamp 14:35 cait or even 18.05 14:35 cait and from the list you can't tell 14:35 cait i think only 3 out of those have 18.11 14:35 cait tamil, orex and admin kuhn 14:36 * ashimema gets confused between dev and general meeting agenda's.. so was following the wiki closely.. no qa section on that 14:36 cait I was wondering if we shoudl add the version to the listings 14:36 ashimema though I did miss the 'next release' section entirely.. oops 14:36 cait because it might be really confusing for people 14:36 ashimema version on the listings would be good in my opinion 14:37 cait more people have website accounts now, so i think we could keep it updated 14:37 ashimema though.. I don't know how often it wuold get updated 14:37 cait if people let us know when they update 14:37 ashimema :) 14:37 cait wecould also sort the newer versions on top, then alphabetic maybe? 14:37 ashimema +1 14:37 caroline um... trying to look at the page but it's blank... is it because we're all on it at the same time? 14:37 cait I have no perfect solution - but it seems like something we could improve 14:37 cait caroline: the link is strange, add / at the end 14:38 cait or got to the demo page from nav, needs fixing 14:38 caroline ok! works with th / at the end! thx cait! 14:38 ashimema for me kc.org is down 14:38 ashimema 500 errors.. with either url 14:38 JesseM Can we add the latest group photo from kohacon2018? 14:39 cait i guess we could 14:39 JesseM :) 14:39 cait maybe woudl be good to get it from the photographer - i am German, always worried about rights :) 14:39 cait https://koha-community.org/ doesn't work? 14:39 cait https://koha-community.org/demo/ works for me 14:40 ashimema nope.. for me everything 500 errors 14:40 JesseM cait I will email the photo to you 14:40 caroline could you add the / to the link under "try it now" while you're there too? 14:41 cait sorry, can't login right now, not before tonight, maybe one of the others can fix it now? 14:42 cait all rmaints and rm have accoutns at least 14:42 cait but i can volunteer to add the version if that's ok with people 14:42 cait and maybe remove if one is not working at all ? 14:43 cait everyone so quiet 14:43 cait vote? veto? :) 14:44 caroline everything you say makes sense! we have nothing to add :) 14:44 cait just something I wouldn't want to change without proposing it formally first :) 14:45 ashimema understood.. 14:45 cait #action cait volunteers to add version column to demo website listing, resort by version, alphabetic, comment non-working 14:46 cait commen out... 14:46 cait move on? 14:47 caroline and the link? 14:47 wahanui the link is, like, strange, add / at the end 14:47 ashimema :) 14:47 cait if it's still broken, i will fix it too :) 14:47 caroline wahanui: exactly! XD 14:47 wahanui caroline: sorry... 14:47 ashimema kidclamp want to step in and update us about 19.05 progress 14:47 ashimema sorry for missing you first time around 14:48 kidclamp heh - things are going well so far, catching some bugs and pushign enw things as I can 14:48 kidclamp accounts work has progressed nicely 14:48 kidclamp thank you all for all the hlep 14:48 ashimema kidclamp++ 14:48 kidclamp I am testing Mana currently with an eye toward pushing asap 14:48 ashimema `It includes 30 enhancements, 56 bugfixes.` 14:49 kidclamp if anyone else wants to take a look or has comments please let me know, I really want this in this cycle and early so we can test 14:49 caroline mana++! 14:49 JesseM mana++ 14:49 ashimema is there a public mana server out there to test against? 14:49 kidclamp once I verify nothing breaks and feature does what it says I will feel satisfied 14:50 kidclamp https://mana-kb.koha-community.org/ 14:50 ashimema :) 14:50 kidclamp all info is on the bug 14:50 ashimema ta 14:50 kidclamp holding off on pushing other things until I work through this 14:50 JesseM bug17047 14:50 kidclamp but will get to acadaemy and bugs asap 14:51 kidclamp bug 17047 14:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17047 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Passed QA , Mana Knowledge Base : share data 14:51 cait I've been trying to get into ILL patches, will continue asap 14:52 ashimema cait++ 14:53 kidclamp that's all for me at the moment 14:53 kidclamp oh, bug 18736 14:53 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18736 critical, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Problems in order calculations (rounding errors) 14:53 kidclamp I updated this, could use some eyes and opinions 14:56 kidclamp moving on? 14:57 ashimema yeah 14:59 ashimema #topic Kohacon19 Update 14:59 ashimema we sorta did that i the announcement 14:59 ashimema I don't have anything to add 14:59 caroline yoohoo! Kohacon! 14:59 barton #info Barton Chittenden, Bywater 15:00 khall #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions 15:00 cait I think it would be nice to get regular updates during th emeeting sas we have done in the past 15:00 cait I think the change in format hit us a bit unexpectedly 15:01 caroline what is the new format? 15:02 cait it's not 3-1-3 15:02 cait but somehoe 4+1, but not sure how the hackfest and conf parts split 15:03 ashimema I'm not party to the conversations now 15:03 caroline it says parallel, so conf at the same time as hackfest maybe? and you choose which one you want to go 15:03 cait #link https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/KV7BGKT 15:04 ashimema but last I was I 'think' the idea was midday monday -> midday wednesday for conference 15:04 ashimema then midday wednesday -> thursday afternoon workshops 15:04 ashimema then friday being the off day 15:06 calire perhaps we just ask if we can have an update at the next meeting :) 15:06 caroline +1 15:07 cait +1 15:07 ashimema +1 15:07 cait moving on? 15:08 kidclamp +1 15:09 ashimema go for it 15:10 * ashimema has to scarper for school run 15:11 ashimema being that kohacon is eu this time.. I imagine a preference for working hours uk/ireland if we want them to attent the next meeting.. sorry 15:11 * ashimema runs to car 15:12 kidclamp #topic Next meeting 15:13 kidclamp February 13, 19 UTC? 15:13 caroline is that good for uk? a bit late maybe? 15:14 wizzyrea 19's not a terrible hour 15:14 wizzyrea also hi 15:14 caroline ok 15:15 caroline whatever is good with me, I just wanted to make sure, as ashimema said to have a time where dublin ppl can be here 15:18 caroline I would suggest 14utc 15:19 kidclamp sorry, was ion another meeting 15:19 kidclamp I think we try to go between 11 and 20 roughyl caroline, alternating 15:19 kidclamp this one is on the earlier so next should be later 15:19 caroline ok no problem! 15:19 kidclamp so NZ can at least think about attending without waking up at ungodly hours 15:21 kidclamp #info Next meeting: 13 February 2019, 19 UTC 15:21 kidclamp #endmeeting 15:21 huginn Meeting ended Wed Jan 16 15:21:17 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 15:21 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_16_january_2019.2019-01-16-14.11.html 15:21 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_16_january_2019.2019-01-16-14.11.txt 15:21 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_16_january_2019.2019-01-16-14.11.log.html 15:21 kidclamp Ah, i see now carloine 15:21 kidclamp perhaps we can poke them for email update at least 15:21 kidclamp sorry ashimema 15:22 ashimema No worries 15:22 ashimema Sorry, was driving 15:42 * oleonard would very much have preferred being at this meeting than the one he was at instead 15:48 eythian I have four days of this week with no meetings at all. I'm getting so much done. 16:03 vero users with more loans by type of category, as I generate the report from sql, thank you very much 16:03 oleonard vero did you check this page? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library 16:05 oleonard cait: You do updates to the web site? 16:08 ashimema she can 16:08 ashimema I can too.. if only I can access it.. I still get 500 errors 16:08 ashimema I think there's a load balancer or something out there that doesn't like me 16:08 ashimema wow 16:09 ashimema even going via a vpn.. the front page works.. but other pages still 500 16:09 ashimema odd 16:10 oleonard I would like to send someone a replacement version of that image on the front page. The one which is there is way too big. 16:19 cait oleonard: JesseM suggested using the one from portland 16:19 cait could i forward that to you for optimization before i put it on? 16:19 oleonard Sure 16:25 cait oleonard++ 16:41 magnuse gah, missed the meeting 16:41 magnuse i'd like to take the last patch off bug 8437 and create a separate bug for it - are there any rules about doing things like that? apart from keeping the atrribution to the patch author, of course? 16:41 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8437 critical, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Large database backups and large exports from export.pl fail under plack 16:42 oleonard It's the wild west out here magnuse, you make your own rules 16:43 magnuse yeeeehaaaw! 17:01 Ve Users with more loans, in sql, Thanks 17:02 Ve I can not find it in the report library 17:06 magnuse Ve: what do you mean by "more loans"? 17:10 Ve loans 17:11 Ve cantidad de préstamos de los usuarios 17:23 reiveune bye 18:23 hh I try to run a report and it comes out in my browser. The connection has been restarted. Is the server problem? Thank you 18:56 cait meeting in 5 18:59 ashimema I've sent my apologies on the agenda but will send them here and now too.. afraid I've just walked into a school meeting. 18:59 cait oops 18:59 ashimema Rmaint update from me would be much the same as the one I gave for the general meeting earlier today 19:00 cait noted 19:01 JesseM Me too ;) 19:02 cait so noone is here? :) 19:02 cait or let's ask differently, wh ocan attend the meeting? 19:02 cait caroline, meeting? :) 19:03 caroline ah! sorry! I'm in training :( 19:03 cait n oworries 19:03 cait it seems everyone is somewhere else 19:03 kidclamp I am here 19:03 cait w ewill have the meeting if at least 5 people are here 19:03 cait ok, now we are 2 19:03 kidclamp khall? 19:03 wahanui i heard khall was here :) 19:04 davidnind I'm here.. 19:04 cait 3 19:04 cait rangi: ? 19:04 khall here 19:05 cait 4 19:06 cait really.. that's all 19:06 cait = 19:06 cait ? 19:06 cait we should use that chance and rename Koha 19:06 cait or do something else fun 19:07 davidnind hehe 19:07 JesseM Im here :) 19:07 kidclamp that's 5 19:07 cait ok .. 19:07 cait kidclamp: do you want to start? 19:07 cait i will take over 19:08 kidclamp #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 16 January 2019 19:08 huginn Meeting started Wed Jan 16 19:08:11 2019 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:08 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:08 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_16_january_2019' 19:08 kidclamp #chair cait 19:08 huginn Current chairs: cait kidclamp 19:08 kidclamp #topic Introductions 19:08 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 19:08 JesseM #info Jesse Maseto, ByWater, USA 19:08 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 19:09 khall #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions 19:09 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 19:09 kidclamp #topic Announcements 19:10 cait QA and sign off academy patches! 19:10 kidclamp Kohacon 2019 call for proposals is open 19:11 kidclamp #info Academy ish papneing, please sign off and QA patches 19:11 JesseM Rmaint 18.05.x is going great! 19:11 kidclamp #info KohaCon 2019 call for proposals open 19:12 kidclamp #link https://www.interleaf.ie/kohacon19/ KohaCon2019 website 19:12 kidclamp #topic Updates from Release Manager (19.05) 19:12 kidclamp I am working on testing Mana and providing feedback to Alex - I want to push this early so appreciate any other eyes before I do so :-) 19:13 kidclamp Will hold off on pushing while I test but wil ctach up to bugs and academy asd soon as I can 19:13 kidclamp Thanks to all for their hard work, accounts and other things moving along nicely 19:13 kidclamp koha++ 19:13 kidclamp Alll for me 19:13 kidclamp #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 19:14 kamar Hello everyone 19:15 kidclamp #info 18.11 is coming alon, see notes form Koha meeting this morning 19:15 kamar I need to know if Koha can be install on Ubuntu Live ser 19:15 kidclamp #info 18.05 is going great 19:15 JesseM Working hard to keep up with Martin. :) But things are going great with 18.05.x 19:15 kidclamp #topic Updates from the QA team 19:15 cait kamar: yes, koha is fine on ubuntu. we are currently in a meeting, can you ask later? 19:16 kidclamp cait, all yours 19:16 cait ah 19:16 cait sec 19:16 josef_moravec #info Josef Moravec 19:16 josef_moravec sorry being late 19:16 cait so, we got the bad bugs down from 20 to 16 currently, but the queue is pretty full - 100 19:16 kamar I need to know if Koha can be install on Ubuntu Live server 19:17 cait 70 2 days ago... so calling out to the QA team to help fix that :) 19:17 cait 38 of those are bugs, so it would be good to take of those for the upcoming maintenance releases 19:17 kidclamp #info the queue is growing, please help with bugs especially for maintenance releases 19:18 cait we've got quite a bit of ILL and Elastic patches waiting too - anyone willing to help there is also welcome. Second sign offs are often good too - they make us more confident 19:18 kidclamp #info ES and ILL patches need attention as well 19:18 cait hm and recently SIP activity too 19:19 cait need someone for SIP :) 19:19 cait that's it from me 19:19 * kidclamp *cough* ashimema *cough* khall *cough* 19:19 kidclamp #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 19:19 khall can do kidclamp , just remind me ;) 19:20 kidclamp #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Public_patrons_password_endpoint_RFC REST API - Public route to change patron's password 19:20 kidclamp tcohen has asked for a vote 19:20 kidclamp any questions? 19:21 cait i was thinking password_2 might be confusing 19:21 cait maybe password_repeated? 19:21 cait does it make sense anyway to ask for it twice? 19:21 aleisha_ thanks davidnind for testing so many academy patches! 19:21 khall that's what I was thinking 19:21 cait we can't really tell how the GUI will implment 19:21 khall confirming the password twice is a front-end process 19:22 cait yeah 19:22 kidclamp https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22061 19:22 huginn Bug 22061: enhancement, P5 - low, 19.05, tomascohen, Signed Off , Public route to change password 19:22 cait i am fine with the old, it might make things easier 19:22 cait leave koha to verify 19:22 khall I think it's fine to have both there as well. It could make the form data directly pass-through 19:23 cait both = p1 and p1 or old and new? 19:23 khall new twice 19:23 khall we can't require the old password because it may be for a 'forgot your password' system 19:23 josef_moravec I am for repeated new password too,, we can't relly on client implementations... 19:24 cait but they can jus copy it? 19:24 khall cait: yeah, that was my point too 19:24 khall but in the end it does no harm 19:24 cait maybe mostly a question of what is required 19:24 cait i think the old password might be a good point 19:25 cait if it's a password forget process 19:25 cait forgotten 19:25 cait this is a little trickier than I expected :) 19:25 josef_moravec and also, if we have new password twice, clients implementation could be simpler... 19:25 kidclamp I think firget would be a separate process 19:25 josef_moravec yes, i think so too 19:26 josef_moravec and Koha should care about it not, some api consumer... 19:26 cait are we ok with password_2 or should we rename? 19:26 * khall has no strong opinion 19:27 cait it made it sound like a separate passwrod to me 19:27 * josef_moravec has no strong opinion too 19:27 cait th efirst... the second 19:27 kidclamp I don't mind either way 19:27 cait that's why i thought password_repeat might be more speaking 19:27 cait but I am ok with keeping it too or let tcohen decide 19:28 kidclamp description makes it clear I think 19:28 kidclamp okay, vote and mention that as a note? 19:28 davidnind make it more meaningful, sounds like naming something document 1, document 2 <-- not that I know anything about naming these things! 19:30 kidclamp Do we agree to adopt the public api for changing the password as outlined here:https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Public_patrons_password_endpoint_RFC with the note that a more detailed attribute name would be aprreciated? 19:30 kidclamp I have to run, just trying to phrase 19:30 kidclamp I support it for the the record 19:30 kidclamp bye 19:31 cait sec 19:31 cait takig over 19:31 cait but my hand fell asleep heh 19:31 cait harder to type 19:32 cait #startvote Do we agree to adopt the public api for changing the password as outlined here:https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Public_patrons_password_endpoint_RFC with the note that a more detailed attribute name would be aprreciated? (yes,no,abstain) 19:32 huginn Begin voting on: Do we agree to adopt the public api for changing the password as outlined here:https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Public_patrons_password_endpoint_RFC with the note that a more detailed attribute name would be aprreciated? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . 19:32 huginn Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 19:32 davidnind too much QAing!:) 19:32 cait #vote yes 19:32 cait more lying on the couch with the laptop :) 19:32 davidnind #vote yes 19:32 josef_moravec #vote yes 19:32 JesseM #vote yes 19:33 cait ending vote... last chance 19:33 cait #endvote 19:33 huginn Voted on "Do we agree to adopt the public api for changing the password as outlined here:https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Public_patrons_password_endpoint_RFC with the note that a more detailed attribute name would be aprreciated?" Results are 19:33 huginn yes (4): davidnind, cait, JesseM, josef_moravec 19:33 cait ok 19:33 cait anything more for general development? 19:33 cait moving on! 19:34 cait #topic Review of coding guidelines 19:34 cait I suspect tcohen here too 19:34 josef_moravec tcohen++ 19:35 cait it seems a bit incompleate - at least swagger 4 19:36 cait hard to tell for me... but I generally trust tcohen 19:36 cait should we vote? 19:37 davidnind I'd say yes 19:38 josef_moravec the proposed rules does make sense to me, and are not too complicated ;) but it would be great to have these things explicitaly written 19:38 cait #startvote Do we agree on the new coding guidelines Swagger 3.2, 3.3 and 3.4 as outlined on the wiki? (yes,no,abstain) 19:38 huginn Begin voting on: Do we agree on the new coding guidelines Swagger 3.2, 3.3 and 3.4 as outlined on the wiki? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . 19:38 huginn Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 19:38 cait #vote yes 19:39 cait trustng the experts (including josef_moravec) 19:39 josef_moravec #vote yes 19:39 khall #vote yes 19:39 davidnind #vote yes 19:39 JesseM #vote yes 19:39 cait nice 19:39 davidnind what cait said :) 19:39 cait ending vote... last chance 19:39 cait #endvote 19:39 huginn Voted on "Do we agree on the new coding guidelines Swagger 3.2, 3.3 and 3.4 as outlined on the wiki?" Results are 19:39 huginn yes (5): davidnind, cait, JesseM, josef_moravec, khall 19:39 cait great, now i want to see thatmoving forward :) 19:39 cait issomeone aware of when the next meeting should be? 19:40 cait #topic Set time of next meeting 19:41 cait it looks ike we had 2 in december... and 2 in november 19:41 cait so every 2 weeks i guess 19:41 cait January 30 19:41 cait 14 UTC? 19:42 josef_moravec could be 19:42 cait #info Next meeting: 30 January 2019, 14 UTC 19:42 cait #endmeeting 19:42 huginn Meeting ended Wed Jan 16 19:42:30 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 19:42 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_16_january_2019.2019-01-16-19.08.html 19:42 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_16_january_2019.2019-01-16-19.08.txt 19:42 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_16_january_2019.2019-01-16-19.08.log.html 19:42 cait thx all 19:42 davidnind cait++ 19:42 cait @later tell tcohen please read the meeting logs for some discussion abotu the endpoint 19:42 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 19:43 JesseM Night! 21:10 * cait waves to the academy students 21:10 cait great job 21:11 helene Thanks:) 21:11 * jasmine says thank you!! 21:14 cait one tiny thing: if you submit a patch, please assign yourself the bug in the "Assignee" field :) 21:14 cait i've fixed all I came across - but might have missed one. And you are so fast making more 21:36 magnuse academy++ helene++ 21:44 vero at the moment of generating a report, the connection has been restarted, it indicates the browser that I must solve, thanks 21:53 cait that's all from me for today - good night :) 22:05 vero at the moment of generating a report, the connection has been restarted, it indicates the browser that I must solve, thanks 22:29 aleisha_ cait thanks for the reminder about assigning - we'll try to keep on top of that so you don't have to! 23:31 oleonard Hi again #koha 23:31 caroline1 oh hello oleonard! 23:32 caroline1 it's rare you're on this late! 23:32 oleonard Yeah, just felt like popping in to see if anything was going on 23:33 caroline1 it's been pretty quiet afaik 23:46 tallerjoy HI 23:46 * tallerjoy shake it up a bit 23:52 oleonard Hi tallerjoy, long time no see 23:52 tallerjoy yah. i need to put the irc back into 'auto start' on this pc 23:52 oleonard You disappeared into the Slackiverse didn't you 23:53 tallerjoy yes. <not a fan> 23:53 oleonard But ~~* emojis *~~ 23:54 tallerjoy hmmm.... 23:54 tallerjoy ok 23:55 tallerjoy slack feels like the mcdonald's play area of IRC 23:55 caroline1 tallerjoy: lol! 23:56 * oleonard reminds tallerjoy to put her shoes in the cubby before getting on Slack 23:56 tallerjoy ha! 23:57 tallerjoy i am curious how many "person hours" are spent in slack searching for gifs to share via the giphy app. 23:57 tallerjoy so better productivity with communication balanced by less productivity goofing off 23:57 tallerjoy <but the giphys are fun>