Time  Nick          Message
01:53 mint          anybody alive?
04:45 rangi         @later tell ashimema when you have a minute id like to have a chat with you about kohacon19 I have an idea of an interesting speaker (in Dublin) to invite ;)
04:45 huginn        rangi: The operation succeeded.
06:50 fridolin      hi there
06:50 fridolin      Happy New Year, long live Koha
06:52 cait          good morning frido, happy new year :)
06:53 josef_moravec morning #koha and happy new year ;)
07:02 cait          morning josef_moravec, same to you!
07:02 josef_moravec hi cait, how was your christmas time? ;)
07:02 cait          it was nice :)
07:05 cait          how was yours?
07:14 josef_moravec cait: great ;)
07:14 josef_moravec hm, just looking that bug 20447 is signed off, interesting ;)
07:15 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20447 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Signed Off , Add support for MARC holdings records
07:15 cait          heh I saw that :)
07:15 cait          just getting started with a few smaller ones after long vacation
07:19 josef_moravec cait: I understand
07:20 josef_moravec cait: I have to finish one migration first today ;)
07:25 cait          good luck!
07:27 cait          bbl
07:31 Archie^       hello everyone!
07:31 Archie^       hope you had a good new years eve!
07:43 reiveune      hello
07:44 reiveune      happy new year
07:47 Archie^       Does anyone know is it possible to load marc records via bulkmarcimport so it stages ISSN isteand of ISDN?
07:48 Archie^       right now i see option -i, -isbn but there is no -issn in -help screen
07:59 alex_a        Bonjour and happy new year #koha
08:04 Archie^       Hey!
08:08 magnuse       happy new year, #koha!
08:08 magnuse       ...and cait!
08:09 cait          happy new cait? :)
08:09 cait          happy new year magnuse!
08:10 josef_moravec hi magnuse and happy new year ;)
08:10 Archie^       hey cait hey magnuse
08:10 josef_moravec hi Archie^ ;)
08:10 Archie^       hey josef_moravec ;)
08:10 Archie^       guys, you ever staged ISSN records with bulkmarcimport?
08:11 josef_moravec Archie^: I prefer stage_file and commit_file combo ;)
08:11 Archie^       josef_moravec:  i have no knowlage of what you are talking about ;D i only stage via bulkmarcimport and via gui :/
08:11 josef_moravec Archie^: you can than use matching rules defined in koha administration
08:13 josef_moravec Archie^: This one: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/Koha/blob/master/misc/stage_file.pl
08:14 josef_moravec Archie^: it add batch as via gui, visible from gui, but it is called from cli ;)
08:14 Archie^       oh sweet!
08:14 Archie^       i'll give this a try ;D it makes my work so much easyer
08:15 Archie^       do i have to re-index tables after this?
08:16 josef_moravec Archie^: no, it is not needed. You add the batch using stage_file and finally import it via commit_file (similar asi in gui), so the index is updated during commit automatically ;)
08:23 Archie^       josef_moravec: do you know the default directory of koha that contains stage file? it seems that i cant find it in /usr/shar/koha/mics
09:09 josef_moravec Archie^: /usr/share/koha/bin/
09:46 tcohen        morning
09:47 ashimema      morning
09:47 josef_moravec hi tcohen, ashimema ;)
09:47 tcohen        hey josef_moravec
09:47 wahanui       it has been said that josef_moravec is using this "manual" when building packages: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way
09:47 tcohen        hi ashimema :-D
10:01 cait          happy new year ashimema :)
10:02 ashimema      Thanks Cait, back at you
10:02 ashimema      May it be a prosperous one
10:03 cait          fridolin++
10:04 cait          @karma
10:04 huginn        cait: Highest karma: "Joubu" (731), "cait" (652), and "tcohen" (380).  Lowest karma: "-" (-47), "failed" (-40), and "ie" (-38).  You (cait) are ranked 2 out of 902.
10:04 cait          ah, not reset yet
10:04 fridolin      cait: Bonne année
10:04 fridolin      i which the best for all of you
10:05 tcohen        hola cait and fridolin
10:05 cait          happy new year tcohen - you are early today :)
10:05 fridolin      tcohen: salutations
10:05 tcohen        yeah I started at 6 am
10:05 cait          fridolin: 21874 would be good for 17.11 - it's broken there :)
10:05 fridolin      no head pain ?
10:05 fridolin      mm
10:05 tcohen        he
10:05 fridolin      Bug 21874
10:05 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21874 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Encoding broken in list and cart email subjects
10:06 cait          oh
10:06 cait          it is in 17.11 - sorry, only saw the fixed resolved
10:06 fridolin      yep 17.11.13
10:06 cait          reading bug mail
10:06 fridolin      dont hesitate to point wishes or errors ;)
10:06 cait          but better double check first :)
10:29 fridolin      cait: Bug 21065 is it reasonable to skip this DB change in 17.11.x ?
10:29 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21065 blocker, P5 - low, 19.05, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Data in account_offsets and accountlines is deleted with the patron leaving gaps in financial reports
10:29 fridolin      its oldoldstable now we avoid db changes
10:32 cait          iam torn
10:32 cait          i understand you hesitating
10:32 cait          but it#s a real evil thing
10:32 cait          and beginning of year it woudl be nice to have a fix for the coming year
10:32 cait          to have reliable statistics
10:33 cait          we are still on 17.11... so that's why i am biased
10:44 fridolin      yep but its a bit late for this change
10:45 fridolin      it only occures when deleting patrons
10:45 fridolin      this appends more during summer no
10:50 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #132: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/132/
11:05 cait          fridolin: depends on the type of library
11:05 cait          it happens all the time
11:05 cait          a patron can demand being deleted anytime
11:06 fridolin      indeed but in my opinion 17.11 is too old for that
11:06 cait          ok
11:19 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #133: SUCCESS in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/133/
12:47 * kidclamp    waves
12:49 tcohen        hi kidclamp!
12:58 oleonard      Hi #koha
12:59 oleonard      Happy New Year
13:02 calire        hi oleonard
13:02 wahanui       hi oleopard
13:02 calire        hi kidclamp
13:02 calire        hi tcohen
13:04 magnuse       \o/
13:08 oleonard      @wunder 45701
13:08 huginn        oleonard: Athens, OH :: Overcast :: 38F/3C | Wednesday: Generally cloudy. High near 45F. Winds light and variable. Wednesday Night: Cloudy skies. Low 32F. Winds WSW at 5 to 10 mph.
13:08 oleonard      Perfectly normal January weather, yessiree.
13:09 tcohen        hi calire
13:10 tcohen        and oleonard :-D
13:10 tcohen        @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:11 huginn        tcohen: Cordoba, Argentina :: Clear :: 88F/31C | Wednesday: Scattered thunderstorms this morning, then mainly cloudy during the afternoon with thunderstorms likely. High 94F. Winds NE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 80%. Wednesday Night: Thunderstorms likely. Low 64F. Winds S at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 100%.
13:11 oleonard      !
13:11 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #134: UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/134/
13:14 oleonard      Error when trying to 'vagrant up': "The following settings shouldn't exist: default_nic_type"
13:15 oleonard      tcohen do you know what that is about?
13:15 cait          oleonard: update virtualbox
13:15 cait          and then vagrant
13:15 cait          fixed it for me on 2 installations
13:15 cait          there might be another way tho
13:15 tcohen        update vagrant
13:16 tcohen        mtompset added that because of a nasty security warning on the default VBox network driver
13:16 tcohen        but newer vagrant knows about tis new option
13:16 oleonard      That was my plan, but I thought I'd ask while I waited for this unending download of vagrant to complete.
13:17 cait          i think I had to update virtualbox because it was too old for vagrant or so
13:17 cait          you might have a different version to start with
13:19 tcohen        ouch
13:48 cait          tcohen: it went smoothly, not bad
14:24 oleonard      cait dominating the Passed QA stats for 2019
14:26 cait          lead by example? ;)
14:26 cait          my goal is to write some more patches this year... as always. maybe it will happen
14:26 cait          oleonard: i think catalyst acacemy is soon, as Aleisha has been active on the wiki. Maybe you have some clean-up jobs on mind?
14:28 magnuse       cait++
14:31 oleonard      I don't think I have any small stuff on my to-do list cait because I'm like a crow and when I see something shiny I take it.
14:31 cait          heh I understand :)
14:33 oleonard      I will be greedily hoping for some signoffs though
14:43 lukeG         Hello Fridolin
14:44 lukeG         am I giving bugs the right status when I backport them to 18.05??? I leave them as ‘Pushed to Stable’
14:48 cait          when you want the next rmaint to have a look, that's right
14:49 cait          if it's a bug that is only for 18.05 and you know it's not needed below you can set to "resolved fixed"
14:49 cait          if you are not sure, i think pushed to stable is fine
14:53 lukeG         thank you cait
15:24 cait          oleonard++ # just saved a bookmark to your 'it's not a bug report' answer :)
15:25 oleonard      I have it saved to a note on my computer for easy copy and paste :)
15:25 cait          that's the next step :)
15:56 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
15:56 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #135: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/135/
15:58 * ashimema    proposed we 'fix' the status's in bugzilla for that exact issue lukeG.. my proposal even got accepted but never actually implimented yet
15:58 * ashimema    needs to catch rangi for that
16:11 reiveune      bye
16:55 cait          bye #koha!
17:54 cait          oleonard: did you see my comment about the floating toolbars?
17:54 cait          I was wondering if you have an idea or maybe can check if you see the same
17:56 oleonard      I did see it cait and I will test again
17:56 cait          thx - probably it's me, but I tried everything i can think of
18:36 oleonard      So now we're "reposting" bug reports? Ugh.
18:36 oleonard      Bug 22062
18:36 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22062 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Ability to link individual accounts into a family account/specify "family administrator"
18:36 cait          fixed it
18:36 oleonard      cait++
18:36 cait          it's one of those days
18:37 cait          2 support questions and a repost
18:37 oleonard      I think it means a lot of people got a Koha for Christmas?
18:37 cait          lol
18:37 cait          that must be it :)
18:39 cait          is bug 17858 the last javascript one?
18:39 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17858 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Omnibus: Move staff client JavaScript to the footer
18:43 oleonard      cait: the last javascript one?
18:51 cait          oh wrong numbe,r sorry
18:51 cait          the installer
18:51 cait          i only found one linked bug still open
18:58 cait          too slow :)
19:06 oleonard      There are more affected templates cait but not bug reports for them. addbiblio.tt, additem.tt, basketgroups.tt
19:08 oleonard      templates which have embedded javascript generated by cataloging plugins are problematic... there may not be a resolution for those
19:09 oleonard      ...but it is nice to get close to the bottom of the list. Same with the Bootstrap template bugs
19:20 cait          ok :)
20:27 enoch_pi      hey how is everyone?
20:28 cait          good
20:28 cait          :)
20:28 enoch_pi      oh :-) we have life :-)
20:28 cait          there is usually life here during the week
20:29 enoch_pi      lol yeah i tried during the holidays and NOTHING :-P
20:31 cait          most people are online during work hours their time zone
20:32 enoch_pi      ahhh....i see. this library is my pet project not my main work
20:34 cait          what kind of library is it?
20:34 enoch_pi      A Private for fee Specializing in Pagan and New Age along with a few mainstream spiritual books
20:34 enoch_pi      eventually going to do one alongside it for RPG books
20:35 enoch_pi      the fee's are not truly for profit but to cover overheads and pay wages and maintain and expand
20:36 cait          interesting
20:38 enoch_pi      yeah so I was running koha on my laptop locally just fine but now im wanting to put it onto my Rasberry Pi and well the instructions are not quite working
20:40 cait          which instructions do you use?
20:40 enoch_pi      the ones that were made for raspberry pi 3 b+
20:42 enoch_pi      https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_a_Raspberry_Pi_3_B%2B
20:43 cait          hm april 2018, not too old, but quite an old koha version
20:43 cait          17.11 -> 18.05 -> 18.11
20:43 enoch_pi      i run version 18 on linux mint currently
20:44 cait          be careful, there is no 18
20:44 enoch_pi      eh...
20:44 cait          we have 2 versions every year, the second number is the month it's released
20:44 cait          18.05 and 18.11 are very different - each is a version
20:44 enoch_pi      18.11 i believe is what i installed
20:45 cait          that's the newest, from november
20:45 cait          so very very new, but if you just get started that's ok
20:45 cait          i am not really a sysadmin person and have no exp with rasberry - so probably won't be much help there
20:46 cait          but you can always type your question - people usually pop up if osmoene is around and they have an answer
20:46 enoch_pi      well in mint it was as easy as installing apache and then koha and then the web setup
20:46 enoch_pi      in rasp this is what i get https://pastebin.com/QGx2nKL2
20:48 Dyrcona       enoch_pi: You want "install" between apt-get and koha-common.
20:48 Dyrcona       heh. Didn't read far enough. :)
20:48 enoch_pi      uhm
20:49 enoch_pi      yeah i made an error but if you check the second attempt i typed it correctly
20:49 cait          hm looks like there is a problem with libnet-oauth2-authorizationserver-perl
20:49 Dyrcona       What happens if you do `sudo apt-get install libnet-oauth2-authorizationserver-perl`? then try the previous command again?
20:49 enoch_pi      yeah it cascades to demanding a TON of other perl modules and i CPAN'd it last night and still same issue
20:50 Dyrcona       Well, if the deb depends on another deb, it won't work if the module is installed from CPAN. It requires the deb, so the deb must be installed. Aren't packages great?
20:52 Dyrcona       enoch_pi: This *may* help: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/389156/how-to-fix-held-broken-packages
20:52 enoch_pi      oi see that is a step forward
20:53 enoch_pi      okay hold on gonna work their steps
20:53 cait          Dyrcona++ :)
21:03 enoch_pi      yeah same issue
21:04 cait          which step and which error?
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21802: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb98450172cbd446768375cd9374962447df7cfe>
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 22034: Handle default framework for MARC view with framework <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=54e295e4c14e3d2b3959e3185a54447a9b90d945>
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21802: Align fieldset with accordion headers when editing notice's template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a68a662ee4b7b2aebdb313ee33f9d9ca54e2c22>
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 22007: Generated with add_missing_filters.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=464bf007d60bb647ce3dda183134363962c76209>
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 22007: Also handle Price and HtmlTags <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8fa74ab02d037d059e4bf78b74232aeba219212>
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 22007: Handle safe filtered output (KohaDates) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=912fb42458a422248986c74fd8a1fd92df531fb5>
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 22007: Remove html filters when KohaDates called with a parameter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d49ea039c981ee73085c70b326ea47c29bee0ba>
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21990: Replace dialog .error with .alert <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d44a42e417b563f501f038cc5226eda0f5fb3ca5>
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21817: Fix 2 failing tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8748d801099e1c4e4f8f845a69d1cdba4a21e7aa>
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21578: Terminology changes in patron's account section (staff) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad0575ab80ab550ac936ece84e08cdcf458c9159>
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21928: (bug 18789 follow-up) Fix CircAutoPrintQuickSlip=clear <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a440f6a4102f73073c76a31ad2d015be2af8ef48>
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21909: Add return type explanation to POD <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=94bdfc2beee9da1ed3b8159e211272a42d01e4fa>
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21909: Make Koha::Account::outstanding_* preserve context <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3ff671f215398ad51a6ce550c33c0c6ca3aa30a>
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21909: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=85c474e59761e2bb27d9921180752249b5edca9e>
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21817: Centralize the mock of userenv from tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca124b5c14a3f0a34fafe307fec9ade4008eaa41>
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16939: (follow-up) Adding missing bracket <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1ae3036e63db085a0e23d1619c44b0b8e91673a>
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16939: (follow-up) Correction for orderreceive.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=364c0d6bc56fc1cb5e6721e2ae3e62be98109a60>
21:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16939: Making all 'add to basket' actions buttons <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f3011690fc24dae2c39c2afd4d13afb43ebaecc4>
21:05 cait          a kidclamp in the background :)
21:07 enoch_pi      kidclamp?
21:07 wahanui       kidclamp is the guy with an amazing moustache
21:07 kidclamp      hi
21:07 wahanui       kia ora, kidclamp
21:08 enoch_pi      I purged the libs as the stack exchange suggested then attempted the apt-get install of koha-common and had the same result as https://pastebin.com/QGx2nKL2
21:09 kidclamp      hmm..did we add a dep that didn't get packaged?
21:09 rangi         nope, at least when i upgraded 8 18.05 to 18.11 it worked with a dist-upgrade just fine
21:10 rangi         it could be an architecture thing though
21:10 enoch_pi      pi@raspberrypi:~ $ uname -m
21:10 enoch_pi      armv7l
21:10 enoch_pi      pi@raspberrypi:~ $
21:10 kidclamp      you did say mint? or did I imagine?
21:11 enoch_pi      mint is what my laptop is running and it installed easy peasy
21:11 enoch_pi      im migrating to raspbian (rPI 3 B+) so I can get a larger SSD installed on the laptop
21:11 kidclamp      sorry, end of the day, low on brain juice
21:11 enoch_pi      i totally understand
21:12 rangi         can you apt-get install the one it is complaining about enoch_pi ?
21:13 enoch_pi      it cascades to another perl module which then cascades to 2 more and so one and so forth
21:13 kidclamp      bye for now all
21:13 enoch_pi      it feels like a repo is not pulling the dependencies
21:13 enoch_pi      by kidclamp
21:13 rangi         yep, you will probably just have to work your way through apt-get installing them
21:14 enoch_pi      i get stuck on the cryptx mod
21:14 rangi         whats the full package name
21:14 rangi         cos that will be what is actually breaking the dependencies
21:15 enoch_pi      this is the first koha-common : Depends: libnet-oauth2-authorizationserver-perl but it is not going to be installed
21:15 rangi         (and it will be an arm thing, because it works fine on i386 and amd64)
21:15 rangi         yeah, the one that you actually get stuck on
21:15 rangi         because if you apt-get that one on, you can move on eh?
21:15 rangi         we need to know the one that you can't install
21:15 enoch_pi      E: Package 'libcryptx-perl' has no installation candidate
21:16 rangi         yeah thats not one we package
21:16 enoch_pi      they all stop on the depends
21:16 rangi         thats in debian itself
21:16 enoch_pi      irony lol
21:16 rangi         yeah, becaue they all depend on that one
21:17 enoch_pi      eh any ideas on where to locate it?
21:17 rangi         something mint hasnt moved over to it's arm repo i bet
21:17 rangi         hmmm
21:18 enoch_pi      okay the pi is running debian
21:18 enoch_pi      er ras[bian
21:18 enoch_pi      raspbian
21:18 rangi         then yeah there is no arm71 package
21:18 enoch_pi      my laptop runs mint
21:18 rangi         you could try grabbing it from buster
21:18 enoch_pi      buster?
21:18 rangi         https://packages.debian.org/buster/libcryptx-perl
21:19 rangi         (current debian testing repo)
21:19 * Dyrcona     was gonna share the link to the sid package.
21:19 enoch_pi      they have an armhf
21:19 enoch_pi      i will go for it
21:19 rangi         yep
21:20 enoch_pi      let me get it added up
21:20 rangi         id just get the deb
21:20 rangi         and dpkg -i it
21:20 rangi         or you will end up running the whole of test
21:20 Dyrcona       Yeah. What rangi said. ...:)
21:20 enoch_pi      okay walk me through im still transitioning into linux from windows only been using it for about 60 days and I have a FAST learning curve
21:21 enoch_pi      i need to add the deb repo to my sources
21:21 rangi         nope you don't want to do that
21:21 enoch_pi      lol
21:22 rangi         because then if you do an upgrade you will be running testing
21:22 rangi         you want to just wget the the .deb file
21:22 rangi         and then sudo dpkg -i that file
21:22 rangi         and hope it doesnt depend on other stuff not in stable
21:23 enoch_pi      wget the link you shared?
21:23 rangi         look at that link, then scroll down to where it lists the architectures, click on the one you want
21:23 rangi         then that should gvie you a page full of links
21:24 rangi         pick one close (networkwise) to you :)
21:24 enoch_pi      ahhh
21:24 enoch_pi      then add that to the source
21:24 cait          no
21:24 rangi         nope
21:24 rangi         :)
21:24 rangi         copy that link
21:24 enoch_pi      lol
21:24 rangi         then on your raspberry pi
21:24 rangi         wget thelink
21:24 cait          wget downloads
21:25 rangi         that will download the .deb file
21:25 enoch_pi      got the deb
21:25 enoch_pi      :-)
21:25 rangi         sweet
21:25 rangi         no sudo dpgk -i debname
21:25 rangi         dpkg even
21:25 enoch_pi      oh that is an evil name
21:26 rangi         (this is what apt-get does in the background, plus some md5 checks etc too)
21:27 enoch_pi      well it was not tooo bad. it states my perl is out of date along with my perlapi and i need to install libc6:armhf
21:27 rangi         hmm, that may set of a chain of mess
21:27 rangi         ok, lets try another way :)
21:28 Dyrcona       enoch_pi: Type `uname -p` on your raspberry.
21:28 enoch_pi      https://pastebin.com/J73v26EX
21:28 enoch_pi      p or m?
21:29 Dyrcona       never mind. :)
21:29 rangi         yeah that all looks good, its gonna want to upgrade too much stuff though
21:29 enoch_pi      m gives me armv7l
21:29 rangi         so we can try building the package ourselves for stable
21:29 rangi         wanna learn how to debian package perl modules ? :)
21:29 enoch_pi      sure lol
21:29 rangi         first we need
21:29 rangi         sudo apt-get install dh-make-perl
21:31 enoch_pi      just uhm...lemme pastebin
21:31 * Dyrcona     has to go. Good luck, enoch_pi! You're in good hands.
21:31 enoch_pi      https://pastebin.com/Wzf402v3
21:32 rangi         ahh its that half installed libcryptx
21:32 enoch_pi      does raspbian not come with perl preinstalled?
21:32 rangi         try sudo apt-get -f install
21:32 rangi         it does
21:32 rangi         that .deb whats a newer version is all
21:33 rangi         apt-get -f install should remove our half installed attempt
21:33 rangi         and then we can try install dh-make-perl again
21:33 enoch_pi      i feel like i will need more than 32 gigs lol
21:33 rangi         naw, these ones are pretty small
21:34 enoch_pi      shhh you are destroying my dreams of finding a reason to buy bigger storage lol
21:35 enoch_pi      okay we are installed
21:35 rangi         sweet
21:35 rangi         now we wanna build the package as root
21:35 rangi         so
21:35 rangi         sudo bash
21:35 rangi         to get us a root shell
21:35 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_U18 build #121: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/121/
21:35 rangi         then
21:35 enoch_pi      bashed
21:36 rangi         dh-make-perl  --build --cpan CryptX
21:36 enoch_pi      here we go
21:36 rangi         it may need some dependencies to build, it will let you know, and we can apt-get them on (fingers crossed)
21:37 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
21:37 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9 build #631: FIXED in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/631/
21:37 rangi         but hopefully it will run through, and build us a new .deb, for our architecture and our version of debian
21:37 enoch_pi      saweet
21:38 enoch_pi      this is my goal in life. to be able to build such pieces of art and help others do the same... just as you are doing with me
21:41 * cait        is thinking she should bookmark this chat log
21:41 enoch_pi      could be useful
21:44 enoch_pi      brb
21:55 enoch_pi      okay so how will i know when it is done?
21:56 rangi         it should say done
21:56 rangi         --- Done
21:56 enoch_pi      https://pastebin.com/vrs8akRP
21:56 rangi         yep now you shoudl have file libcryptx-perl_0.063-1_armhf.deb
21:57 rangi         which you should be able to dpkg -i
21:57 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D8 build #143: SUCCESS in 21 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/143/
21:57 enoch_pi      okay so safe to ctrl-c to get back to prompt?
21:58 rangi         yep
21:58 rangi         it should be at the prompt anyway tho, just as root
21:58 rangi         so ctrl-d to logout as root
21:59 enoch_pi      already on it
21:59 rangi         once you have installed that new package, you could try apt-get install koha-common again
21:59 enoch_pi      https://pastebin.com/Qp2kpp4e
21:59 rangi         sweet installed it
22:00 enoch_pi      YAY!!!!
22:00 * cait        keeps fingers crossed
22:00 enoch_pi      so far so good
22:00 enoch_pi      637MB
22:00 enoch_pi      where do we want to put that deb file?
22:01 enoch_pi      im all about sharing the wealth
22:02 rangi         we can't really put it anywhere, but you might want to update the wiki page to say that if they want to run 18.11 they should try installing buster or later version of debian
22:02 rangi         or, backport the package as we have done
22:02 enoch_pi      backport?
22:04 rangi         someone had done the work of getting it ready to be packaged already, when packaging it for buster
22:04 rangi         we just used their work to build it for stretch
22:05 enoch_pi      hmm sounds like it is something i need to at least store in a safe place in the even i want to install koha on a different pi
22:05 rangi         you'd probably want to just build it again
22:06 rangi         but you could store it just in case
22:06 rangi         (it builds a package quite specific to the machine its on, if we were doing this to share we would use something like pbuilder or some other way to build it clean)
22:07 enoch_pi      well the machine would not change as long as the debian is stretch...so maybe it will be good for 6 months?
22:07 rangi         yep
22:08 enoch_pi      my goal is to give koha its own raspberry in the near future
22:09 enoch_pi      now stupid question...where is that file saved at?
22:09 enoch_pi      i think i found it
22:11 enoch_pi      installing mariadb now
22:22 enoch_pi      should i mess with plack at this time?
22:23 rangi         you'll want to get it running under plack eventually, it really isn't usable otherwise, but you might want to just check yu can get the page up once to start
22:28 MaurioBR      Hello friends, i want to ask a quick question. I have koha 16.05 an i wanto to update to koha 18 (last stable version), should i update to version 17 first?
22:29 enoch_pi      i just finished the configs for apache i willnow verify that koha is up
22:30 cait          hi MaurioBR, there is no 17 and 18, there is 2 versions each year, so it's 16.05, 16.11, 17.05, 17.11, 18.05, 18.11
22:30 cait          18.11 is very new still
22:30 cait          you might want to jump to 18.05 first
22:33 MaurioBR      Hello Cait. Yes i want to jump to 18.05, should I install the 17.xx versions???
22:33 cait          no you don't need to
22:34 MaurioBR      tahnk you, is there any documentation about the procedure to update?
22:43 cait          how was your koha installatoin installed?
22:43 cait          did you use packages?
22:45 MaurioBR      yes
22:46 cait          you need to update your sources and then run sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get update install i think
22:47 enoch_pi      ugh short term memory sucks
22:48 cait          here is some info: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Versioning
22:48 cait          and here: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian#Follow_a_suite:_stable.2C_oldstable_.E2.80.A6
22:50 MaurioBR      thank you i will read...
22:50 cait          i think you cant to use 18.05
22:50 cait          deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha 18.05 main
22:50 cait          want to use :)
22:51 cait          then you will get the bugfix releases but not the big version change without intending to
22:51 MaurioBR      thankyou  Cait (y)
22:52 cait          sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install (typoed above)
23:04 enoch_pi      okay so i need more practice setting up the hosts or someting because im having trouble...
23:04 enoch_pi      i feel like a rookie today
23:05 cait          apache always gives me trouble...
23:06 enoch_pi      what ios your work around because the localhost goes to a koha maintenance page and the server names i created simply dont work
23:06 cait          sorry, not good with that, might want to catch rangi later
23:06 cait          where are you located?
23:06 enoch_pi      kansas
23:07 cait          ah ok
23:07 cait          @wunder Konstanz
23:07 huginn        cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Partly Cloudy :: 32F/0C | Wind Chill: 27F/-3C | Thursday: Sunshine in the morning followed by cloudy skies during the afternoon. Colder. High 32F. Winds light and variable. Thursday Night: Overcast. Low 29F. Winds light and variable.
23:07 cait          (i should be asleep ;) )
23:07 enoch_pi      LOL why aint you?
23:07 cait          working on something :)
23:07 enoch_pi      oh like me lol
23:08 enoch_pi      i must have done something right lol i froze the pi
23:14 enoch_pi      i think i broke my pi lol
23:21 cait          good night #koha
23:21 cait          enoch_pi: hope you can fix it!
23:22 enoch_pi      its on the gui end i cant get to a broswer because the panel has vanished. it appears to be a vnc thing
23:32 enoch_pi      the good news is i have the problem child on a seperate disk now sooooo if i have to do a fresh install...i can