Time Nick Message 23:15 caroline good night everybody! 22:15 eythian Joubu: much! 22:06 Joubu hope you are feeling better! 22:03 huginn Bug 21892: minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, RESOLVED FIXED, Robin Sheat is not a typo 22:03 eythian https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21892 phew, it's resolved! 21:21 JesseM Thanks :) 21:16 ashimema Hehe.. slightly too late JesseM.. no worries.. we said you guys were picking things up nicely. 21:08 JesseM Hi #koha 21:07 ashimema Oops 21:05 bag ah 9th of Jan is Pauls birthday (mine also ;) ) 20:43 davidnind oops - wrong window! 20:42 davidnind :wq 20:42 davidnind Catch you all later, off to carry on with my day job! 20:41 kidclamp davidnind++ 20:41 * ashimema scarpers..:) 20:41 thd Daylight savings time was not part of the old survey but interpolation could be done for guessing. 20:41 davidnind :-D 20:41 ashimema :) 20:41 caroline thx davidnind! 20:41 ashimema davidnind++ 20:41 davidnind Thanks for putting up with my chairing! 20:41 ashimema thanks for chairing davidnind :) 20:41 Joubu #info Next meeting: 9 January 2019, 14 UTC 20:41 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_5_december_2018.2018-12-05-20.22.log.html 20:41 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_5_december_2018.2018-12-05-20.22.txt 20:41 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_5_december_2018.2018-12-05-20.22.html 20:41 huginn Meeting ended Wed Dec 5 20:41:00 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 20:41 davidnind #endmeeting 20:40 Joubu #info Next meeting: 9 January 2019, 14:00 UTC 20:40 davidnind Thanks everyone! 20:40 ashimema ta 20:40 kidclamp or least unpopular 20:40 * ashimema couldn't remember what 'the other time' was :) 20:40 kidclamp the ld survey is gone, I think it was 14 and 20 the most popular 20:40 davidnind #info Next meeting: 9 January 2019 14:00 UTC 20:40 huginn Bug 21346: major, P5 - low, ---, cbrannon, Needs Signoff , Clean up dialogs in returns.pl 20:40 CrispyBran https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21346 20:40 thd 14.00 UTC ++ 20:40 ashimema brill 20:40 kidclamp we usually alternate 20:40 kidclamp 14 UTC works for me 20:39 ashimema any thoughts on time kidclamp? 20:39 caroline +1 20:39 ashimema brill 20:39 davidnind Okay, we'll make it a week later - 9 January. Is the time okay? 20:39 ashimema I'll be here in theory.. 20:38 thd Low attendance may be likely on 2 January. 20:38 kidclamp ++ 20:38 ashimema I think wait a week to be safe 20:38 kidclamp will be right after holidays, but should be around 20:38 davidnind Is 2 January 2019 (!!) 14:00 UTC okay, or should we make it a week later? 20:37 davidnind #topic Next meeting 20:37 davidnind If not, we'll push on and set the time for the next meeting.... 20:36 ashimema not that I'm aware of :) 20:35 davidnind Any other agenda items anyone wants to add? 20:35 davidnind #info Things are a bit quieter after the 18.11 release, new release team members getting up to speed, and new bugs will start to be pushed soon 20:34 bag tcohen++ 20:33 ashimema Need to get Jenkins to reflect the new branch and I've 'booked' a slot with tcohen to walk watch him whilst he does that :) 20:33 kidclamp 18.05 maintainers are getting up to speed 20:33 ashimema From me, I've not started pushing yet, but am about to 20:32 kidclamp Currently pushign only bugs, will look at enh soon, traditional one month wiating period 20:32 davidnind We may have covered some of this, any additional info to add from the release managers and maintainers? 20:31 davidnind #topic Update on releases 20:30 bag :P 20:30 davidnind Great! 20:30 kidclamp :-b 20:30 kidclamp (but not because bag said so) 20:30 ashimema awesome :) 20:30 kidclamp yup, open to the community 20:30 davidnind #info Town Hall: How to Use the Koha Sandboxes https://bywatersolutions.com/education/town-hall-how-to-use-the-koha-sandboxes 20:30 bag If I have any opinion on it - it’s available for all 20:29 davidnind I assumed it was since it was on the web! 20:29 ashimema either way.. I've been prepping the sandbox servers on this side of the pond in case they wanted some overflow capacity ;) 20:29 ashimema is that webinar open beyond the ByWater customers as an audience.. I wasn't sure from he anouncement on twitter ;)? 20:28 ashimema #info 18.11.x and 18.05.x permissions have been configured to reflect the new release team for 19.05 20:28 davidnind ByWater Solutions has a webinar coming up on how to use the new Koha sandboxes 20:28 ashimema #info 18.11.x has been branched 20:28 ashimema #info 18.11.00, 18.05.06, 17.11.12 were all successfully released 20:27 davidnind Thanks to all those involved for the 18.11 release, and particularly the release manager + QA team! 20:27 ashimema New branches are up and permissions have been moved around for the new team :) 20:26 davidnind Pretty big announcement then! :) 20:26 bag #info Brendan Gallagher - ByWater 20:26 ashimema 18.11 got released ;) 20:26 caroline 18.11 came out since last meeting, no? 20:26 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 20:25 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize - PTFS Europe 20:25 davidnind Anyone got any announcements they would like to share? 20:25 ashimema My connection is lousy 20:25 davidnind #topic Announcements 20:23 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 20:22 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 20:22 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro 20:22 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 20:22 davidnind #topic Introductions 20:22 caroline Go davidnind++ 20:22 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_5_december_2018' 20:22 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:22 huginn Meeting started Wed Dec 5 20:22:03 2018 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:22 davidnind #startmeeting General IRC meeting 5 December 2018 20:21 ashimema Yeay 20:21 davidnind right, a short meeting is a good meeting - lets get started! 20:21 kidclamp sorry 20:21 * kidclamp waves 20:21 ashimema I've poked kidclamp on slack too.. just in case.. but he appears to be offline 20:20 thd Not much on the agenda so it should also be a fast meeting 20:19 ashimema Sorry, I'd completely forgotten about the meeting too 20:19 davidnind but if there is not too many people around we can defer to next week maybe? 20:18 ashimema Ooh 20:13 davidnind I'm happy to give it a crack, particularly as not too many people are around it seems! 20:12 davidnind https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Chairing_meetings 20:11 caroline kidclamp? 20:11 davidnind who would like to chair? 20:10 davidnind thd: it is 20:10 thd Is the meeting not now? 20:10 davidnind I thought so too.... 20:10 caroline I thought it was now 20:10 davidnind General meteing https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_5_December_2018 20:09 caroline meeting? 19:59 oleonard Bye all, happy meeting 18:45 ashimema Ooh, that could explain the erratic behaviour I was seeing of it passing sometimes, but not others 18:44 Joubu ashimema: not simple at all, it's a cache issue 18:43 ashimema Oh cool.. that would be really helpful.. I wrattled my brain against it for literally a week and just wasn't very Ng anywhere.. I bet it's a simple problem really and I was just looking at it all wrong. 18:42 ashimema Sorry I wasn't much help with the failing 18.05 test yet.. I meant to be there to talk about it but got immediately called into a meeting earlier when we spoke 18:42 Joubu I think I managed to fix the jenkins issue, I am writing an email to explain the problem 18:42 Joubu no worries ashimema! 18:41 ashimema Was on the general after school manic run around when you mentioned me. Just on bedtime duties then I'll be back if you still want anything? 18:40 ashimema Oh, sorry I missed you earlier Joubu 18:28 CrispyBran thanks! 18:28 oleonard If you search the templates for '.on("click",' you'll see examples 18:27 oleonard Instead of adding an onclick attribute to the HTML you define an onclick event in the <script> block or in the relevant linked JavaScript file 18:26 CrispyBran oleonard, what is an alternative to using onclick? 18:16 * CrispyBran waves 18:14 reiveune bye 17:53 maya-dec-18 : - ) 17:53 maya-dec-18 Joubu: thank you ! 17:49 Joubu you need the init-file part from the "Current Solution" section 17:48 maya-dec-18 we did fresh koha installation 18.05.05 ----- do we need to apply steps in wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DBMS_auto_increment_fix ---- or its done (patched) already ? 17:48 Joubu yes 17:48 Joubu maya-dec-18: tes 17:46 maya-dec-18 we did fresh koha installation ----- do we need to apply steps in wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DBMS_auto_increment_fix ---- or its done already ? 17:39 oleonard vero: It sounds like you want the OpacHiddenItems system preference: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/OpacHiddenItems 17:39 caroline WHERE DATE(account_offsets.created_on) =@Date:=<<Date |date>> get me the date picker but 0 results 17:38 caroline Do the runtime variables in the reports module work with dates? 17:38 vero Hide in the opac of the results a type of items 17:35 oleonard I don't understand what you mean by that vero 17:33 vero and to hide an itemtype from preferences 17:33 vero and to hide an itemtype 17:31 oleonard vero: If you're talking about the inventory tool, what you see is what is available. There is no option to limit by itemtype. 17:29 Joubu there is an accumulation of several problems 17:29 JesseM_ Thx Joubu 17:29 Joubu I think I will have a fix soon 17:29 JesseM_ Joubu++ 17:29 Joubu JesseM_: I am on it since this morning 17:28 Joubu vero: it depends on the value of the pref item-level_itypes 17:28 JesseM_ I need some help with the Jenkins builds for 18.05 being unstable 17:27 Joubu Hi JesseM_ 17:27 JesseM_ Perfect. I was looking for both of you 17:27 JesseM_ Hola tcohen 17:27 tcohen JesseM_ 17:27 tcohen hola Jesse 17:27 tcohen hola Joubu 17:26 JesseM_ Hey Joubu 17:26 vero choose the type to obtain the inventory 17:25 vero Yes 17:25 Joubu vero: do you want to list all the item types defined in Koha? 17:22 vero I want to take an inventory for the type of items in koha, please guide me thanks 17:15 vero I want to take an inventory for the type of items in koha, please guide me thanks 17:11 Joubu ashimema, tcohen: around? 16:14 oleonard True. We were using Firefox ESR for that. 16:14 eythian oleonard: IIRC it only worked on older FF versions 16:11 oleonard Anyone here a fan of the JS Print Setup addon for Firefox? It has sadly disappeared from Mozilla's site. 16:10 Joubu and describe the problem as best as you can :) 16:10 Joubu https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/enter_bug.cgi?product=Koha 16:09 librarian never done that before but I can give it a go 16:08 Joubu you can cc me to the bug 16:08 librarian "If the total amount loanable for a given user category is left blank, no limit applies" 16:08 Joubu can you open a bug report? 16:07 librarian with NULL for maxissueqty but that should be fine according to the text...it will be unlimited in that case? 16:07 librarian but there is a rule for user/item 16:06 Joubu branch_borrower_circ_rules, default_branch_circ_rules, default_borrower_circ_rules or default_circ_rules 16:06 Joubu actually, if there is no rule for the user/item, the maxissueqty is picked from another table 16:05 librarian very confusing as it should never hit the all/all rule..... 16:04 librarian ie. it now works as expected for the individual rules that din't work before 16:04 librarian we now added in all our rules again and it seems it's down to now having had an all/all rule? 16:03 librarian we just added all/all while trouble-shooting 16:02 Joubu what is the different with "only having All/All" 16:02 Joubu just before you said you had only 1 rule, "for All users item type book" 15:59 librarian one more observation: Deleting all rules and only having All/All works 15:58 Joubu wait a min, still reading the code 15:57 librarian didn't create any problems before 18.05 15:57 librarian that appears to be the default 15:57 Joubu I agree with you, it's confusing :) 15:56 Joubu that's why you get the message 15:56 librarian it is null 15:56 Joubu select maxissueqty from issuingrules; 15:55 Joubu librarian: what's the value of maxissueqty? 15:49 librarian for All users item type book 15:49 librarian we only have one rule 15:49 librarian after chasing a few false trails we are still stuck with a problem in issuing after and upgrade: "No circulation rule is defined for this user and itemtype combination." 15:48 librarian hi there 14:58 fridolin error 14:58 fridolin Joubu: indeed, this is just for pages not to show "internal server eroor" 14:47 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21150 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Data inconsistencies - item types 14:47 Joubu and why I wrote bug 21150 14:47 Joubu fridolin: I am expecting much more places where it can explode, that's why I would consider it a data problem 14:44 fridolin :D 14:44 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21842 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , always test Koha::ItemType in defined 14:44 fridolin Bug 21842 is waiting for a noble pen to be signedoff 14:36 oleonard ...but I did test it, and it seems to work :) 14:36 * oleonard should have made caroline test the patch instead of himself :P 14:35 caroline sounds like it, glad to know it's not just me :) 14:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21951 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Patron import fails if matching on cardnumber and userid also matches 14:35 oleonard That may be the bug I'm testing now: Bug 21951 14:34 caroline I was checking the box to overwrite patrons and it kept telling me patrons already existed ¬_¬ 14:33 oleonard There are *sometimes* helpful error messages, but not always. 14:33 caroline oleonard: I tried 4 times yesterday and abandoned 14:31 oleonard What's the average number of attempts to successfully import a csv of patrons? 10? 15? 13:51 oleonard Hi caroline 13:48 caroline Good morning! 13:19 oleonard Hi tcohen 13:14 tcohen late morning 12:56 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21950 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Opac search with accented words error 12:56 oleonard Just confirmed Bug 21950 12:39 oleonard Hi #koha 12:24 cait i won't be online so much, but just leave me a later 12:24 cait ere: just let me know - I missed my last 2 qa emails, but looking for what to put in the next one :) 11:52 * ere needs to check to make sure 11:51 ere cait: I think so :) 11:50 kohaputti also reducing one syspref! 11:49 huginn Bug 21572: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Allow checkout an item with reserve that is not yet in waiting state 11:49 kohaputti anybody interested in making the checkout logic unified across different methods like SIP, Koha SCO, intranet: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21572 ? :) 11:48 cait have to go to lunch now - will be back for a bit later 11:48 cait ok, but we are done with the big dependencies? 11:43 ere cait: We want the Z39.50/SRU server so that Zebra won't be needed at all anymore.. 11:42 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13937 new feature, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Needs Signoff , Add a search backend agnostic Z39.50/SRU daemon that can inject item status MARC subfields 11:42 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21084 normal, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, ASSIGNED , Searching for authorities with 'contains' gives no results if search terms include punctuation 11:42 ere cait: Well, I'm working on bug 21084 right now, and since it's reported by you I'm sure you'll like it. :) Then there's the Z39.50/SRU server with bug 13937 that needs SO 11:31 cait ere: I am a bit lost about Elasticsearch again - is there still a bug that should go in next? 11:30 cait hi gveranis_ and all 11:28 gveranis_ hi cait 11:28 cait gveranis_++ :) 11:02 gveranis_ or you can delete one by one from patron ui, but from table you can all 11:01 gveranis_ I think you can do it 10:04 Archie^ Hey guys, so i Fd up my patron import in koha, can i just delete them from borrowers table? or is there another approch to this? 10:01 Archie^ Hi Koha! 09:40 huginn maya-dec-18: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 09:40 maya-dec-18 @magnuse: thanks for sharing such a good info! --- I already imported records and items by exporting envoirnment variables and command --------- perl bulkmarcimport.pl -framework BKS -file file.mrc -------------- Do we need to do any housekeeping after this commands 09:29 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 09:29 ashimema @later tell Joubu Welcome back mate, hope you had a good break.. any chance you could take a look at the failing test on 18.05.x branch for us.. I'm baffled by it and needed some direction from your good self. 09:24 magnuse -b -file -m are the most important ones, i think 09:24 magnuse maya-dec-18: you can do "perldoc /path/to/bulkmarcimport.pl", or have a look at https://perldoc.koha-community.org/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.html 09:23 magnuse maya-dec-18: don't listen to huginn, it's just a bot :-) 09:05 huginn maya-dec-18: I've exhausted my database of quotes 09:05 maya-dec-18 huginn: i have ready marc records 09:01 ashimema good morning #koha 08:51 huginn maya-dec-18: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 08:51 maya-dec-18 huginn: Ok! 08:51 huginn maya-dec-18: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 08:51 maya-dec-18 @magnuse: can you pleases provide some useful "--arguments" to import marc records and items? 08:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #127: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/127/ 08:40 maya-dec-18 magnuse --- where i can find the right --arguments? 08:39 magnuse bonjour paul_p 08:39 paul_p hello #koha 08:35 magnuse or first do "sudo koha-shell instance" and then, when you are in the "Koha shell", do "perl /path/to/bulkmarcimport.pl --arguments" 08:35 magnuse maya-dec-18: sudo koha-shell -c "perl /path/to/bulkmarcimport.pl --arguments" instance 08:30 maya-dec-18 how can i bulk import records and items using koha-shell command and without manually export of envoirnment variables - - - can anyone please help me with command 08:29 magnuse AndrewIsh++ 08:29 AndrewIsh magnuse: OK, no prob, I'll try and get to it today 08:29 AndrewIsh magnuse: ^^ 08:29 magnuse that would be awesome! 08:28 AndrewIsh I'm happy to create a fix for it if you like? 08:28 maya-dec-18 how can i bulk import records and items using koha-shell command - - - can anyone please help me with command 08:27 AndrewIsh So I think we'll probably have to backport that as a separate bug fix 08:27 AndrewIsh This is the patch that fixes it: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=82513&action=diff#a/Koha/REST/V1/Illrequests.pm_sec1 08:27 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18589 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Show ILLs as part of patron profile 08:27 AndrewIsh Right, I know what's going on. I fixed it as part of Bug 18589, anticipating that would be getting into 18.11, but it didn't quite make it 08:26 maya-dec-18 hi 08:26 magnuse i have tested it on master, yes 08:25 AndrewIsh magnuse: Are you talking about master? 08:24 AndrewIsh OK, that's weird, I'm 99% sure I've fixed it. I'll have a look 08:23 magnuse but no patch there 08:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21460 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Filtering ILL requests on borrowernumber does not work 08:23 magnuse ah, bug 21460 08:22 AndrewIsh magnuse: There is a fix for it, one moment 08:18 magnuse AndrewIsh, ashimema: on the patron profile (e.g. /cgi-bin/koha/members/moremember.pl) there is a tab/link for "Interlibrary loans": /cgi-bin/koha/ill/ill-requests.pl?borrowernumber=257 but when you go to that page it shows all ill requests, regardless of patron. do you know if that ever worked? 07:51 alex_a bonjour 07:37 reiveune hello 07:34 fridolin whats on the www 07:33 fridolin hi people 04:06 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 03:52 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 03:52 mtompset @later tell Joubu there patched bug 21947 more fully, but don't know how to test it -- which is why I didn't include them in the first place. 03:52 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 8 hours, 20 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <Joubu> thanks oleonard! :) 03:52 mtompset @seen Joubu 03:36 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 03:36 mtompset @later tell CrispyBran Tagged you in a Facebook status update. :) 03:36 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 03:36 mtompset @later tell tcohen Tagged you in a Facebook status update. :)