Time  Nick           Message
07:22 magnuse        \o/
07:22 * dcook        waves
07:22 dcook          I set up Docker to build Debian packages :D
07:22 dcook          Just writing out the README then posting on Gitlab...
07:29 marcelr        hi #koha
07:45 reiveune       hello
07:51 alex_a         bonjour
07:59 dcook          Time for this guy to go home
08:00 dcook          But if anyone is interested in building Koha Debian packages in Docker... https://gitlab.com/minusdavid/koha-deb-builder-docker
08:19 * andreashm    waves
08:19 andreashm      bah, just missed dcook (I think?)
08:21 * ere          waves back
08:22 andreashm      hi ere!
08:22 ere            hi andreashm! A quiet morning here..
08:23 andreashm      Busy here actually
08:23 ere            Probably everyone awake working on fixing stuff which is good
08:23 ere            :)
08:23 andreashm      How is Helsinki?
08:23 andreashm      a, you meant IRC. Was thinking at your work, irl
08:23 * andreashm    is slow this morning...
08:24 ere            Well, I'm really busy too, but it's good to be able to do some good stuff.. Yeah, meant the channel :)
08:24 ere            andreashm: No worries, it's an early morning :)
08:24 andreashm      hey cait
08:24 cait           hey all
08:24 ere            hi cait!
08:57 fridolin       hi thre
08:58 andreashm      hi fridolin
08:59 fridolin       hello andreashm how is the north  ? winter is coming ?
09:00 andreashm      fridolin: not really, november has been unusually warm. it's below zero now though
09:00 andreashm      how's the south of france?
09:01 fridolin       raining raining
09:01 fridolin       we add a storm but now its ok
09:01 fridolin       warm also around 16°C
09:15 magnuse        @wunder bodø, norway
09:15 huginn         magnuse: Error: I could not find a valid location for: bodø, norway
09:15 magnuse        @wunder bodo, norway
09:15 huginn         magnuse: Bodo, Norway :: Mostly Cloudy :: 36F/2C | Wind Chill: 28F/-2C | Thursday: Mainly cloudy. Temps nearly steady in the mid 30s. Winds SSE at 5 to 10 mph. Thursday Night: Showers early, then becoming windy with a steady light rain overnight. Low near 35F. Winds SW at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 80%.
09:15 andreashm      @wunder stockholm
09:15 huginn         andreashm: Stockholm, Sweden :: Clear :: 0F/-18C | Thursday: Sunny. High 23F. Winds light and variable. Thursday Night: A clear sky. Hard freeze expected. Low 13F. Winds light and variable.
09:15 ashimema       @wonder stevenage, uk
09:15 huginn         ashimema: downloading the Perl source
09:15 ashimema       @wunder stevenage, uk
09:16 huginn         ashimema: Error: I could not find a valid location for: stevenage, uk
09:16 magnuse        andreashm: -18C?
09:16 andreashm      haha... -18 C. In reality it's -2.
09:16 magnuse        ah
09:16 andreashm      That weather service never works for stockholm. =)
09:16 andreashm      always wrong.
09:17 magnuse        fake news!
09:17 andreashm      =)
09:17 andreashm      fake weather!
09:17 ashimema       @wunder Stevenage, United KingdomStevenage, United Kingdom
09:17 huginn         ashimema: Error: I could not find a valid location for: Stevenage, United KingdomStevenage, United Kingdom
09:17 ashimema       grr
09:18 ashimema       I don't like thier API.. it used to be really reliable
09:18 ashimema       now it never finds me
09:18 andreashm      @wunder Stevenage, United Kingdom
09:18 huginn         andreashm: Stevenage, United Kingdom :: Fog :: 34F/1C | Wind Chill: 28F/-2C | Thursday: Cloudy. Periods of light rain this morning. High 44F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 40%. Thursday Night: Mainly cloudy. Patchy drizzle possible. Low around 35F. Winds light and variable.
09:18 andreashm      ashimema: you copied in in twice I think! =)
09:19 ashimema       seems to
09:19 ashimema       it used to know UK = United Kingdom
09:19 ashimema       I tink that's what annoys me more
09:19 andreashm      =)
09:19 * ashimema     is a lazy typer
09:28 cait           @wunder Konstanz
09:28 huginn         cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Overcast :: 37F/3C | Wind Chill: 37F/3C | Thursday: Some clouds this morning will give way to generally sunny skies for the afternoon. High near 45F. Winds light and variable. Thursday Night: Clear to partly cloudy. Scattered frost possible. Low 32F. Winds light and variable.
09:39 magnuse        @wunder marseille
09:39 huginn         magnuse: Marseille, France :: Partly Cloudy :: 57F/14C | Thursday: Partly cloudy skies during the morning giving way to a few showers late. High 62F. Winds SE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 30%. Thursday Night: Rain showers early will evolve into a more steady rain overnight. Low 54F. Winds ESE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Rainfall around a quarter of an inch.
09:39 eythian_       tuxayo: yeah, it's a pretty fun read
09:40 magnuse        @wunder rome, italy
09:40 huginn         magnuse: Rome, Italy :: Partly Cloudy :: 55F/13C | Thursday: Partly cloudy. High 63F. Winds light and variable. Thursday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Low 48F. Winds light and variable.
10:02 eythian_       @wunder amsterdam
10:02 huginn         eythian_: Amsterdam, Netherlands :: Overcast :: 37F/3C | Wind Chill: 31F/-1C | Thursday: Generally cloudy. High 41F. Winds E at 10 to 15 mph. Thursday Night: Clear to partly cloudy. Widespread frost likely. Low near 30F. Winds E at 5 to 10 mph.
11:11 mtj            heya magnuse, did you sort your 100% cpu returns.pl bug..?
12:01 magnuse        mtj: yeah, and you pointed me in the right direction: some libraries had only closed days in the calender, but were issuing books none the less, so poor Koha tried to find some open date in the far future...
12:01 magnuse        we should maybe have a warning against that somewhere
12:02 magnuse        aither in the calendar tool or on the system information tab
12:21 mtj            yes, its a nice idea
12:24 mtj            perhaps, have some maximum date limit, like 1 year in the future
12:26 mtj            ...if no available date is found in the next year, the circ could fail
12:28 mtj            but, i think a general system tab warning, is better than a random circ fail :)
12:30 magnuse        +1
13:43 tuxayo         hi o/
13:43 tuxayo         magnuse: «some libraries had only closed days in the calendar»
13:43 tuxayo         Does it makes sence to do so?
13:46 magnuse        nope, but it is possible ;-)
13:53 cait           it can also be a bug with entering date ranges
13:53 cait           we have seen things happen... but never quite nailed it down
14:03 magnuse        @quote get 123
14:03 huginn         magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
14:03 wahanui        i already had it that way, huginn.
14:04 tuxayo         magnuse: cait : Scary, thanks, I'll try to remember that in case bad stuff like that happens.
14:05 cait           missed the beginning, magnuse - but killed your circ?
14:05 * andreashm    wonders the same
14:08 cait           we haven't seen it in a while, but last year we had some issues with date ranges
14:08 magnuse        cait: it killed the whole server
14:08 cait           nice :P
14:08 cait           we never filed it because we didn't manage to make it reproducable i think
14:09 cait           repeatable holiday on every day in the year
14:09 magnuse        yeah
14:09 magnuse        or every day of the week
14:10 cait           was always single days here
14:10 cait           every day sounda more like a manual mistake
14:10 magnuse        ah, yeah same result i guess
14:11 Freddy_Enrique Hola chicos!
14:12 cait           hm someone seen this "There was an error sending the list.!
14:12 Freddy_Enrique one question, when trying to generate a label, I've seen this message
14:12 Freddy_Enrique https://snag.gy/XylLwB.jpg
14:12 cait           trying to send a list from one of the sandboxes
14:13 cait           Freddy_Enrique: what's in the first cell of the second row?
14:13 cait           it's cut
14:13 cait           could someone test smething for me on a master that sends emails? *asks nicely*
14:13 cait           just sending a list with an umlaut in the name and see if that works in the email
14:14 Freddy_Enrique https://snag.gy/H0CtOv.jpg
14:14 Freddy_Enrique The branch doesnt appear
14:14 Freddy_Enrique uhm...
14:14 cait           that coudl be your problem
14:17 mtompset       Greetings, #koha.
14:17 mtompset       @seen tcohen
14:17 huginn         mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 23 hours, 58 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <tcohen> .-D
14:17 mtompset       Are you here, tcohen? I still can't get your koha-dpkg to work.
14:17 Freddy_Enrique Ill ask the details :)
14:18 mtompset       @seen dcook
14:18 huginn         mtompset: dcook was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 17 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <dcook> But if anyone is interested in building Koha Debian packages in Docker... https://gitlab.com/minusdavid/koha-deb-builder-docker
14:20 tcohen         I am here mtompset
14:20 tcohen         for 4 minutes
14:20 mtompset       I can't run it.
14:21 tcohen         how so?
14:21 mtompset       The build step works fine, as far as I can tell.
14:21 mtompset       The run fails.
14:21 mtompset       Let me cut and paste.
14:21 tcohen         you mean building the image works
14:21 tcohen         but building the packages fails
14:22 pastebot       "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "The history" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/187
14:24 mtompset       second command fails...
14:24 mtompset       having problems cutting aND PASTINBG.
14:27 pastebot       "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "failure to run" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/188
14:49 Freddy_Enrique cait: This is what the cell says: https://snag.gy/cr4v2A.jpg
14:49 Freddy_Enrique Can't call method &quot
14:50 eythian        it's Can't call method "field" on an undefined value
14:50 Freddy_Enrique what does it mean?
14:50 eythian        someone isn't sanity checking something correctly
14:51 Freddy_Enrique does it have anything to do with the database?
14:52 eythian        quite likely, yes.
14:52 cait           if you have missing values it could
14:52 cait           every items hould have a holdingbranch and homebranch
14:52 eythian        as in, there's some data missing that it expects, or it's trying to load a record and failing, that sort of thing.
14:52 cait           the other screenshot you showed looked problematic
14:55 Freddy_Enrique OMG...
14:56 mtompset       @later tell tcohen I pasted it as an issue on gitlab.
14:56 huginn         mtompset: The operation succeeded.
14:58 Freddy_Enrique Any recomendation?
14:58 Freddy_Enrique Think gonna use phpmyadmin
15:19 Freddy_Enrique Guys, about the barcodes.. Is there a standar to follow in order to make it?
15:20 Freddy_Enrique I've seen this as a barcodeJL 1216.282-1
15:23 mtompset       Sorry, I'm not knowledgeable in the arcane magiks of librarian stuff. :)
15:46 Freddy_Enrique mtompset: no worries :-D.
15:54 mtompset       Attempting debian buster alpha 3. ;)
15:57 cait           Freddy_Enrique: most barcode I've seen are numerical, without the . and -
15:58 cait           it depends a bit on how you want to print them (barcode font) what you can use
16:09 Freddy_Enrique So, it the end the barcode format doesn't affect anything
16:09 Freddy_Enrique in*
16:10 Freddy_Enrique thanks cait
16:13 cait           not really
16:13 cait           koha doesn't do much with it - i test with all kinds of invented barcodes all the time
16:13 cait           including umlauts and otehr weird things
16:21 * mtompset     grumbles about bug 18993
16:21 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18993 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, RESOLVED FIXED, Bump libtest-simple-perl to 1.302073
16:24 mtompset       This is why I can't roll packages on jessie or stretch any more.
16:24 mtompset       because my perl isn't 5.26
16:24 mtompset       @seen Joubu
16:24 huginn         mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 week, 0 days, 18 hours, 10 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <Joubu> @later tell tcohen maybe it's #97 and the commit message is wrong, commitid is 84f9c1c1f539d45e27b28344967ea4dda4917f4f
16:25 mtompset       Must be vacation/holidays. :)
16:25 mtompset       @seen drojf
16:25 huginn         mtompset: drojf was last seen in #koha 5 weeks, 0 days, 9 hours, 42 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: * drojf waves
16:30 tcohen         @later tell mtompset don't try to build the image, just use ours
16:30 huginn         tcohen: The operation succeeded.
16:30 Freddy_Enrique cait: !!!!
16:30 cait           huh?
16:31 Freddy_Enrique buuuuut, isn't the barcode really important for the circulation module?
16:31 cait           yes?
16:31 cait           i meant koha doesn't validate it
16:31 cait           or expects a certain format, characters etc
16:31 cait           you can leave that to the scanners and rfid pads
16:31 cait           if you want to use printed barcodes picking something that can be printed and read is more important
16:32 cait           mtompset: isn't it thanksgiving?
16:32 Freddy_Enrique cait++
16:43 dersmon        hi everyone
16:43 dersmon        is it possible to apply a matching rule when importing marc files from the terminal?
16:45 cait           dersmon: you can use the stage and commit scripts to do the same as in the GUI
16:45 cait           sorry, stage_file and commit_file
16:45 cait           http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=misc;h=2a19ee1d673aef0af7a7e669ee6b8a28cd1fe79b;hb=5f34dd06ec66b11a914e49eb611714ea4c72771d
16:46 cait           we use that for our nightly imports, it's like the gui staged marc import but on command line
16:46 cait           you see the results in the GUI too and can undo etc.
16:46 cait           i think bulkmarcimport can do some matching but requires a different syntax and doesn't use what's defined as a matching rule in Koha
16:48 dersmon        cool thx
16:48 dersmon        will try it out
16:57 cait           bye all
17:01 mtompset       tcohen, I can't...
17:01 mtompset       @later tell cait I'm Canadian. :) It is American Thanksgiving. :)
17:01 huginn         mtompset: The operation succeeded.
17:02 mtompset       BUT! I think I figured out the problem... libtest-simple-perl!
17:27 Freddy_Enrique The permanent location doesn't appear... https://snag.gy/3CThQd.jpg
17:42 reiveune       bye
17:44 mtompset       Freddy_Enrique, your homebranch is probably blank... OR your branch list doesn't have that code.
18:01 ithan          hi
18:01 tcohen         mtompset: you're not familiar with building packages, right?
18:01 ithan          hi, I have query regarding koha gpg key ---- when i add gpg key got messages like - 2 duplicate signatures removed, 157 signatures not checked due to missing keys ----- is it normal?
18:01 tcohen         I see unmet build-time deps issues
18:02 tcohen         is that the problem?
18:02 Freddy_Enrique mtompset: I checked the Branch Value (Ok), The template used (Ok), The item record (Ok): https://snag.gy/egr1n3.jpg
18:02 tcohen         becuase I don't manage to reproduce the 'version 'unknown'  is invalid' errors you get
18:03 mtompset       tcohen, I was building packages following the easy way instructions in the past.
18:03 mtompset       I just tried this year, and it's busted.
18:03 tcohen         did you manage to have a good base.tgz ?
18:04 tcohen         the one in koha/koha-dpkg:18.05 seems to be not good enough
18:04 tcohen         but if you are building your own
18:04 tcohen         you might fix that
18:04 tcohen         I will check what's going on
18:04 mtompset       I'm giving up on the DOCKER building...
18:04 mtompset       I'm just trying to get regular building working.
18:04 tcohen         I don't think there's a problem specific to doing it in docker
18:05 mtompset       Joubu mentioned something about pbuilder not running in docker on his pages.
18:05 mtompset       a chroot issue?
18:05 tcohen         chroot requires —privileges
18:05 tcohen         but that's it
18:05 mtompset       Anyways, I just want to see a regular build work... and I'm having difficulty.
18:05 tcohen         the errors you are getting
18:05 tcohen         you will get them without docker in the middle
18:06 tcohen         the base.tgz doesn't have some things installed
18:07 tcohen         it seems to fail due to the absense of libwebservice-ils-perl
18:09 mtompset       I just want brain-dead cut-and-paste "I have a kohaclone with some patches applied" build it now instructions. :)
18:09 tcohen         right
18:09 tcohen         that can't happen for 18.05
18:09 tcohen         as it requires libwebservice-ils-perl
18:10 tcohen         and it is not in the 18.05 repo or stretch
18:10 tcohen         BUT
18:10 tcohen         koha-dpkg could work
18:10 tcohen         if I fix it manually
18:10 tcohen         i.e. make the dependency available
18:11 tcohen         you shouldn't build your own docker image
18:11 tcohen         BTW
18:11 mtompset       if I can get a fail with just that... then I'd know how to fix it.
18:11 mtompset       tcohen, I need to for work.
18:11 tcohen         I cannot say anything about your build and how you're using it
18:11 mtompset       because I need something that behaves like a sandbox, but more than just one bug.
18:11 tcohen         but I will update the base.tgz file
18:12 mtompset       (or no bugs)
18:13 tcohen         can you delete any images you have in your docker?
18:13 tcohen         related to this of course
18:13 tcohen         docker image ls
18:13 tcohen         grep koha-dpkg
18:13 mtompset       yes... that's not a problem. :)
18:14 mtompset       docker built image gone.
18:15 tcohen         my image is building still
18:16 mtompset       libppi-perl libwebservice-ils-perl xsltproc docbook-xsl libxml2-utils
18:16 tcohen         libppi-perl is for master
18:16 mtompset       I was trying regular build commandline :)
18:17 tcohen         don't cheat
18:17 tcohen         use the same branch (master)
18:17 tcohen         koha-dpkg works for master
18:17 ithan          hi, I have query regarding koha gpg key ---- when i add gpg key got messages like - 2 duplicate signatures removed, 157 signatures not checked due to missing keys ----- is it normal?
18:18 mtompset       I'm runinng this in a Jessie VM.
18:18 mtompset       Not docker.
18:18 mtompset       Not host.
18:19 tcohen         I'm not following you mtompset
18:19 tcohen         but I can confirm 18.05 build correctly now
18:21 tcohen         make sure you have write permissions on /tmp (from your exapmle)
18:22 mtompset       those libraries I listed were what caused my master build to fail on a Jessie VM...
18:22 mtompset       I'm running multiple builds simultaneously, trying to get something to work.
18:22 mtompset       Now... back to your koha-dpkg
18:22 mtompset       it's up to date.
18:22 mtompset       image deleted.
18:22 tcohen         mtompset: I don't do multi-threading when giving instructions
18:22 mtompset       running build command.
18:22 tcohen         https://snag.gy/1ugxp9.jpg
18:23 mtompset       I'll try to not forget the --privileged too. :)
18:24 tcohen         I cheated
18:24 tcohen         that was the 18.05 image, building master LOL
18:25 tcohen         that explains the need for libwebservice-ils-perl
18:25 tcohen         ok, 18.05 built correctly too
18:27 tcohen         mtompset: don't forget to use the documented commands :-P and making sure the debs/ destination exists and permissions are correct. I use ~/tmp/debs to avoid any stretch issue with tmp dirs
18:27 mtompset       Oh fecal matter! regular build failed... positive note: all dependencies were there.
18:27 ithan          eythian /// hi, I have query regarding koha gpg key ---- when i add gpg key got messages like - 2 duplicate signatures removed, 157 signatures not checked due to missing keys ----- is it normal?
18:27 tcohen         the important thing about build failures is the output :-D
18:28 mtompset       unrepresentable changes to source?!
18:28 tcohen         you have uncommitted stuff
18:29 tcohen         git reset —hard HEAD
18:29 tcohen         to get rid of automatic debian/changelog changes
18:29 mtompset       just the git log. ;)
18:29 mtompset       Right. :)
18:29 tcohen         enjoy
18:30 tcohen         it's a pity we need —privileged
18:30 tcohen         because we cannot run this anywhere
18:30 mtompset       so my regular build might succeed now.
18:30 tcohen         (like in a swarm)
18:30 mtompset       still waiting on the docker build/.
18:32 mtompset       what's that git prune everything that isn't committed?
18:33 mtompset       git clean -d -f?
18:37 mtompset       curses... something's not right... let's try this again...
18:40 mtompset       rebuilding again... made sure I was on 18.05.x before build.
18:50 * mtompset     wishes for a faster internet connection.
18:53 tcohen         hi cait
18:53 cait           hi tcohen :)
18:54 cait           mtompset: argh, sorry for the mistake :)
18:55 tcohen         mtompset: so??
18:55 wahanui        somebody said so was the koha ON the mac?
18:55 tcohen         did it build?
18:55 mtompset       no.
18:56 mtompset       for some reason I run those two commands the build and the run, and the run fails...
18:56 mtompset       missing koha-perldeps.
18:56 tcohen         WHY are you building the image?
18:56 mtompset       I'll delete the image and just run the run?
18:56 tcohen         yes!
18:56 tcohen         copy the command I used
18:57 tcohen         it should download the right image
18:57 tcohen         and build the packages
18:57 mtompset       It's pulling yours now.
18:57 tcohen         phew
18:58 tcohen         I will change the README so no mistake is possible about this
18:58 mtompset       But I don't get why the build isn't correct locally.
18:59 tcohen         probably because the base_18.05.tgz image isn't updated (cached)
19:03 mtompset       half downloaded now....
19:07 mtompset       And it bombed.
19:07 mtompset       :(
19:09 mtompset       reopened issue, and put output there.
19:11 mtompset       So, why did it fail with YOUR base image?
19:15 tcohen         it is your fault, somehow :-D
19:15 mtompset       I'll take the blame...
19:16 mtompset       but I'd like help diagnosing it.
19:16 mtompset       I have just made sure my kohaclone branch is a clean 18.05.x
19:16 mtompset       there was some ugliness.
19:16 tcohen         how did it fail?
19:17 tcohen         mtompset: you're full of ungracked files
19:17 tcohen         untracked
19:17 tcohen         that won't work
19:17 tcohen         it needs to be clean
19:18 mtompset       I suspected as such.
19:18 tcohen         not docker-related
19:18 mtompset       I just cleaned them up.
19:18 mtompset       I'm attempting again.
19:18 tcohen         are you sure it is clean?
19:18 tcohen         git status?
19:19 mtompset       I just typed git commit... it gives status when you have nothing to commit. :)
19:19 mtompset       I'll check with git status just to be sure.
19:19 tcohen         git status tells you about untracked files ;-)
19:20 mtompset       Ooooo.... flashy building.
19:20 mtompset       running tests?!
19:20 mtompset       Much further than before.
19:22 coyas          who know what this error is?
19:22 tcohen         mtompset: follow the *shinny new* instructions
19:22 coyas          Can't locate DBIx/RunSQL.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /tmp/koha-18.05.05 /usr/local/lib64/perl5 /usr/local/share/perl5 /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib64/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 .) at /tmp/koha-18.05.05/C4/Installer.pm line 23.
19:22 tcohen         hola coyas
19:22 coyas          BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /tmp/koha-18.05.05/C4/Installer.pm line 23.
19:22 coyas          Compilation failed in require at Makefile.PL line 32.BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Makefile.PL line 32.
19:23 tcohen         coyas, you really need to run
19:23 tcohen         ./koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u -c
19:23 coyas          hola tcohel
19:23 tcohen         on the source dir
19:23 tcohen         before anything else
19:23 coyas          falas portugues
19:23 tcohen         español
19:23 tcohen         Argentina
19:23 tcohen         :-D
19:24 coyas          hola same in portugues
19:24 coyas          -m -u -c is for what
19:25 tcohen         -m: missing -u: require update -c: cool colors :-D
19:25 tcohen         you shouldn't do anything until you solve the Perl dependencies issues
19:26 coyas          ok
19:26 tcohen         some of them are probably available in yum
19:26 coyas          i am trying to install it by source code
19:26 tcohen         I know
19:26 coyas          for fun
19:26 tcohen         ^^ that I didn't know
19:26 mtompset       coyas, it's good learning, but it isn't fun. :)
19:26 coyas          if i need in the future
19:26 coyas          for me is very fun
19:27 tcohen         the starting point is perl dependencies
19:27 mtompset       also, if you are on a debian-based system (Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, etc.) -- use the packages.
19:27 tcohen         so you need to figure how to install what that command I sent you reports
19:27 mtompset       but from the sounds of it... you aren't.
19:27 tcohen         after that, you provide a complete instructions set for the wiki
19:27 tcohen         =D
19:28 mtompset       Yes, don't be the 9 lepers who didn't come back to thank their healer. ;)
19:28 coyas          ok
19:28 coyas          i am using CentOS
19:29 tcohen         you need to find a good repo like EPEL containing most dependencies already packaged fr CentOS
19:29 tcohen         or fedora
19:29 coyas          this is why i am install it by source code
19:29 tcohen         or whatever
19:29 wahanui        hmmm... whatever is local.
19:29 mtompset       Then you might want to see how bad or where to fix existing instructions.
19:30 Freddy_Enrique Ok, I create a new Item, then I select the home and current branch. I saved it but the results doesn't show it
19:30 tcohen         coyas: then people don't follow the instructions, right mtompset? :-^
19:30 tcohen         hahaha
19:31 Freddy_Enrique I check phpmyadmin and there's a NULL in the home branch as if I dind't put anything there
19:31 mtompset       tcohen, true.
19:32 mtompset       tcohen, I follow instructions... very linearly....
19:32 tcohen         coyas: tell us what dos koha_perl_deps.pl tell
19:32 mtompset       you fixed yours. ;)
19:32 tcohen         yes sir, I got it
19:33 tcohen         coyas: http://www.canfield.com/on-error-do/install-cpanminus-in-centos-6-aka-cpanm
19:33 tcohen         that's what you really need
19:33 tcohen         then
19:33 tcohen         sudo /usr/local/bin/cpanm DBIx::RunSQL (for example)
19:38 coyas          Module Name                                   Version           Version            Required
19:38 coyas          --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
19:38 coyas          Archive::Extract                              0                 0.60                    No
19:38 coyas          Archive::Zip                                  0                 1.30                    No
19:38 coyas          Business::ISSN                                0                 0.91                    Yes
19:38 coyas          Bytes::Random::Secure                         0                 0.28                    Yes
19:38 coyas          CGI::Compile                                  0                 0.17                    Yes
19:38 coyas          CGI::Emulate::PSGI                            0                 0.20                    Yes
19:38 coyas          Cache::FastMmap                               0                 1.34                    No
19:38 coyas          Cache::Memory                                 0                 2.04                    No
19:38 coyas          Clone                                         0                 0.37                    Yes
19:38 coyas          Convert::BaseN                                0                 0.01                    No
19:38 coyas          Crypt::Eksblowfish::Bcrypt                    0                 0.008                   Yes
19:38 coyas          Crypt::GCrypt                                 0                 1.24                    No
19:38 coyas          DBD::mysql                                    0                 4.004                   Yes
19:38 coyas          DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader                   0                 0.07039                 Yes
19:38 coyas          DBIx::RunSQL                                  0                 0.14                    Yes
19:38 coyas          Devel::Cover                                  0                 0.89                    No
19:38 coyas          Email::Date                                   0                 1.103                   Yes
19:38 coyas          Email::Valid                                  0                 0.190                   Yes
19:38 coyas          File::Slurp                                   0                 9999.13                 Yes
19:39 coyas          HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench                     0                 0.73                    No
19:39 coyas          JSON::Validator                               0                 0.97                    Yes
19:39 coyas          LWP::Protocol::https                          0                 5.836                   No
19:39 coyas          Library::CallNumber::LC                       0                 0.22                    Yes
19:39 coyas          Lingua::Ispell                                0                 0.07                    No
19:39 coyas          Locale::Language                              0                 2.07                    Yes
19:39 coyas          Locale::Maketext                              0                 1.19                    Yes
19:39 coyas          Locale::Maketext::Lexicon                     0                 0.91                    Yes
19:39 coyas          Log::Log4perl                                 0                 1.29                    Yes
19:39 coyas          Module::Bundled::Files                        0                 0.03                    No
19:39 coyas          Mojolicious                                   0                 7.21                    Yes
19:39 coyas          Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI                  0                 1.15                    Yes
19:39 coyas          Net::LDAP                                     0                 0.33                    No
19:39 coyas          Net::LDAP::Filter                             0                 0.14                    No
19:39 coyas          Net::OAuth2::AuthorizationServer              0                 0.16                    No
19:39 coyas          Net::SFTP::Foreign                            0                 1.73                    No
19:39 coyas          Net::Server                                   0                 0.97                    No
19:39 coyas          Net::Z3950::ZOOM                              0                 1.16                    Yes
19:39 coyas          OpenOffice::OODoc                             0                 2.125                   Yes
19:39 coyas          PDF::FromHTML                                 0                 0.31                    No
19:39 coyas          Parallel::ForkManager                         0                 0.75                    No
19:39 coyas          Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxy               0                 0.14                    Yes
19:39 coyas          SOAP::Lite                                    0                 0.712                   No
19:39 coyas          Search::Elasticsearch                         0                 5.01                    Yes
19:39 coyas          Selenium::Remote::Driver                      0                 1.27                    No
19:39 coyas          Sereal::Decoder                               0                 3.0                     Yes
19:39 coyas          Sereal::Encoder                               0                 3.0                     Yes
19:39 coyas          String::Random                                0                 0.22                    Yes
19:40 coyas          Sys::CPU                                      0                 0.52                    No
19:40 coyas          Template::Plugin::JSON::Escape                0                 0.02                    Yes
19:40 coyas          Template::Plugin::Stash                       0                 1.006                   No
19:40 coyas          Test::DBIx::Class                             0                 0.42                    No
19:40 coyas          Test::MockTime                                0                 0.13                    No
19:40 coyas          Test::WWW::Mechanize                          0                 1.42                    No
19:40 coyas          Text::Bidi                                    0                 0.03                    Yes
19:40 coyas          Text::Iconv                                   0                 1.7                     Yes
19:40 coyas          Text::Unidecode                               0                 0.04                    No
19:40 coyas          Time::Fake                                    0                 0.11                    No
19:40 coyas          UUID                                          0                 0.05                    Yes
19:40 coyas          WWW::CSRF                                     0                 1.00                    Yes
19:40 coyas          WWW::YouTube::Download                        0                 0.56                    No
19:40 coyas          WebService::ILS                               0                 0.17                    No
19:40 coyas          XML::Dumper                                   0                 0.81                    Yes
19:40 coyas          XML::SAX::Writer                              0                 0.44                    Yes
19:40 coyas          XML::Writer                                   0                 0.614                   No
19:40 coyas          Try::Tiny                                     0.12              0.22                    Yes
19:40 coyas          --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
19:40 coyas          Total modules reported: 65
19:40 coyas          sorry this was unnecessary
19:40 coyas          long text
19:40 coyas          now i need to install all required dependence?
19:41 Freddy_Enrique oh...
19:42 coyas          I have o question?(other)
19:43 coyas          the folder /etc/koha/   and /usr/share/koha  when they will created?, when i do make install or i have to install they manually
19:46 tcohen         when you run
19:46 tcohen         perl Makefile.PL
19:46 tcohen         it will ask you for install method
19:46 tcohen         and destination
19:46 tcohen         then
19:46 tcohen         make install
19:46 tcohen         will take care of all the things
19:46 coyas          ok
19:47 tcohen         but
19:47 tcohen         you first need to search
19:47 tcohen         what perl libs are on yum
19:47 tcohen         (put them on the wiki)
19:47 tcohen         and then explain how to install cpanm (put it on the wiki)
19:48 tcohen         and add the missing ones as instructions to use cpanm
19:48 coyas          i have cpan installed
19:48 tcohen         on the wiki :-D
19:48 coyas          i use cpan Try::Tiny (one of required module)
19:49 coyas          the installation is done
19:49 tcohen         wait
19:49 tcohen         if you are using CentOS
19:49 tcohen         you *should* be using the EPEL repositories
19:50 tcohen         yum --enablerepo=extras install epel-release
19:50 tcohen         and you should probably first try installing the community maintained perl module distributions
19:50 mtompset       by the way you can use the -b flag for BRIEF.
19:50 mtompset       Then you can cpanm those, if you aren't worried about upgrading later. ;)
19:51 mtompset       but probably best to try to yum as many as possible first. :)
19:52 tcohen         yum list all | grep perl
19:52 tcohen         ^^^ that might help
19:52 mtompset       ./koha_perldeps -b -u -m # ;)
19:53 coyas          Package epel-release-7-11.noarch already installed and latest version
19:53 tcohen         now: yum list all | grep perl
19:53 * mtompset     crazily shouts, "install all the perls!"
19:54 * mtompset     laughs, "No, no don't do that."
19:54 mtompset       (installing all the perls would be overkill and potentially bad)
19:59 coyas          i am following this wiki https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Centos_6.3
20:00 coyas          i do: yum list all | grep perl
20:00 coyas          now is?
20:02 coyas          i will install all required module listed in ./koha_perl_deps.pl
21:02 cait           hi terahuitunua and welcome to #koha :)
21:05 eythian        ithan: probably fine, yeah
22:34 Nemo_bis       why would someone use such ancient stuff :( https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Centos_6.3
22:34 Nemo_bis       (Looks like there's an unbalanced div too)