Time  Nick           Message
00:07 * CrispyBran   waves
00:07 CrispyBran     Good night #koha
01:26 tcohen         hi
01:26 wahanui        hola, tcohen
07:06 fridolin       hi there
07:25 magnuse        \o/
07:42 Archie^        Good morning Koha
07:49 magnuse        hiya fridolin Archie^ sophie_m
07:49 sophie_m       hello magnuse and #koha
07:50 alex_a         bonjour
07:53 Archie^        Hey guys i had issue yesterday, still could not figure out the way to metagate it. During migration  of multiple libraries  how would one migrate multiple patrons with same card numbers?
07:54 reiveune       hello
07:55 Archie^        Hi reiveune
08:12 magnuse        Archie^: if you have different people with the same cardnumber, you have to change some of the cardnumbers
08:13 Archie^        yeah i got that from the text in upload. But is there any other way?
08:14 magnuse        no, cardnumbers in Koha have to be unique
08:22 ere            morning everyone!
08:26 magnuse        hiya ere and cait
08:27 ere            hi magnuse
08:27 * ere          had his git repo crash :/
08:29 magnuse        ouch!
08:30 ere            git fsck just segfaults, time to re-clone... fortunately I think I didn't have anything major in progress
09:02 tuxayo         ere (IRC): ouch, segfaulting git O_o
09:03 tuxayo         ere (IRC): just in case, haven't you used sed or other things like that in the code? With a friend we broke many times a repo before relizing that I was happning just after we were using sed...
09:09 ere            tuxayo: Thanks but no, my VM crashed and that somehow mangled the repo too.
09:14 tuxayo         ere (IRC): :(
09:15 ere            tuxayo: Luckily I have a suffienctly fast connection so it didn't take whole day to clone the repository anew :)
09:28 ashimema       lol
09:51 ere            ashimema: I'm working on adding tests for 19365...
09:52 ashimema       thanks ere :)
09:52 ashimema       it's annoying I know.. but I wouldnt' want the fine additions you've made to get splatted at a later date
10:14 * andreashm    waves
10:18 ere            ashimema: No problem, the tests are useful even if they're pain to write
11:59 Joubu          hi
11:59 Joubu          ashimema: for gitlab what we do is: create an issue (number 42), push to branch "issue_42" with comment title "Issue #42 - "
12:00 Joubu          the #42 will link directly the PR with the issue
12:00 ashimema       thanks.. that's helpful to know
12:00 Joubu          can you force push adding the #?
12:01 ashimema       sure
12:01 * ashimema     tries to remember which issue we're talking about.. the qa script one?
12:01 Joubu          https://gitlab.com/koha-community/qa-test-tools/merge_requests/6#note_116999873
12:01 Joubu          branch issue_8
12:01 ashimema       ta
12:02 Joubu          ashimema: ha but, wait
12:02 Joubu          on the issue there is a link: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/qa-test-tools/issues/8
12:02 Joubu          " 1 Related Merge Request "
12:02 Joubu          ha no, it's your comment
12:03 * Joubu        drinks more mate
12:03 ashimema       aha.. that's better
12:03 ashimema       cheers Joubu
12:04 Joubu          ashimema: note that we have the same issue in our Koha tests :)
12:05 Joubu          ashimema: maybe it would be better to fix it in t::lib::QA::TemplateFilters::missing_filters
12:05 ashimema       funny.. i thought you might say that just after I'd submitted it
12:05 ere            ashimema: Tests should now be in a much better shape in bug 19365. There were a few to fix and a set of new ones have been added. I also cleaned up the files the tests were scattered in a bit.
12:05 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19365 major, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Needs Signoff , link_bibs_to_authorities.pl doesn't work with Elasticsearch
12:07 ashimema       thanks ere
12:09 ashimema       what confused me Joubu was that we're not building the array in line order to start with.. it certianly looked like we actually were
12:09 ashimema       at a cursory glance
12:10 marcelr        hi #koha
12:10 Joubu          kidclamp: no credit for 18.11 release?
12:10 Joubu          ashimema: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-release-notes/blob/master/release_notes_18_05_06.md - search for "Credits"
12:10 Joubu          "We thank the following libraries who are known to have sponsored new features in Koha 18.05.05:
12:11 Joubu          Bug 20720: Using git Sponsored-by lines to update 'about'
12:11 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20720 minor, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Stable , Add libraries (sponsors) to the about page
12:11 Joubu          :D
12:11 ashimema       yeah, I spotted that
12:12 ashimema       was going to ask Joubu why the regex is `^.*Sponsored-by` rather than `^Sponsored-by` in the script that generates that
12:12 ashimema       you look for Sponsored-by anywhere in the line rather than just git trailers
12:13 * ashimema     wanted to switch to using the git inbuild trailers commands.. but they're horribly unusable :(
12:16 Joubu          "I"?
12:16 Joubu          not sure I wrote that code :)
12:16 Joubu          but yeah, should be adjust
12:16 ashimema       oh.. I assumed it was you.. my bad
12:16 Joubu          we should have a specific routines to parse the git trailers
12:17 ashimema       I should have git blamed first ;)
12:17 ashimema       yeah..
12:17 ashimema       unfortunately the build in git routines to extract trailers are a bit pants
12:17 ashimema       they miss half of them :(
12:17 * ashimema     spend a fair chunk of time trying to work with them a couple of weeks back
12:18 ashimema       did you see my utf8 merge request on the release tools?
12:23 Joubu          nope
12:27 ere            kidclamp: I don't know about normalization of call numbers, but would it make sense to sort by "IFNULL(cn_sort, callnumber)" or "IFNULL(cn_sort, callnumber), callnumber" in case cn_sort is set but empty?
12:28 kidclamp       I don't know if one should ever be unset (unless through db manipulation)
12:28 kidclamp       and mixing would create interesting ranges I believe
12:29 ere            kidclamp: Well, if you sort by "cn_sort, callnumber", the latter won't have any effect unless it's a tie, no?
12:30 ere            Not that it would be so important as one could always write the original value to cn_sort too if normalization fails..
12:30 tcohen         morning
12:31 ere            kidclamp: And I didn't mean to mix normalized and non-normalized, but perhaps you're right and it doesn't make sense to have a fallback.
12:32 oleonard       Hi all
12:32 ere            kidclamp: Well, yes, you're right. :) And that's it for me for today..
12:33 Joubu          @later tell ere use COALESCE instead of IFNULL
12:33 huginn         Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:36 ashimema       https://gitlab.com/koha-community/release-tools/merge_requests/4 Joubu (IRC)
12:37 ashimema       it's a bit over the top actually
12:43 Joubu          ashimema: what errors are you trying to fix?
12:44 Joubu          ha, issue 1 :)
12:51 ashimema       that and I was getting a bunch of nasty characters in names
12:52 ashimema       https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-release-notes/commit/3eb69cf157a553551e93483e632d218fb2a28c7c
12:52 ashimema       that's what it fixed for me
12:53 ashimema       but perhaps it was a locale thing on the system I've been using to generate the note for this.. my dev server didn't seem to have the same issue
13:08 cait           marc renders a bit funnily - with a copyright sign in the name
13:08 cait           Marc Véron AG (1)
13:09 cait           I think the mail to name file for companies needs a bit of updating :)
13:10 ashimema       haha
13:10 ashimema       yup
13:10 ashimema       I'm working on all sorts of little fixes at the minute for things like that
13:10 ashimema       it's lunch time after all ;)
13:10 kidclamp       ashimema++
13:10 tcohen         ashimema++
13:11 cait           Bug 20720: Using git Sponsored-by lines to update 'about' < got into the credits :)
13:11 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20720 minor, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Stable , Add libraries (sponsors) to the about page
13:12 ashimema       haha
13:12 ashimema       https://gitlab.com/koha-community/release-tools/merge_requests/5
13:12 ashimema       that resolves that exact issue cait
13:14 cait           :)
13:24 oleonard       Is there a standard resolution to "unable to unlink old 'some-file.pl' (Text file busy)" with git?
13:32 oleonard       Solved it by halting my devbox and doing the git checkout in the host
13:34 mtompset       Oops... forgot to shutdown last night. Morning, #koha.
13:34 cait           never had that, sorry oleonard
13:35 mtompset       Back in a bit... (seems like ubuntu reboots are almost as common as windoze)
13:36 oleonard       Ubuntu? More like SNOOZEbuntu, amirite?
14:00 oleonard       Is there a meeting now?
14:00 ashimema       is that now?
14:00 * ashimema     can't remember what time it was
14:01 kidclamp       yes, meeting!
14:01 oleonard       My calendar says it is, but you know how omnipotent AI's can be.
14:01 kidclamp       #startmeeting General IRC meeting 14 November 2018
14:01 huginn         Meeting started Wed Nov 14 14:01:45 2018 UTC.  The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:01 huginn         Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:01 huginn         The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_14_november_2018'
14:01 kidclamp       #topic Introductions
14:01 ashimema       no-one added their name
14:02 kidclamp       #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions
14:02 ashimema       #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe
14:02 magnuse        #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway
14:02 oleonard       #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA
14:02 * magnuse      gotta run in 30 minutes
14:02 davidnind      #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand
14:02 kidclamp       this should be quick, this was just to elect 18.05 maint and translation manager
14:03 * oleonard     waves to 3AM in New Zealand
14:03 magnuse        https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_19.05
14:03 magnuse        davidnind++
14:04 davidnind      waves, sleepily
14:04 oleonard       Is fridolin here?
14:04 fridolin       yep
14:04 fridolin       #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France
14:04 kidclamp       #topic Announcements
14:05 kidclamp       #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_14_November_2018 Agenda
14:05 * fridolin     current RMaint 17.11.x
14:05 kidclamp       #info feature freeze is here, fix all the bugs!
14:05 fridolin       David have a coffe or a bier
14:05 kidclamp       anyone else?
14:05 oleonard       I would like to announce that I'd like to get signoffs on a couple of bugs with simple fixes: Bug 21813 and Bug 21814
14:05 davidnind      tea?
14:05 ashimema       haha
14:05 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21813 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , In-page JavaScript causes error on patron entry page
14:05 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21814 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , System preferences save button can be hidden by language menu
14:05 ashimema       +1
14:05 ashimema       fix all th things
14:06 oleonard       I think those two could make the release if we get them tested.
14:07 ashimema       release notes are being rebuilt regularly now.. so point out the errors and lets get cleaning those up too
14:07 kidclamp       #topic Update on releases
14:07 kidclamp       fridolin ashimema
14:07 tcohen         #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions
14:08 ashimema       sorry.. someone dragged me to the door
14:08 ashimema       bloomin cold caller
14:08 ashimema       right.. no updated from me past what we said last week
14:09 ashimema       manically catching up on the queue but as fast as I empty mine you fill it back up kidclamp ;)
14:09 fridolin       jenkins broken on 17.11.x but its from jenkins
14:10 fridolin       otherwise nothing special
14:10 kidclamp       and I am just polishing the release etc. thanks to all for hard work in getting things fixed and ready to go
14:11 kidclamp       #info stable releases continue, master is being prepared for release
14:11 kidclamp       #topic Roles for 19.05 - 18.05 Rmaint and translation manager
14:12 Joubu          #info Jonathan Druart
14:12 kidclamp       Indranil has volunteered if bernardo isn't around and bernardo said he would go if no one else does - so we elect them both?
14:12 kidclamp       :-)
14:13 kidclamp       for 18.05 JesseM and lukeG volunteered with Kyle backing them up
14:13 ashimema       sounds like a plan to me.. spread the load
14:14 * ashimema     thinks kidclamp has been bullying colleagues 😉
14:14 kidclamp       little old me?
14:15 Joubu          yes, both sounds good to me
14:15 Joubu          Bernardo needs to share his knowledges
14:15 kidclamp       ok, ready to vote then?
14:16 oleonard       I vote we vote
14:17 ashimema       go for it
14:17 kidclamp       #startvote Do we accept the 19.05 roles for 18.05 Rmaint and Translation manager teams as listed on the wiki page roles for 19.05? Yes, No, Abstain
14:17 huginn         Begin voting on: Do we accept the 19.05 roles for 18.05 Rmaint and Translation manager teams as listed on the wiki page roles for 19.05? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain.
14:17 huginn         Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:17 kidclamp       #vote Yes
14:17 Joubu          #vote yes
14:17 oleonard       #vote Yes
14:18 ashimema       #vote Yes
14:18 magnuse        #vote Yes
14:18 davidnind      #vote yes
14:18 Joubu          "as listed" :) when? what was listed?
14:18 kidclamp       they are listed there now
14:18 ashimema       it got listed just before he wrote the vote ;)
14:18 * ashimema     refreshed to check
14:19 kidclamp       heh, you voted before asking
14:19 kidclamp       last call
14:19 oleonard       As listed -- Oh no kidclamp is now dictator for life!
14:19 kidclamp       bwahahahahahaa
14:19 Joubu          so Indranil is not on the list
14:19 kidclamp       #endvote
14:19 huginn         Voted on "Do we accept the 19.05 roles for 18.05 Rmaint and Translation manager teams as listed on the wiki page roles for 19.05?" Results are
14:19 huginn         Yes (6): Joubu, magnuse, davidnind, oleonard, ashimema, kidclamp
14:20 kidclamp       he is, they are both listed for translation manager
14:20 * oleonard     starts growing the now mandatory handlebar mustache
14:20 * ashimema     just saw kidclamps job title at bywater and giggled
14:20 kidclamp       #chair Joubu
14:20 huginn         Current chairs: Joubu kidclamp
14:21 Joubu          https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_18.11
14:21 Joubu          "Translation Manager "
14:21 kidclamp       https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_19.05
14:21 * Joubu        hides
14:21 Joubu          lol, sorry
14:21 kidclamp       heh
14:22 kidclamp       congratulations (condolences) to all
14:22 Joubu          already 19.05!
14:22 kidclamp       you want to introduce a new topic Joubu/
14:22 Joubu          I would like to add more confusion, yes
14:23 Joubu          #topic just yet another topic
14:23 kidclamp       hah
14:23 Joubu          maybe it does not make sense, but I am wondering if we should add a "rule" in the community
14:23 Joubu          about the ML
14:24 Joubu          should not we ask people to contact Koha developers *before* sending advertisement on the list?
14:24 kidclamp       context?
14:24 Joubu          if they do not, we could send a standard message saying that this tool/app/stuff is unknown by us and that we do not recommend using it
14:24 Joubu          "Koha opac" app, for instance
14:25 ashimema       yeah.. I'd be happy with that
14:25 Joubu          I seem important to warn the user that we have no idea what these stuffs are
14:25 Joubu          It*
14:25 oleonard       How would we define 'advertisement?'
14:26 oleonard       How would we police it?
14:26 ashimema       we couldn't really
14:27 Joubu          when Koha is written "KOHA" could be a first validation step
14:27 kidclamp       I like protecting users, I don't like the idea of trying to limit posts
14:27 Joubu          it's not limiting post
14:27 Joubu          it's just: either or contact us first, or we will reply with a standard message to tell people we do not know what it is
14:27 ashimema       I'm not sure about a rule preventing posts..
14:28 ashimema       but I equaly don't have an issue with some clause saying that nothing said on the list is endorsed by the list
14:28 Joubu          it happened 3x this year. Sometimes it's free software, other times it's not
14:28 kidclamp       what will we do when they contact us?
14:28 Joubu          [off] when it was free software the code was potentially dangerous
14:28 oleonard       And who is "us" ?
14:28 Joubu          koha-devel
14:29 Joubu          I am not asking to take a decision know, just asking if it makes sense first
14:29 Joubu          then if we should think about it
14:29 kidclamp       I think a clause saying we don't endorse the list makes sense, and maybe a response to say that we don't endorse products and user should be awar who tey are installing from
14:30 Joubu          [off] the idea could also be to prevent regional battles on the list
14:31 kidclamp       are there guidelines for the list somewhere?
14:31 Joubu          I do not think so
14:31 oleonard       Not on the signup page
14:32 kidclamp       I think this should be a list discussion maybe? I don't think we have enough people here, I am more for general guidelines about posts, but then we need moderators
14:32 Joubu          yes sure, I wanted to launch the discussion, nothing more :)
14:32 kidclamp       Joubu++
14:33 ashimema       Joubu++
14:33 Joubu          we could also have other things, like: if you want to report a bug, answer the following questions: 1. Koha version, 2. exact error message, etc.
14:34 ashimema       ML guidelines/code of conduct would be good.. I wouldn't advocate any official moderation but rather if anyone feels sometihng goes against the guidlnes, make a case and discuss and one of the general meetings before a ban or similar
14:34 * oleonard     would favor an automated rule rejecting posts which were cross-posted to more than one list
14:34 kidclamp       yes, and something about "You found a security bug? please do not post instructions on exploiting it to the public list"
14:35 kidclamp       #action Joubu will send an email to the mailing lists about setting guidelines for the mailing lists
14:35 kidclamp       #topic Next meeting
14:36 kidclamp       Dece,mber 5, 2018, 20 UTC?
14:36 ashimema       +1
14:36 davidnind      +1
14:36 kidclamp       i did three weekes since this was a 'bonus' meeting
14:37 oleonard       +1
14:37 Joubu          do not mess the next meeting info! :D
14:37 davidnind      we love our meetings :)
14:37 ashimema       lol
14:38 kidclamp       #info Next meeting: 5 December 2018, 20 UTC
14:38 kidclamp       last chance to be recorded for posterity
14:38 kidclamp       #endmeeting
14:38 huginn         Meeting ended Wed Nov 14 14:38:52 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:38 huginn         Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_14_november_2018.2018-11-14-14.01.html
14:38 huginn         Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_14_november_2018.2018-11-14-14.01.txt
14:38 huginn         Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_14_november_2018.2018-11-14-14.01.log.html
14:38 Joubu          kidclamp: I love you
14:38 kidclamp       thanks all!
14:39 Joubu          too late
14:39 magnuse        AndrewIsh, ashimema: i will try and work on bug 21834 tomorrow. if you have any objections, please add them to the bug
14:39 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21834 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Display illrequests.orderid in the table of ILL requests
14:39 kidclamp       awww...I love you too Joubu
14:39 * magnuse      wanders off
14:39 Joubu          <3
14:39 magnuse        kidclamp++
14:39 oleonard       Someone sign off on Bug 18584! My son's first patch
14:39 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18584 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Our legacy code contains trailing-spaces
14:39 davidnind      kidclamp++
14:39 kidclamp       @wunder 05001
14:39 huginn         kidclamp: White River Junction, VT :: Mostly Cloudy :: 24F/-4C | Wind Chill: 18F/-8C | Wednesday: Some clouds this morning will give way to generally sunny skies for the afternoon. High 29F. Winds NW at 10 to 20 mph. Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Low 12F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph.
14:40 Joubu          -4°C, really?
14:40 * kidclamp     is considering going for a run, brrr
14:40 oleonard       @wunder 45701
14:40 huginn         oleonard: Athens, OH :: Clear :: 28F/-2C | Wind Chill: 21F/-6C | Wednesday: A mix of clouds and sun during the morning will give way to cloudy skies this afternoon. High 36F. Winds light and variable. Wednesday Night: Cloudy with periods of freezing rain after midnight. Some sleet may mix in. Low near 30F. Winds ENE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precip 100%.
14:41 oleonard       Oh yay freezing rain
14:41 kidclamp       drive safe oleonard
14:41 Joubu          @wunder Buenos Aires
14:41 huginn         Joubu: Buenos Aires, Argentina :: Clear :: 73F/23C | Wednesday: Sunny to partly cloudy. High 76F. Winds WSW at 15 to 25 mph. Wednesday Night: A clear sky. Low 64F. Winds W at 10 to 15 mph.
14:41 AndrewIsh      magnuse:  Sounds good to me. Though a word of warning, I'd strongly advice in favour of doing it on top of the outstanding ILL enhancements dependency tree (of which bug 18589 is at the top). Otherwise you're likely to run into some serious merge pain further down the line as what you're proposing will seriously conflict with stuff in that tree.
14:41 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18589 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Show ILLs as part of patron profile
14:42 ashimema       oleonard++
14:42 AndrewIsh      magnuse:  There are 6 or 7 outstanding bugs in that tree, you'll need to apply them all, but they should all apply cleanly if applied in the correct order. I just did it and it was fine.
14:42 magnuse        thanks AndrewIsh
14:43 kidclamp       that sounds liek aperfect day Joubu - what are you doing indoors?
14:44 oleonard       kidclamp: Neither you nor Joubu are allowed to go outside unless you take a laptop with you and keep working!
14:45 Joubu          heh, will be off a part of the day I think. Especially after 3 days of rain, and weather forecast is bad the the next 3 as well!
14:47 kidclamp       I take my phone, that is like a computer right?
14:47 kidclamp       and I do get push notifications for IRC messages
14:51 oleonard       Hmf
14:51 oleonard       Thanks ashimema :)
14:51 ashimema       :)
14:52 ashimema       I never managed to get Izzy onto bug 21615 yet :(
14:52 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21615 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , "Stock rotation" is at the wrong place in the Tools left side menu
14:53 tcohen         @wunder cordoba, argentina
14:53 huginn         tcohen: Cordoba, Argentina :: Clear :: 69F/20C | Wednesday: Mainly sunny. High 82F. Winds NE at 10 to 15 mph. Wednesday Night: A clear sky. Low 59F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph.
14:56 greenjimll     And I manage to slip into the office after a memorial service for one of our Profs just after the meeting has finished. Am I still a bug wrangler? <checks wiki> Yep, looks like I am.
14:59 marcelr        bug 21774 needs some attention
14:59 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21774 critical, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Cloned item subfields disappear when editing an item
15:13 Michek         start only with the user remove the password is possible, thanks
15:13 Michek         start only with the user remove the password is possible, thanks
15:13 wahanui        i already had it that way, Michek.
15:14 oleonard       Michek: You want to remove a user's password from their account?
15:15 Michek         Yes, so that it starts only with its user
15:15 Michek         without password
15:16 oleonard       Is you goal to let the user log in without a password?
15:17 Freddy_Enrique @wunder lima, peru
15:17 huginn         Freddy_Enrique: Lima, Peru :: Mostly Cloudy :: 64F/18C | Wind Chill: 64F/18C | Wednesday: Partly to mostly cloudy with scattered showers and thunderstorms developing this afternoon. High 67F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40%. Wednesday Night: Showers early, then cloudy overnight. Low 53F. Winds SSW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40%.
15:17 Freddy_Enrique !
15:17 Michek         yes
15:17 Freddy_Enrique thunderstorms...what is that?
15:18 Joubu          tormentas
15:18 Michek         s you goal to let the user log in without a password?
15:18 Freddy_Enrique Hi there Joubu :)
15:18 Freddy_Enrique Uhm, never seen one here
15:19 Michek         :(
15:19 Joubu          Michek: why do you want that?
15:19 Freddy_Enrique Guys, I meant to ask. Anyone here is a member of ALA?
15:20 Archie^        Freddy_Enrique: what's ALA?
15:20 Freddy_Enrique American Library Association
15:20 Michek         use token, if it makes me easier without a password
16:12 reiveune       bye
16:36 Micke          Unifying Koha's login with other software is possible, thanks
16:38 Micke          Unifying Koha's login with other software is possible, thanks
16:38 wahanui        i already had it that way, Micke.
16:39 Micke          ?
16:39 corilynn_      Freddy_Enrique, I am a member of ALA
16:39 oleonard       Micke: wahanui is a bot. You can ignore it.
16:40 oleonard       Micke: Have you searched the Koha wiki for information?
16:40 oleonard       http://wiki.koha-community.org
16:44 Freddy_Enrique corilynn: I've just realized there's a peruvian member in ALA. OMG. Tell me, how is it? is it really beneficial being part of it?
16:45 corilynn       Freddy_Enrique it's so/so. With all professional organizations you get out what you put in. I've been a little too focused on grad school and job hunting to put in
16:46 corilynn       but I have to be a ALA member to be a ALCTS member, and they have the webinars I need to do my job :)
16:47 corilynn       http://www.ala.org/alcts/ Freddy_Enrique
16:48 kidclamp       @seen caroline
16:48 huginn         kidclamp: caroline was last seen in #koha 4 days, 18 hours, 11 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <caroline> bye everyone!
16:50 Freddy_Enrique oh.... Thanks corilynn :)
16:51 corilynn       np, Freedy_Enrique
17:08 AndrewIsh      oleonard++
17:08 AndrewIsh      Thanks for the sign-off :)
17:08 oleonard       👍
17:20 oleonard       Hi caroline
17:20 caroline       hi!
17:20 caroline       Currently at a conference. Ping me if needed
17:21 kidclamp       was just wondering if you have a gitlib repository for  plugins?
17:21 oleonard       kidclamp was just @seen'ing you
17:22 kidclamp       github
17:22 caroline       hi kidclamp!
17:23 kidclamp       hi caroline
17:23 caroline       did you need me for something?
17:30 nuentoter      o7 morning koha world
18:57 * cait         waves at caroline
18:58 cait           ordered tons of new wool today :)
18:58 * caroline     waves to cait
18:58 caroline       :D
19:24 oleonard       Bug 21751 is a pretty good fix for that problem, I think. Don't know if it counts as a bugfix where the release is concerned
19:24 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21751 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , fixFloat toolbar not displaying properly in Chrome
20:09 cait           oleonard-away: still there?
20:09 wahanui        there is a patch about validating the input and displaying issues on about.pl somewhere too
20:09 cait           probably not :)
20:09 alexbuckley    hi all
20:11 tcohen         hi
20:11 wahanui        bidet, tcohen
20:12 tcohen         I love the new OPAC look and feel
20:12 alexbuckley    it is great :)
20:16 cait           you should tell calire
20:16 alexbuckley    hi cait
20:23 * cait         waves
20:33 tcohen         calire++
21:10 cait           i have no idea how to distinguish rotating collections and stock rotation in translation
21:10 cait           we already used the german literal translation of 2 for 1
21:10 cait           ... and is it not kidn of the same thing<ß
21:10 cait           ?
21:25 corilynn       yo, kidclamp, when does the freeze end and the enhancement party start back up?
21:26 kidclamp       Freeze until release, then a bug only period, then enhancements
21:26 corilynn       right, thought on dates?
21:28 kidclamp       Nov27 is release, may do bugs only for 2 weeks, need to settle with ashimema on what works for him since he has to do rebasing
21:30 corilynn       kewl, so I'll expect that I can go back to nursing my patch mid to late Dec
21:37 ashimema       Sounds about right to me
21:37 ashimema       I'm not seeing any especially nasty refactor type bugs on the immediate horizon.. those tend to be the sort that make rebasing more challenging as an ongoing thing.. but at the same time, the earlier they're in in a cycle the more tested they'll be by release.. so it's always going to be fun for someone 😉
21:37 * ashimema     goes back to his evening chill time
21:38 cait           translating is... boring
21:38 ashimema       Hugs cait
21:40 ashimema       I'd say it's less about my rebasing pain and more about making sure we can keep the throughput from SO and QA for mostly bugs during that busy first week or two.. in general bugs should always be prioritised there with enhancement generally taking a back seat to them.
21:40 * ashimema     would love to concentrate on enhancements and code cleanup all the time... But is pragmatic
21:47 cait           :)
22:10 Joubu          @later tell tcohen I assigned you a card on the virtual tool we do not have, "koha-testing-docker - Do not forget to backport #27 into 17.11" ;)
22:10 huginn         Joubu: The operation succeeded.
22:14 Joubu          @later tell tcohen maybe it's #97 and the commit message is wrong, commitid is 84f9c1c1f539d45e27b28344967ea4dda4917f4f
22:14 huginn         Joubu: The operation succeeded.
22:20 ashimema       Huh