Time Nick Message 23:18 * CrispyBran waves 23:15 caroline good night everyone! 22:03 kathryn hi alexbuckley :) 22:03 alexbuckley Hi kathryn 21:36 caroline good morning rangi! 21:36 rangi morning 19:43 alexbuckley bye davidnind 19:42 davidnind 'see' you all later 19:42 davidnind right, better get to work... 19:42 davidnind Joubu++ 19:41 davidnind caroline++ 19:41 caroline Well I edited the wiki page to remove the spaces 19:39 caroline davidnind because I typed them 19:39 davidnind might be hidden HTML characters or something, you other #info commands worked 19:39 lucyvh Thnx all, need to sign off now 19:37 caroline I think when I copied from the wiki it took in a space before 19:37 cait iah maybe htat 19:36 caroline I think there was also a space before the #info 19:36 caroline lolz 19:36 cait caroline: i think you are fine 19:36 davidnind I don't think it does - doesn't seemed to have picked up #info for some reason 19:36 cait ashimema: we volunteered you as the voice for koha manual - the audio book 19:36 * caroline messed up the chairing again -_- 19:35 ashimema Missed it.. sorry 19:35 ashimema meeting 19:33 caroline Usually huginn replies with something no? 19:33 davidnind #info is fine 19:33 caroline oh dear... 19:33 caroline did I not set a next meeting? 19:32 davidnind LeeJ++ 19:32 davidnind caroline++ 19:32 caroline thx Joubu :) 19:32 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/documentation_irc_meeting_6_november_2018.2018-11-06-19.01.log.html 19:32 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/documentation_irc_meeting_6_november_2018.2018-11-06-19.01.txt 19:32 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/documentation_irc_meeting_6_november_2018.2018-11-06-19.01.html 19:32 huginn Meeting ended Tue Nov 6 19:32:37 2018 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 19:32 caroline #endmeeting 19:32 caroline I literally copy-pasted what is on the wiki 19:32 Joubu the space 19:31 davidnind looks right to me.... 19:31 caroline what did I do wrong? 19:30 caroline uh... 19:30 caroline #endmeeting 19:30 cait caroline++:) 19:30 caroline right? 19:30 caroline #info Next meeting: 4 December 2018, 19 UTC 19:29 davidnind yes 19:29 caroline today was 19utc right? 19:29 lucyvh yes 19:29 cait ok 19:29 kellym yup 19:29 davidnind works well for me! 19:28 caroline Is Tuesday dec 4, same time ok with everyone? 19:27 caroline #topic Set time of next meeting 19:27 caroline that was it for the topics on the agenda 19:25 caroline #action davidnind will send a proposal to the mailing list 19:25 davidnind still haven't sent draft message - will do after this meeting... 19:25 caroline you again davidnind 19:24 caroline #topic Next steps - Organization of images in images.rst 19:24 caroline Alrighty, moving on 19:24 caroline #info davidnind will write instructions for us (Linux and Windows), he needs help for mac 19:23 davidnind older info here https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_Automated_Screencapture (Python, selenium , robot framework + screenshot library) 19:23 caroline #info davidnind created a repo on gitlab for automated screenshots 19:22 caroline (thx cait, I always forget) 19:22 davidnind just a matter of writing instructions - was relatively painless to setup on Linux, should be okay on Windows, will probably need some help for those who use a mac 19:22 cait #link https://gitlab.com/davidnind/koha-automated-screenshots 19:21 caroline davidnind you have done it before? it's just a matter of writing the instructions? 19:20 caroline can't wait to try it 19:20 davidnind that's about it at the moment 19:20 davidnind still trying to work out how to capture tabbed interface elements... 19:20 davidnind works well for simple captures where the css is clear 19:19 davidnind need to add some instructions on how to setup and create captures as a first step 19:19 davidnind repository created https://gitlab.com/davidnind/koha-automated-screenshots 19:19 davidnind not much to update, got side tracked since mid October... 19:18 caroline davidnind, go ahead 19:18 caroline #topic Next steps - Automation of screenshots 19:18 davidnind lucyvh++ 19:18 cait brb - have to get the spaghetti squash out of the oven 19:18 lucyvh But think I'm learning slowily 19:18 caroline that's how we learn! 19:18 caroline lucyvh++ :D 19:17 lucyvh Made lots of mistakes and had to re-do things 19:17 cait lucyvh++ for writing it 19:17 lucyvh Can I say thanks to Caroline and Chris for all the help with the ILL section 19:17 davidnind not from me.. 19:17 caroline anything else to add for what's been done? 19:17 alexbuckley caroline++ 19:16 davidnind caroline++ 19:16 caroline so I'll write my name down, but if anyone else wants to, go ahead, it is an election 19:15 * LeeJ passes gavel to caroline 19:15 caroline okies! 19:15 davidnind have fun LeeJ! 19:15 LeeJ caroline: I'm off to class now to learn about compilers :) 19:14 cait elections are tomorrow 19:14 LeeJ caroline cait davidnind: we can figure it out in the next week or so 19:13 cait me too, where I can 19:13 cait I tihnk rangi would be happy to help 19:13 caroline I can try, but I'd need tutoring esp. for merging on gitlab 19:12 cait davidnind: ont only you... 19:12 cait I understand about time constraints, but you'd make a great one too caroline 19:12 LeeJ davidnind: haha 19:12 davidnind that's were I'm getting it wrong then! 19:12 LeeJ I mean, I could always attempt it...I'm currently taking 12 credits this semester and 16 next semester, but I could always still do it if no one feels comfortable 19:11 caroline managers don't do the work davidnind, they manage ;) 19:11 cait manager = tell people what to do ;) 19:11 davidnind I probably have to write something first.... 19:11 caroline davidnind? ;) 19:10 caroline hehe! not sure if I'll have time this cycle 19:10 LeeJ caroline 's turn for manager ;) 19:09 kellym caroline++ 19:09 cait still time to sign up :) 19:09 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_19.05 19:08 cait elections are on 7th 19:08 cait caroline++ 19:08 LeeJ caroline++ 19:08 caroline (or easier to understand) 19:08 caroline I'll try to edit it to make it right 19:08 kellym yes I will caroline, it could be me… also! 19:07 caroline LeeJ, kellym: let me know what doesn't work on the wiki 19:07 kellym thanks LeeJ++ 19:07 LeeJ kellym: sure! I'll be in touch a bit later today (after class) 19:07 kellym leeJ - my email address : kelly@bywatersolutions.com - lets coordinate! thanks ! 19:07 LeeJ just let me know when works for you :) 19:06 LeeJ kellym I'd be more than happy to help 19:06 kellym I tried to add something and I got an error/ rejected. Would anyone be willing to meet with me and screenshare? the wiki directions are slightly off….not even trying to add images…or I am slightly off. :) 19:06 alexbuckley LeeJ++ 19:06 cait lots of work 19:05 cait LeeJ++ 19:05 LeeJ anyone else have stuff to add? :) 19:05 caroline LeeJ++ 19:05 LeeJ that's my most recent news :) 19:04 LeeJ #info tasks are currently caught up for new features; enhancement tasks should match by tomorrow 19:04 LeeJ #link https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/ Koha Manual Taiga 19:03 LeeJ #info Lee is working on mirroring the 18.06 current release notes (new features and enhancements) with tasks in Taiga 19:03 lucyvh #info Lucy Vaux-Harvey PTFS Europe 19:03 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 19:03 LeeJ #topic What's been done so far 19:02 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 19:02 alexbuckley #info Alex Buckley, Catalyst IT NZ 19:02 kellym #info Kelly McElligott, Bywater Solutions 19:02 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro 19:02 LeeJ #info Lee Jamison, Marywood University 19:01 LeeJ #topic Introductions 19:01 huginn Current chairs: LeeJ caroline 19:01 LeeJ #chair caroline 19:01 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_6_november_2018' 19:01 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:01 huginn Meeting started Tue Nov 6 19:01:39 2018 UTC. The chair is LeeJ. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:01 LeeJ #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 6 November 2018 19:01 caroline +1 19:01 LeeJ okay...I'll start it, add you as a chair, then I'll let you know when I'm heading out :) 19:00 caroline LeeJ: let me know when I need to take over the chairing 18:59 LeeJ kidclamp: If I'm guessing what you're thinking, yes it probably could just be converted to a simple Javascript call..but I created the plugin so the cardnumber was captured since it's required for their authentication 18:59 cait phew ;) 18:58 caroline LeeJ: sure 18:58 LeeJ kidclamp: got your later about the redirect..I'm all ears :) 18:57 LeeJ caroline cait: I actually have class in half an hour so I have to head there in around 20 minutes..but I'm here until then...so would either of you like to co-chair/chair? :) 18:56 LeeJ cait: yes :) 18:55 * LeeJ waves to caroline and cait 18:54 alexbuckley :) 18:54 cait not going to get much knitting done before that :) 18:54 cait meeting in 5 minutes? 18:54 cait oh 18:54 * LeeJ gets smacked in the face by all the laters 18:53 caroline hi LeeJ! 18:53 * LeeJ waves 18:50 alexbuckley thanks ashimema :) 18:50 ashimema Sorry alexbuckley I haven't got to that one yet today.. hope to QA it imminently but am on bedtime duties right now 18:49 caroline no problem! I hope it helps 18:48 alexbuckley thanks for your mailing list reply caroline! 18:46 caroline hi alexbuckley! 18:45 alexbuckley hi everyone 18:36 Guest2299 Project Koha_Master_D8 build #92: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/92/ 18:29 Guest2299 Project Koha_Master_U18 build #85: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/85/ 18:25 Guest2299 Project Koha_Master_D9 build #596: STILL UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/596/ 17:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20078: Add accelerated reading indexes to getIndexes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4478545368d50030c3a2a63519024410837c0a27> 17:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20435: Allow lowercase prefix in inventory value builder <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=41a172ac4f3255a57c1285c5b47dadb407a4ef22> 17:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20078: (follow-up) Prevent conflict from attribute duplication <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cfc6c112d30393d83e49e4356fcbd658964fece8> 17:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20629: Remove ability to 'reverse' payments <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb15a9631044cd0191c58feb5b8370e9b846136b> 17:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20629: Pass accountline objects to template instead of hashref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f112ff75c2049cb3e5a259e38ad27a7282f53d2> 17:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20629: (follow-up) fix reverse_col value <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b6c8f9f7ef973f791cf9c422315e7bd125f25acf> 17:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20629: Rename reverse_col to actions_col <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=146f1ca3a6e8f9f309da8b70fec8d90d9ce32090> 17:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21647: Clean up SRU fields mapping templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=143d738dab298dece26e03599c1ec2b129476f98> 17:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21673: Use Koha::Account::Lines->total_amountoutstanding when needed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d28bc7d3cf2a4e6cb8f384d38b5db984759b9b6> 17:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20629: (QA follow-up) Remove actions_col <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e5e9f5e808d9e17c704f5bd757bc6d51d43059b> 17:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20078: (QA follow-up) Correct attribute in PQF.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88eb4d3e20bd698cf73463e5358150dc7145e878> 17:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21696: Use Koha::Account->lines from Koha::Account <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1dd40741b58b7c6ea7596aaed0af0a5488d49fbd> 17:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21673: (QA follow-up) Fix typo and remove unused library <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e5f5ec93f1b25b8db12de923d81473011abf8e4> 17:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21771: (follow-up) Revert the shift statement <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1885e6a2146dfab4784e3d9560161d5f097cfcae> 17:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20996: (RM follow-up) Fix the api tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d05a7e4a73066a546d7ebcfc5af215a0549ae1fb> 17:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20996: Remove warning 'Un-mocked method' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e3f428ade0a20062df1fd2852cb4cb99ae06f7b> 17:05 kidclamp authorites = auth_headers | funds=aqbudgets | budgets = aqbudgetperiods - we name things intuitively 17:04 kidclamp obviously :-D 17:04 CrispyBran Thank you. 17:04 kidclamp virtualshelves 17:04 CrispyBran_lunch Anyone know what table lists are kept in? 16:08 reiveune bye 15:35 caroline I haven't asked them yet, i'll put generic for now and put it in my list of questions 15:35 cait we have lots of generic... 15:35 cait every library here practically makes up their own 15:34 cait hehe I wouldn't be too surprised 15:34 caroline they also have "auto" which I'm thinking is the default of the current system... or ther is a classification for automobiles ;) 15:34 cait do they know? 15:34 cait you could make it generic sorting and still have its own.... just in case 15:33 cait hm 15:33 caroline I found that in a new client's data and I was wondering if I should create them a new class. source in Koha or just put it in "generic" and be done with it :) 15:33 cait do you have some context? 15:33 cait from wikipedia, there is lots of things with ASIS 15:32 cait Australian Secret Intelligence Service ? :) 15:31 caroline it might be American Society for Information Science but I don't see why they would make their own classification 15:31 cait oh :) 15:31 caroline no idea 15:30 cait what does it translate to? 15:30 cait sorry, never 15:30 caroline cait: ever heard of ASIS classification? 15:17 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 15:17 Joubu @later tell ashimema I think you should backport 21576 (Add a developer script to automatically fix missing filters) 15:09 cait for circulation you'll definitely have to create items for the smaller library 15:08 cait :) 15:08 cait i guess i am irritated that you loaded all theo ther books in the first place 15:03 oleonard Bye all 14:47 Archie^ how would i upload these books into koha so there is no duplicates and when i open koha via that library i can hand out only those books and not all of the books from national archive 14:46 Archie^ now. Im migrating a small library to koha and i have a list of all the books that the library has 14:45 Archie^ right so step by step. I uploaded national achive of all books into koha 14:37 cait sorry, not following you 14:36 Archie^ as i said before. I had marcxml file with all the books in the library. I want to add them to koha so a)koha compares it with national archive of all books b)set the duplicates it finds to this new library as "available" 14:33 cait what is your use case exactly? 14:33 Archie^ how do i make an item in koha? :D 14:32 cait Archie^: but I am not sure about your use case 14:32 cait branches links to items in 952 14:32 cait usually you'd make an item 14:31 cait ? 14:30 Archie^ and by libraries i mean table "branches" 14:29 Archie^ right, so let's say i have all available books in the country in koha available from our national library. now let's say i'm migrating one library to koha. so i have marcxml files from said library. What marc field do i need to populate so koha understands that theses books are linked to said library (if libraries are already migrated) 14:13 cait hi caroline :) 14:05 andreashm hi caroline 14:02 * caroline waves to all 13:58 huginn andreashm: The operation succeeded. 13:58 andreashm @later tell josef_moravec I managed to fix and run the SQL for bug 10662. Added a request but can't get the Harvester to start. On the command line it says that it has started but not the UI. Seen this before? 13:57 andreashm oleonard: haha, I saw that too. 13:57 oleonard It wasn't me! 13:50 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21771 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Password recovery is broken 13:50 cait fridolin: i filed a new bug: bug 21771 13:41 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20023 minor, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, RESOLVED FIXED, Password recovery should be case insensitive 13:41 fridolin Bug 20023 13:41 fridolin ok cait 13:38 andreashm . 13:37 cait fridolin: see last comment on 20023 please 13:35 andreashm After that it ran without complaining. =) 13:35 andreashm Looks like it. Had some trouble, but josef told me to delete a line in the sql 13:33 oleonard You got the database update to work correctly? 13:33 oleonard I don't think I had that problem andreashm 13:30 andreashm now that josef_moravec snuck away... =) 13:30 andreashm Wonder if you've had any similar issues? 13:30 kidclamp back in a while 13:30 andreashm But fail to start the Harvester. (it says it's started on command line, but not in the UI) 13:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client 13:29 andreashm oleonard: wanted to look at your additions to bug 10662 13:18 cait we have a problem with password recovery - it doesn't find the matching account anymore, email is there, login too 13:17 cait .11 13:17 cait can anyone test password recovery in 17.11? 13:13 Archie^ i really appriciate how great koha community is 13:11 Archie^ yeah, i understood that ;) thanks. 13:10 cait no special chars etc. 13:10 cait I recommend only using upper case for codes in general 13:10 cait case sensitive 13:10 cait branchcodesneed to match exactly 13:09 Archie^ hi Cait, yeah, i did thanks 13:08 cait Archie^: did you configure yourlibraries in Koha? 13:07 andreashm hi tcohen oleonard 13:07 andreashm . 12:53 oleonard Hi tcohen 12:52 tcohen morning 12:22 josef_moravec There will be follow-up patch with the corrections, but is not submitted yet 12:21 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client 12:21 josef_moravec andreashm: regarding bug 10662, remove the line 11 in installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/bug_10662.sqlb(UNIQUE key) 12:04 Archie^ String index out of range: -1. :/ whatever that means 11:56 josef_moravec Archie^: 10 chars i think 11:47 Archie^ what is the maximum lenght of the Branchcode? 11:42 Archie^ hmm i'll double check 11:42 ashimema Archie^ branchcode is indeed a primary key.. so they have to be unique.. sounds like they're not in your csv 11:41 andreashm Well, that was all me. My git fetch apparently didn't work so was behind master. 10662 works. Off to test then! 11:33 andreashm I do have a bunch more on my list though 11:33 * andreashm was going for 10662, but that didn't apply. =( 11:33 Archie^ someone halp pls :D 11:32 ashimema sorry.. my comment got mixed in the middle there.. the first one was meant for magnuse ;) 11:32 ashimema have fun 11:32 ashimema oh.. you're on a hunt for bugs to sign off are you andreashm :) 11:31 andreashm (not ashimema's, since that is already signed off) ;-) 11:31 * andreashm goes and changes the bug instead. 11:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20640 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Allow migrating a request between backends 11:29 * ashimema wants bug 20640 first ;) 11:27 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client 11:27 andreashm I can't apply bug 10662. Anyone else have this issue? 11:25 Archie^ it says branchcode is being primary key 11:25 Archie^ hmm, so i have CSV table with libraries and i want to import it into koha but it wont let me map the codes to branch code :/ any ideas how to fix this? 11:07 andreashm cait: splitting callnumbers? 11:02 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Provide the ability for users to filter ILL requests 11:02 * magnuse wishes for bug 20600 10:50 nlegrand hey cait! 10:49 cait hi nlegrand :) 10:49 nlegrand o/ magnuse 10:49 cait granular admin permissions and splitting callnumbers 10:49 * ashimema is now peaked with interest 10:49 * cait is dying to see 2 certain bugs go in so she can breathe more freely 10:49 cait puuuuush 10:44 ashimema phew ;) 10:44 kidclamp heh, a few tickets to hit forst 10:43 * ashimema waves to kidclamp 10:42 * ashimema ducks.. kidclamp is here.. that's bound to mean... incoming..... 10:42 * cait waves at kidclamp 10:41 * kidclamp waves 10:34 andreashm hi magnuse 10:14 magnuse hiya nlegrand andreashm 09:48 nlegrand ay up #koha 09:40 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21732 normal, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, If an item is marked as lost, any outstanding transfers upon it should be cancelled 09:40 ashimema History of your interaction with it is in the now RESOLVED DUPLICATE bug 21732 09:40 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, ASSIGNED , Reset a hold when it is missing after allocation 09:40 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21754 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Needs Signoff , If an item is marked as lost, any outstanding transfers upon it should be automatically cancelled 09:40 ashimema you didn't fancy tag teaming bug 21754 did you.. as it's moved so much since Owen's signoff on bug 20844 (from which this code was extracted/derived) I'd like a signoff by someone before I continue to QA it.. personally I think it hits all targets now. 09:40 ashimema hi cait 09:34 cait [off] small self hosted public library in Germany 09:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21769 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-restore file-exists 09:33 cait hm someone around who is more of a sysadmin than me and can take a look at bug 21769? 09:11 ashimema me too 09:10 cait magnuse: same :( 09:09 magnuse [off] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46095810 09:08 ere :( 09:08 magnuse two buildings collapsed 09:07 ere magnuse: why, what's happening? 09:06 ere hi #koha 09:06 * magnuse hopes koha people in marseille are safe 08:15 cait system preference AdvancedSearchTypes to make it searchable in advanced search 08:15 Archie^ tnx Cait 08:15 cait the list is set up in administration > authorized values 08:14 cait 952$c for MARC21 08:14 cait it's stored in the items 08:14 Archie^ hmm, where can i find it? 08:14 cait it has no effect on circulation rules, but it will be displayed and can be searched/limited on 08:14 cait you could use locations 08:12 Archie^ for instance i have a library that has "storages" like Medical/ Children books etc etc 08:12 Archie^ Hey do you guys know if it is possible to subcategorize Library in any way? 08:11 cait good morning josef_moravec :) 08:10 josef_moravec cait ;) 08:10 josef_moravec hi ciat 08:10 cait good morning #koha 07:57 Archie^ hi ALL 07:30 alex_a bonjour 07:29 wahanui hi, reiveune 07:29 reiveune hello 07:22 * magnuse waves 03:37 alexbuckley hi all 02:02 dcook Just got back from a fire alarm :D 02:02 dcook hola tcohen 01:58 tcohen we recycle workers each 10 reqs, usually set 4 workers 01:57 tcohen hola dcook 01:08 dcook Yeah that plugin sounds better 01:08 dcook "Actually, there are two big reasons your hypnotoad workers will grow. First, your code could have a bug that causes the process to increase in size very quickly. Second, you could just be doing operations that require a lot of memory for each request. Since you can't rely that Perl gives memory back to the system after using it, the process size can grow quite large." 01:08 lavamind sounds like it might be a bit less brutal than recycling after 50 requests 01:07 dcook Ooo that is cool 01:07 lavamind I also saw Mojolicious::Plugin::SizeLimit 01:07 dcook Check out debian/templates/koha-conf-site.xml.in 01:06 lavamind hrmm 01:06 lavamind oh really 01:06 dcook 50 requests* 01:06 dcook By default, Koha Plack workers recycle after 50 01:06 lavamind I reduced the number of workers to 6 and added 2 spare workers 01:06 dcook Probably will 01:06 lavamind well anyway, I'll see whether recycling workers every few hundred requests helps 01:05 dcook Now that I think about it, I have Plack instances running off a modified plack.psgi... and I don't think I've seen those modules have a huge impact on memory size 01:04 lavamind ah right, it's all there 01:04 dcook It preloads C4::Boolean, C4::Koha, C4::Languages, C4::XSLT, Koha::Database, etc 01:04 dcook I mean to start you could look at "debian/templates/plack.psgi" 01:04 lavamind hrmm 01:03 dcook It'd be trial and error for sure 01:03 dcook But that might have consequences I don't know 01:03 dcook Same database, same DBIC ResultSet files... so I'd say you could probably load Koha::Database as well 01:02 lavamind well, I would guess so since they're all spun up from the same template instance (database) 01:02 reiveune bye 01:01 dcook I guess with this approach, all the Koha instances would need to have the exact same schema... 01:01 lavamind I'm not so familiar with Koha internals though, so aside from XML::LibXML are there other heavyweights that come to mind ? 01:00 lavamind yeah, sure, YMMV 01:00 dcook But that's just guessing 01:00 dcook Those two files look like the entry point for the master process, so I'd say do it there 01:00 dcook Before getting to a state of listening for requests, do some setup 01:00 lavamind right, OK 00:59 dcook Mojolicious/Plack are way more straightforward than mod_perl but same concept 00:59 dcook This is what I used in mod_perl2: https://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/config/config.html#C_PerlPostConfigRequire_ 00:58 dcook Not 100% sure but I reckon so 00:58 lavamind so in bin/koha I'd just need to add eg. use XML::LibXML ? 00:56 dcook Oh or maybe "bin/koha" 00:55 dcook Err not instance specific* 00:54 dcook Not application specific but can be heavy 00:54 dcook Things like XML::LibXML would probably make sense 00:53 dcook As for what to load... that's why you'd need to do the profiling 00:53 dcook lavamind: I'm not super familiar with Mojolicious, but I'm guessing maybe in Koha::App::Koha? 00:51 lavamind dcook: do you have any idea which modules we could preload and how ? 00:12 * CrispyBran_lunch waves goodbye