Time Nick Message 00:11 dcook Margaret++ 00:14 dcook hehe "<oleonard> I'm not an expert, just a fan, but go ahead" 00:16 dcook @later tell oleonard Living in a world of trains is pretty cool. Except when there is trackwork. And there always seems to be trackwork at the most inopportune times... 00:16 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 02:05 dcook @karma dcook 02:05 huginn dcook: Karma for "dcook" has been increased 68 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 68. 02:05 dcook @karma 02:05 huginn dcook: Highest karma: "Joubu" (688), "cait" (618), and "tcohen" (372). Lowest karma: "failed" (-37), "ie" (-37), and "-" (-36). You (dcook) are ranked 22 out of 865. 02:05 dcook Wow... 22? I don't think I deserve that >_> 02:30 tuxayo Hi, can someone confirm that an item must have a valid itype? Then in a subcription the item type <select> should never be left empty right? 02:30 tuxayo But it's not a requiered field 02:34 tuxayo But a Koha instance, I find a lot of empty strings itypes. And i checked one and the subcription has an empty string value for itemtype 02:37 dcook Goood question 02:37 dcook I don't know for sure but I don't think I have any items that don't have valid itypes 02:38 dcook But I don't think I have many subscriptions that create items either 02:48 tuxayo dcook: « I don't think I have any items that don't have valid itypes» Great :D if you need to check, try 02:48 tuxayo SELECT itype, count(*) FROM items WHERE biblionumber IN (SELECT biblionumber FROM subscription) group by itype; 02:48 tuxayo Because of bug 20461 02:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20461 normal, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Pushed to Stable , New subscription form: "Item type" and "item type for older issues" fields are ignored 02:49 dcook Oh I have a lot of Koha instances I'd need to check O_O 02:49 dcook That's very interesting though 02:53 tuxayo dcook About subcriptions, you always fill the item type field right? 02:53 tuxayo «I have a lot of Koha instances I'd need to check O_O» 02:53 tuxayo at BibLibre we have a script that we run on each upgrade to catch such issues. 02:54 tuxayo https://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/tools/src/branch/master/koha/db_check_data.sh 02:54 tuxayo And I'm adding checks for this subscription issue. 05:26 marcelr hi #koha 05:27 josef_moravec1 hi marcelr 05:27 marcelr hi josef_moravec1 05:48 paxed shouldn't [% FILTER remove('\t') %] ... [% END %] strip away all tab chars from that block? 05:53 dcook Looks like that would just remove the first one? 05:53 dcook As it should be a regex 05:53 dcook Ah wait nevermind 05:53 dcook I have no idea 05:53 dcook http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Filters.html#section_remove_string_ 05:53 josef_moravec1 i wold try remove ('\t+')paxed: 05:53 dcook Yeah it's probably looking for a literal string of \t 05:54 dcook Oh my it's much later than I thought it was... 05:54 josef_moravec1 hi dcook ;) 05:54 dcook heya :) 05:54 * dcook needs to jet off in about 6 minutes 05:54 * dcook wonders how many support requests he can fit into 6 minutes 05:54 paxed interestingly, browsers on windows throw a fit if there's a tab char in json, but linux is happy with it 05:55 * paxed grumbles something about tab chars in database text fields 05:55 dcook Innnteresting! 05:55 dcook I'm surprised by that 05:57 paxed i guess the browsers offload the json parsing or validation to OS lib 05:58 paxed i think i tried the '\t+', but it still wasn't working 05:58 paxed ended up removing the tab chars in the db fields, but need to figure out a TT solution, or input field validation 06:07 dcook good luck paxed 06:07 * dcook is off for the weekend 06:17 fridolin hi there 06:39 alex_a bonjour 06:42 josef_moravec1 hi alex_a 06:45 alex_a hello josef_moravec1 06:45 reiveune hello 07:49 * ashimema tries to apease the Jenkins gods 07:55 * cait sighs 07:55 cait no more checkin notice from offline circ 07:57 cait AndrewIsh: around? :) 07:58 AndrewIsh cait: I am! 07:58 cait :) 07:58 cait just resetting my db to have a clean start 07:59 AndrewIsh OK, can we give it an hour or so? I've got a company meeting in 30 mins and am just catching up on Bugzilla at the moment 07:59 cait ah ok 08:00 * ashimema is also on the manic catch up after being out for 2 days 08:00 ashimema Morning cait 08:03 cait reminds me 08:03 cait does someone have an overview of waht information we send out via sip2? 08:03 cait or an idea... on how to figure that out? (patron information that is) 08:05 * andreashm waves 08:06 ashimema it should be in the SIP2 specs I would think 08:06 ashimema let me query colin.. the sip2 god here 08:06 cait i need what we send from Koha specifically 08:06 cait the specs is not clear enough there 08:07 cait i might en dup trying to read the code if none of you has somehting done already (little scared) 08:18 ashimema jenkins.. you're not telling the world you're happy again yet... 08:18 ashimema but I know you are.. 08:18 ashimema D8 just turned green 08:18 ashimema where are you jenkins? 08:23 ashimema D9 happy 08:26 marcelr ashimema: 08:26 marcelr ashimema: could you test a follow-up for me on shibboleth a bit later ? 08:27 marcelr bug 17776 08:27 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17776 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, BLOCKED , Shibboleth Authentication is broken in plack 08:27 ashimema sure 08:27 marcelr minor details.. 08:27 ashimema I'm currently fighting a bit of a backlog.. builds up quick doesn't it 08:27 ashimema but will certainly make time for shibboleth 08:27 marcelr empty your todo list 08:28 marcelr if it is important it comes back :) 08:29 ashimema lol.. I have 79 commits on master to asses for rmaint.. an Ill walkthrough to do for cait (with andrewish),.. an Ill backend to fix so testing can proceed on ill migrate functionality again.. 08:29 ashimema and that all before I start the real day job.. haha 08:29 ashimema all fun.. i'll get there 08:30 ashimema shout when you want me to take a look anyways :) 08:30 marcelr will do 08:30 marcelr it will be just to verify we dont break things 08:31 * andreashm is looking at bug 11512. 08:31 ashimema excellent 08:31 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 08:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11512 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Only allow to override maximum number of holds from staff as other overrides would never be filled 08:32 andreashm So before this was added to master basicaly hold overrides by staff never worked (never filled)? 08:32 cait correct 08:32 cait unless it was a 'too many' override 08:32 cait it it was an itemtype not allowed for holds or so it never worked 08:32 andreashm explains some weirdness with holds that we've seen 08:33 cait but you wouldn#t see that which led to problems 08:33 andreashm (=never filled) 08:33 cait yeah that was not well done, i am happy to see the fix 08:33 cait now at least behaviour shoudl be better 08:34 andreashm yes, but it's also making a mess for quite a few Swedish libraries (see the last comment on the bug) 08:34 cait woudl be nice to have a way of trapping the others too 08:34 andreashm apparently it's common to add holds for lost 08:34 cait yeah... but they woudl not trap 08:34 andreashm in Sweden 08:34 cait i think 08:34 andreashm nope, they did 08:34 cait ah, then it's an oversight we shoudl fix 08:35 andreashm we don't do that though (put holds on lost books), so never had a problem with it 08:35 cait it's when you disallow holds on lost from opac but want to still do it in staff? 08:35 andreashm I think so 08:35 andreashm want to make it possible for staff to override 08:36 cait i've commented on the bug 08:36 andreashm great! 08:39 cait hm just realized it hasn'tbee pushed yet 08:39 cait doh. 08:39 cait so we could still fix it 08:39 cait marcelr: what do you think? 08:39 cait oh it is pushed... i am confusing myself today. *me goes to sort things out* 08:39 marcelr hi cait 08:39 cait ignore me (this time) 08:39 cait i confused bugs 08:39 marcelr nooo 08:40 marcelr bugs confuse me too 08:40 * andreashm is always confused, more or less 08:40 cait you people are nice :) 08:52 cait morning jzairo :) 08:56 andreashm It seems we missed the introduction of the MarkLostItemsAsReturned syspref and the change of the default behaviour of the the longoverdue.pl script when we upgraded to 17.11. Lots of lost books now returned. Ouch. 09:21 marcelr ok ashimema have a try 09:21 marcelr dont be scared for the last follow-up :) 09:22 marcelr restart Plack ! 09:23 ashimema ta 09:24 ashimema just reading bug 18947 at the minute, but you'll be next once I have ;) 09:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18947 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Unexpected Active Directory LDAP authentication failure mode 09:25 marcelr ashimema: note that i amended your second patch too; but that is just text 09:36 RudyW Testin Koha 18.05 on Ubuntu 18.04 - Getting Ldap error 09:36 RudyW LDAP search failed to return object : 000004DC: LdapErr: DSID-0C0907C2, comment: In order to perform this operation a successful bind must be completed on the connection. 09:37 RudyW (same configuration working on Koha 16.04 / Ubuntu 16.04) Any ideas? 09:37 ashimema that's the same issue that's just been reported on the above bug.. last couple of comments 09:37 ashimema I'm investifating 09:39 RudyW Would any logfiles from our system be helpful? 09:40 ashimema marcelr that's a nice followup.. good bit of code cleaning.. 09:40 marcelr tested it ? 09:40 ashimema I can't see any issue with it.. just going to load it into my test rig to check for real now 09:40 marcelr right 09:41 ashimema I have a habbit of reading first, then testing second ;) 09:42 marcelr dont stop good habits 09:49 magnuse \o/ 09:50 marcelr hi magnuse 09:50 josef_moravec1 hi magnuse 09:52 magnuse moin marcelr and josef_moravec1 09:53 magnuse hm... i turned on RESTOAuth2ClientCredentials, and "about koha" complains about Net::OAuth2::AuthorizationServer missing. but "sudo apt-cache policy libnet-oauth2-authorizationserver-perl" says 0.17-1~koha+1 is installed 09:54 magnuse "sudo apt-get install libnet-oauth2-authorizationserver-perl" says libnet-oauth2-authorizationserver-perl is already the newest version (0.17-1~koha+1). 09:54 magnuse perl -e "use Net::OAuth2::AuthorizationServer" says "Can't locate Crypt/PRNG.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Crypt::PRNG module)" 09:54 magnuse anyone got a clue how to get out of this conundrum? 09:55 magnuse i could'nt apt-get install libcrypt-prng-perl. should i try cpan'ing it? 09:56 matts magnuse, I had to cpan it, yes. And it did the trick. 10:00 ashimema @later tell kidclamp ca you catch me when you come online.. want to discus ldap quickly after a couple of people reporting issues this morning resulting from bug 18947 10:00 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 10:01 kidclamp been reading it ashimema 10:01 kidclamp also, hi! 10:01 davidnind https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20826 10:01 huginn Bug 20826: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , libnet-oauth2-authorizationserver-perl not installable on 32bit systems 10:01 marcelr hi kidclamp 10:02 kidclamp should a user, once buond as themself, be able to lookup themself? 10:02 ashimema oh.. thought it was too early for you 10:02 kidclamp we upgraded a site to 18.05, they had ldap issues but we added anonymous_bind=0 and it started working 10:02 kidclamp I try to get up this early, have just been failing lately :-) 10:02 kidclamp hi marcelr 10:03 ashimema hehe 10:03 ashimema well I 'think' you can disable all 'search' for users in an ldap directory as a blanket security policy 10:03 ashimema so although they should be able to see themselves they cant 'find' themselves via search 10:03 magnuse matts: thanks! 10:03 cait kidclamp: before i ofrget - will you send roles page to the mailing lists? we also need to add to next general meeting agenda 10:04 ashimema must admit though.. it's been a while since I dug deep into ldap :( 10:04 ashimema our ldap code is a mess.. I've been meaning to clarify it for years 10:07 RudyW kidclamp, where exactly did you add anonymous_bind=0 ? 10:07 ashimema in the config RudyW 10:07 kidclamp I also commented out the user/pass defined in the config (but ours was bogus) 10:08 ashimema are you doing replicate or create kidclamp? 10:08 RudyW ok, let me try that 10:08 ashimema i've narrowed it down to those being enabled 10:09 kidclamp replicate, not create 10:09 ashimema seems in LDAP there is no way to 'get me' without doing a search upon yourself 10:09 ashimema that's annoying 10:09 ashimema it's this line that's fireing and causing the error I think: https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/master/C4/Auth_with_ldap.pm#L175 10:10 ashimema RudyW.. could you try something for me in a minute? 10:11 RudyW Sure, let me know 10:11 ashimema in your koha.conf try disabling auth_by_bind (i.e. set it to 0) 10:12 kidclamp we didn't change that line though :-) not in 18947 anyways 10:12 ashimema that way it'll go back to a search before bind patturn 10:12 RudyW ok, that I tried already. It did not make difference 10:12 ashimema no.. but we changed the anonymous setting so it was handled more accurately 10:12 ashimema :( 10:12 ashimema ok 10:13 kidclamp though in the case reported on the bug - if you hd user/pass defined, then anonymous was not enabled 10:14 ashimema it makes no sense to have anon_bind set to 0 and also have a username and password defined 10:14 ashimema that's silly 10:15 ashimema they're mutually exclusive 10:15 ashimema aren't they? 10:15 ashimema certainly in the auth_by_bind approach 10:15 kidclamp sorry, it was previous to 18947 - if you had no user pass then anon_bind was assumed enabled 10:15 kidclamp even if you said nop 10:16 ashimema and we don't really do non auth_by_bind anymore.. it used to mean auth_by_password_comparisson if auth_by_bind was off 10:16 kidclamp so auth_by_bind wouldn't work without a user pass, though you shouldn't need them, as you should bind as the user 10:17 ashimema right now.. if you enable anon then you are explicitly throwing away user + password in effect 10:17 ashimema it was the oposite way around before 10:17 ashimema if you had user + password then you explicitly threw away anon_bind as a setting 10:17 ashimema I think we need to throw warning about incompatible configurations 10:18 ashimema for a create or replicate senario we always need a user that can search the ldap directory.. whether that's an anon user, a service user or the user searching for themself 10:19 ashimema does that make sense? 10:20 kidclamp I think it does - what I don't really see is what changed in the code that would cause new errors to pop up 10:20 kidclamp at least with the config example in the report 10:20 kidclamp but I just woke up too, so take me with a grain of salt 10:21 ashimema I'll do a quick before and after.. on sec 10:25 marcelr ashimema: did you finish the shibboleth thing btw ? 10:25 ashimema not yet.. sorry.. I got pulled into this ldap thing 10:26 marcelr no problem. just add a comment on bz 10:26 marcelr thx 10:26 marcelr have to go now 10:26 marcelr bye #koah 10:26 marcelr koha 10:33 RudyW for that ldap thing - should I just wait for the next release? - I'm only testing so no rush for me 10:33 ashimema deffo wair for 18.05.05 at least 10:34 ashimema even if I fix it today, it wont be out there until we've gone through so, qa and release 10:34 ashimema ;) 10:36 eythian Oh just missed marcelr. I'm biking to his city in an hour or so. 10:40 cait email? :) 10:42 eythian Well, I'm basically biking to the train station and taking that to Amsterdam, so doesn't warrant an email. 10:43 cait ah 11:24 josef_moravec1 cait++ for trying to pass through ILL patches jungle ;) 11:24 ashimema watch out for the snakes 11:24 cait working with Andrew on it - send him cookies 11:25 cait AndrewIsh++ 11:25 josef_moravec1 cookies for all! 11:25 ashimema Janet loaded him up with Ginger cookies yesterday.. 11:25 cait ok... hten maybe send me cookies! 11:26 * ashimema presumes AndrewIsh actually had some? 11:26 AndrewIsh They were nommy 11:26 * andreashm wants cookies now 11:26 andreashm ha! found some. 11:27 andreashm perks of working from home 11:28 cait marcelr++ # pqa on bug 17776 11:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17776 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Passed QA , Shibboleth Authentication is broken in plack 11:28 cait confetti! 11:28 wahanui o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 11:29 cait does someone have a moment to take a look at bug 21496? 11:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21496 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , install.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Index column size too large. The maximum column size is 767 bytes. at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/RunSQL.pm line 273. 11:31 ashimema I can add it to my list cait.. but it's a long list at the moment so hopefully someone will get to it before me. 11:31 * ashimema sends cait virtual cookies 11:34 oleonard Hi #koha 11:34 josef_moravec1 hi oleonrad 11:39 cait the no calories cookies... virtual :) 12:38 AndrewIsh Anyone know how to get "git bz apply" to apply bugs lower in the dependency tree first? 12:39 oleonard AndrewIsh: It should do that automatically 12:39 oleonard Are you sure you're using the latest version? 12:39 AndrewIsh Highly unlikely ;-) I'll update it! Thanks oleonard 12:40 cait you might need to switch the branch 12:40 cait my devbox says it's using apply_on_cascade 12:40 AndrewIsh Oooh, interesting 12:40 cait oleonard: you are working with kohadevbox too, right? 12:40 AndrewIsh I'm on fishsoup branch, whatever that is 12:41 AndrewIsh I'll switch, thanks cait 12:41 cait is there a apply_on_cascade in yorus? 12:41 cait the kohadevbox seems to only have that branch, which is a little odd 12:41 AndrewIsh Seemingly not, weird 12:41 cait but it works well 12:41 AndrewIsh https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration mentions the apply_on_cascade branch 12:42 cait yep that matches with what i see 12:42 AndrewIsh Aha, I re-cloned and I now have that branch 12:42 ashimema lol 12:42 cait this is good 12:42 cait we already updated/clarified some docs today 12:43 AndrewIsh Yay, it now works :-D 12:43 magnuse have fun #koha! 12:56 cait severine++ # sign off on bug 15774 12:56 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15774 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Additional fields for baskets 13:01 caroline good morning! 13:03 oleonard Hi caroline 13:04 * oleonard accepts caroline's good morning and applies it effortlessly to his time of day 13:04 cait heh 13:04 cait oleonard: love your sketches :) 13:04 cait good morning caroline :) 13:07 oleonard Thanks cait! 13:34 tcohen morning 13:34 Margaret good morning #koha 13:35 caroline Hi tcohen, Margaret! 13:35 Margaret hi caroline 13:36 caroline We just got a call about https://restaurants.libroreserve.com/en/ (they mistook libro and inlibro) 13:38 oleonard Did you successfully sell them Koha? 13:38 caroline no :( 13:38 caroline Maybe libki if they were an "internet cafe" (do these even exist anymore?) 13:44 oleonard I'm going to start an internet cafe which only provides access to the internet of 1998. 13:44 oleonard Bye guys, I'm super-rich now. 13:44 caroline XD 13:45 caroline The cafe will be filled with sounds of modems connecting 13:45 caroline And no one will be able to use the telephone at the same time 13:46 caroline ah. the good old days! no multitasking ;) 13:46 andreashm =) 13:47 ashimema oleonard around? 13:47 oleonard No I'm counting my riches following my billion-dollar internet cafe business idea 13:47 ashimema lol 13:48 ashimema JS12: I'm stuck tryig to rebase something to conform to it :( 13:48 ashimema is there anything obviously wrong here to you: https://github.com/PTFS-Europe/koha/commit/ae082018aabffbceb1ef5bc2bffb47452b1be80c 13:48 ashimema ? 13:48 ashimema pretty please 13:50 oleonard I can't see anything just by eyeballing it. What problem are you seeing? 13:51 * LeeJ waves 13:51 LeeJ hi #koha 13:51 ashimema `[% Asset.js("js/pages/stockrotation.js") | $raw %]` isn't loading whatsoever 13:51 caroline Hi LeeJ! 13:51 ashimema the rest seems to be 13:51 LeeJ caroline: hello! :D 13:51 caroline Good to see you! 13:51 LeeJ caroline++ # for running the meeting in my absence 13:51 LeeJ caroline: glad to have a working connection! :D 13:55 LeeJ caroline: so to catch up, are all the current release notes reflected in taiga? 13:55 caroline let me check 13:55 LeeJ caroline: okay :) 13:56 tcohen ashimema: found it :-D 13:56 tcohen [% USE Asset %] 13:56 tcohen :-P 13:56 caroline LeeJ: I didn't do the one from 2 days ago https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-release-notes/commits/master 13:57 LeeJ caroline: so it's updated except for the latest updates from 2 days ago? 13:57 oleonard Oh dang I thought I checked that tcohen! 13:57 ashimema ahh.. thanks! 13:57 caroline yup 13:58 caroline And I only checked the new features and enhancements, I didn't go through the bug fixes 13:59 LeeJ caroline: okay...thank you for picking up the slack for me! <3 I'll resume control if it's okay with you now that I have time :) 13:59 LeeJ caroline: per Joubu in the past, bug fixes don't get documented anyway :) 13:59 caroline yup! no problem! 13:59 caroline That's what I figured 14:00 andreashm bye #koha 14:02 * LeeJ flexes manual muscles 14:03 cait jajm++ 14:03 oleonard LeeJ: https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/PaleHarmlessGartersnake 14:03 LeeJ oleonard: exactly! 14:06 LeeJ caroline: this is the commit you didn't do, correct? https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-release-notes/commit/9a5004f02321f749d640aa7912df09444f68de2e 14:06 caroline LeeJ: that is correct 14:07 LeeJ caroline: okay :) 14:07 LeeJ feels great to be back 14:07 LeeJ my job has been stressing me out so much lately with so much stuff out of my hands :( 14:11 cait oleonard: we just wondered if you could take a look at ILL at some point :) 14:11 cait saying.. it needs owen 14:12 alex_a_ Anyone knows who's in charge of community domain name here? 14:12 alex_a_ I need a new one for Mana server 14:12 cait alex_a_: rangi can do it i think - but all names should be listed on the wiki 14:12 cait who hosts what page 14:12 caroline https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Website_Administration 14:12 caroline (incidentally, the page was already open in my browser) 14:13 alex_a_ no name for mana-kb.koha-community.org 14:13 alex_a_ So rangi ? 14:14 oleonard You'll have to @later him alex_a_, he may not be in until after the weekend 14:15 caroline I've seen him around on friday evenings (for us, so saturday morning for him) 14:15 alex_a_ I'll use an old technology: email 14:16 * LeeJ looks up from release notes to kidclamp and blinks...27 enhancements added from 2 days ago? Really?! haha 14:17 kidclamp push all the things? 14:17 kidclamp no LeeJ? 14:17 LeeJ haha 14:17 LeeJ kidclamp: you've been busy :) 14:17 cait there will be more 14:18 * LeeJ is terrified to run a git pull on his devbox because it hasn't been updated since early August 14:22 oleonard Oh I think that's the best 14:22 oleonard Love to see all those commits go by 14:22 * ashimema ducks 14:24 caroline kidclamp for you https://snag.gy/lqjkD9.jpg 14:24 caroline even has the mini blond mohawk like you 14:24 kidclamp yas! 14:24 caroline I should have added the mustache... 14:24 cait kidclamp: 3 or 4 ILL patches in your queue now... pleas push soon 14:24 cait this tree is growing 14:27 ashimema hehe 14:27 * ashimema is very hopeful SR is very close to PQA too now 14:27 * CrispyBran waves 14:27 ashimema tcohen++ has been awesome with it 14:28 * cait loves all the action and progress :) 14:29 caroline what is SR? (just curious) 14:29 caroline looking through https://www.acronymfinder.com/SR.html and it's not much help 14:29 kidclamp Stock Rotation 14:30 CrispyBran Can anyone here help me break down the GetDescriptionByKohaField subroutine in AuthorisedValues.pm? I need a little help understanding how it works. 14:31 CrispyBran Line by line, preferably. 14:34 ashimema ta kidclamp for clarifying SR = Stock Rotation 14:34 ashimema which in turn should not be confused for RC = Rotating Collections ;) 14:34 ashimema they're rather different features 14:35 caroline what is the difference? 14:37 * oleonard stage-whispers NOBODY KNOWS 14:50 kidclamp as I understand the basics: rotating collections defines a group of items, then you can move that group around - stock rotation defines a 'rota' or set of conditions for moving items - you attach an item to that rota and then it travels on it's own 14:50 kidclamp but I could be wrong 14:53 caroline thx for the explanation kidclamp 14:54 caroline what's the use case? is it like the item modification by age on steroids? 14:59 corilynn trying to checkout sandbox 6 with no joy :( 15:00 ashimema perfect kidclamp 15:00 ashimema really well summarised 15:00 ashimema sorta yes caroline 15:00 ashimema public libraries in the UK are cash poor ;).. 15:01 ashimema So.. when a popular book comes out they don't buy one copy for each branch, but one copy for all branches to share.. 15:02 ashimema to make sure each branch gets a turn the book is added to a 'rotation plan' and it then sits at a branch untill it's alloted time is up, then gets automatically moved to the next branch in the chain where it again sits untill it's time is up again 15:02 cait corilynn: what#s the problem? bywater sandbox? 15:03 ashimema our understanding on 'Rotating Collections' was that it was much more about the collecting of a group of books in the same place at the same time.. so for say a book club or display 15:03 corilynn the biblibre sandbox from the wiki/video I just watched. I want to poke around bug # 18823 15:03 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18823 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Advanced editor - Rancor - add ability to edit records in import batches 15:03 corilynn that one 15:03 ashimema they could be specialised cases of each other.. tcohen and I are discussing how we migh achieve that 15:04 reiveune bye 15:06 corilynn cait, are there bywater sandboxes as well? 15:07 tuxayo josef_moravec1: around? 15:07 josef_moravec1 tuxayo: yes 15:09 caroline ugh. I wrote a big response to you ashimema but accidentally press the down arrow and my text disappeared... oh well... thanks for the explanation :) 15:09 ashimema oops 15:09 ashimema no worries 15:10 tuxayo caroline: does ctrl-z on the field helps? Which irc client are you using? 15:10 caroline Smuxi 15:11 oleonard Gesundheit 15:11 caroline I wish they made a nice looking irc client. They are all so ugly 15:12 Freddy_Enrique Smuxi... 15:13 Freddy_Enrique uhm... try pidgin :3 15:13 Freddy_Enrique Greetings everyone 15:13 caroline Hi Freddy_Enrique! 15:13 tuxayo josef_moravec1: I though you where going to start a major work on bug 18723 as I saw you assigned. But I missed you patch which is quite simple. 15:13 tuxayo Anyway, bug 12310 will be rebooter with simpler specs after discussions during KohaCon. So I feared that we would have conflicting works. 15:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18723 critical, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Failed QA , Dot not recognized as decimal separator on receive 15:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12310 major, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Failed QA , Decimal separators issues in patrons payments/fines 15:13 tuxayo *rebooted 15:14 caroline Pidgin says "We do not provide pre-built packages for Linux and Unix distributions." ugh... 15:14 tcohen caroline: sudo apt install pidgin? 15:15 caroline thx tcohen! They could at least put that on the page 15:17 CrispyBran Question: in the opac, if an opac description doesn't exist for an authorised value, should the opac default to the regular description or code? 15:18 caroline I thought it was the regular description 15:18 josef_moravec1 tuxayo: on 18723, I tried just to cover the basic error which make a problem for us at production (although I belive there is workaround), but my patch is not working very well and it needed more attention, i just haven't had time yet ;) 15:19 josef_moravec1 tuxayo: there is definitaly much more problems in the way Koha is working with prices... 15:20 tuxayo josef_moravec1: I have to hurry so I can also adapt it to bz 18823 so you could test if it's okay for you. 15:20 josef_moravec1 tuxayo: Just an idea: what if we have a parse/create function for making price object from string - similar like dt_from_string makes datetime object... it could help... just an idea 15:20 josef_moravec1 tuxayo: no problem, i would like to test it 15:21 CrispyBran caroline, it might currently, but I'm wondering if it should, or if it should fail to the code. I could see arguments for both. 15:21 caroline CrispyBran: what would be the arguments for code? 15:22 CrispyBran If the regular description has content for staff eyes only. 15:22 CrispyBran Although, I guess if someone is going to do that, then they should create an Opac Description 15:23 caroline That's what I was going to say 15:23 CrispyBran Thanks for helping me walk that out 15:25 josef_moravec1 have to go, bye koha 15:25 caroline Freddy_Enrique: what did you put in the "User" box when you configured your pidgin? 15:32 corilynn cait (or someone?), now I see the bywater sandboxes, and I've clicked on "create" but what do I put for Git remote & branch for 18823 15:33 bag I am asking khall to come to into channel so he can answer your questions 15:33 cait thx bag 15:33 * oleonard waves to bag 15:33 cait corilynn: sorry, was distracted, but khall knows all the things about sandboxes 15:34 corilynn kewl 15:34 corilynn thx bag, cait :) 15:34 bag :D 15:36 corilynn khall_, I hear you are the person to talk to about sandboxes 15:37 khall corilynn: if you are talking about http://sb1.sandboxes.bywatersolutions.com/ you are correct! 15:37 corilynn I can be talking about those ones... 15:37 corilynn my current question is: I've clicked on "create" but what do I put for Git remote & branch for 18823 15:38 khall corilynn: you can leave those empty in this case, because that bug ( as most bugs do ) has the patches attached to the report itself. 15:39 corilynn kewl 15:39 khall instead you should just puddt the bug number in the box where it says "Enter Koha community bug number" 15:39 corilynn did do that... 15:40 corilynn I'm super excited to test this bug :) 15:40 cait bug 18823 15:40 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18823 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Advanced editor - Rancor - add ability to edit records in import batches 15:41 corilynn that's the one 15:42 oleonard cait: With so many pending ILL patches I feel like I need to wait before I can take a look 15:43 tuxayo josef_moravec1: what came out is this: https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/2/pad/edit/IqrmR9fXeGL5g9sCd70ki2j1/ 15:43 tuxayo paul_p discussed about bug 12310 with kidclamp at the KohaCon and they would push for simpler requirements than the ones that I got at the 2018 march hackfest 15:43 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12310 major, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Failed QA , Decimal separators issues in patrons payments/fines 15:44 cait oleonard: np, you are right about that 15:44 oleonard poor tuxayo and his white whale the decimal separator 15:44 cait it's quite a work in progress right now 15:44 cait tuxayo: i am still for match the input to the display ;) 15:45 cait so if we display with comma, allow that, and if wedisplay . do that 15:45 cait i saw that josef wrote a patch for the problem with the mix-up on receive 15:45 tuxayo oleonard: thanks for you compassion. 15:45 tuxayo i'm quite happy if we can get away with such simple specs. 15:45 cait we might want to have that anyway for backporting 15:47 caroline tuxayo: so if I understand the new specs correctly, only the dot will be allowed and it will block if we use a comma? 15:55 caroline cait, LeeJ I was not sure about this https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/task/699 should we put the gitlab url? right now its this http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=summary 15:56 corilynn khall, maybe I did something wrong? The advanced editor is hanging on "Loading, please wait..." (chrome & ff) 15:56 caroline The section is called "Contributing to the manual", I figured pointing to gitlab would be better? 15:58 cait good question 15:58 cait one is the official... but the other is our working repo 15:58 cait do you have a link to th epage? 15:58 caroline the page of the manual? 15:58 cait yes 15:59 caroline last line https://koha-community.org/manual/18.11/en/html/intro.html#contributing-to-the-manual 15:59 caroline I'm also adding a link to the wiki page on editing the manual 16:02 ashimema it's party time 16:02 tuxayo why? 16:03 tuxayo caroline: No, either both could be accepted. Or we could follow CurrencyFormat to allow only one separator on the same Koha instance 16:03 tuxayo cait if that can help the future patch to make it to master then so be it. Only allow the one in CurrencyFormat. And the librarians that needed that during the march hackfest could still push for a second patch allowing both comma and dot. 16:05 cait sounds good to me 16:05 cait but super tired right now, just leaving for the weekend 16:07 cait 306 changes on bugzilla - not bad for a friday :) 16:07 tuxayo cait: thanks for your help making the specs converge. 16:07 corilynn what's the status I should put if signoff isn't okay? 16:08 cait failed qa 16:09 cait with a comment of what didn't work 16:09 cait if it doesn' tapply 'patch doesn't apply' 16:09 cait ok, really leaving now :) have a nice weekend all! 16:22 ashimema have a good weekend cait 16:22 ashimema missed her 16:22 ashimema time for me to clock out too.. I'm shattered 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18887: DBRev 18.06.00.036 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2cb8e9755af0fdfd25bebc465f9a415d485ceea0> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21481: (QA follow-up) Remove last reference to text-extract2 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e78af533df94b155570116f6f7c4b5a2e5e4e2f2> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18887: Make DB update idempotent <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e76fa419d699c988eba92767c435dac01fc7c06> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21481: Remove reference of *-staff-help.po from koha-translate <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7feca40ba1ce8e57fadd78dc643cb7e3d5da5942> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21481: Remove obsolete files from translation toolkit <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e499dd5672e5b22ecbfe202146041d3715fc584> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21481: Remove *-staf-help.po files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=27130dbf9923cbf97f01810ec6dc230f96770170> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21481: Remove references to help from LangInstaller <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0de8cf1680caae6545ed8fdf371c6cd8b5d36b2> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18887: (QA follow-up) Remove last occurences of old max_holds <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3fb069f8eca1674a10cb2e502ea76ae9d4a90e2d> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18887: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a30b6b893824a8fece31e453e23125101338f84b> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18887: Replace croak with exceptions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e41933470849377d0dec2c93a71c9b8d1ddd5d8> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18887: Fix POD c/p issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac5e04b85d0ac05053e338f400a31dce3b0edb1e> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18887: Add foreign keys <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b489bc24e2b9c39110ed0ec7dc4f9ff28f12966> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18887: Add 2 missing html filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4f598764064e499fe0fee23b9873c388f41e6692> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18887: Use get_effective_rule instead of search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da9bd7521996c464c6488e9914b76847ba51a49e> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18887: Insert undef instead of '*' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f185785b8cb02a5882cb45219b7af39f99025ef0> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18887: Fix DB structure issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2eeee4c5253d8e30e51b4890849fcbee9c17ee67> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18887: Fix issues caused by rebase <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5c31b9c75e3beeeb26ab9f96c568e73ec932874f> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18887: (follow-up) Fix null/empty behavior <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9727d20582164da578d125db80576e72e050d2a> 16:25 ashimema :'( 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18887: (follow-up) Fix behavior for default branch/category <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a931e4e93cf706602551423e03b8702166bb41c> 16:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18887: Port max_holds rules to new CirculationRules system <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=35265c0a9bbdb20f40fa49f592aa9a772d27f253> 16:25 ashimema why do the queues always grow 16:26 kidclamp we 16:26 kidclamp we'd be more sad if they didn't ashimema 16:26 ashimema indeed.. very true 16:27 ashimema it's friday.. I'm tired ;) 16:27 ashimema catching up is gonna have to wait for monday for me I tihnk 16:28 * kidclamp sends ashimema a pint 16:28 * oleonard is happy to see the patch for Bug 21418 pushed 16:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21418 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Incorrectly filtered markup in staff client lists 16:28 ashimema :) 16:28 ashimema hope you'll be in Dublin next year kidclamp.. i owe you guys some pints ;) 16:29 kidclamp I'll do my best, I really got my eyes set on making NZ 16:30 ashimema lol 16:30 ashimema this morning my queue started at 79.. I just got myself to 12 and now I'm back to 79! 16:30 ashimema nicely done ;) 16:47 oleonard Anyone else getting an error in master when checking out? 16:47 oleonard Undefined subroutine &C4::Circulation::getnextacctno called at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Circulation.pm line 3194. 17:05 tuxayo As said in the previous messages (18:03), If there is no strong need to support both dot and comma as decimal separators, I'll go with only one (from CurrencyFormat) for the patch. 17:05 tuxayo cc caroline_lunch kidclamp ashimema oleonard . Is there someone else having an opinion on this? 17:06 kidclamp librarians probably, but is easier to get attention once we do it wring and they upgrade :-) 17:28 tuxayo kidclamp: thanks, let's do this, I'm sure they will prefer having to push for an enhacement patch if that's the price for not getting decimal truncation or x100 in the value ^^ 17:33 tuxayo «As said in the previous messages (18:03)» 17:33 tuxayo Hue hue hue I forgot that due to the roundness of earth, time isn't the same everywhere :D 17:47 tcohen @later tell mtompset I've added support for 'bionic' to kohadevbox 17:47 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 17:49 * cait waves 17:49 cait tcohen: can we talk koha-docker/kohadevbox sometime next week? 17:50 caroline tuxayo: Following CurrencyFormat but just for the decimal, right? No thousands separator 17:52 tuxayo caroline: Yes that's right. 17:52 caroline tuxayo: I'm cool with that 17:53 tuxayo caroline: thanks :D 18:00 tcohen cait: whenever you want 18:38 * CrispyBran waves 18:39 caroline Hi CrispyBran! 18:39 CrispyBran hello! 18:42 tcohen hi CrispyBran 18:43 CrispyBran hello 18:43 wahanui salut, CrispyBran 19:29 kidclamp have a good weekend koha 19:59 Freddy_Enrique see ya all :) 20:01 gveranis hi all I would like to ask something for apply patch on sandbox 20:01 gveranis can anyone ? 20:01 gveranis I receive a message like that 20:01 gveranis Apply? [(y)es, (n)o, (i)nteractive] Patch left in /tmp/Bug-19687-Undefined-subroutine-in-bulkmarcimport-N8pRY1.patch 20:02 gveranis that mean that the patch has not been applied ? 20:02 bag not yet - you need to say - yes 20:02 bag y 20:03 gveranis how ? 20:03 gveranis I receive it on a html page on sandbox 20:03 gveranis here : http://sb1.sandboxes.bywatersolutions.com/ 20:03 bag oh 20:03 bag hmmm khall you still here? 20:03 gveranis I don't think that I have access on code there ;) 20:04 bag yeah you don’t 20:04 bag I think it maybe a bug in the sandboxes - khall would know for sure 20:04 bag hey may have left for the day 20:06 gveranis ok thanks I will wait if not I try something else to sign-off this bug 20:06 khall gveranis: that means the bug you tried to apply no longer applies, you'll need to set the bug status to "Patch doesn't apply" and wait for the developer to fix it 20:06 * khall runs away ;) 20:06 gveranis ok thanks 20:06 khall gveranis: I would just delete that sandbox for the time being 20:07 khall test each bug on a fresh one :) 20:07 khall np! 20:07 gveranis yes I will do it 20:07 khall have a great weekend all! 21:59 Margaret_ Have a great weekend! 22:22 caroline bye all! I'll see you on Tuesday (Monday is canadian thanksgiving) 22:42 CrispyBran joubu: bug 21503 22:42 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21503 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cbrannon, Needs Signoff , Update AuthorisedValues.pm to fall back to code if description doesn't exist 22:48 barton ah, missed caroline by minutes (well, 10s of minutes...) 22:48 barton @caroline++ 22:48 huginn barton: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 22:48 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 22:48 barton ^^ for her work on bug 20565 22:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20565 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED MOVED, Clearer documentation of date, branches, itemtypes and categorycode parameters in 'Create report from SQL' help page. 23:14 CrispyBran joubu: bug 18355 23:14 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18355 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cbrannon, Needs Signoff , Permanent location should show with cart location