Time  Nick             Message
05:37 marcelr          hi #koha
05:40 dcook            hey marcelr and cait1
05:40 marcelr          hi dcook cait1
05:41 dcook            heh I was just about to write a fix but saw you already did it last year, marcelr
05:42 marcelr          a fix?
05:42 dcook            https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19190
05:42 huginn           Bug 19190: trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Silly calculation of average time in touch_all scripts
05:42 marcelr          ok
05:42 marcelr          i left a few others for you :)
05:42 dcook            lol
05:43 dcook            Excellent
05:44 dcook            Actually I have a QA question...
05:44 dcook            I had a problem in the inventory module and found https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19021
05:44 huginn           Bug 19021: minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, CLOSED FIXED, Inventory column sorting
05:44 dcook            And while the patch works... I don't know that it's the right solution?
05:45 dcook            But it's already pushed
05:45 marcelr          new report ?
05:45 dcook            Yeah?
05:45 dcook            I don't have an alternate patch. Rather, I think it's a data issue.
05:45 dcook            But still worth a new report?
05:46 marcelr          datatables and parameters is horrible
05:46 dcook            And then just do a "see also" for 19021?
05:46 marcelr          yeah
05:46 dcook            Cool. I'll do that then.
05:46 dcook            It might be that someone has a code idea as well
05:47 dcook            I certainly would appreciate another set of eyes on it as I'm not very familiar with the call number sorting code
05:48 marcelr          there will be (at some point)
05:48 marcelr          we only need patience
05:49 dcook            That makes sense
05:49 dcook            I might email the list as well as it might be that people have experienced the same problem
05:49 marcelr          yeah some advertizing might help
05:50 dcook            Basically, I think the method for generating items.cn_sort changed at some point but existing items weren't updated and it led to inconsistent values which causes a problem in the inventory item lists
05:50 dcook            I'm just struggling to find the exact code responsible for generating the value..
05:50 marcelr          adding a dbrev to update them now?
05:50 dcook            touch_all_items.pl solves the data problem after the fact though it seems
05:50 dcook            I was thinking that, but I don't know if that would work for large libraries?
05:51 marcelr          if it must be done?
05:51 dcook            If there are a million or more items, I wonder if it might time out
05:51 marcelr          they may not run from the web but on command line
05:52 dcook            Mmm good point
05:52 dcook            I forgot about that
05:52 dcook            And here I was thinking that Kohacon18 taught me to consider more workflows than just mine heh
05:53 dcook            Thanks for the feedback, marcelr. I'll do as you suggest.
05:53 marcelr          success
06:12 ashimema         Lol
06:16 ashimema         I Dev the same way as you dcook
06:16 dcook            Heh
06:16 dcook            I was wondering about that lol, but I'm guessing it was related to that tweet?
06:17 ashimema         Just read your post
06:17 dcook            Nice heh
06:17 dcook            I'm sure many of us do it that way
06:17 ashimema         I'm still running a good ol' Dev install
06:17 dcook            I tried my test plan for 10662 at Kohacon with a kohadevbox and I was like "how the hell did I ever think this would work?"
06:18 dcook            I do like my dev install though heh
06:18 ashimema         I tried gitify for a while but found it somewhat restrictive in the types of patches I could write and test
06:18 dcook            Same
06:18 dcook            Really restrictive for what I needed really
06:18 ashimema         Bug 10662
06:18 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Failed QA , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
06:19 dcook            Just need to find time to fix the comments from QA..
06:19 * dcook          waves to fridolin
06:19 ashimema         I like deving on a remote server.. switching back to the local workflow would be a bit painfuk
06:19 dcook            I know what you mean
06:19 fridolin         dcook: bonjour
06:19 dcook            Although at Kohacon it was essential
06:19 dcook            salut :)
06:19 dcook            Actually, the wifi at Kohacon18 was pretty good
06:19 ashimema         Mmm, for events like that it tends to be
06:19 dcook            The guest wifi was a million times better than home internet in Australia >_<
06:20 calire           mornin #koha
06:20 ashimema         The Marseille hackfest tends to be the main place I revert to local dev
06:20 dcook            Actually, at home we do have fibre but we just pay for a really low speed plan...
06:20 * dcook          waves to calire too
06:20 dcook            Yeah, I'm keen to do the Marseille hackfest too in 2019..
06:20 dcook            I'm actually really liking koha-testing-docker these days
06:21 ashimema         I should investing koha-testing-docker again really
06:21 ashimema         Haha
06:21 dcook            heh
06:21 ashimema         Yeah
06:21 dcook            I really like it
06:21 dcook            I've been thinking since January how I wanted to Dockerize more of my development and testing
06:21 dcook            I have 1 project that requires a VM at the moment, but I spent some time Dockerizing it yesterday
06:21 dcook            Although that one...
06:22 dcook            Sometimes I'd want a minimal database and sometimes I'd want one with like... a 100+GB database
06:22 ashimema         Right, time to do some breakfast..catch you another time
06:22 dcook            I guess I could handle that with runtime options though..
06:22 ashimema         Haha, fun
06:22 dcook            Sounds good. Nice catching you
06:27 calire           hey dcook
06:29 marcelr          hi calire
06:30 calire           hey marcelr
06:36 cait1            dcook: we haven't touched the cn_sort code in forever - depending on what you use maybe the dependency was updated? i think ddc/loc modules for generating the sorting are external libraries
06:36 cait1            bbiab
06:37 cait1            at least i know for sure loc is as we recently had to fix a wrong configuration
06:37 dcook            cait1: oooo that's really interesting and explains why I was struggling to find Koha code for generating the values
06:37 dcook            d'oh
06:38 dcook            @later tell cait1 I'd love to hear about your experience with the loc for call numbers. I'm using ddc but I feel like a dependency issue makes sense
06:38 huginn           dcook: The operation succeeded.
06:46 reiveune         hello
06:55 matts            hi!
07:03 calire           hi matts, hi reiveune
07:03 matts            hi calire :)
07:03 reiveune         hi calire
07:04 calire           o/ :)
07:07 paxed            cait1: seriously, you have articles from serials as component records? that's ...
07:08 cait1            paxed: special libraries, academics... not publics
07:08 cait1            for example the law libraries do that, they have divided up which library does which serials
07:08 cait1            we have libraries where a large percentage of the total records are analytics
07:09 cait1            dcook: still around?
07:09 paxed            cait1: ah. still seems weird, imo.
07:09 cait1            you need to have the staff to do it
07:09 cait1            we also have a library who provides data for a database of their field
07:10 cait1            a huge part of what they do is creating those records, adding subjects to them etc.
07:12 paxed            cait1: like you said, the issue level is missing from between. how do they know which issue contains which article?
07:12 cait1            it's in the 773
07:12 paxed            okay...
07:12 cait1            [off] https://bbf.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=bib-level%3Aa
07:13 cait1            393346 results that are anyltics
07:13 cait1            analytics
07:15 tuxayo           hi #koha o/
07:18 calire           hi tuxayo
07:18 marcelr          hi tuxayo
07:19 tuxayo           o/ calire marcelr
07:19 marcelr          cait1: 10382 remains a hard one
07:20 cait1            bug 10382
07:20 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10382 critical, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , collection not returning to null when removed from course reserves
07:20 cait1            i was hoping to see it finally fixed
07:20 magnuse          \o/
07:20 cait1            do we need the same fix for location btw?
07:20 marcelr          it should fix that one too
07:20 matts            hi cait1. I still stand by my sign-off on bug 17776. And I completely agree with ashimema 's last comment. However, I'm not a system administrator, and this is a system issue.
07:20 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17776 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , Shibboleth Authentication is broken in plack
07:21 cait1            matts: can you please comment that?
07:21 matts            cait1, sure thing.
07:21 cait1            trying to unravel the shibboleth mess
07:22 magnuse          cait++
07:23 cait1            looks like the automatic conversion of sql fails for all our reports :(
07:23 cait1            biblio_metadata
07:28 * dcook          perks up at mention of his name
07:29 dcook            cait1: yep still here for 30 minutes
07:32 ashimema         cait1
07:32 ashimema         or is it now cait
07:32 cait1            just wondering if you had a question
07:32 cait1            hm
07:32 ashimema         I forget what time of day she metamorphises
07:32 cait1            i don't notice being different people
07:33 ashimema         hehe
07:33 ashimema         split personalities are rarely aware of each other as far as I'm aware ;)
07:34 cait1            oh
07:34 cait1            who is nicer?
07:34 ashimema         hehe
07:34 ashimema         right now I like cait1.. she talked to me lots yesterday :)
07:34 ashimema         and is working to get shibboleth through :)
07:35 ashimema         every now and then that cait2 comes along.. she's a deadkill.. always failing qa on my patches
07:35 ashimema         hahaha
07:37 cait1            i once had someone explaint o me they liked cait more than kf
07:37 cait1            like seriously
07:37 ashimema         lol
07:37 ashimema         I like cait in all her guises
07:39 * ashimema       is amazed at how quickly code becomes foreign to him...
07:39 ashimema         I only wrote this patch a few months ago.. it's like another language now
07:39 cait1            was thinking the same abotu my database updte for granular admin permissions this morning
07:40 ashimema         Crazy isn't it
07:41 marcelr          i saw that code before :)
07:41 marcelr          o did i write it?
07:42 ashimema         Lots of code archaeology the last few days with people resurrecting patches.. has been fun
07:42 ashimema         Hehe
07:42 marcelr          what is fun?
07:43 paxed            cait1: yes, the automatic sql report conversion isn't very good, most of our reports also failed
07:44 * dcook          hasn't seen kf in a loooong time
07:48 cait1            that's because oftc doesn't like 2 character nicks
07:50 cait1            i couldn't reserve it and someone kept taking it
07:50 marcelr          kaef?
07:52 dcook            Boo
07:52 ashimema         i contemplated mrr or martinr.. but ashimema has more mistique to him
07:52 marcelr          and others too
07:52 dcook            heh
07:53 dcook            ashimema does seem a bit mysterious
07:53 marcelr          right
07:53 ashimema         hehe
08:17 * magnuse        lacks the imagination to come up with mysterious nicks
08:18 ashimema         haha.. I didn't come up with mine.. my original ISP did.. it was the password they gave me for my vrey first email address.. of course I changed it immediatly but the random set of character sounded cool so it stuck in my head
08:18 ashimema         ashimema was born
08:18 ashimema         wow.. 20 or so years ago now
08:19 magnuse          hehe, cool
08:21 marcelr          ashimema: you revealed the secret
08:21 marcelr          public domain now
08:21 ashimema         hehe
08:21 ashimema         yup
08:21 marcelr          hope you didnt change it to ashimema23
08:22 ashimema         haha
08:22 ashimema         the email address in question is long gone
08:22 marcelr          but passwords stay longer
08:22 ashimema         actually, it was my shorted lived email address ever
08:24 ashimema         right.. on that note I best get this ES demo setup.. gotta try and sell ES to the company next week.. well.. gotta sell it to myself first ;)
08:25 marcelr          jajm around
08:25 marcelr          cast(-2 as unsigned) == 18446744073709551614
08:34 * andreashm      waves
08:34 * cait1          waves back
08:35 jajm             marcelr, yes
08:36 andreashm        hi cait jajm
08:36 andreashm        matts: around?
08:37 matts            andreashm, around indeed.
08:37 jajm             hi andreashm
08:38 ashimema         sorry cait.. I'm really not helping move bug 21427 forward am I
08:38 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Format prices on ordered/spent lists
08:38 marcelr          jajm: i want to switch to signed on bug 18736
08:38 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18736 critical, P5 - low, ---, nick, BLOCKED , Problems in order calculations (rounding errors)
08:38 ashimema         we need kidclamp to weight in as he's been working on the rounding errors bug
08:38 ashimema         this is the same issue effectively
08:39 marcelr          heh i am on 18736 now
08:39 cait1            i am a little lost there right now
08:40 cait1            ashimema: my thing is i think adding them up exatly will probably work
08:40 cait1            because the values from the db are usually ok, we add up without doing tax calculations and stuff like that
08:40 cait1            adding up db values shoudl work ok
08:41 marcelr          cait1, ashimema i think 21427 should wait for 18736 first
08:41 cait1            opposed to doing tax calcuations and then add up
08:41 marcelr          18736 uses a module
08:41 marcelr          no sprintfs in scripts
08:41 cait1            all iwanted was a comma heh
08:41 cait1            :)
08:42 marcelr          a lot of time was spent on 18736 already
08:42 cait1            maybe we should not make display and calculation the same thing?
08:42 marcelr          thats a point
08:43 marcelr          it is also a matter of making a choice and keeping with it..
08:43 cait1            hm?
08:43 marcelr          which is hard in open source
08:43 marcelr          design choices
08:44 ashimema         indeed
08:44 ashimema         sorry.. just been called into my meeting.. I'm 10 mins late
08:44 ashimema         oops
08:47 ashimema         hows 18736 going marcelr
08:48 calire           naughty :D
08:48 ashimema         it was a hard slog when I started looking at it.. think it's changed qa hands a few times now.. with each of us spotting bits the last person didn't
08:48 marcelr          still working on it ashimema
08:48 ashimema         still.. hopefully it'll result in a consistent patch
08:49 ashimema         I'm not sure I like some of the fundamentals.. but it's a step in the right direction I think
08:49 marcelr          more consistency
08:49 ashimema         indeed
08:49 marcelr          if we are doing it wrong, lets do it in one spot
08:49 ashimema         exactly
08:51 cait1            i haven't checked it out, but i hope from your comments
09:00 ashimema         matts: thanks for the shib comments.. I think they're really helping move this one forward.. combined front and all that.. I'm happy the questions are being asked but also happy to see your in agreement with me on the answers :)
09:01 matts            sure :)
09:04 andreashm        is there one or more shib bugs being worked on?
09:04 * andreashm      could search Bugzilla, but is lazy
09:05 ashimema         jajm has been doing a marvelous job of working through the list :)
09:06 cait1            andreashm: working on a resolve for the 'shibboleth under plack' problem
09:06 cait1            there is also shibboelth for staff in the works
09:06 matts            andreashm, yep, there's stuff happening on 18506 18507 and 12027
09:06 cait1            and i think something about provisioning/sync, ashimema?
09:06 andreashm        both would be great for us. keep at it! =)
09:07 andreashm        thanks matts
09:14 ashimema         add 19625 to that list above.. i've just QA'd it
09:14 ashimema         https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=8446
09:16 andreashm        thanks ashimema
09:39 andreashm        A bit off topic, and not Koha related, but is there any space (slack, irc or other?) for more informal Coral discussions, other that github and the Coral mailinglists? ping matts calire paul_p
09:40 matts            andreashm, there's a #coral-erm chan on freenode, but it's not really used. So I'd stick with the mailing lists or git for the moment.
09:41 calire           andreashm I had been wondering the same thing
09:41 * andreashm      likes slack. should we start one? =)
09:41 matts            But if you all join the freenode chan, it can become a thing :)
09:42 * andreashm      should join there first I guess
09:43 andreashm        matts++
09:45 calire           how do I get on the freenode channel -.-
09:47 andreashm        calire: I was wondering the same.
09:47 calire           I got in through the web browser, but couldn't make pidgin accept it
09:48 * andreashm      usually uses the web-chat for irc
09:48 cait1            might be our firewall
09:48 calire           then just freenode.not
09:48 calire           .net
09:49 andreashm        ah, thanks
10:36 ashimema         erm
10:36 ashimema         anyone here especially good with TT filters and how they apply?
10:36 ashimema         I've got this code in a rebase
10:36 ashimema         `[% request.orderid || "N/A" | html %]`
10:36 ashimema         it doesn't look right to me.. but I can't put my finger on it.
10:58 ashimema         it's not oleonard awake time yet is it?
11:01 paxed            ashimema: i think that's valid, but putting it like [% (request.orderid || "N/A") | html %] might make it clearer?
11:05 cait1            back
11:07 cait1            agree with paxed
11:30 oleonard         Hi all
11:31 eythian          hi oleopard
11:34 ashimema         cheers
11:34 ashimema         yeay, oleonard :)
11:35 ashimema         I just rebased 20640 again for you.. hopefully you might have a moment to test it again :)
11:35 ashimema         AndrewIsh: said you were keen at some point?
11:36 ashimema         it's a lovely enhancement in my opinion.. but rebasing it each time screws with my brain (and andrewish's)
11:37 andreashm        bug 20640
11:37 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20640 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Allow migrating a request between backends
11:37 AndrewIsh        Heh heh, oleonard made the mistake of raising his head above the parapet with regards to ILL recently. Also, magnuse might be interested in taking a look?
11:37 ashimema         as a side note.. anyone got any opinions on how I can write tests for these enhancements to ILL.. even once we've moved backends to Plugins ILL isn't testable without at least one backend installed.. or I suppose Mocked
11:37 ashimema         hmm..
11:37 * ashimema       wonders about mocking backends.. that could work
11:38 ashimema         I'm hopeing I can add tests as late followups.. save the lack of tests holding back QA
11:38 * oleonard       loaded a bunch of dummy ILL data into his test system and feels empowered to test
11:39 ashimema         awesome
11:39 AndrewIsh        oleonard++
11:43 cait1            oleonard: share your tricks? :)
11:58 oleonard         Maybe I spoke too soon... getting an error that looks like it might be a data problem
11:58 oleonard         Duplicate ID at /usr/share/perl5/Exception/Class/Base.pm line 73
12:05 magnuse          is the N/A in [% (request.orderid || "N/A") | html %] translateable?
12:10 cait1            magnuse: hah!
12:10 cait1            no idea, but that's a really good question
12:16 * kidclamp       waves
12:16 * ashimema       cries at magnuse asking that
12:16 ashimema         I have no idea
12:17 ashimema         I can't remember is orderid is numeric or a string to be honest either
12:19 cait1            oderid is not hte problem
12:19 cait1            it's numeric and a database value
12:19 cait1            but n/a = not available is not he same in every language
12:20 cait1            my guess it.... it's probably a bad idea doing that
12:20 ashimema         indeed
12:20 cait1            and it would be something like [% IF ( request.orderid ) %] ... [% ELSE %] ... instead
12:20 cait1            hm maybe if it'sill not numeric... but still a database value so shoudl be ok
12:46 caroline         Good morning!
12:50 calire           hi caroline
13:00 * cait1          sends fridolin cookies
13:03 oleonard         jajm++ # Thanks-to: The Rebellion for being very supportive
13:04 cait1            lol
13:09 ashimema         how does that look for release notes cait1
13:10 cait1            hm?
13:10 magnuse          AndrewIsh++
13:10 cait1            there is this bugzilla input on the left, did you see?
13:10 cait1            oh you did
13:10 AndrewIsh        magnuse++
13:10 cait1            sorry, reading now
13:10 ashimema         on the left.. I thought it was on the right
13:10 cait1            AndrewIsh: we got a date on Friday, right? :)
13:10 cait1            ashimema: :P
13:10 ashimema         that's where I've entered it ;)
13:10 AndrewIsh        cait1:  Apparently so :-D
13:11 jajm             oleonard, :)
13:11 cait1            ashimema: it#s ok, but maybe bit cryptic to reference the POD?
13:12 cait1            people might not know what POD is, i get asked often
13:12 ashimema         ok
13:13 cait1            brb
13:14 caroline         POD: prince of darkness? payable on death? https://www.abbreviations.com/POD
13:15 oleonard         Thanks-to: The prince of darkness for being very supportive
13:15 caroline         LOL
13:16 ashimema         haha
13:20 cait1            lol
13:31 * magnuse        hopes he got the patches on bug 20996 right now
13:31 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20996 normal, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Fix API response time on ILL request endpoint
13:54 * cait1          loves the star wars example
13:54 cait1            jajm++
13:54 ashimema         huh
13:55 cait1            https://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Commit_messages&curid=2270&diff=22041&oldid=20964
13:57 magnuse          star wars?
13:57 magnuse          lulz
13:57 magnuse          jajm++
13:58 ashimema         nice :)
13:58 ashimema         I added that as a topic for the next dev meeting :)
13:58 ashimema         awesome to see jajm moving it forward
14:00 magnuse          hm. shouldn't items.datelastseen always be the same as or more recent than items.datelastborrowed?
14:00 oleonard         calire++
14:01 * calire         bows
14:01 calire           (what I do?)
14:02 oleonard         You did a good email
14:02 calire           oh good, it came through XD
14:07 caroline         Ooh! Love the new look calire and oleonard!
14:07 calire           thanks caroline :)
14:07 caroline         Such an upgrade from the grey/black
14:08 ashimema         yup, very nice
14:08 ashimema         I approve
14:10 calire           :)
14:10 magnuse          +1
14:11 ashimema         you asked for feedback.. added a future enhancement request after JD's comment ;)
14:11 caroline         We have a lot of complaints for the look of the details, that they are hard to read. We added custom CSS to make it into a table http://santecom-test.hapax.inlibro.net/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=86331&query_desc=kw%2Cwrdl%3A%20cancer
14:12 calire           ashimema, yes a dark mode was requested at the hackfest in Portland ;)
14:12 caroline         (I don't include myself in that "we", it's just my colleagues)
14:13 caroline         Is this something we could include in a future version?
14:13 ashimema         we have done simlar for customers a few times
14:13 ashimema         calires former employers for example: https://ual-test-upgrade.koha-ptfs.co.uk/
14:14 ashimema         see 'Screen Options' on the right
14:14 ashimema         though their themes are somewhat accessability minded
14:14 calire           yes I remember the screen options
14:14 ashimema         you either love them or hate them.. eye's bleed at times in my opinion with some of those
14:15 calire           XD
14:15 calire           I appreciate what they are for
14:15 ashimema         'default' and 'cream' are nice enough.. but the other two.. yuk
14:15 oleonard         That black with yellow text theme is bullying me.
14:16 calire           black with yellow is I cannot deal with
14:16 ashimema         hehe
14:16 ashimema         that's the 'Make my eyes bleed' theme to the max ;)
14:16 Freddy_Enrique   Good morning all
14:16 Freddy_Enrique   hi Caroline and ashimema
14:16 ashimema         I did a theme years ago for the dyslexia action group UK..
14:17 ashimema         that was really nice and very accessible with options like that
14:17 ashimema         but not eye bleeding
14:17 ashimema         shame.. they nuked it at an upgrade whilst I was on other projects
14:17 ashimema         it used special fonts and various pastel contrasts
14:17 ashimema         anywho.. moving on ;)
14:18 calire           accessibility is important
14:19 calire           caroline, is it the library users or library staff (who are also users) who found the detail page hard to read?
14:24 caroline         calire: I only talk to library staff through my job, I don't know if they speak only on behalf of themselves or if they're relaying complaints from their users
14:24 calire           caroline: fair enough :)
14:24 caroline         Hello Freddy_Enrique!
14:25 calire           caroline: the table is easy to read
14:25 oleonard         This doesn't make sense to me: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15381445630198
14:26 oleonard         Renew -- "Not allowed: overdue" ... but the item isn't overdue
14:26 calire           oleonard: I feel like I have see that before, but I cannot remember why
14:26 * calire         is helpful
14:27 calire           (like when people ask questions on amazon and someone answers with 'I don't know, I didn't buy this')
14:27 oleonard         Oh wait, it was the  OverduesBlockRenewing preference. Any overdue blocked all renewals.
14:27 calire           aha
14:27 calire           aaah yes
14:28 calire           so glad I could help
14:28 caroline         hehe!
14:30 caroline         Has anyone ever worked on a project to make editing the xslt easy for end users? (My colleagues laugh at me when I mention this)
14:30 * Freddy_Enrique want to ask something...
14:30 caroline         I'd love library staff to be able to tweak their own record display
14:31 caroline         Freddy_Enrique: go ahead!
14:31 Freddy_Enrique   I just noticed that I do not know to much about you guys. Do you have a...dont know, professional profile?
14:31 Freddy_Enrique   I feel anonymous sometimes....
14:31 oleonard         Freddy_Enrique: This is a start: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
14:31 calire           darn, oleonard was faster
14:32 caroline         That's my reference too
14:32 calire           but yes, the irc regulars page has some basic infos
14:32 kidclamp         https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Community_Facebook
14:32 oleonard         ...which is getting out of date, sadly.
14:32 Freddy_Enrique   OMG, its been a while since I am part of this channel and just asked this basic stuff
14:33 * Freddy_Enrique feel ashamed
14:33 ashimema         wow.. I have changed so little from that photo...
14:33 caroline         Ooh that Facebook page would have been really helpful before Kohacon... I was stalking a couple of you on linkedin to try to find pictures so I could recognize you
14:33 Freddy_Enrique   oleonard++
14:33 * ashimema       says realising he's sitting here wearing the exact same t-shirt!
14:34 calire           caroline, were you my 'someone is looking at your profile'
14:34 caroline         maybe! Lol!
14:34 oleonard         ashimema: Haha, same!
14:34 calire           ashimema, I hope you changed it since
14:34 caroline         I relaized not a lot of ppl put their picture on linkedin
14:34 ashimema         hehe
14:35 ashimema         ooh.. not seen LibraryClaire in a while
14:35 * calire         waves
14:35 ashimema         ;)
14:35 calire           :P
14:35 Freddy_Enrique   I wanna know which one of you is a dev geek and which are librarians
14:35 * ashimema       suggests she updates the facebook ;)
14:35 calire           oh yeah, could change that
14:35 * ashimema       misses atheia
14:35 * calire         too
14:36 oleonard         I miss atheia and I only met him once!
14:37 ashimema         I'd hire him back in an instant.. but he's moved on to other things
14:38 Freddy_Enrique   wahanui - info bot, greeter, troller.....troller??
14:38 Freddy_Enrique   XD
14:39 calire           wahanui confuses many
14:40 Freddy_Enrique   As you know... I am a librarian. But little by little learning beyond the koha management. Is it possible to add my name there?
14:40 ashimema         certainly
14:40 ashimema         add away :)
14:40 Freddy_Enrique   Or, is it just for dev?
14:40 calire           it's for everyone
14:40 caroline         Freddy_Enrique: I didn't know you were a librarian! More of us!
14:41 ashimema         it was originally added at a Marseille Hackfest... where librarians and developers are already invited together
14:41 ashimema         so it's a mix in there already :)
14:41 Freddy_Enrique   Yeah... a linux geek, peruavian librarian
14:42 ashimema         :)
14:42 Freddy_Enrique   My hearth goes for the pinguin
14:42 * ashimema       loved his visit to peru a few years back
14:42 Freddy_Enrique   :o
14:43 Freddy_Enrique   Glad you enjoyed it :3
14:43 Freddy_Enrique   And if you are into treking, really sure you enjoyed the landscapes
14:45 reiveune         bye
14:50 cait1            caroline: i did the same with you - stalking for a photo
14:50 cait1            hm i need to put a new photo there... the hair... ugh. and new glasses :)
14:51 caroline         My linkedin photo is old but I guess I look pretty much the same
14:52 * ashimema       wonders what cait looks like now.. in my head you still look like that picture ;)
14:52 cait1            ashimema: not that much different
14:52 cait1            shorter hair and new glasses :)
14:52 cait1            Freddy_Enrique: librarian :)
14:53 cait1            sorry... just reading back, you all talked so much while i was doing this other thing
14:53 ashimema         oleonard still about?
14:53 oleonard         Yes
14:53 ashimema         lol.. sorry cait
14:53 ashimema         I'm chatty today
14:54 ashimema         what away around were you testing the migrate but?
14:54 ashimema         from what backend to what backend?
14:54 ashimema         I'm just re-wrapping my head around this code.. it's been ages since I've properly dug into it
14:54 ashimema         also.. I will add a test plan..
14:54 * ashimema       is naughty :(
14:55 oleonard         ashimema: I think it was FreeForm -> Dummy
14:55 ashimema         ah..
14:55 ashimema         interesting
14:55 ashimema         thanks
14:55 * ashimema       checks Dummy.. I'm not sure if it's implimented there yet.. my bad
14:56 Freddy_Enrique   :cait1 yeeey
14:56 oleonard         ashimema: So, the test plan... :D
14:57 * Freddy_Enrique turns into reading mode
14:57 Freddy_Enrique   There I go Koha wiki
15:03 kidclamp         bug 21450
15:03 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21450 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , link_bibs_to_authorities.pl is caching searches without the auth type
15:08 kidclamp         ^ that was a nasty bug
15:10 cait1            kidclamp: now you are ignoring me ;)
15:11 kidclamp         where did you ping me?
17:23 caroline         Does Undefined subroutine &C4::Items::ModZebra mean I have to install C4::Items::ModZebra?
17:24 caroline         I'm trying to test bug 10382 but when I disable the course, I get this error
17:24 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10382 critical, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , collection not returning to null when removed from course reserves
18:04 kidclamp         It's an occasional problem where Koha doesn't know which file to look in - the general solutions is to fully qualify the function call caroline
18:04 caroline         fully qualify the function call?
18:06 caroline         Is that something I can do while testing and if so how?
18:14 * caroline       thinks she'll just go back to documentation instead of trying to sign off
18:16 kidclamp         heh, no, is for a dev, or try on a  different machine, I don't knwo what causes it
18:43 oleonard         Anyone want to try Bug 20809 again?
18:43 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20809 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Link patron image to patron image add/edit form
18:46 oleonard         Happy weekend everyone
18:47 ashimema         caroline++ looks to be an a testing spree.. thank you 😃
18:47 caroline         yeah, I was eager but gave up.
18:47 caroline         Back to the manual
18:48 ashimema         I'm also really happy and impressed with manual improvements too
18:49 caroline         It needs love still. And I don't want the docs team to be stuck in a crazy documenting spree in november
18:50 ashimema         I'm slowly onboarding our bods 😉
18:51 caroline         yass!
18:51 ashimema         Going to put forward next week at our company meeting that one of them join the team.. see what the boss people say
18:51 ashimema         For the next cycle that is
19:44 caroline         Native English speakers, does that sentence make sense in English? "If set to 'do', the holds slip print pop-up window will appear automatically upon checkin of a reserved item."
19:45 cait1            checking in a reserved item? (not a native speaker)
19:46 caroline         upon checking in a reserved item?
19:46 caroline         yeah, it sounds better
19:46 cait1            where are the native speakers?
19:46 caroline         on weekend?
19:47 cait1            ah
19:47 caroline         I was actually looking for comments on the part "holds slip print pop-up window" it doesn't sound good in my head
19:48 cait1            maybe we could scratch window?
19:48 cait1            pop-up is a thing already... isn't it?
19:48 caroline         the holds slip print pop-up will appear
19:50 caroline         I wasn't sure of holds slip print pop-up vs holds print slip pop-up
19:50 cait1            i wouldn't overthink it
19:50 cait1            ok now i am not too :)
19:50 caroline         rangi can always refuse my commit if it doesn't make any sense
19:50 cait1            he could, but he probably would
19:51 * caroline       is denying any responsibility for that sentence
19:51 cait1            wouldn't
19:51 cait1            hehe
19:51 cait1            he is a terrible proof reader
19:51 cait1            :)
19:51 caroline         XD
19:52 caroline         think I can ping some english natives? Is it too late in the evening?
19:52 caroline         for a friday evening
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e5750b27d4272cb7f001647090773197c495b918>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 16424: (QA follow-up) Use Modern::Perl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=35863802eab24bd39a75fcba0d16ac59dca6261e>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 21416: 'gr' option missing from ZEBRA_LANGUAGE options in koha-sites.conf <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=705571a2b870fbb652ca210e32ee3e7ca050e75f>
19:52 cait1            why not? they won't answer if they are not around :)
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 21407: Can't enter new macros in the advanced cataloging editor (rancor) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=01470fab9eabd3750746b540389de7a6d85fda05>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 21398: Make search field mandatory when adding to a basket from an existing record <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf89e4e124fb38982fa8b9708af1fb67fd16f982>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 21396: Add 2 missing use statements in Koha::Account <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b56e446ed64cad9d4dd42a8cb3f1953f424e0aa>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 21167: (QA follow-up) Use accounttype.inc for generating account description <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6a7516652115ccc49099f045ed8c23a9f29eb26>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 21167: (QA follow-up) Fix amount formatting on invoice receipt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c86485f933a0eabdb8af215c5b74c5416d2cb95a>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Handle framework code properly also when adding a new record <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b70d2bc281d70aad2dce0c6021b60e4075641e49>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Minor CSS change for the advanced editor Settings menu <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=72e2d729f290201b48e09192f0dc4b7fdd26db6b>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Make the svc/bib service keep the existing framework code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=02a0f3185c4aad3c712346e6bcedd0736725f699>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Add framework support to advanced MARC editor <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=75b5ce2a317dad5307d2490c2d2f16e3e3bc3e29>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 21297: Display public lists to existing lists when adding a new item <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33010595113b5ec279f93b1127d20b466e1ea023>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 20785: Advanced Editor does not honor MarcFieldDocURL <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca839922fd4bf3c455454f6dd9182203b1481831>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 20241: Fix display of publication year in subscription record search for MARC21 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8df47bdde678773f028f312b4cd8000a12425281>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 21167: Fix price formatting on printed fee invoice and receipt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=184c44ee31bf54ad179f9fb9fd501114902a0176>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 21078: overdrive.js Catch error if window.opener is not accessible <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6975a6836a21f42675a9394602246891c19d9522>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 16739: Show note instead of 500 error for 'Generate EDIFACT' when no EDI account... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=121b8105bcb00909b1e8081442148c1939c101a6>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Update default values in advanced editor when changing frameworks. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2074421ba3a32979d797479cf124ae6bfb333d36>
19:52 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 21362: Advanced editor: Fix tab navigation in fixed fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=024643f51c4e0ca1803dd5013bb857e98cd924e5>
19:52 caroline         well, now I know kidclamp is still working! :D
19:53 cait1            looks like it :)
19:53 kidclamp         wrapping up anyways :-) I have a bad habit of push and run
19:54 caroline         kidclamp what do you think of the sentence "If set to 'do', the holds slip print pop-up will appear automatically upon checking in a reserved item"
19:54 caroline         does it make sense?
19:54 kidclamp         As much as we can while talking about this :-)
19:54 cait1            are we sure nick is a native speaker btw? the moustache....
19:55 caroline         I'm not sure about "holds slip print pop-up" vs "holds print slip pop-up"
19:55 kidclamp         I like the former
19:55 caroline         I trust your gut :)
19:57 kidclamp         he's gotten me far!
19:57 * kidclamp       pats his belly
19:59 cait1            kidclamp: i will add the roles page now
20:00 kidclamp         cait++
20:00 kidclamp         I will run away now :-) Have THE good weekend all
20:00 caroline         bye!
20:04 cait1            needs some clean-up still https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_19.05
20:06 cait1            have a nice weekend :)
20:06 cait1            caroline: how long unti yours starts?
20:06 caroline         bye!
20:06 caroline         more or less 2 hours
20:06 * cait1          is in weekend already... 10 pm here
20:06 cait1            wow
20:07 caroline         I'm supposed to work until 6pm, but I might leave a bit early since I'm going to a show tonight
20:07 cait1            oh, what are you seeing?
20:08 cait1            i have to knit back on my current project... procrastinating
20:08 caroline         My sister in law writes monologues with a group of actors so the whole family is going to the show to support her
20:08 cait1            ah cool :)
20:08 cait1            break a leg?
20:09 caroline         I'll send her positive vibes on your behalf :)
20:09 cait1            that's what i was thinking :)
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22:01 caroline         good weekend #koha!