Time Nick Message 00:00 mtompset However, I do like the idea of some sort of cronjob that could possibly check synchronously the validity of mobile numbers, and block accordingly. 00:04 wizzyrea yeah, I was wondering if we even *can* know 00:04 alexbuckley yeah 00:04 wizzyrea where does the failure notice end up? 00:04 wizzyrea email? 00:05 wizzyrea some web interface with an API? 00:05 wizzyrea who knows lol 00:06 mtompset wizzyrea, That's the problem... I'm not sure there is a way to know. 00:55 mtompset Actually, this is why perhaps a "verify" button might be handy. 00:55 wizzyrea it looks like they mark as failed as the database - I'm not sure how it knows but they do fail there. 00:56 mtompset you shouldn't be able to add a number without an intentional verify. 00:56 wizzyrea yeah I like those lil systems that send a text with a number to verify the phone 00:56 mtompset so, sure save the mobile number, but mark it as "unverified". 00:56 wizzyrea i *feel* secure. it's probably not really but MY FEELINGS MATTER DAMMIT 00:58 mtompset Give the user a way to enter a code to verify the number, and then sending to unverified numbers won't happen. 00:58 wizzyrea (until they change SIM cards because $reasons) 00:58 wizzyrea (phone numbers are often recycled) 00:59 mtompset OH! They use them like toilet paper there too? 00:59 wizzyrea yeah :) 00:59 mtompset It was so frustrating having my Filipino friends changing their numbers so frequently. 01:00 mtompset I've started seeing the move towards that here in Canada now, but a lot slower. 02:06 mtompset Have a great day, #koha wizzyrea alexbuckley Joubu 06:11 calire mornin' #koha 06:30 reiveune hello 06:49 alex_a bonjour 06:51 matts hi! 07:40 fridolin hi there 07:40 wahanui salut, fridolin 07:40 fridolin salut à toi ;) 07:41 calire hi fridolin 07:41 calire hey matts 07:41 calire and alex_a o/ 07:41 * calire goes back to sleep 07:42 fridolin calire: i'd like tooooo 07:43 calire fridolin https://i.pinimg.com/236x/e3/3b/48/e33b4884593de76dbf3cc1b7c6017e51--los-simpsons-homer-simpson.jpg 07:43 fridolin yep something like than 07:43 fridolin :-D 07:43 calire I am playing with jquery to keep myself awake XD 07:44 josef_moravec morning #Koha 07:45 calire hi josef_moravec 07:45 josef_moravec hi calire 07:50 marcelr hi #koha 07:50 josef_moravec hi marcelr 07:50 marcelr o/ 08:14 paxed is there a list of number of attendees in each kohacon? 09:18 * andreashm waves 09:28 calire hi andreashm 09:28 andreashm hey calire 09:28 andreashm back at work? 09:29 calire yeah D: 09:29 calire physically at least. Maybe not mentally 09:44 andreashm calire: haha, I know the feeling 09:46 * andreashm is trying to understand why a hold isn't filled when the book is checked-in. 09:47 andreashm there is a hold, it should be filled. nothing happens. I delete the hold, add it again. same thing happens. very weird, never seen that before. 09:48 andreashm oh, and I can't recreate on our test servers. fun. 09:48 * andreashm wants to go back to bed. 09:48 * andreashm goes out for lunch instead 09:51 calire :( 11:23 Guest752 Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #62: SUCCESS in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/62/ 11:28 ashimema woopie 11:31 Guest752 Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #62: SUCCESS in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/62/ 11:34 magnuse oleonard: no, it doesnæt look like "no holds allowed" is enough to keep a book off the "holds to pull" 11:35 oleonard Weird. 11:35 oleonard And hi. 11:35 calire hi oleonard 11:35 wahanui hi oleopard 11:44 Guest752 Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #63: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/63/ 11:45 Guest752 Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #63: UNSTABLE in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/63/ 11:57 Guest752 Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #63: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/63/ 12:03 ashimema odd 12:15 marcelr git grep basketnoes ? 12:21 cait noes?:) 12:21 marcelr right 12:21 cait bug 20896 12:21 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20896 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Move serial enumeration to the right of callnumber on staff detail page 12:24 Guest752 Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #64: UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/64/ 12:24 cait @later tell mtompset thx! 12:24 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 12:25 Guest752 Yippee, build fixed! 12:25 Guest752 Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #64: FIXED in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/64/ 12:25 ashimema ok.. that was another properly random one :( 12:25 ashimema all I did we re-run the build and it worked 12:25 ashimema hmm 12:39 marcelr bug 21337 and bug 21336 ready to go ! 12:39 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21337 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Add Koha::Patrons->delete (trivial wrapper) 12:39 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21336 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , GDPR: Process unsubscribe requests automatically 12:40 magnuse cait around? 12:50 magnuse oleonard: the trouble is when you have one reference copy and one ordinary copy on the same record, and koha sees the reference one as "available for loan" 12:53 magnuse ah, bug 13640 12:53 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13640 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Holds To Pull List includes items unreserveable items 12:53 magnuse we are not alone 13:01 oleonard 👽 13:14 magnuse :-) 13:19 oleonard Hi caroline_ 13:19 caroline_ Hi oleonard! 13:19 wahanui hi oleopard 13:21 tcohen hi 13:21 wahanui bonjour, tcohen 13:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20656: (RM follow-up) Add missing filter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=87dc160555ed106fb09e15d5a0eaf1e7313ff77d> 13:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20819: (RM follow-up) Add missing filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=401f19d56fdfa7133ed60661bb2492ddcbcedc30> 13:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20819: DBRev 18.06.00.031 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3dda7d6c7fa683f910aeacdf89658af8ee9755cd> 13:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21374: Fix self registration verification <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b77697c31e9a23c85dd430d764d92143f850d76> 13:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20656: (follow-up) Don't display title for F or FU fines (it is in description) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cdfc1c08c96a06d5fe709777374aded10ff4a7ed> 13:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20819: Db rev for new table patron_consent and sysprefs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=177deef3b0ff5ece0f1ad074b9b9adc078048245> 13:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20819: Add consent to self-registration process <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6eb46151626aba7da3490aac726f17d6a19d866> 13:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20819: Add check in get_template_and_user to enforce GDPR <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f2a0acc2d614e630deabba872a136de6e6aa349> 13:46 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20819: Add Koha object classes for patron consents <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=429ab60a0916ddda87f18f177361011d7cc2705a> 13:46 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20819: Add your consents tab to opac-user <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dac230963dd69fe7a07b13ab69512728fce9f9fd> 13:46 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20656: Better formatting for print summary <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4df6a3ef796c6e8dd002c0cc1cd4d4b2d501be34> 13:46 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20656: Don't print lines that have no balance on print summary <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0fd329724b58c34d850a5b5f162ad0c0f2428eb4> 14:15 Guest752 Project Koha_Master_D9 build #559: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/559/ 14:15 ashimema how often is schema.koha-community.org updated? 14:17 Guest752 Project Koha_Master_U18 build #47: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/47/ 14:23 Guest752 Project Koha_Master_D8 build #53: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/53/ 14:34 cait ashimema: i am not sure, but rangi can update it i think 14:34 ashimema I kinda assumed it was scripted 14:35 ashimema appears not.. looks like the master branch wasn't updated for a long time 14:36 barton Joubu: you're right about sharing the imported file. 14:37 Guest752 Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #65: SUCCESS in 19 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/65/ 14:38 cait maybe it's broken 14:41 Guest752 Yippee, build fixed! 14:41 Guest752 Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #65: FIXED in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/65/ 15:01 reiveune bye 15:05 Guest752 Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #64: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/64/ 15:10 Guest752 Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #87: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/87/ 15:46 Joubu Hi #koha 15:47 Joubu kidclamp: on 20656 you html escaped a $Price output, it should not be needed (FYI) 16:34 kidclamp thanks Joubu 16:34 kidclamp are you planning to add the filter check to the qa tools? 16:39 Joubu kidclamp: I would like to avoid to duplicate the code 16:40 Joubu maybe the QA script could run the test file from the Koha xt dir (?) 16:40 kidclamp that would be good 16:41 kidclamp just somethign to catch it earlier - i don't want to fail patches for it, but I also want devs to know to do it 16:41 kidclamp (and I don't want to do it - lazy) 16:46 Joubu I will have a look 16:54 caroline_ oleonard: can anything go into a modal? 16:55 oleonard caroline_: It gets complicated if you want to do multi-page operations in a modal. What did you have in mind? 16:56 caroline_ a client asked to be able to change item information from the orderreceive.pl page withtout have to leave the page 16:57 caroline_ especially for the barcode as they add it upon receiving the item 16:58 caroline_ I was thinking maybe a "quick edit" option for the elements that are in the table, like click on the value to modify 16:58 Joubu outch, that does not sound trivial :) 16:58 caroline_ no? I wouldn't know. You're all magicians as far as I know :) 16:58 oleonard No, not trivial to do inline editing of individual fields. 16:58 oleonard But off the top of my head that seems fairly doable in a modal. I don't want to make any promises though. 16:58 caroline_ and if we open a modal with the item form inside? 17:01 oleonard You can use a modal in such a way that it loads just a certain element on a page, so the modal could load just the edit from from the additem page 17:02 Joubu IIRC the item form does not edit the item, just add it 17:02 Joubu and actually it does not insert it in the DB 17:02 Joubu (maybe I am wrong) 17:03 oleonard I think we're talking about items which have already been created, aren't we caroline_ ? 17:03 caroline_ yes, they are created during the order, but they want to modify on receiving 17:04 Joubu yes, so the existing form cannot be reused 17:04 caroline_ but when we click on "edit" it's the same form no? 17:05 oleonard Joubu: But we may be able to use additem.pl since the item already exists 17:05 caroline_ the link under the "Edit" link is this cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/additem.pl?op=edititem&biblionumber=10&itemnumber=8&popup=1#edititem and it goes directly to modify the item 17:06 oleonard ...and that link only behaves that way if AcqCreateItem == 'ordering' 17:06 Joubu additem.pl should not be called from an ajax request 17:07 caroline_ since their version, at least the link was changed to open in a new tab, so it's better imo 17:21 tcohen hola 17:21 caroline_ hi tcohen! 17:21 tcohen hola caroline_! 17:29 caroline_ Oh, I just reread their message and they want that on parcel.pl not orderreceive.pl 17:40 cait hi oleonard :) 17:40 oleonard Hi cait 17:40 oleonard Surviving your jet lag I hope? 17:41 cait kind of - i think you said hi yesterday and i just replied to that... 17:41 cait trying to stay awake to a normal sleep time, but it's so hard 17:41 * cait waves at Joubu and caroline_ 17:41 caroline_ Hi cait! 17:41 oleonard I accept an unlimited number of greetings at all times of day 17:44 cait :) 17:44 cait missing you all 17:44 caroline_ Joubu and oleonard, do you think something like this would be possible? (I just pasted this together with gimp) https://snag.gy/IEn3wr.jpg 17:50 cait hm ... there is no prog theme in 17.11... isn't there? 17:50 cait looking at mailing list emails 17:51 caroline_ I have prog in my master 17:51 ashimema You'd need it in a modal to allow for multiple items I reckon caroline_ 17:51 cait ah for opac 17:51 cait sorry, was not specific 17:51 caroline_ yes for opacfallback i have prog, maybe it's inherited when you upgrade? 17:52 caroline_ ashimema: I was thinking keeping the "Receive?" checkbox and unfolding the form for modifying when the checkbox is checked 17:52 caroline_ of course this is all theoretical as I am not a dev 17:54 ashimema Sounds like a nice little project caroline_ , have fun 17:54 caroline_ hehe, I hope my colleagues are as positive as you ;) 17:56 cait :) 17:56 cait caroline_: just wondering if it really does anything still - i think we removed the prog files behind 17:57 caroline_ ah, I don't know if it does anything, but the option is there 18:56 oleonard Bye #koha 19:10 * andreashm waves 19:12 caroline_ hi andreashm! 19:13 andreashm hi caroline_! 19:13 cait hi andreashm 19:13 andreashm hey cait! 19:14 * andreashm is struggling a bit with staying awke. falling asleep every time Ive put the kids to bed since coming home doesn't help. =) 19:14 andreashm awake 19:14 cait i know what you mean... 19:15 andreashm Interestingly, one of my colleagues hasn't suffered from jet-lag at all since coming back. While me and my other coworker are like zombies. 19:15 cait unfair :) 19:18 * kidclamp suggests waking up very early and going for a run :-) not the most fun, but helpful 19:19 bag we here just don’t sleep :P 19:20 andreashm that's one way of doing it. 19:32 magnuse bag: HI 19:32 bag magnuse: HI 19:32 magnuse \o/ 19:33 * magnuse pokes bug 13498 with a stick 19:33 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13498 minor, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 'email' templates used for printing slips 19:38 caroline_ any librarians around? I'm looking for the subfield order for MARC records (normally it is not necessarily alphabetical, like 245anphb) 19:50 caroline_ According to http://www.loc.gov/marc/96principl.html, "the order of subfields is specified by content standards, e.g., cataloging rules." But I've been looking in RDA and I can't find definite order prescriptions 19:51 andreashm magnuse: oh, that one. 19:52 andreashm caroline_: what fields are you thinking of? 19:54 caroline_ all of them (I know specifically that subject subdivisions are not vxyz), ideally I'd like a list of all the fields and their prescribed subfield order 19:56 andreashm caroline_: ouch. that I don't know. 19:57 caroline_ I think only hardcore catalogers know :/ I was hoping there was some sort of documentation regular catalogers referred to when in doubt 19:58 caroline_ in Sweden, do you use MARC21 or UNIMARC or another one? 19:58 kidclamp have a nice night all! 19:58 andreashm https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ ? 19:58 andreashm caroline_: we use MARC21 19:59 andreashm sort of anyway 19:59 caroline_ that's where I usually look (or the canadian version www.marc21.ca) but they say its prescribed in cataloguing rules, not MARC *sigh* 20:00 andreashm (small changes) 20:02 andreashm caroline_: to bad 20:02 caroline_ I'll ask around. I know I have hardcore catalogers among my clients ;) 20:03 caroline_ like really hardcore, like cataloguing is their life ;) 20:06 andreashm haha 20:40 caroline_ good evening everyone! 21:20 wizzyrea hi 21:22 cait hi wizzyrea :) 21:22 cait i had a phone call today - they were looking for the conference website for 2018 21:22 cait coudl we link to it directly from the website? 21:23 cait it now goes to the wiki page with the proposals and people don't spot the conference website link there 21:24 wizzyrea sure, that's fine 21:24 cait https://kohacon2018.bywatersolutions.com/ 21:26 cait i think i can't stay awake longer 21:27 cait goo dnight all :)