Time  Nick        Message
00:04 wizzyrea    is the administrator address one that you can actually get mail for?
00:04 wizzyrea    Did you set something different for each branch?
00:05 wizzyrea    (email address)
02:33 tcohen      can we add a turing test challenge?
02:33 * wizzyrea  blinks
02:33 wizzyrea    it's true, I'm a cylon.
02:35 * tcohen    knew it!
02:35 tcohen      seriously, vero veronica and fabi read like bots
02:41 rangi       was all the same person tcohen
02:41 rangi       from el salvador, just english as a second language
02:42 rangi       i suspect had translated their questions and cut and paste them
02:42 tcohen      so my bouncer is showing me repeated sentences with no link
02:42 tcohen      yes, that's probably what they did
02:43 rangi       yeah they all come from the same IP
02:44 rangi       tcohen: did you see https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon18/Social ?
02:45 tcohen      haven't had the chance to dig!
02:46 tcohen      but certainly bookmarked it!
02:46 rangi       i thought you might like to come to the brazilian steak house on the 14th too :)
02:51 tcohen      good plan!
02:56 tcohen      I'll think about all this on the weekend
02:57 tcohen      I'm brain-dead this days
02:57 rangi       excellent :)
05:56 alexbuckley Just wondering: Is anyone else having issues attaching patches to bug reports using git bz?
05:58 alexbuckley oh nevermind I've fixed it
06:14 fridolin    hi there
06:14 wahanui     privet, fridolin
06:18 cait        alexbuckley: fix the date
06:18 cait        i just ran into that too :)
06:19 alexbuckley hi cait. yeah that fixed it for me  :)
06:20 alexbuckley thanks!
06:29 alex_a      bonjour
06:57 magnuse     \o/
07:15 calire      hey magnuse
07:15 magnuse     kia ora calire & cait
07:17 cait        morning #koha, magnuse, calire :)
09:02 AndrewIsh   Hey all! I'm looking at an ILL problem a customer is having on 17.11. I'm trying to go to the "Libraries and groups" admin page, but am seeing "DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Table 'koha.branchcategories' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/Koha/Objects.pm line 129"
09:03 AndrewIsh   I've not seen this before, has anyone else got any clue as to what might be the problem?
09:03 AndrewIsh   (This isn't the problem they're seeing, it's something I encountered while trying to diagnose it)
09:05 AndrewIsh   Oh, I wonder if it's because I have a database that originated post-17.11 and I'm guessing the branchcategories table has been removed. Doh, of course, ignore me! :)
10:08 tuxayo      Hi :)
10:08 tuxayo      Is it normal that and ISBn can end up stored with dashes in the MARCXML ?
10:08 tuxayo      For example, after a marc import. To know if this is valid so other parts of Koha and external systems should expect dashes in the data. Or if it's an issue having dashes in ISBNs
10:09 tuxayo      *that an ISBN can end up
11:07 saa         on a fresh koha installation when i try to access intranet i am getting error DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::catch {...} (): DBI Connection failed: Access denied for user 'koha_library'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 1492. at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Database.pm line 103
11:07 saa         what could be the reason
11:32 oleonard    Hye
11:32 oleonard    Hey
11:33 oleonard    Good start.
11:39 saa         i am stuck at data migration here is the error while migrating from 16.11.04 to 18.05.02 "koha-upgrade-schema library Upgrading database schema for library DBD::mysql::db do failed: Table 'koha_library.systempreferences' doesn't exist [for Statement "             SELECT * FROM systempreferences WHERE 1 = 0 "] at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Database.pm line 110."
11:45 calire      hi oleonard
11:55 eythian     hi all
12:25 cait        oleonard: do you have a minute to look at some template logic?
12:25 cait        bug 21270
12:25 huginn`     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21270 minor, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Signed Off , Not finding what you're looking for displaying uselessly
12:25 cait        i am nto agreeing with Blou
12:25 cait        i think display ill when ill, suggestin when suggestion... an dnothing when neither
12:25 cait        as the "you didn't find what you were looking for hint"
12:33 cait        but maybe i am misunderstanding, just discussing a bit with kidclamp too
13:09 caroline_   Hello everyone!
13:10 oleonard    Hi caroline_
13:17 calire      hi caroline_
13:23 tcohen      morning
13:23 calire      hi tcohen
13:32 tuxayo      Hi :)
13:32 tuxayo      Does anyone know if it's normal that an ISBN can end up stored with dashes or not in the MARCXML ?
13:32 tuxayo      For example, after a marc import. To know if this is valid so other parts of Koha and external systems should expect dashes in the data. Or if it's an issue having dashes in ISBNs
13:32 wahanui     i already had it that way, tuxayo.
13:33 eythian     wahanui: you're back
13:33 wahanui     eythian: what?
13:33 eythian     wahanui: your back
13:33 wahanui     eythian: i'm not following you...
13:33 tuxayo      The funny thing is that you might be right wahanui
13:34 oleonard    eythian you're such a prankster. Take that off wahanui's back.
13:34 eythian     wahanui: you're back is <reply>did someone put the kick-me sign there again?
13:34 wahanui     eythian: i don't know
13:34 eythian     wahanui: you're back is <reply>did someone put the kick-me sign there again#
13:34 wahanui     OK, eythian.
13:34 eythian     wahanui: you're back =~ s/#/?/
13:34 wahanui     OK, eythian
13:34 eythian     wahanui: literal facepalm
13:34 wahanui     eythian: excuse me?
13:34 caroline_   tuxayo: isn't data store "as is" in marc xml?
13:35 eythian     I think wahanui has caught amnesia or something :(
13:35 eythian     wahanui: mailing lists
13:35 wahanui     eythian: what?
13:35 eythian     wahanui: mailing list
13:35 wahanui     eythian: huh?
13:35 eythian     yep
13:35 eythian     so sad
13:35 tuxayo      QA team?
13:35 tuxayo      :(
13:36 tuxayo      caroline_: «isn't data store "as is" in marc xml?»
13:36 tuxayo      I have no idea. So mixed data is to be expected?
13:36 tcohen      tuxayo: there's no sanitization on MARC fields
13:36 eythian     you've seem MARC. Expect the unexpected.
13:36 eythian     *seen
13:37 caroline_   tuxayo: I think so
13:37 caroline_   I'm pretty sure Koha has ways around dashes (to compare isbns for example)
13:37 eythian     you also need to be able to handle ISBNs where someone has done "nine five one three eight dash six ..."
13:38 * cait      waves
13:38 caroline_   ok maybe not that far eythian XD
13:38 caroline_   hi cait!
13:38 eythian     caroline_: if you can imagine it, a library somewhere has done it.
13:39 * eythian   spent a few years migrating library data. It is made of craziness.
13:39 eythian     @quote 123
13:39 huginn`     eythian: downloading the Perl source
13:39 eythian     @quote get 123
13:39 huginn`     eythian: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
13:39 caroline_   lol!
13:40 caroline_   Did anyone ever find april fool's prank in marc data?
13:40 eythian     Haven't noticed one.
13:40 caroline_   An ex-colleague wanted to catalog a spatula and see how much time it took for someone to notice
13:41 caroline_   I don't think he got around to doing it though
13:41 eythian     I did find one record that had the subject terms in Dutch, despite the rest of the record being English. That was a bit confusing.
13:41 eythian     I think you'd only notice when someone tried to reserve it.
13:49 tcohen      fridolin: I see a 17.11.09 package, but no release notes?
13:51 fridolin    tcohen: oh packaging jsute happend, I was waiting for a go from RM
14:12 kidclamp    yeah tcohe, I broked the tarballs from martin. he is ognna reup, my b ad
14:12 kidclamp    tcohen^
14:12 eythian     with typing like that, I'm not surprised!
14:12 tcohen      hehe
14:12 * kidclamp  caffeinates as quickly as possible
14:13 * tcohen    puts the koha-common package on hold on all servers ;-)
14:25 kidclamp    released and published, all set fridolin
14:26 fridolin    coool
14:27 oleonard    Is there a known issue with checkouts loading? I'm getting a JavaScript error.
14:28 * ashimema  briefly says hello from a campsite in holland
14:29 * ashimema  disappears again..
14:29 ashimema    Thanks for putting together the release chaps
14:30 oleonard    Oh I see, Bug 21257
14:30 huginn`     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21257 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Passed QA , Patrons checkout table throws JS error when location/collection not defined
14:38 oleonard    Hm, I still get an error even with the patch applied.
14:39 cait        oleonard: did you apply both?
14:39 cait        it only worked for me with both patches, i noted below
14:40 oleonard    I did apply both
14:40 kidclamp    did you restart_all?
14:41 oleonard    I did restart_all
14:41 oleonard    Wait, it's not happening with all patrons...
14:42 cait        hm mabe another field we were missing?
14:44 cait        kidclamp++ ashimema++ fridolin++
14:52 oleonard    It would definitely be cool if AJAX datatables didn't completely break with bad JSON.
15:18 jenkins     Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #84: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/84/
15:44 tuxayo      Thanks caroline_ tcohen eythian
15:44 tuxayo      I hadn't seen much MARC to expect the unexpected ^^"
15:44 * tuxayo    sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/eCIVVrXBjdQYEgNlwVLzJEiS >
16:01 oleonard    @seen Joubu
16:01 huginn`     oleonard: Joubu was last seen in #koha 4 days, 17 hours, 29 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <Joubu> @later tell tcohen should fix selenium test
16:01 oleonard    Joubu on vacation?
16:03 caroline_   oleonard: dont know, but he did mention he was going to see his brother in canada before kohacon
16:06 caroline_   which db table is used when TrackClicks sys pref is on?
16:07 caroline_   I see there is a linktracker table, but I click on all sorts of links (internal/external) and nothing is added
16:09 oleonard    Does it only track links in MARC records?
16:09 caroline_   ah! only 856$u? I'll try
16:11 caroline_   oleonard: that's it! Thanks! :)
16:41 tcohen      maybe the is_url attribute on the marc frameworks is related?
17:31 Joubu       hi #koha
17:39 caroline_   Hi Joubu!
17:39 caroline_   We thought you were on vacation
17:42 Joubu       I am! But rainy today :-/
17:43 Joubu       kidclamp I have attached a new followup on 13618
17:47 Joubu       @later tell kidclamp I have attached a new followup on 13618
17:47 huginn`     Joubu: The operation succeeded.
17:54 * cait      waves
17:54 cait        rainy here today too, enjoying that so much
17:57 caroline_   In montreal right now: 31C (41C with heat index) I think whatever was in europe has crossed the atlantic
17:57 cait        please, you can keep it ;)
17:59 Joubu       @wunter Vancouver, Canada
17:59 huginn`     Joubu: I've exhausted my database of quotes
18:00 Joubu       @wunder Vancouver, Canada
18:00 huginn`     Joubu: Vancouver, British Columbia :: Rain :: 61F/16C | Wednesday: Showers early, then partly cloudy for the afternoon. High 69F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 40%. Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy this evening followed by increasing clouds with showers developing after midnight. Low 54F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 40%.
19:07 tuxayo      Hi, does anyone know if there is a way to have a grace period between the end of the due date and the beginning of a suspension.
19:07 tuxayo      To let some time for someone to borrow an item even if they are late on other ones. But only for a little time.
19:08 caroline_   tuxayo: maybe use the suspension in overdue notice/status trigger
19:08 caroline_   ?
19:12 Joubu       @later tell fridolin do you plan to backport 21226? It would be good to make Jenkins happy
19:12 huginn`     Joubu: The operation succeeded.
19:17 tuxayo      caroline_: Thanks I hope that will do :) . I'm relaying a question that I'm seeing in the internal email at BibLibre without understanding all the functionnal details (I'm on the technical side).
19:17 tuxayo      And now I don't understand how they suspend without using "overdue notice/status trigger"
19:18 caroline_   I think they can use the circulation rules too
19:18 caroline_   do you want to send me the actual question by pm? (I assume it's in french)
19:26 tuxayo      caroline_: Ho right there are also suspensions here.
19:26 tuxayo      Actually after rereading and understanding more. I think that this part of the discussion was okay.
19:26 tuxayo      "issuingrules.firstremind" was mentionned as a solution but I didn't understand at first read and now I get it. Thanks :)
19:27 caroline_   +1!
20:11 rangi       caroline_: i've catalogued pokemon in marc before a spatula is nothing ;)
20:12 caroline_   like actual pokemon?
20:12 rangi       yes!
20:12 rangi       https://demo.mykoha.co.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=pokemon&branch_group_limit=
20:12 caroline_   Did anyone ever find them? or catch them
20:12 caroline_   nice!!
20:13 rangi       yep, libraries could download the marc, and load it into their catalogue, then the kids using the library could comment on them if they caught one there
20:13 caroline_   You should add 780/785 for previous/next forms
20:13 rangi       :)
20:13 rangi       good idea
20:14 rangi       https://demo.mykoha.co.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=30649  i used the call number on the item so the library could update if one was caught there heh
20:15 caroline_   gosh, i caught sooo many pidgeys when i played pokemongo
20:15 caroline_   and other boring pokemon
20:19 rangi       heh
20:19 rangi       i still play sometimes
20:19 rangi       but only in airports
20:37 caroline_   cait is spontaneously cloning
20:45 cait1       yep :)
20:45 cait1       working on 2 laptops - getting really wild now
20:47 caroline_   ah, you were jealous of my 4 workspaces x 2 screens! ;)
20:47 cait1       totally!
21:59 wizzycray   hi, kidclamp are you around?
21:59 wizzycray   I was hoping for a tag for 18.05.03
22:04 caroline_   bye everyone!
22:23 wizzycray   @later tell kidclamp please may we have the tag and release commits pushed to the repository? Thanks!
22:23 huginn`     wizzycray: The operation succeeded.
22:26 rangi       wizzycray: i think ashimema is RMaint for 18.05 ?
22:27 rangi       might be worth latering him too
22:28 cait        he is on vacation - so kidclamp did the final things today
22:28 cait        i guess they forgot as it was on security repo
22:34 wizzycray   @later tell ashimema please may we have the tag and release commits pushed to the repository? Thanks!
22:34 huginn`     wizzycray: The operation succeeded.