Time Nick Message 22:29 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 22:29 tcohen @later tell LeeJ #endmeeting 21:52 caroline_ good night #koha! 21:11 Veronic Thank you 21:08 cait either no item has been checked in to fill the ohld yes or no available item has been send to fill the hold from another branch or picked form the shelf (depends on the circ rules what is possible) 21:07 cait pending usually means that the patron placed a hold, but it's not there yet 21:05 cait waiting means that the item is waiting on the shelf for pick-up by the person ho requested it 21:05 cait Veronic: hm where did you see that? 21:04 Veronic What is the difference between a pending reservation and reserved waiting in koha, thanks 20:50 josef_moravec thanks to all 20:50 cait kidclamp++ 20:50 josef_moravec cait++ 20:50 josef_moravec kidclamp++ 20:49 kidclamp whoosh 20:49 * kidclamp runs off to run 20:49 greenjimll Bye! 20:49 kidclamp thanks all! 20:49 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/development_irc_meeting_22_august_2018.2018-08-22-20.00.log.html 20:49 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/development_irc_meeting_22_august_2018.2018-08-22-20.00.txt 20:49 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/development_irc_meeting_22_august_2018.2018-08-22-20.00.html 20:49 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Aug 22 20:49:20 2018 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 20:49 kidclamp #endmeeting 20:49 kidclamp #info Next meeting: 19 September 2018, 14 UTC 20:49 bag :) 20:49 cait but i trust you to make good decisions heh 20:48 cait i won't make that one 20:48 kidclamp it is, i think most will be home by then, or we can at least record what all we did :-) 20:48 bag KohaCon is 10th~12th 20:47 thd Wait is that not 2 days after KohaCon? 20:47 greenjimll +1 20:47 thd +1 20:46 josef_moravec ok for me 20:46 kidclamp Sepetember 19th, 14UTC? 20:45 kidclamp if the devs don't talk to each other there something has gone horribly wrong 20:45 kidclamp wait until after Kohacon? 20:45 cait i'd say so 20:44 greenjimll OK, so just to be clear, the "verb and noun" requirement that was in C4 for subroutine names has been ditched as well now? 20:44 kidclamp #topic Set time of next meeting 20:44 kidclamp #agreed PERL9 will (has been) be updated to reflect Koha namespace capitlization guidelines 20:44 huginn` Yes (4): kidclamp, cait, josef_moravec, ashimema 20:44 huginn` Voted on "Should we adapt the PERL9 guideline to state us of snake_case for subroutines in the Koha namespace and the use of CamelCase for modules?" Results are 20:44 kidclamp #endvote 20:43 kidclamp last call 20:43 cait #vote Yes 20:43 ashimema #vote yes 20:43 josef_moravec #vote Yes 20:43 kidclamp heh, i knew something was wrong :-) 20:43 kidclamp #vote Yes 20:43 huginn` Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 20:43 huginn` Begin voting on: Should we adapt the PERL9 guideline to state us of snake_case for subroutines in the Koha namespace and the use of CamelCase for modules? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. 20:43 kidclamp #startvote Should we adapt the PERL9 guideline to state us of snake_case for subroutines in the Koha namespace and the use of CamelCase for modules? Yes, No, Abstain 20:42 kidclamp #endvote 20:42 kidclamp #nedvote 20:42 kidclamp #endvote 20:42 kidclamp last call 20:42 thd #vote Yes 20:41 ashimema #vote yes 20:41 thd s/shoudl/should/ 20:41 greenjimll #vote Abstain 20:41 cait #vote Yes 20:41 cait #vote yes 20:41 josef_moravec #vote Yes 20:41 kidclamp #vote Yes 20:41 kidclamp #vote Should we adapt the PERL9 guideline to state us of snake_case for subroutines in the Koha namespace and the use of CamelCase for modules? Yes, No, Abstain 20:41 cait C4 namespace [outdated] and everything above is new 20:41 cait ? 20:41 cait try refreshß 20:40 greenjimll I'm looking at https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#PERL9 which was in the agenda 20:40 cait kidclamp: can always be undone, it's a wiki :) 20:40 cait greenjimll: did you see the slightyl changed wiki page? 20:40 kidclamp the amendment to the rule (that already happened) 20:40 greenjimll Er, what is it we're voting on... I'm still a bit unclear? 20:40 kidclamp or can we just accept it :-) 20:39 cait whitespace 20:39 kidclamp ready to vote? 20:39 greenjimll Don't joke... that's a frightening idea. 20:39 cait maybe we should use something more esoteric 20:39 cait hah 20:39 kidclamp when we rewrite Koha in C# we will remove all inconsistencies :-) 20:39 greenjimll Ah, I misunderstood. I thought you wanted to do what was in Perl 9 everywhere outside C4 as well. 20:38 cait please feel free to change it up 20:38 cait well... mostly 20:38 kidclamp that is in the C4 deprecated section 20:38 cait yeah that's how things are in C4 20:38 greenjimll eg: AddBiblio 20:38 kidclamp yes, that is what i understand 20:38 greenjimll Perl 9 seems to be talking about methods though in camel case. 20:37 cait i might be mistaken 20:37 cait so it's PatronAttributes.pm 20:37 cait for th ename of the package is what i understood 20:37 greenjimll So when you say "snake case for subs and camel case for module names" do you mean camel case for module public methods and snake for internal functions? 20:36 cait well... a more full time dev 20:36 cait refining i'd leave up to a dev :) 20:36 cait please refresh wiki 20:34 thd cait: Yes, I know because there is subsidiarity in the namespace for the module. 20:34 kidclamp Do you have wording proposal, or just vote on the idea and get it worded after? 20:34 cait we could divide the rule up, sec 20:34 ashimema What eythian said is what I've seen too 20:34 ashimema Yup 20:34 cait thd: i don't think it works that way? 20:33 cait i was about to say something about tumbleweed :) 20:33 thd What happens when a subroutine is abstracted to become a module? 20:33 ashimema Well spottef 20:32 cait which seems to make sense with how we do things now 20:32 cait eythian suggested that perl leans towards snake case for subs and camel case for module names 20:32 greenjimll Heh, I always did snake case myself until at work one of my colleagues put camel case into the coding guidelines. It'll be fun to say, "no, Koha requires it". ;-) 20:32 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#PERL9:_Subroutine_naming_conventions Coding guideline for soubroutine naming conventions 20:31 kidclamp +1 20:31 cait amend it 20:31 cait so we should at least amen dit 20:31 cait but we have been pushing people to do snake case in the new Koha namespace 20:31 cait Perl 9 is still targetted at C4 20:31 cait alex_a brought it up today 20:31 cait that was me again 20:30 kidclamp #topic Review of coding guidelines 20:30 thd kidclamp: I shall interpret "that thing" to be whatever I please unanimously :) 20:30 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 20:30 cait @later tell matts got you a new job :) https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_18.11 20:30 kidclamp #agreed We want the current api to be private and add a public namespace for needed info endpoints 20:30 ashimema I thought tcohen was here.. 20:30 cait kidclamp: there is #agreed :) 20:29 kidclamp #action Tomas will do that thing 20:29 kidclamp #info It's unanimous - do that thing 20:29 thd cait: We need to the way Koha handles (visibility|word readability). 20:29 kidclamp so close 20:29 bag #vote yes 20:29 huginn` Yes (6): greenjimll, cait, josef_moravec, ashimema, kidclamp, thd 20:29 huginn` Voted on "Should we adapt current API as 'private' and build new '/public' namespace for simple information endpoints (as outlined in agenda)?" Results are 20:29 kidclamp #endvote 20:28 kidclamp last call... 20:28 ashimema #vote yes 20:28 josef_moravec #vote Yes 20:28 cait #vote Yes 20:28 cait thd: the initial idea was to see data without where it made sense and then more when authenticated, but it's difficult with the way koha handles things like visibliity 20:28 greenjimll #vote Yes 20:28 thd #vote Yes 20:27 kidclamp #vote Yes 20:27 huginn` Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 20:27 huginn` Begin voting on: Should we adapt current API as 'private' and build new '/public' namespace for simple information endpoints (as outlined in agenda)? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. 20:27 kidclamp #startvote Should we adapt current API as 'private' and build new '/public' namespace for simple information endpoints (as outlined in agenda)? Yes, No, Abstain 20:27 thd Was anyone favouring everything in the API running without authentication? 20:27 ashimema Semantic versioning in the API I believe.. don't think k we'veade any breaking changes yet 20:26 cait phrasing as a question... i hated that 20:26 kidclamp ok, lemme phrase something 20:26 cait greenjimll: i think we already have a version number, currently still 1 as things are mostly unfinished 20:25 greenjimll ok 20:25 kidclamp I think that can be done as detail work, for now is broad concept vote? 20:25 greenjimll As long as is well documented I don't have an issue. Will there be an API version number included too? 20:25 ashimema Yeah, we've discussed it.. it's a perfectly sane approach and I'm game for it 20:24 kidclamp any questions/objections? 20:24 cait but i was always the one worried about exposing this data - so of course i like it :) 20:24 cait i like it 20:24 cait well not a pull down... list of library names or so 20:23 cait like we have a libraries end point with all information and another for just getting a pull down of libraries that can be open, right? 20:23 kidclamp exactly cait 20:23 kidclamp I think the gist is - rather than rework the current API stuffs, just make it all private (authenticated) and add new routes for public info for where it is neee 20:23 cait i think the idea is different routes 20:22 kidclamp ashimema: have you talked with tomas on this? 20:22 cait ... and then probably have someone explain 20:22 cait i'll have to read that quickly 20:21 kidclamp #info [VOTE] REST API: public vs. private API. how do we handle 20:21 cait tcohen? 20:21 kidclamp #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 20:21 cait not from me right now 20:20 kidclamp anything else? 20:20 cait i'll try :) 20:20 cait i better give up on writing too 20:20 cait hm second sign-off... good for qa with a code review 20:19 kidclamp just to let people know and see if anyone jumps on other things 20:19 ashimema Agreed 20:19 cait hm i could, but not sure what exactly? 20:19 cait i thnk with a second qa again, we should be good with a code review 20:19 kidclamp would you send soemthing to the lists cait?> 20:18 cait #info other topics: RDF, authentication 20:18 ashimema Yup.. what she said 20:18 josef_moravec cait: I see ;) 20:17 cait so yes... an dno 20:17 cait josef_moravec: looking for someone to look at his patches :) 20:17 bag I won’t put a passed QA on it - unless I volunteer to be on the team again - so I like the idea of just another sign-off 20:17 cait #action bag to volunteer as QA topic expert for LDAP and SIP 20:17 josef_moravec david cook for rdf? 20:17 cait bag++ 20:17 cait cool 20:17 ashimema Awesome bag 20:17 cait ... and if possible someone for linked data/rdf 20:16 ashimema Brill 20:16 cait we are also lookign for an ldap person 20:16 bag I’d be willing to do SIP and LDAP things (I still have that set up from my RM days) 20:16 cait sounds good 20:16 * ashimema will try to talk colin_c back into sip and edit topic expert roles 20:16 kidclamp +1 20:16 cait um 18.11 20:16 cait i'd add them to the roles page for 18.05 as we find them, ok? 20:15 cait matts++ 20:15 cait #info QA team is looking for QA topic experts - sign off counting for qa, additional code review from qa team as needed, volunteers welcome - please also feel free to suggest people 20:15 kidclamp [off] I give up on typing today 20:15 kidclamp matss++ 20:15 ashimema Hehe, well volunteered matts 20:14 cait matts volunteered (kind of) for CAS and Shibboleth 20:14 cait an additonal code review might be done, but otherwise a sign-off would count as qa 20:14 josef_moravec +1 20:14 kidclamp +1 20:14 cait people the qa team can call in for certain topics 20:14 ashimema +1 20:13 cait QA topic experts 20:13 huginn` bag: The operation succeeded. Quote #332 added. 20:13 bag @quote add Hackfest is a state of mind (and freedom to ignore everything that isn't a bug) 20:13 cait I had added an idea on my proposal, that i'd like to try out 20:13 kidclamp josef_moravec++ welcome back :-) 20:13 cait #info queue is in reasonable shape, can always be better, but bugs are being taken care of fast, enh a little slower 20:13 kidclamp I bet bag has super powers 20:13 huginn` kidclamp: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 20:13 kidclamp @quote add Hackfest is a state of mind (and freedom to ignore everything that isn't a bug) 20:12 cait sorry, missed the topic change 20:12 cait ah yes 20:12 huginn` cait: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 20:12 cait @quote add Hackfest is a state of mind (and freedom to ignore everythign that isn't a bug) 20:12 kidclamp QA updates cait? 20:12 kidclamp Hackfest is a state of mind (and freedom to ignore everythign that isn't a bug) 20:12 bag both for sure 20:12 cait both 20:11 * ashimema will be attempting to join hackfest virtually 😉 20:11 greenjimll Is HACKFEST a physical or virtual thing? 20:11 kidclamp let me knwo too ;-) 20:11 kidclamp #info email kidclamp if you have things you want done or ideas 20:11 cait started a list already :) 20:11 bag just bring them cait 20:11 kidclamp #info HACKFEST!!! kidclamp is running the show - please help him out and bring ideas for what to do 20:11 cait do you want them before or just bringing them? 20:11 kidclamp #topic Updates from the QA team 20:10 bag I do have an announcement - sorry to be late with it… HACKFEST!!! kidclamp is running the show - please help him out and bring ideas for what to do 20:10 kidclamp #info releases delayed for coordinated release, holidays 20:10 ashimema That's it from me too really.. fridolin is out this week.. 20:09 ashimema Lining up annual leave, always fun 😉 20:09 ashimema It's been a bumpy month with holiday, but we've been steadily pushing. I've delayed today's release by a week so we can do the three releases close to each other 20:09 cait only Joubu can do the magic it seems :) 20:09 cait RMaints? 20:09 cait Rmaints? 20:09 kidclamp ashimema: 20:09 kidclamp #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 20:08 kidclamp That's all from me really, except to keep poking master for any bugs 20:07 kidclamp Trying to get the queue caught up, still some bug things I would like to see more of (Mana, Stock rotation) bug me if you have anything you want :-) 20:07 cait kidclamp++ too :) 20:07 kidclamp Hey, that's me :-D 20:07 kidclamp #topic Update from the Release manager (18.11) 20:07 bag oleonard++ 20:06 bag Joubu++ 20:06 bag nada 20:06 kidclamp anyone else? Bag? 20:05 kidclamp Owne and Joubu both took off after these were pushed, so volunteer them for any fixes :-) 20:05 ashimema Well done all involved in those 20:05 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 20:05 kidclamp please test master, we expect to shake out somedisplay issues with these and want to clear them before release 20:04 cait oleonard++ Joubu++ 20:04 kidclamp Joubu made all the filters for all the variables happen 20:04 kidclamp Hey, we made some big changes! Exciting! SCSS now has a yarn build process that Owen highlighted 20:04 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_22_August_2018 Agenda 20:04 kidclamp #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#HTML9:_filter_all_the_variables Global XSS fix 20:03 kidclamp #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Working_with_SCSS_in_the_OPAC_and_staff_client SCSS for staff and OPAC 20:03 kidclamp #topic Announcements 20:03 cait thx for waiting 20:03 cait Laptop froze... restarted 20:03 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 20:02 kidclamp waiting for you 20:02 cait did we info already? 20:02 kidclamp :-) 20:02 cait sorry 20:02 kidclamp I scared cait off 20:01 josef_moravec #info Josef Moravec, Municipal Library Usti nad Orlici 20:01 bag #info Brendan gallagher Bywater 20:01 huginn` Current chairs: cait kidclamp 20:01 kidclamp #chair cait 20:01 greenjimll #info Jon Knight, Loughborough University 20:01 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 20:01 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe 20:00 kidclamp #topic Introductions 20:00 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_22_august_2018' 20:00 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:00 huginn` Meeting started Wed Aug 22 20:00:43 2018 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00 kidclamp #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 22 August 2018 20:00 cait kidclamp? :) 19:59 cait yes 19:58 greenjimll Yes! 19:58 kidclamp meeting? 19:58 greenjimll Perldoc on Koha::Patron only describes the methods it implements itself, rather than all the ones it inherits (some of which are table column names from a table that isn't called "patron" ;-)) 19:58 josef_moravec greenjimll, cait: I use code itself often ;) 19:57 cait yeah the perldoc could help you there 19:57 greenjimll All the objects. I get that there's a load of inheritance going on, but (for example) working out what methods Koha::Patron exposes was a grep-a-thon in the source code. 19:56 josef_moravec greenjimll: there is https://perldoc.koha-community.org/ 19:55 josef_moravec greenjimll: do you mean Koha::Object ? Or all code api? 19:55 * josef_moravec waves ti cait 19:54 greenjimll Is that a document that shows what the methods are for all the objects? That would make things much easier for newbie programmers on Koha. 19:54 * cait waves at josef_moravec 19:53 greenjimll I was flicking between database schema, and source files constantly. :-) 19:53 cait the database tables don't match, but it was more logical that way 19:53 greenjimll Not so much a question, more an observation. I was writing the GDPR exporter code at the time. 19:53 cait we name them according to the gui terminology 19:52 cait saw your question abot the objects yesterday 19:52 cait hi greenjimll 19:51 greenjimll Evening all. 19:36 cait ashimema: in 25 19:15 ashimema Meeting? 19:15 huginn` cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Mostly Cloudy :: 79F/26C | Wind Chill: 79F/26C | Wednesday: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the mid 60s. Wednesday Night: Some clouds. Low 64F. Winds light and variable. 19:15 cait @wunder konstanz 19:15 huginn` cait: Portland, OR :: Clear :: 81F/27C | Wednesday: Partly cloudy. Areas of smoke and haze are possible, reducing visibility at times. High 91F. Winds W at 5 to 10 mph. Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Areas of smoke and haze are possible, reducing visibility at times. Low near 55F. Winds N at 10 to 15 mph. 19:15 cait @wunder portland 19:01 bshum *two thumbs up* 19:01 cait koha people... can't go wrong :) 19:00 bshum Ah I didn't see it was in Portland. Too bad. Hope it's a good time. 18:58 bshum Always a good thing 18:57 cait also alerts you in a better way about mistakes 18:57 cait automated suggestions - bgkriegel activated a free service, but i think there are paid options too 18:57 bshum Ah, exciting! 18:57 cait and it can make autm 18:56 cait search is finally working really well 18:56 cait the new Pootle is nice 18:56 cait my second visit to the US :) 18:56 bshum Just checking things for my own curiosity :) 18:56 cait did you see KohaCon is in Portland soon? 18:56 bshum We're considering Pootle setup (or some other i18n solution) on the other side 18:56 cait what do you want to know? :) 18:55 cait :) 18:55 bshum (or really just getting signed up to get behind the wall and check some of what you all are up to these days) 18:55 cait new pootle version i think? 18:55 bshum I was admiring the new login process for the Koha translations server 18:51 cait :) 18:51 * bshum waves back at cait 18:51 * cait waves at bshum 18:33 Guest1274 Project Koha_Master_D8 build #33: ABORTED in 3 hr 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/33/ 18:28 * cait waves 18:18 wahanui what's up, tcohen 18:18 tcohen hi 16:37 Veronica Thank you very much, I will begin to perform your steps 16:36 caroline_ that's all I can think about regarding reservation emails 16:35 caroline_ Make sure you have an email in KohaAdminEmailAddress https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/html/02_administration.html#kohaadminemailaddress 16:34 caroline_ Make sure you check "email" in the patron's messaging table https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/html/04_patrons.html#add-a-new-patron 16:34 caroline_ Make sure you have EnhancedMessagingPreferences enabled https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/html/02_administration.html#enhancedmessagingpreferences 16:33 caroline_ Make sure you have a "HOLD" notice in Tools > Notices & Slips https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/html/03_tools.html#notices-slips 16:32 Veronica can not find an online manual on the subject, that can be provided to me please 16:29 caroline_ Do you receive other types of emails, like advanced notices, etc.? 16:29 caroline_ The email column is checked? 16:28 Veronica yes+ 16:27 caroline_ In the patron record, under Patron messaging preferences, do you see "Hold filled" in the table? 16:26 Veronica broken link of the img please can you send me again 16:26 Veronica I think so, I can not see the capture 16:22 caroline_ Does the user have the "hold filled" email preference checked in their record? https://snag.gy/RKph4n.jpg 16:19 Veronica Help please, how to do to receive reservation alerts in my mail, Thanks 16:19 Veronica Help please, how to do to receive reservation alerts in my mail, Thanks 16:19 Veronica Help please, how to do to receive reservation alerts in my mail, Thanks 16:16 caroline_ I'll ask the mailing list, maybe I'll get more opinions 16:14 caroline_ So if not everybody uses ISBD, shouldn't the xslt look in the leader in order to check if you used punctuation or not? 16:06 cait sorry, have to run! bye all 16:06 cait we need to readd it in lots of places for things to look right 16:06 cait actually germany doesn't do isbd punctuation with marc... so i am in a different hell 16:05 cait i think we remove sometimes, because a dot looks strange or we are not displaying all subfields... or i am no sure 16:05 caroline_ so if it can't assume you haven't catalogued correctly (double negative = addled brain), it should never add or remove punctuation and just leave it as the cataloguer entered it 16:03 cait because it can't assume you haven't catalouged correctly... sounds like it might be a bug 16:03 cait i think usually we remove it and it should not add one 16:02 caroline_ aacr2 was pretty much erased from my mind the second I graduated 10yrs ago so I'm not sure when there's supposed to be a period and when there's not supposed to be... 16:00 caroline_ But if my 264$c has a period, the xslt removes it 15:59 caroline_ if my 100 already has a period, it adds a second period 15:59 caroline_ let's say my 100 has no period (.) at the end, the xslt adds a period. 15:57 caroline_ are the stylesheets supposed to add or remove punctuation to the marc data? 15:56 caroline_ I have a question about xslt 15:55 Guest1274 Project Koha_Master_U18 build #32: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/32/ 15:29 Guest1274 Project Koha_Master_D9 build #544: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/544/ 14:58 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15408: Remove fund's timestamp when cloning a budget <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4615a2f817dc08e8d89c667646bff8dcc0b1c28> 14:58 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20248: Improve Elasticsearch mappings UI and rebuild_elastic_search.pl. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=23f78a6c2a6557aac557ae65261bce0e7baced61> 14:58 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19719: Add new column for collection in the patron checkouts data tables <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd4d17ace14052662f78d38eae2084cfefa12b9d> 14:58 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19719: (follow-up) Show description instead of code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c143b52acfadc300aa649c25aae34f433a709d6> 14:58 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20487: (QA follow-up) Requested db revision <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=74cc24d227835ee822707dd808382371f1a6bae8> 14:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19719: (follow-up) Add database update to keep collection column hidden <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18e122a78cb7f0ac84161cd908b4e03ec6401c48> 14:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 17625: adding subfields f and g to XSLT display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe9c6450979b5b7fd05821dd22c523ea6d10d3cd> 14:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20984: Add 300$f to display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a122a5333445299da8a01e47a65b25f733e6ce7c> 14:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21011: Search for items with not defined homebranch and/or holdingbranch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d47bb311827298ddc30297bbd388e8f8905db48> 14:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20509: Search for not defined authority codes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9558a118dacd74b77c27f63fc41611945aeff052> 14:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21011: (follow-up) Fix pod, fix missing homebranch condition, change mode to... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5892ab07118b04a8071b49c40b441df326e15f07> 14:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20509: Add to script documentation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b73cc22890aadae0fa6afd9d82d5109cc47fd80> 14:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21150: Search for item types inconsistencies <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6fd1a8c11484e8c1cd771aea0c6ac98a2ab18f40> 14:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21182: Remove acqui/check_duplicate_barcode_ajax.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f05bda8fd6a3a079c4042dc15f6372a2d62f451> 14:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15408: Fix tests to fail without patch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc55ecbe42a413ca1df54b34ec18597f01465522> 14:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21150: add the biblionumber to the output <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=76141a352ed5ff8c9541c0d4b1c99e22e5339add> 14:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20248: (QA follow-up) Remove unnecessary stuff <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a49490a2f4c67e121cd475ee5866e9bef25d134e> 14:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20631: Remove unused RemoveLostItem from C4::Accounts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ccfa48f6ee8ec44d1621874383b10f68d939f34> 14:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20487: DBRev 18.06.00.018 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=579e53de7e98f96a9a2bf558a6e859366416fd2c> 14:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19719: DBRev 18.06.00.019 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a11b1083bff404b57f3ac959489f0a2b7a94f6e1> 14:56 huginn` cait: I doubt it very much. 14:56 cait @eightball will it rain today? 14:55 huginn` cait: It is possible. 14:55 cait @eightball when will it rain? 14:55 huginn` cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Clear :: 89F/32C | Wind Chill: 89F/32C | Heat Index: 89F/32C | Wednesday: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the mid 60s. Wednesday Night: Some clouds. Low 64F. Winds light and variable. 14:55 cait @wunder Konstanz 14:50 ashimema ;) 14:50 * caroline_ whispers "sorry!" 14:50 ashimema ssshh 14:49 caroline_ matches the weather here (gray and rainy) 14:49 caroline_ quiet on irc too 14:49 cait hi caroline_ 14:49 cait really quiet day on bugzilla 13:42 marcelr and caroline_ 13:42 marcelr hi tcohen 13:42 tcohen hola marcelr caroline_ 13:12 caroline_ bonjour! 13:00 marcelr will the camel survive the snake? ;) 12:30 tcohen of course! 12:29 cait tcohen: if we do, we shoudl back that up with our coding guidelines 12:28 tcohen what eythian said 12:28 tcohen we reject CamelCase anyway 12:27 cait mornign tcohen 12:27 tcohen morning 12:27 cait updated: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_22_August_2018#Agenda 12:25 eythian perl style tends to be snake for subs, camel for modules. 12:24 cait i think it's probably straightforward (i hope) 12:24 alex_a ok 12:24 cait :) 12:24 cait i will 12:24 alex_a I' won't take part 12:24 cait oh wahanui. 12:24 cait irc meeting? 12:24 cait hm 12:24 cait next meeting? 12:24 cait next meetings? 12:23 alex_a it's that 12:23 alex_a yep 12:23 cait found it i think https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#PERL9:_Subroutine_naming_conventions 12:22 cait but not finding any camels 12:22 cait alex_a: wanted to update the agenda for dev meeting to update the coding guideline 12:22 alex_a i'm writing subs in Koha namespace. So, snake case is more consistent 12:22 cait Joubu: around too? 12:20 cait alex_a: which rule where you referring to? 12:20 cait i have to say i like camels more than snakes 12:19 cait heh 12:19 alex_a we_should_fix_the_guideline 12:17 cait and we shoudl fix the guideline? 12:17 cait but i think they do snake case for Koha... so probably would stick with that there 12:17 cait tonight is dev meeting if you want to put the quetion there 12:17 cait heh 12:16 magnuse sip2-- 12:14 calire lol 12:13 alex_a :) 12:13 alex_a I tried a mix Camel/snake but i got caught by Joubu 12:12 alex_a Question about coding guidelines: Wiki says Camel case for subs naming. But most of them in Koha namespace are snake case (more recent). Which one is good ? 12:10 cait ? :) 12:09 kidclamp sebastian++ 12:08 cait paul_p_: pretty sure the American university in rome still has Koha 12:03 cait matts: pm 12:02 matts cait, around indeed 12:02 matts kidclamp, thanks for the feedback 11:29 cait matts: around? 11:28 marcelr hi cait kidclamp 11:28 cait kidclamp: update docs? :) 11:28 kidclamp hi marcelr 11:28 kidclamp hi matts 11:28 cait hi marcelr 11:28 huginn` kidclamp: The operation succeeded. 11:28 kidclamp @later tell matts <branchcode is="">DEFAULT</branchcode> does seem to work in shib 11:26 marcelr hi #koha 10:29 cait you could still join us :) 10:27 eythian (mind you, he's more of a "many ideas, only some actually happen" sort of person.) 10:26 eythian nice. hm, a friend of mine was talking about organising a trip there some time, but I haven't heard anything since. 09:53 rangi eythian: that one and deschutes are the ones people have been telling me are must dos 09:51 kidclamp hi rangi and calire 09:51 calire hi kidclamp 09:50 rangi hi kidclamp 09:49 rangi thats the plan 09:49 * kidclamp waves 09:48 eythian (it does look very good.) 09:46 eythian rangi: are you going there? 09:42 rangi this looks dangerously good 09:42 rangi eythian: http://www.cascadebrewingbarrelhouse.com/index.php?p=beer 09:09 * andreashm waves too 08:57 rangi hey eythian_ 08:57 eythian_ hi 08:57 rangi heya magnuse 08:56 magnuse kia ora rangi 08:55 * magnuse waves to all the cool people 08:41 rangi https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon18/Social 2 ideas for sunday now 08:40 rangi evening 07:37 * calire waves 07:34 paul_p 'morning andreashm 07:34 andreashm (paul_p) 07:34 andreashm hey paul 07:29 paul_p hello cait ! 07:28 cait morning paul_p 07:28 cait yep, second week already 07:24 andreashm back at work? 07:24 cait morning andreashm 07:20 andreashm hi cait 07:14 alex_a hello calire 07:07 andreashm hi calire 07:07 calire hi alex_a, andreashm 07:05 andreashm salut alex_a 07:04 wahanui privet, alex_a 07:04 alex_a bonjour 06:14 calire hi josef_moravec 06:13 josef_moravec hi calire 06:10 calire morning #koha 03:34 paxed it sure felt much colder 03:33 huginn` paxed: Joensuu, Finland :: Clear :: 46F/8C | Wind Chill: 43F/6C | Wednesday: Sunny skies this morning will become overcast during the afternoon. High 62F. Winds WNW at 5 to 10 mph. Wednesday Night: Rain. Low 48F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 100%. Rainfall near a quarter of an inch. 03:33 paxed @wunder joensuu 00:33 tcohen hola