Time Nick Message 22:44 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #533: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/533/ 22:16 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #532: FAILURE in 5 min 26 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/532/ 22:09 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #531: STILL FAILING in 43 ms: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/531/ 22:09 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #530: STILL FAILING in 49 ms: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/530/ 22:08 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #23: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/23/ 22:05 * cait has some fun with bugs :) 22:04 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #529: STILL FAILING in 45 ms: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/529/ 22:02 jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #23: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/23/ 21:59 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #528: STILL FAILING in 38 ms: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/528/ 21:54 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #527: STILL FAILING in 44 ms: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/527/ 21:49 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #526: STILL FAILING in 34 ms: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/526/ 21:44 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #525: STILL FAILING in 32 ms: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/525/ 21:41 cait hehe 21:41 rangi heh 21:41 kidclamp now I run away before the unit tests call out my mistakes 21:41 kidclamp :-) 21:41 kidclamp but I killed Jenkins! 21:40 cait kidclamp++ 21:39 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #524: STILL FAILING in 32 ms: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/524/ 21:34 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #523: FAILURE in 35 ms: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/523/ 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19436: Add SRU support for authorities <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7baa452a6a1609fae801802889dffe9ece32c20d> 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19436: (QA follow-up) Revert change in _handle_one_result <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=15088c67d6c1960e98c216321985d667ccf26706> 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19436: (QA follow-up) see 19608 Fix use of intranet-bottom in template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=838c8ea5ff3c6ae399c4e23018aaf83fb10f96ab> 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21018: Fix TrackClicks for 952$u <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d14ed73744fa23d4ed649da6d847f4b37cdfce92> 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21018: Allow uris defined in the item <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d888c8d0e9ee2eda9c793cf75fd73a7afeaef16> 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21048: Fix display of suggestion's status (SUGGEST_STATUS) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b25c063f950076234cf7bb4a496921983a7cc23f> 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21075: AutoUnsuspendHolds should unsuspend holds <= today <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c0f7aed84d663029b2f1b37ce0391b5a40b10b97> 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21075: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e5865ee4feaca3ca5575ce45d11fc88d88dc43d> 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21041: "Merge patrons" button remains disabled with "Select all" option <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4b9021895a46bda5234cd6c852f339ba7cd4d882> 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21099: Reposition floating toolbars earlier <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=68e735b10151d7b70187fa7f9d4ecb2b94b34e6a> 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21048: (QA follow-up) Fix authorized value statuses in filter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1e8193a84a8df6d70ad8de16dadb8c4301a706b> 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 14662: Add empty entries to pull downs on item form for mandatory subfields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=003a4439802bc4053ed9e5db7719434256788b29> 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21151: Fix SRU search fields mapping pop-up <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=039d10044ce16f5a45ab35b79ea69d0526a1a519> 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21145: Do not show buttons for datatables on opac detail page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c0eb67a5572294c33e3f82c928e1cad709cb1c3a> 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 14662: Add empty entries to pull downs in cataloguing form for mandatory subfields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=038e4011d4e4c1270592d476479062467a7a9be8> 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21149: Fix superlibrarian creation in onboarding <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d463a1b3473106a0b501d6247afdc0f7f84a4ff4> 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21163: Basket group detail page layout is broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=76603cc6b077cc9bc45bdc3688a94d290680777b> 21:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7143: Update timeline (2 new devs) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=70bfac5ce5ee8e806015861d6cb473dfe1ee80b6> 20:48 cait yep, go to the zoo with us :) 20:47 rangi Joubu: you are of course invited too! 20:47 rangi i find the best way to beat jet lag is walking outside and getting tired so you sleep well :) 20:46 rangi have the free breakfast at the hotel, get the lightrail, look around zoo, have lunch there then look around hte park (if the weather is nice) 20:46 rangi yep :) 20:45 cait that was the idea i think :) 20:44 tcohen :-D 20:44 tcohen are you joining me? 20:44 rangi http://explorewashingtonpark.org/# <-- the zoo is in this park 20:43 rangi and then look around the park too 20:43 rangi https://www.oregonzoo.org/ 20:43 cait few includes me :) 20:43 rangi a few of us are thinking to go to the zoo on the 9th 20:42 tcohen it depends on the type of zoo 20:42 tcohen I do 20:40 rangi tcohen: do you like zoos? 20:35 rangi hi tcohen 20:35 tcohen hi rangi 20:20 cait ah :) 20:18 rangi just 2 20:17 cait how many different buses? 20:16 cait morning rangi 20:15 rangi morning 20:08 cait oleonard++ 19:19 oleonard Happy to help! 19:18 Joubu oleonard: you are awesome, thanks for testing!! 19:16 Joubu ok thanks 19:16 oleonard I followed the test plan, "Use t/db_dependent/Koha/Patrons.t to populate your DB with autogenerated data which contain <script> tags" 19:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC 19:15 Joubu oleonard: did you use "Bug 13618: [DO NOT PUSH] have fun" to insert "bad" data? 16:41 oleonard :D 16:40 Joubu too bad, you are not gonna cool down with an English beer 16:39 * ashimema clocks off.. needs a pint.. it's too hot 😉 16:35 tuxayo o/ kidclamp 16:33 * kidclamp waves, sorry all 16:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Internationalization: plural forms, context, and more 16:29 Joubu tuxayo: the issues of our current system is that it's custom, hard to read/maintain and does not deal with what bug 15395 is trying to answer 16:28 Joubu heh probably 16:27 tuxayo Joubu: then you are missing food :P 16:27 tuxayo I don't know more about of the issues caused by the current system. Maybe we should document them so the benefits of using gettext would be more clear 16:25 tuxayo Not having the translation process to eat CDATA tags in RSS would be a pro also. 16:25 Joubu same, I may be missing something (and I am starving) 16:25 * oleonard goes back to testing 13618 16:24 oleonard ...it just feels like we're doing things halfway and piecemeal 16:24 tuxayo Joubu: ho I though in the .po files 16:24 * oleonard probably doesn't know enough to have an intelligent conversation about it 16:23 Joubu I am only talking about strings in .tt 16:23 tuxayo We would also win not having the JS broken by the double quote in the translation 16:23 Joubu tuxayo: for strings in .tt? 16:23 tuxayo Joubu: I though there would be less markers? 16:22 Joubu at least it is how I undestood it 16:22 Joubu your* 16:22 Joubu oleonard: you question was about using it everywhere :) 16:21 oleonard Joubu: ...Which Bugs 15395 and 21156 propose anyway 16:21 Joubu we wouldn't win much, but lost a lot of time and energy (what we do not have anyway...) 16:21 Joubu if we do so we will need to update all the strings, it will be a lot of work and a lot of additional "markers" in the templates 16:20 Joubu oleonard: I do not think there are cons, but our custom system works quite well (even if a bit buggy) 16:19 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Internationalization: plural forms, context, and more 16:19 tuxayo bug 15395 i think 16:19 tuxayo oleonard: «Anyone know why we don't use gettext for all translatable strings?» 16:16 ashimema Lol..huh 16:16 oleonard I don't know if there's an argument against it besides, "It would be a lot of work." 16:15 oleonard Seems like we could have a single process for strings in templates and javascript 16:14 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21156 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Internationalization: plural forms, context, and more for JS files 16:14 oleonard Like Bug 21156 16:12 Joubu oleonard: what do you mean? 16:12 Joubu :D 16:12 Joubu ashimema: I thought you were the author of "Koha::Objects are so awesome [...]" 16:11 * Joubu just fell of his chair 16:11 oleonard Anyone know why we don't use gettext for all translatable strings? 16:05 oleonard Yes 16:04 Joubu oleonard: hope that makes sense 16:04 Joubu branches.opac_info, IntranetUser* and OPACUser* prefs, ISBD view, etc. 16:02 Joubu like... 16:02 Joubu however, sometimes (that's the hard bit, when?), we want to store HTML code and style blocks 16:02 Joubu so yes, you should see "<script>" 16:02 Joubu oleonard: 99% of the time, when a variable (value from DB and retrieved from the .pl and resent to the template) is a string which contains html tags, the html tags must not be interpreted by the browser and displayed as it 16:00 Joubu oleonard: it... depends :) 16:00 Joubu thanks tuxayo :) 15:58 tuxayo Joubu: thanks for the warning about BZ 12310, I'll fix that at the same time with the QA feedbacks 15:57 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC 15:57 oleonard Joubu: In testing Bug 13618, if I see a <script> tag output on the screen that means it's working, correct? 15:57 tuxayo I wonder how other comparable projects do in regard of getting ressources for these kind of issues that compromise the viability of the project if neglected. 15:56 tuxayo Joubu: these kind of refactoring (moving to Koha namespace) are definitely important. So ++ for bringing them in the discussion so they don't get forgotten. 15:52 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20248 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Passed QA , Elasticsearch - Improvements to mappings UI and indexing script 15:52 Joubu jajm: bug 20248, https://screenshots.firefox.com/EeG5M4P78NVOdnr5/pro.kohadev.org 15:47 Joubu this is what I get 15:47 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12310 major, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Failed QA , Decimal separators issues in patrons payments/fines 15:47 Joubu error: sha1 information is lacking or useless (koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/paycollect.tt). 15:47 Joubu Applying: Bug 12310: (QA follow-up) Fix typo: unformating → unformatting 15:47 tuxayo whoops ^^" 15:46 ashimema was the bug 15:46 ashimema 12310 15:44 ashimema not grr at you 15:44 ashimema grr 15:44 ashimema bet you've moved to gitlab for that too haven't you 15:44 ashimema and the apply_on_cascade branch 15:44 ashimema tracking your github git-bz 15:44 Joubu which bug #? 15:43 ashimema yeah.. 15:43 ashimema in the sandbox scripts 15:43 Joubu not you, but your git-bz repo ;) 15:43 Joubu ashimema: are you up-to-date? 15:42 ashimema File "/home/koha/koha-dev/bin/git-bz", line 1781, in do_apply\n print "%d - %s" % (patch.attach_id, patch.description)\nUnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u2192' in position 56: ordinal not in range(128) at /home/koha/contrib/sandbox/cron/../Run.pm line 28. 15:42 ashimema any idea's where this comes from in the sandboxes 15:42 ashimema grr 15:34 ashimema My hope is if people see us moving stuff along they'll jump in a bit more 15:34 ashimema it's 2 more than just you ;) 15:34 ashimema 3 is a start ;) 15:34 ashimema if you guys are up for that.. 15:34 ashimema oregon is 8 hours behind me.. I'm thinking of offsetting my days for the kohacon18 hackfest.. see if I can join you remotely 15:33 Joubu 3 is not enough 15:32 tcohen teamwork++ 15:32 ashimema as I said.. tcohen and I will get cracking on through whats there and keep this stuff in mind as we go.. then we can work out next steps as a team 15:30 ashimema but I've not got my thinking straight yet there so haven't braught it up yet much 15:30 ashimema I'm also not entirely happy with the current mix of busines logic within model classes.. 15:30 reiveune bye 15:30 Joubu keep it in mind and start to think about it ;) 15:29 ashimema totally 15:29 Joubu we have a lot of possibilities 15:29 Joubu $patron->can_reserve($item); $item->can_be_reserved_by($patron; Koha::Circulation::can_be_reserved($patron, $item); 15:28 Joubu Circulation, Reserve (Can*Be*), etc. 15:28 ashimema it was the beggining of a bigger conversation i wanted to push 15:28 Joubu we were just moving easy parts so far, it will get complicated (architecturally speaking) when we will move the "C4 core" 15:28 ashimema I agree 15:27 Joubu yes ashimema but filter_by_* is not enough 15:27 ashimema deffo.. that's exactly where I was going with my last comments on that last comment on bug 20469 15:27 tcohen indeed, what the heck 15:26 Joubu KohaCon18's hackfest will be a good place for that, without you ashimema :-/ 15:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20469 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, BLOCKED , Add item status to staff article requests form 15:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11983 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, In Discussion , Code to select patrons to purge needs to be centralized 15:26 ashimema well.. even sorta started talking about such stuffs in bug 11983 and bug 20469 :) 15:26 ashimema I'm also totally open to having that conversation 15:26 Joubu for instance Koha::Patron::HouseBound should be inherent from Koha::Patron, etc. 15:25 tcohen Joubu: I'm really open to talk about that 15:25 Joubu we will need to think about a more pragmatic, object-oriented way 15:24 Joubu There is also something else we will need to talk about, so far we were "just" moving sub to methods in a naive way 15:22 Joubu replace all the C4::*::GetStuffsFrom with Koha::*->find or ->search, that's all 15:22 ashimema let tcohen and I see how this first one goes.. with any luck having two heads looking at it in combination and bouncing the code off each other will mean we can pick it up quicker :) 15:22 tuxayo 😱 the graph 15:22 Joubu the code is very easy, we are talking about CRUD operations here 15:22 Joubu ashimema: nope, that's wrong, they are very easy to review 15:22 ashimema hense my tag teaming approach.. 15:21 oleonard Joubu: I think it's important, and I appreciate your efforts 15:21 ashimema but yeah.. they tend to be big scary looking patchsets and need a considerable effort to review and qa 15:21 Joubu tuxayo: yes, https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=15449 15:21 ashimema I certainly agree it's important and am trying hard to fit them in.. 15:20 Joubu If you guys do not feel it's important, I need to know it and adjust my priorities 15:20 tuxayo Joubu: you mean bugs 18252 and 20443 ? 15:20 Joubu I feel like it's a priority for the projects, for robustness, maintaibility and new enhancements (easier to write and test) 15:19 tcohen ashimema and I agreed to tackle them together to get faster results 15:19 Joubu I know it's not fun to test, but it's fun (at least I think) to review 15:19 tcohen Joubu: there's not much workforce on the project and that's the main problem 15:18 Joubu I am writing them for at least 2 years, and it it very hard to get people testing and QAing them 15:18 Joubu about the refactoring, I wanted to know how peeple feels about these patches 15:17 Joubu back 15:10 tuxayo o/ cait 15:10 cait bye all 15:08 ashimema it'll be a nice distraction ;) 15:08 ashimema though is also a release day in theory.. so could be busy ;) 15:08 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/development_irc_meeting_8_august_2018.2018-08-08-14.01.log.html 15:08 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/development_irc_meeting_8_august_2018.2018-08-08-14.01.txt 15:08 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/development_irc_meeting_8_august_2018.2018-08-08-14.01.html 15:08 huginn Meeting ended Wed Aug 8 15:08:06 2018 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 15:08 Joubu #endmeeting 15:08 tcohen works for me 15:08 Joubu #info Next meeting: 22 August 2018, 20 UTC 15:08 ashimema works for me 15:07 ashimema okies 15:07 Joubu Next meeting: 22 August 2018, 20 UTC? 15:06 tcohen ashimema: indeed! 15:06 * ashimema would like to see bywaters docker based sandboxes invested in a bit more.. they feel like the next logical step 15:06 Joubu #topic Set time of next meeting 15:06 Joubu ok, see later 15:06 Joubu or at least done, 90% of them 15:06 Joubu I moved all of them to gitlab/k-c, it has been voted already 15:06 ashimema defer to a general meeting 15:05 cait agreed 15:05 Joubu vote what? 15:05 ashimema yeah.. agreed 15:05 tcohen how we handle satellite repos 15:05 tcohen I think we should vote this on a general meeting 15:05 cait i thnk we need someone to work out a votable suggestion maybe? 15:05 ashimema and working on them today highlighted at least documentation issues if not others (still digging) 15:05 Joubu actions? 15:04 * ashimema uses contrib solely for sandboxes 15:04 ashimema fair enough 15:04 cait maybe more a question of how to handle access too? who can push etc 15:04 ashimema at some point i was submitting stuff to Joubu directly for sandboxes improvments I think 15:04 Joubu people who contributes know how to contribute, and nobody else will contribute to contrib. So not a big deal 15:03 cait i feel like maybe make gitlab the main one... and mirror on kc? 15:03 ashimema that's where this question came from really 15:03 ashimema at the moment there's really not a clear aproach on how to contribute to those.. 15:03 tcohen I think we should consider contrib abandnware, and use whatever we need, on gitlab 15:03 cait and hea 15:02 cait so we actually have to repos already for qa-test-tools 15:02 cait i know, was looking at kc 15:02 tcohen cait: https://gitlab.com/koha-community 15:02 cait what's the master repo? 15:02 Joubu (I am not voluntering) 15:02 cait hea etc. 15:02 cait they are also there... 15:02 cait hm how do we handle qa-test-tools? 15:01 Joubu and, that was my second point, contrib should be split before moved 15:01 ashimema is koha-plack on there ever used now for example 15:01 Joubu either we remove them from git.k-c.org, or we need to think and setup something that fit our needs 15:01 ashimema I imagine a cleanup could happen on contrib.. 15:01 ashimema indeed 15:00 Joubu the problem with release-tools and contrib is: we have it on git.k-c.org and what about issues, patches, sync? 15:00 ashimema and submitted fixes too recently ;) 15:00 tuxayo +1 for moving sandboxes 15:00 ashimema I use release-tools now ;) 15:00 cait ah yes, it makes sense, we could split up the contrib one 15:00 ashimema I think splitting out sandboxes could be useful indeed 15:00 Joubu 1 sec :) 15:00 Joubu that's the one 15:00 Joubu https://gitlab.com/koha-community/release-tools 15:00 Joubu ho, I actually created 15:00 jajm sandbox is used, but maybe it could be extracted into its own repo ? 15:00 cait sandboxes? 15:00 Joubu but can be done, maybe just a mirror of the git.k-c.org 14:59 Joubu release-tools: nobody really uses it, so I did not 14:59 Joubu there are some projects not moved to gitlab yet: release-tools, contrib and maybe more 14:59 ashimema :) 14:58 Joubu ashimema: for you 14:58 Joubu #info Last projects to move to gitlab/k-c (should contrib be split?) 14:58 Joubu ok moving on, 2 minutes to go 14:58 Joubu and we ended up with these fieldsX (not callnumber actually, cardnumber!) 14:58 cait i still feel checkout history doesn't belong there 14:58 Joubu it comes from a commit of 2005 that added a sub, then this sub has been used for ILS-DI GetRecords 14:57 jajm Joubu, no 14:57 cait interesting, thx tuxayo 14:57 Joubu jajm: seen the callnumberX for the last 3 checkouts in the answer? 14:57 tuxayo With hope that the official API will make it useless someday 14:56 tuxayo We still have to maintain it 14:56 jajm ashimema, i think the question should be "do we want backward compatibility ?" and i think the answer is yes and we should not remove anything for the ils-di responses 14:56 tuxayo cait: yes https://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/koha-restful 14:55 cait is koha-restful still a thing? 14:55 ashimema I read issues as 'historical loan information' when i read the first email.. is that right 14:54 tuxayo tcohen: «but I think they moved to koha-restful» For some things, ILS-DI is still use IIRC 14:54 ashimema record, holdings and item information.. does 'issues' constitute item information is the question I suppose 14:54 ashimema reading that for a second or third time it does look more open to opinion than I thought it did first time 14:54 tuxayo And not only. Also Bokeh (http://bokeh-library-portal.org) uses it. 14:54 tuxayo tcohen: «biblibre they use a Drupal <-> Koha connector» 14:54 cait from what you cited 14:53 cait i think record and items 14:53 ashimema fair enough 14:53 jajm ILS-DI allows basically anything to be returned 14:53 Joubu ok, moving on, will see later if I need more info 14:52 Joubu https://old.diglib.org/architectures/ilsdi/DLF_ILS_Discovery_1.0.pdf 14:52 Joubu returned, the bibliographic identifier would be the key." 14:52 Joubu identifier (unless the specified return schema does not support it). If a hash is 14:52 Joubu associated holdings and item information for each requested bibliographic 14:52 Joubu "A list of record objects that represents the bibliographic record, as well as 14:51 ashimema but yeah.. would be worth askin users 14:51 jajm tcohen, the koha connector still use some parts of ils-di 14:51 ashimema I would vote to push it closer to the spec if there was a vote 14:51 cait that might cover some other cases 14:51 cait we could check if the vufind driver uses it for something 14:51 tcohen but I think they moved to koha-restful 14:50 tcohen that at some point was implemented on this I think 14:50 Joubu cait: if we add columns in some tables, it will be added to the xml 14:50 tcohen they use a Drupal <-> Koha connector 14:50 tcohen biblibre 14:50 ashimema whose using it heavily thouhg ;) 14:50 tcohen and not part of the spec 14:50 tcohen I think this is a shortcut someone took 14:50 cait what is the other info? 14:50 Joubu the specs are not clear 14:49 Joubu can I contact someone using it heavily to know which are the info they need? 14:49 Joubu ok, it can be an answer for that one, but for the other info? 14:48 cait actually, i'd rather say it's unnecessary and could be a privacy issue 14:48 cait and i don't see any use there for issues 14:48 Joubu git log told me it's historical and should not be there, but... who knows? 14:48 cait the ils-di is supposed to allow you to link Koha to a discovery interface (DI) 14:47 Joubu whereas it returns a lot of stuffs 14:47 Joubu we have an example in the opac/ilsdi.pl view, but for instance GetRecords does not have anything in the <issues> tag 14:47 Joubu working on removing GetItem (using in ILS-DI subs) I realize that it's not clear to me what this service is supposed to return 14:46 Joubu #info ILS-DI GetRecords (see ML) 14:46 Joubu yes, moving on 14:46 cait like into a security bug 14:46 thd Is there no standard Perl module for limiting such input? 14:46 cait maybe we should move that discussion out of th emeeting 14:46 cait double ouch 14:45 Joubu everything is allowed 14:45 jajm [% PERL %] is allowed ? 14:45 ashimema ouch. 14:44 Joubu tcohen told me that we already have this problem: letter.content can contain TT directives and so execute whatever commands 14:44 Joubu we need to know how we can trust on data in the DB 14:43 Joubu I have described several solutions, I do not think they are acceptable 14:43 Joubu read the commit message for more info ;) 14:42 Joubu if the $regex contain something else than a regex, perl will evaluate it anyway (rm, ls, etc.) 14:42 Joubu something like that, cannot remember the exact syntax 14:42 Joubu to evaluate it, we will need to use eval { $callnumber =~ $regex }; 14:41 cait btw... example on the bug is a real life example from the sponsoring libraries 14:41 Joubu of even better: "s/(foo)bar/$1pouet/g" 14:40 Joubu like we store "s/foo/bar/g" 14:40 cait handing over to joubu ;) 14:40 Joubu So basically the issue is: we using stored regexs to split on the callnumber 14:40 tcohen cait: can you explain the problem? 14:40 cait i already #info'd earlier, so leaving it at that now if there are no questions 14:40 cait because at the moment only those break nicely on multiple lines on labels 14:39 cait i think it's a really cool feature for libraries not using DDC/LOC 14:39 cait so it would be cool if people could take a look 14:39 cait Joubu has written this very nice feature, but we are a little stuck on the best way to handle the regex in a secure way 14:38 Joubu cait: ^ 14:38 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15836 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Labels: Offer configuration option for splitting call numbers 14:38 Joubu #info Bug 15836 - Labels: Offer configuration option for splitting call numbers 14:38 Joubu (not for the end user) 14:38 Joubu yes, side effects are expected with that changes, they usually highlight issues with the current code. So it's good 14:37 cait maybe if done before kohacon, we could try and get people on it there 14:37 Joubu and then I will open a discussion after the meeting about that patches :) 14:37 cait we had some side effects last time, so should have some time to hunt them down 14:37 cait but it should be done really soon 14:37 cait sounds good to me 14:36 Joubu at least for CRUD in a first step 14:36 Joubu I am going to submit the same kind of changes for C4::Items, I have local patches to replace GetItem with Koha::Items->find, like we did for Koha::Patron the idea is to use Koha::Item objects everywhere and simplify the code 14:36 tcohen its ok 14:36 cait but info is good 14:36 cait ah typo... 14:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20443 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Move C4::Members::Attributes to Koha namespace 14:36 cait #action ashimea and tcohen to review bug 20443 together 14:36 ashimema #info Martin and Tomas are going to schedule a paired QA for bug 20443 14:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18252 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Move C4::Items code to the Koha namespace 14:35 Joubu #topic Bug 18252 - Move C4::Items code to the Koha namespace 14:35 Joubu moving on, there are 5 more 14:35 ashimema done.. we'll hit it together.. will grab you out of meeting to schedule 14:35 cait tcohen++ too 14:35 tcohen ashimema++ 14:35 cait but also can be outside, just asking :) 14:35 ashimema I can try and dedicate a monday or tuesday afternoon (to overlap with your morning?) 14:35 tcohen ashimema: absolutely 14:34 cait would it help to schedule a qa day again? 14:34 ashimema tcohen.. feel like you've got the time/inclination to take it on with me at some point? 14:34 tcohen I volunteer 14:34 tcohen to make it move faster 14:34 Joubu jajm: read the log, it's not a 3000 lines diff ;) 14:34 cait i like the idea 14:34 tcohen 2 QA members take on it together 14:34 ashimema +1 14:34 Joubu for QAer I have split the commits, to make them easy to read 14:34 tcohen we need to coordinate this testing I think 14:34 ashimema I was more thinking perhaps a couple of QA team could get together to review it as a set for half a day.. bit of peer coding/reviewing. 14:34 jajm okay, but it's easier to miss something in a 3000 lines long diff 14:34 Joubu oleonard: for testers it's easier 14:33 oleonard In that case it is in effect a monolithic commit 14:33 Joubu and wait for 10 testers and 10 QAers 14:33 Joubu It's safer as it. Otherwise I need to provide 10 stable states 14:32 Joubu jajm: what I just said 14:32 jajm Joubu, could it be split into 10 bugs then ? testing/QAing that kind of bug can be really long 14:32 Joubu than have 10 bug reports and have to test all the features 10 times 14:32 * ashimema is working through reviewing it.. but it is indeed a pretty massive piece.. 14:32 Joubu it's easier to have only 1 bug report and test everything 14:32 tcohen we'll see :-P 14:32 Joubu when I move the code I describe what I am doing, commiting the things 1 by 1 14:31 Joubu it's not a monolitic commit 14:31 Joubu there are 10 commits 14:31 tcohen it touches too many things, that's it 14:31 Joubu tcohen: ? 14:31 Joubu ^ that's the interesting bit, we remove 2/3 of the code 14:30 tcohen Joubu: that's too much 14:30 Joubu 41 files changed, 713 insertions(+), 2017 deletions(-) 14:30 Joubu bug 20443 is quite a big refactoring one, it adds several interesting things to the Koha:: namespace 14:30 tcohen wwhat about it 14:30 ashimema okies 14:29 Joubu yes, see linked bug reports 14:29 thd Now I understand better, a meta-bug. 14:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20443 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Move C4::Members::Attributes to Koha namespace 14:29 Joubu #topic Bug 20443 - Move C4::Members::Attributes to Koha namespace 14:29 cait #info if you have ideas for data consistencies to look out for, file a bug and link it to bug 21010 14:28 thd I presume that 21010 is intended for some fundamental DB inconsistencies. 14:28 Joubu moving on in few sec 14:28 Joubu if you have ideas, please comment on bug 21010 :) 14:27 cait refresh wiki if you want - all bugs linked now too 14:27 ashimema much like some of the other warnings we have in there 14:27 ashimema would be nice for it to run with any/all upgrades and set a flag in about 14:27 Joubu if you think about something else, just open a new bug report and link it to that one 14:27 oleonard I think it would be very useful! 14:27 Joubu oleonard: ^ :) 14:27 oleonard :) 14:26 Joubu then we could move it to the UI if needed 14:26 oleonard Joubu: Should it be a built-in report which can be accessed from the staff client? 14:26 ashimema :+1: 14:26 Joubu the idea is to provide a script that will catch problematic situations 14:26 cait done 14:26 Joubu I have started with authority types, item types and items.$branch 14:26 Joubu I think we really need a script to catch data inconsistencies (at DB level so) 14:25 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize to SO 13618 and discuss next steps with Jonathan 14:25 cait will do 14:25 Joubu ashimema: yep! 14:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21010 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add a script to search for data inconsistencies 14:25 ashimema OK.. I'm happy to have further discussion with Joubu after this meeting to move 13618 on.. we can move on topic in the meeting I reckon 14:25 Joubu #topic Bug 21010 - Add a script to search for data inconsistencies 14:25 Joubu cait: please add it to the wiki, I am processing the item 1 by 1 14:24 Joubu cait: that is another topic right? 14:24 Joubu the script I wrote to generate the patch will more or less be what we will need to write the regression tests 14:23 Joubu all [% %] will need to have a filter (even if not filtered, it will do nothing) 14:23 cait #info input needed on how to best make Bug 15836 - Labels: Offer configuration option for splitting call numbers secure. 14:23 ashimema indeed 14:23 Joubu ashimema: we will have a unit test, to parse the .tt files 14:22 Joubu to test that one, you will need time, patience, and understand the issues globally 14:22 cait talking about security, ig to another one 14:22 ashimema haha.. well everything an automated pen tool may catch ;) 14:22 Joubu I wrote a script to insert problematic data in the DB 14:22 ashimema I'll add it back to my list.. just it's a long list ;) 14:22 Joubu everything? lol :) 14:22 Joubu so you can wait for 2 more years if you like :) (i.e. that was my last call about it) 14:21 ashimema have you thrown any pen test tools against it to varify it's caught everything? 14:21 Joubu I personnaly do not care that much, I have written scripts to do the rebase job 14:21 cait :) 14:21 ashimema I should sign that one off.. I've commented that it looks solid.. I just wanted to get a branch setup and throw a pen test tool at it first 14:20 Joubu this is an important one and need to be pushed ASAP 14:20 Joubu I have been working on it for months (years?) now and we have finally a working and ready solution 14:20 Joubu QA team and everybody concerned by security issues (so, all of your, right?) must take a look at that one 14:20 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC 14:20 Joubu #topic Bug 13618 - Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC 14:19 Joubu so quickly, starting with 14:19 oleonard In short, you all should sign off on my patches :P 14:19 Joubu I have added several ones there 14:19 Joubu #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 14:19 tcohen moving on 14:19 cait i'd think so 14:19 Joubu moving on? 14:18 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 14:18 Joubu cait: looking at the message_queue table 14:18 ashimema not on ptfs ones right now ;) 14:18 cait does email work there? 14:17 cait hm also wondering how it could be tested with sandboxes 14:17 ashimema well sleuthed cait 14:16 cait and it had bugs fixed after the sign-off so back to get tested again i think 14:16 oleonard Sorry cait I don't have an example off the top of my head. 14:16 cait seafarmer: it only has one sign-off - the sandboxes one was ed himself i tihnk 14:16 ashimema sounds like it should be SO from a quick skim read 14:14 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Needs Signoff , Test mode for notices 14:14 oleonard seafarmer: Bug 8000 is marked "needs signoff." Is that incorrect? 14:14 cait i think patch writer sshould always include a test plan 14:14 cait can you give some examples to look over? 14:13 cait oleonard: it's good to get feedback on the reasons 14:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20724 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , ReservesNeedReturns syspref breaks "Holds awaiting pickup" 14:13 ashimema It's a db cleanup script as a followup to bug 20724. I think it's ready for signoff but Joubu commented it needs discussion? 14:13 cait #info next step for Elasticsearch is Bug 18316 - Add weighting/relevancy options to ElasticSearch. Additional testing/sign offs might make it move faster! 14:13 seafarmer just passing by to shill for bz8000, there's already 2 SO on it 14:13 oleonard Right now, the reason I'm not doing more signoffs is I'm not confident I know how to test properly. I don't know if it should be my job to ask or the patch-writer's job to make it easier. 14:12 cait ashimema: can you explain about the bug above? 14:12 cait #info Needs Signoff is way too high with lots of bugs waiting for testers - please sign-off! 14:12 cait so we really need sign-offs atm I think 14:11 cait and numbers going up 14:11 cait tons of bugs waiting there 14:11 cait the only reason we are in good shape in QA is that the sign-offs are way too slow 14:11 cait yes, that's the other problem 14:11 Joubu 2 criticals and 9 majors waiting for SO 14:11 cait quite a lot of elasticsearch bugs 14:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20773 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , bug 20724 follow-up - Database cleanup 14:11 * ashimema wonders if we need to promote bug 20773 for opinions 14:10 cait problem is, we have a lot of bugs that sit there for quite a time and nothing easy left 14:10 tuxayo :D 14:10 cait #info qa queue is in an ok shape, slowly going down, below 40 now 14:10 cait the qa queue is in an ok shape 14:10 cait waiting for ashimema 14:09 ashimema sorry.. that was a bit late ;).. over to you QA 14:09 Joubu cait, something? 14:09 ashimema I believe fridolin is up to date on 17.11 and 17.05 too.. though he's away imminently and will struggle to keep up this month 14:09 Joubu #topic Updates from the QA team 14:09 Joubu yep ashimema++ good job on following bug fixes :) 14:09 tcohen ashimema++ 14:08 oleonard ashimema++ 14:08 ashimema think that's it from me 14:07 ashimema yeah.. feels pretty stable at this point.. though there's a fair few more minor bugs already making their way into 18.05.x for 18.05.03 14:07 Joubu #info If you plan to use 18.05.x in production, pick 18.05.02 or later 14:07 cait ashimema++ 14:07 * tcohen agrees 14:07 Joubu at least to catch the last bugs 14:07 Joubu I feel like 18.05.02 is finally ready for production 14:07 ashimema also, I caught a series of bugs that had got missed between handover.. had a good tidy up of bugzilla 14:06 ashimema #info 18.05.x: I have been pushing a fair bit this week after a backlog after vacation.. I'm all up to date and awaiting kidclamps next set of pushes 14:06 ashimema Been pushing a fair bit this week after a backlog after vacation.. I'm all up to date and awaiting kidclamps next set of pushes 14:05 tcohen heh 14:05 Joubu ashimema, something? 14:05 tcohen kidclamp++ 14:05 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi 14:05 Joubu #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 14:05 cait kidclamp++ ;) 14:05 Joubu (that's why you should attend meetings) 14:05 Joubu #action kidclamp push all the things 14:05 tcohen hi 14:05 Joubu #info RM was in holiday, back this week and will push all the things 14:04 Joubu #topic Update from the Release Manager (18.05) 14:04 cait nope 14:04 cait nopd 14:04 ashimema well.. not seen kidclamp today actually 14:04 ashimema they were here only a few minutes ago.. I'm sure 14:03 Joubu Anyone have something? 14:03 Joubu #topic Announcements 14:03 Joubu kidclamp, tcohen, jajm? 14:02 Joubu (refresh it if opened) 14:02 AndrewIsh #info Andrew Isherwood, PTFS Europe, UK 14:02 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_8_August_2018 14:02 tuxayo #info Victor Grousset, BibLibre, France 14:02 cc_ #info Colin Campbell, PTFS-Europe, UK 14:01 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK 14:01 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA 14:01 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 14:01 ashimema dev meeting now.. I'll get back to this after 14:01 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 14:01 Joubu #topic Introductions 14:01 cait hey! :) 14:01 tuxayo wahanui: ping! 14:01 huginn Current chairs: Joubu cait kidclamp 14:01 Joubu #chair cait kidclamp 14:01 cait no wahanui 14:01 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_8_august_2018' 14:01 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:01 huginn Meeting started Wed Aug 8 14:01:20 2018 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01 Joubu #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 8 August 2018 14:01 cait kidclamp: ? 14:01 Joubu wahanui! 14:01 cait here 14:01 Joubu qa_team? 14:01 Joubu rmaints? 14:01 tuxayo ashimema: I'll retry with less options. Because the sandbox doesn't have the DB, BZ and lang hasn't been set up 14:00 ashimema mutt 14:00 ashimema yup 13:59 Joubu ha 13:59 * ashimema digs back in 13:59 Joubu ashimema: is the file in /tmp been processed/removed? 13:59 ashimema so hopefully it's just the email that's failed 13:59 ashimema I think you should find if you revisit the page it'll say it's setup and waiting for you.. 13:58 ashimema I'll have another look 13:58 ashimema I reckon I've not got it totaly right yet then 13:58 ashimema hmm 13:58 tuxayo ashimema: no email so far 13:57 tuxayo But renouncing to such activities due to fear would be terrible. 13:57 tuxayo I heard the same tip in France. 13:56 Joubu well on the same page: "You will almost certainly never need to use it, but packing a weapon of some kind to help with self-defense is always a good idea." 13:55 Joubu section "One Final Legal Note" 13:55 Joubu oleonard: sounds like it's not: https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/hitchhike-across-united-states/ 13:55 cait meeting in 5? 13:52 tuxayo ho :( 13:52 oleonard tuxayo: I assume the fear is at least a little less irrational in this country :( 13:51 eythian there was a month when hitchhiking was the easiest form of transport for me to get from where I worked into the nearby town. 13:51 tuxayo oleonard: illegal, what a surprise :o In Europe also people will fear. Not sure how much is irrationnal. (e.g. studies about the percived probability of being physically assaulted compared to reality) 13:47 oleonard tuxayo: Hitchhiking in the U.S. is both illegal and considered unsafe 13:47 ashimema cheers tuxayo :) 13:47 tuxayo ashimema: thanks I'm trying :) 13:46 tuxayo oleonard: So the heat comes from you! >< 13:46 ashimema http://kohastaffsandbox.ptfs-europe.co.uk/cgi-bin/koha/sandbox.pl 13:46 ashimema anyone fancy testing a ptfs sandbox for me.. it should be all fixed but I'm not 100% sure whether the emails are getting out.. or rather whether they're not going into spam because of a local rule I have or because I've got it right ;) 13:46 tuxayo oleonard: only 350 km, Marseille-Badajoz is 1500km. That would have been crazy. 13:45 oleonard While Europe is sweltering we're enjoying very mild weather... unusual for this time of year. 13:44 tuxayo oleonard: what about you? How's it going? 13:43 oleonard Have you done hitchhiking trips before? 13:43 tuxayo Appart from that, trying to get the pile of bugs/tickets down :) 13:43 tuxayo The good thing of not going there is that I hadn't to hitchhike from Marseille this precise day! ^^" 13:42 tuxayo oleonard: hot, but in a parallel universe I would have been (instead of Marseille) in what seems to be hottest place in Europe this summer. Badajoz (Spain) during this week. saturday is was 44°C, I'm curious about how would that have felt. 13:42 * Joubu says hi and is gonna fill the agenda with topics 13:32 oleonard Hi tuxayo, how's it going? 13:08 tuxayo That would be funny ^^ 13:08 tuxayo oleonard: «moving some people to a new wiki page called IRC Irregulars» 13:07 tuxayo o/ tcohen 13:04 andreashm afternoon 13:04 cait morning tcohen :) 13:02 tcohen morning! 12:41 * oleonard considers moving some people to a new wiki page called IRC Irregulars 12:38 cait ashimema++ thx for fixing up sandboxes :) 12:36 cait oleonard: thx for comment, I have tried to add a note for release notes, pqa now 12:27 cait hm who again checks on wahanui? wizzyrea? 12:27 cait Bug 14272 12:27 cait oleonard: coudl you take a look at my last comment on the single news entry one? 12:26 cait oleonard: sure :) 12:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Switch single-column templates to Bootstrap grid: Cataloging 12:25 oleonard cait: Thank you for the signoff on Bug 20044. 12:11 ashimema thanks for the tips 12:10 ashimema we should document that.. the readme instructions still say to alter the .gitignore and leave it uncommited 12:09 ashimema ah.. could well be 12:06 jajm ashimema, git reset is not supposed to touch untracked files, but there is a call to `git clean -d -f` just after the reset that might be the one responsible 12:04 ashimema fun 12:04 ashimema seems in a reset --hard it will reset before reading the .gitignore 12:03 ashimema that would make sense 12:03 ashimema aha.. 12:03 jajm look at git core.excludesfile in ̀`man git-config` 12:02 jajm ashimema, ah, on biblibre sandboxes, sandbox.pl and sandbox/ are ignored in a .gitignore outside of repo (not very pretty...) 11:57 ashimema seems the `git reset --hard` call inside the cron job script is ignoring the updated but not commited .gitignore 11:56 cait hi oleonard 11:56 ashimema really odd 11:56 ashimema okies 11:56 ashimema no sign of it on gitlab 11:56 jajm ashimema, if it hasn't been moved to gitlab yet, then yes git.k-c.org is the best place 11:55 ashimema wondering if that's a solved issue, a random oddity on my setup or something else entirely. 11:55 ashimema which breaks them immediately 11:54 ashimema I've fixed my tmp issue but not I'm finding that the sandbox script nukes the symlinks on first run 11:54 ashimema or is there a more up to date version somewhere I'm missing 11:54 ashimema jajm.. is git.koha-community still the best place to grab contrib from for the sandboxes? 11:40 oleonard Hi #koha 11:37 saa ok 11:37 cait sorry, i've run out of ideas 11:33 saa yes 11:33 cait sudo? 11:28 saa koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v library 11:28 saa yes 11:28 cait hm 11:27 cait using the package command? 11:27 saa it has only 7000 records 11:26 saa i am running -f -v 11:24 cait you want to do a full or a partial reindex? 11:23 cait how are you running the rebuild btw? 11:23 cait sorry, i am not sure on how to fix 11:19 saa my last indexer-output.log line says this 11:19 saa DBD::mysql::st fetchrow_arrayref failed: fetch() without execute() [for Statement "SELECT COUNT(*) FROM zebraqueue WHERE done = 0;"] at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 327 11:13 saa can i try deleting zebraque and recreating but how to do that 11:11 saa i didnt do anything manually 11:11 saa hw do i check if i have done or nt done 11:11 saa no 11:11 cait have you restarted memcache, plack etc after your update? 11:11 cait if the table is there, deleting and recreating it shouldnot change a thing 11:10 saa only searching 11:10 saa yes 11:10 cait your koha otherwise works ok? 11:10 saa which i used to restore 11:09 saa can i check anything in my sql 11:09 saa ihave done migration from 16.11 to 17.11 11:09 saa then what could be the solution 11:09 cait and if other tables are affected 11:08 cait you could... but then you might not figure out what went wrong 11:08 saa i have spent lot of time onthis 11:08 saa and then try to reindex data 11:08 saa can i delete that table recreate it 11:08 saa i am using 17.11.08 11:08 cait hm that's odd 11:07 saa when i checked in mariadb it is there 11:07 saa sorry 11:07 cait which version of koha are you on? 11:07 saa yes it is not there 11:07 cait saa: can you check if the table is really missing from your database? 11:07 saa do i need to create zebraque table 11:02 saa i already have mariadb installed with koha 17.11.08-1 11:02 saa DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'koha_library.zebraqueue' doesn't exist how can i sort this 11:02 ashimema just with some extra scripting wrapped around them to hand git pulling, bz application and db refreshing 11:02 ashimema yeah.. sandboxes are in effect dev installs 11:01 nlegrand ashimema: it's a custom dev install so it may be weird :) (but I think we will switch to packages one day) 11:01 ashimema that sounds very promising 11:00 ashimema interesting 11:00 nlegrand ashimema: and add a line like this in it: d /var/run/koha 775 koha www-data - # See tmpfiles.d(5) for details 11:00 nlegrand ashimema: we had to put a file like this : /etc/tmpfiles.d/koha.conf 11:00 * ashimema really really needs to get up to speed with systemd one day.. still stuck in the dark ages of init here ;) 10:59 cait it seem slike the bug goes int his direction too 10:59 nlegrand ashimema: now /var/run is a tmpfs managed by stystemd, so everything is wiped when rebooting the machine 10:59 saa my indexer-output.log says DBD::mysql::st fetchrow_arrayref failed: fetch() without execute() [for Statement "SELECT COUNT(*) FROM zebraqueue WHERE done = 0;"] at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 327. 10:58 huginn Bug 20428: major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , MARC import fails on Debian Stretch 10:58 cait https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20428 10:58 ashimema I think they use tmp files for ipc effectively 10:58 jajm ashimema, you can disable this with systemd PrivateTmp option i think 10:58 ashimema I'm reminding myself how the sandboxes work as I go along to be honest 10:58 ashimema sorta.. 10:58 nlegrand ashimema: you're talking about files like starman socket ? 10:58 ashimema issue I have jajm is that since switching to systemd the tmp files are no long in /tmp they're in /tmp/systemd-private-randomstring-apache2.service-randomstrig/ 10:57 cait could it be related? 10:57 cait i think we changed something for the cronjobs because of that 10:56 ashimema I have a vague recollection of something along those lines on bz 10:56 saa wht could be the solution for my search issue 10:56 ashimema indeed 10:55 ashimema may well be my setup ;) 10:55 ashimema I'll do a little digging 10:55 cait ashimema: i think bugzilla had something about that 10:55 jajm i'm not aware of any problem with the tmp files 10:55 jajm ashimema, they're running on ubuntu 16.04 (lts) with systemd 10:54 ashimema seems the ptfs snadboxes are failing due to where systemd now puts tmp files.. wondered if they'd already come across the problem and had a solution (save me a few minutes working it out myself) 10:53 saa only 1% is used /dev/sda1 902G 8.3G 848G 1% / 10:53 * ashimema is wondering what deb version they're running on.. whether it's a systemd system? 10:53 ashimema who maintains the biblibre sandboxes these days? 10:53 saa Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on udev 7.8G 0 7.8G 0% /dev tmpfs 1.6G 18M 1.6G 2% /run /dev/sda1 902G 8.3G 848G 1% / tmpfs 7.8G 17M 7.8G 1% /dev/shm tmpfs 5.0M 16K 5.0M 1% /run/lock tmpfs 7.8G 0 7.8G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs 1.6G 8.0K 1.6G 1% /run/user/1000 10:53 saa it has enough space 10:52 saa with -v i tried and it gave error 901.................................................................................................Killed Something went wrong rebuilding biblio indexes for library" while running rebuild-zebra 10:52 jajm saa, `df -h` can tell you how much space is left on your disks 10:52 cait maybe it will give more info 10:52 ashimema df 10:52 cait oh you could also try and run the rebuild with -v 10:51 cait i mean i am not good there - someon else might be able to help 10:51 cait hm sorry, not so good on command line 10:51 saa hw can i check 10:50 cait saa: do you have enough disc space? 10:50 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21175 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Handle locations and collections with no matching authorised value in patron checkouts table 10:50 cait jajm: done: bug 21175 10:50 saa same query was posted two days back as well 10:49 saa i have tried all options but no luck sofar 10:49 saa can someone help 10:49 saa and zebra output log says "zebrasrv(2) [warn] ir_session (exception)" 10:48 saa my koha zebra error log says "ibrary-koha-zebra: client (pid 16581) killed by signal 15, stopping 10:48 saa it throws error 901.................................................................................................Killed Something went wrong rebuilding biblio indexes for library" while running rebuild-zebra 10:48 jajm ok thanks 10:47 saa i am struggling to get koha search working after upgrade 10:47 cait jajm: i will file another bug and link it 10:46 cait but AuthorisedValues.GetByCode returns the value itself if no match is found, we could definitely mimick that 10:46 cait CCODE is assumed in a lot of other places too, just did a quick chekc 10:45 jajm ok 10:44 cait then fix loc and collection in one go 10:44 cait hm also ok for me 10:44 cait collections should use CCODE - otherwise things get really strange 10:44 jajm as you suggested 10:44 jajm maybe we should just keep it like that, for consistency with location, and raise the question in another bug 10:44 cait i think we can check for not using an AV list, but not for using another 10:43 cait if it found something use that... otherwise display the value as is? 10:43 cait lookign at it right now 10:43 cait i think? 10:43 cait hm we'd maybe just need to change the '' 10:42 jajm yes i saw that 10:41 cait see the lines above the ones you commented on 10:40 cait so the problem might be ok on another bug maybe? haven't checked other part sof the code 10:40 cait i think i copied the behaviour from location 10:40 jajm cait, i'm not sure if i can pass qa on 19719, can you have a look at the last comment ? 10:36 magnuse cait: yes, i think it makes sense, thanks! 10:26 lds :) 10:20 tuxayo lds: indeed :) 10:20 jajm cait, ok thanks :) 10:20 tuxayo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Metric_system_adoption_map.svg 10:20 tuxayo It's "interesting" /s that many systems default to non metric units when so few countries still haven't adopted it. 10:20 tuxayo nlegrand: > mph? ho bugger. If France made one thing right it was the metric system. 10:19 cait also been sitting in the queue for a while now 10:19 cait ... had my fingers in that one... but i think it fits 'nice' 10:19 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19719 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jesse, Signed Off , Add a new column for collection in the patron checkouts data table 10:19 cait bug 19719 10:18 cait jajm: let me take a quick look 10:18 lds tuxayo: can be insomniac? 10:17 tuxayo So they might not be here now ^^' 10:17 tuxayo lds: rangi is on the opozite side of the planet (NZ) 10:17 jajm cait, i'm looking for a nice enh to qa before switching to other stuff, any suggestions ? 10:17 lds rangi: hello ?? 10:16 lds cait: is it possible to have rangi email address? 10:16 lds cait: yes new serveur 10:15 cait jajm: still on qa? 10:15 cait new server? 10:15 cait np :) 10:15 lds cait: thanks :) 10:14 cait lds: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Website_Administration#koha-community.org_DNS 10:13 cait lds: i think rangi 10:12 lds I plan to migrate the koha mailinglist server. who should I contact for changes dns? 10:11 nlegrand mph? ho bugger. If France made one thing right it was the metric system. 10:09 huginn nlegrand: Paris, France :: Partly Cloudy :: 67F/20C | Wednesday: A mix of clouds and sun during the morning will give way to cloudy skies this afternoon. High 81F. Winds WSW at 5 to 10 mph. Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Low 64F. Winds N at 5 to 10 mph. 10:09 nlegrand @wunder Paris 10:08 * nlegrand ondule 10:06 * andreashm waves 09:58 cait hi lds 09:58 cait jajm++ 09:57 lds hello 09:55 cait magnuse: did that make sense? was thinking of using a 59x or 5x9 field maybe 09:52 cait with all the export formats we offer i'd do some serious testing first 09:52 cait but i am not sure if they work in all cases yet, they work at least for normal (xslt) view now 09:51 cait magnuse: you probably could try it now with the improved visibility settings 09:51 kohaputti magnuse, I had just the same question in mind 09:49 magnuse are there any biblio-level notes that are hidden in the opac but visible in the staff client by default? 09:06 cait ah... no wahanui 09:06 cait next irc meeting? 09:06 cait hm 09:05 cait next meeting? 09:05 cait next meetings? 08:55 tuxayo Good for the plants! 08:55 tuxayo > Chance of rain 100% 08:54 huginn tuxayo: Marseille, France :: Thunderstorm :: 79F/26C | Wednesday: Thunderstorms, some locally heavy this morning, then partly cloudy during the afternoon hours. High 86F. Winds S at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 100%. 1 to 2 inches of rain expected. Wednesday Night: A few clouds. Low 74F. Winds SSE at 10 to 15 mph. 08:54 tuxayo @wunder Marseille 08:50 cait sorry, got disconnected 08:50 cait hi andreashm 08:47 * magnuse wishes he could be there 08:46 andreashm magnuse: yup! 08:46 andreashm hi cait 08:45 magnuse andreashm: awesome! 08:44 Nemo_bis thunderstorms, yum 08:40 cait :D 08:40 huginn cait: Upfingen, Germany :: Overcast :: 66F/19C | Wednesday: Scattered thunderstorms developing this afternoon. High near 80F. Winds W at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60%. Wednesday Night: Some clouds. Low 62F. Winds light and variable. 08:40 cait @wunder Upfingen 08:39 eythian that is much better than yesterday's 35° 08:39 huginn eythian: Amsterdam, Netherlands :: Mostly Cloudy :: 72F/22C | Wednesday: Generally cloudy. High 73F. Winds WSW at 15 to 25 mph. Wednesday Night: A clear sky. Low 57F. Winds SSW at 10 to 15 mph. 08:39 eythian @wunder amsterdam 08:31 * cait waves 08:29 andreashm to bad! 08:28 tuxayo andreashm: well, no ^^' 08:28 andreashm tuxayo: are you going? 08:26 tuxayo andreashm: yay :D 08:26 tuxayo o/ magnuse 08:26 andreashm travel grants from the user group ftw! 08:25 andreashm magnuse: yup, around 15 08:24 magnuse andreashm: do you know how many from sweden are going to kohacon18? 08:24 magnuse tjänare andreashm 08:24 andreashm hi magnuse 08:24 * magnuse waves 08:23 andreashm that's good at least 08:23 tuxayo andreashm: For other reasons I resigned from that plan. Still had two weeks mid july :) 08:19 andreashm Vacation fiasco? 08:19 tuxayo That's the positive side of my vacation fiasco. At least I avoided hell :) 08:18 tuxayo Max 34°C , that's not much. Last week max was 44°C (111°F) And I should have went there hitchhiking! 08:12 huginn tuxayo: Badajoz, Spain :: Clear :: 68F/20C | Wednesday: Sunny. High 93F. Winds W at 10 to 15 mph. Wednesday Night: A clear sky. Low 62F. Winds WNW at 10 to 20 mph. 08:12 tuxayo @wunder badajoz 08:12 * andreashm waves 07:56 cait heh 07:56 jajm thank you cait, it was a very easy patch to qa ;) 07:55 cait thx jajm :) 06:44 reiveune hello 05:44 paxed ha. translate toolchain isn't happy with <input [%IF foo %] title="translatable text" [%END%] />