Time  Nick        Message
23:22 huginn      cait: The operation succeeded.
23:22 cait        @later tell oleonard could you maybe take another look at bug 20312? I was not sure about the look and the Javascript
22:40 huginn      cait: khall was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 0 days, 9 hours, and 45 seconds ago: <khall> yes, I think we should. I'll go ahead and submit a squashed patch set to bugzilla
22:40 cait        @seen khall
22:39 huginn      cait: The operation succeeded.
22:39 cait        @later tell khall forgot if I sent you a later already, looks like your dev env is misconfigured: John Doe <you@example.com>
22:17 cait        ok
22:17 Joubu       I am waiting for Owen to test
22:16 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Switch single-column templates to Bootstrap grid: Cataloging
22:16 cait        Joubu: is bug 20044 correct in FQA with your follow-up?
21:40 caroline    bye all!
21:39 cait        you are not alone
21:37 tcohen      I missed the meeting!
21:37 tcohen      he
21:37 tcohen      nevermind?
21:36 cait        tcohen: hm?
21:34 ashimema    My German is bad.. it was nice to have an excuse to try and remind myself 😉
21:27 cait        ashimema: oh?
21:26 tcohen      cait: yes
21:26 tcohen      hi
21:00 ashimema    Lol, someone's out of office just stretchedy German a bit..
21:00 caroline    Hello rangi !
20:59 rangi       morning
20:57 ashimema    Those are also on my list
20:56 cait        :)
20:55 caroline    Good news! We already have Limesurvey installed
20:52 cait        you missed me being grumpy about the sandboxes
20:52 ashimema    I blame vacation brain.. got my days totally muddled.. apologies for missing it
20:52 cait        hehe
20:52 ashimema    Balls... Too late
20:48 cait        looking forward to meet you!
20:45 davidnind1  Looking forward to it - my first KohaCon in real life!
20:45 cait        :D
20:44 bag         One last point - very exctied to see y’all in Portland for KohaCon18!!! should be THE fun!
20:43 bag         cait++
20:43 davidnind1  cait++
20:43 cait        thx all!
20:43 huginn      Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_1_august_2018.2018-08-01-20.03.log.html
20:43 huginn      Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_1_august_2018.2018-08-01-20.03.txt
20:43 huginn      Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_1_august_2018.2018-08-01-20.03.html
20:43 huginn      Meeting ended Wed Aug  1 20:43:32 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
20:43 cait        #endmeeting
20:43 cait        thx
20:43 wahanui     that is still relevant
20:43 Joubu       that?
20:43 Joubu       #info Next meeting: 5 September 2018, 13 UTC
20:43 cait        joubu can you help me out with the formatting?
20:42 cait        first wednesday
20:42 cait        sorry september
20:42 thd         or Sep.?
20:42 thd         Aug?
20:41 davidnind1  Date and time ok to me!
20:41 thd         Randomised question order could help if limesurvey can do that.
20:41 cait        13 utc?
20:40 cait        august 5?
20:40 cait        when shall we meet next?
20:40 cait        if there is nothing else, i am moving toward ending the meeting
20:39 cait        caroline++
20:39 cait        cool
20:39 georgew     Yes, I believe it does
20:39 cait        does that also cover the otpions in the questions?
20:39 caroline    anything else I'm missing?
20:39 cait        georgew: thx :)
20:38 bag         georgew++
20:38 thd         bag: No, I always vote for the least popular option ;)
20:38 caroline    randomize the questions and ask for name, email, institution
20:38 caroline    ok so between 4-6 weeks
20:38 thd         ... that actually goes to the point of some people not having a strong prefernce.
20:38 georgew     Limesurvey allows you to randomize question order
20:38 bag         thd: do you always vote for the first option?
20:37 cait        fine by me, i think 4 weeks would be good too
20:37 thd         Even with 2 options the first option probably has some advantage.
20:37 caroline    is that ok?
20:37 caroline    I'm going to give it a month and a half after it's up
20:37 cait        i think we should not overcomplicate
20:37 cait        with 2 options?
20:37 thd         How the choices should be ordered should be considered.  There is probably some advantage to whomever appears first on the ballot.
20:37 caroline    Well, I'm going to need a bit of time to get to know limesurvey and have it installed here
20:36 cait        we should have a few weeks for voting to catch the people on vacation
20:36 cait        caroline: you think it's ok?
20:36 cait        september 30th sounds good to me
20:36 davidnind1  And taking on the challenge!
20:36 cait        stockholm++ dublin++ :)
20:36 davidnind1  Two great looking options, thanks to the bidders for putting in the time and effort!
20:35 cait        both proposals are between may and june
20:35 thd         A sophisticated survey might try to catch some null option where people are voting without a real preference but we should avoid the complexity required to account for such voting.
20:35 bag         Sept 30th?
20:35 cait        when should the vote finish?
20:34 cait        as both locations are in europe, they are kind of close :)
20:34 * caroline  adds organize voting on her todo
20:34 cait        choose your preferrd
20:34 bag         yeah probably have it that you can only choose one
20:33 thd         As there are only two options we do not have to worry about the complexities of the methodology for counting ranked votes.
20:33 cait        #action caroline to organize the vote
20:33 Joubu       apparently we did not host it last time, there is "How to minimise potential issues: " section
20:32 caroline    cool thanks davidnind1
20:31 Joubu       so it should be hosted to remove duplicates
20:31 cait        davidnind++
20:31 cait        was just looking for that page
20:31 cait        ah thx perfect davidnind
20:31 Joubu       well yes it is, I think we had issue last time with people voting several times
20:31 davidnind1  https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Processes_for_KohaCons
20:31 caroline    Do we have a start/end date to the vote?
20:31 thd         We should not actually vote until late September to avoid missing too many people on holiday.
20:31 caroline    Ok, I guess it's not that complicated, I could try to organize the vote
20:30 cait        it's supposed to be an online form that people can fill out
20:30 cait        i thin the last were done using limesurvey or similar
20:30 caroline    how does it work?
20:29 cait        is someone willing to organize? I think the last ones were done by drojf, who is not here tonight
20:29 cait        so we will have a vote!
20:28 cait        #info there are 2 bids for KohaCon19 with bidding now officially closed: Dublin and Stockholm
20:28 cait        #topic KohaCon19
20:27 cait        ok, if there aren't anymore questions, we can move on?
20:26 davidnind1  Thanks!
20:26 cait        #info 188 registrations so far - no cutoff for registrations
20:26 bag         no cut off date
20:25 davidnind1  Is there a cutoff date for registrations?
20:25 bag         we have 188 registered so far - I am expecting so where around 150 to show up
20:25 Joubu       yep, excellent
20:25 bag         ah unconference - no set schedule :)  we’ll decide what we’re going to do on the different days of the hackfest.  I think that the RM will be a default leader of those days
20:24 cait        how many registrations:) just curious
20:24 Joubu       what do you mean "unconference"? :)
20:24 bag         what do you mean “registrations”?
20:23 cait        registrations? :)
20:23 cait        #info Bring ideas for the hackfest! (style will be an unconference)
20:23 bag         hmm…  Don’t know about room sharing board...
20:23 cait        #info Cultural day will be an optional fun run/walk in the early morning.  Then going to the Portland history musuem, lunch, and then to the Japanese Gardens for the afternoon.
20:23 bag         any other questions?
20:22 bag         Bring ideas for the hackfest (the style will be an unconference)
20:22 * thd       will send a message to mailing list about possibly sharing a room
20:22 bag         Cultural day will be an optional fun run/walk in the early morning.  Then going to the Portland history musuem, lunch, and then to the Japanese Gardens for the afternoon.
20:21 cait        #info Still seaking sponsors!
20:21 cait        #link https://kohacon2018.bywatersolutions.com/schedule.html Program
20:21 thd         Is there a room sharing board?
20:21 cait        #info Program is set
20:20 bag         We are still seaking sponsors to help with the costs - only 3 pledges so far (and 2 more that said they will commit some funds)
20:20 bag         https://kohacon2018.bywatersolutions.com/schedule.html
20:19 bag         The program is set
20:19 bag         So right now we’re expecting around 150 people maybe a few more
20:19 cait        sneaking i another topic for a little update
20:19 cait        #topic KohaCon18
20:19 bag         yes
20:18 cait        bag, around?
20:18 cait        it oculd help before events or when someone asks for finding some bugs they could test
20:17 Joubu       ok
20:17 cait        we have easy bugs not marked Academy
20:17 cait        not necessarily
20:16 Joubu       that would implicitely mean than others are not testable on a sandbox
20:16 tuxayo      Thanks for the notification :)
20:16 tuxayo      cait: no really here, sorry.
20:16 cait        could maybe jsut be Sandbox
20:15 cait        so maybe a keyword to mark them could help
20:15 cait        that's a bit harder as you have to clean indexes etc
20:15 cait        currently there is a lot of elastic
20:15 Joubu       most of them should be testable on a sandbox
20:14 caroline    I think it's a good idea from a search point of view
20:14 Joubu       or the reverse?
20:14 cait        we use Academy for easy bugs, but sometimes those are related to documentaiton fixes in cronjobs or similar, so not testable
20:14 cait        the other question was if we could add a keyword for bugs testable on sandboxes
20:13 cait        yeah :(
20:13 cait        #action  bag to check on status of Bywater's sandboxes
20:13 Joubu       they all have a different errors, that's fun
20:13 huginn      cait: downloading the Perl source
20:13 cait        @action bag to check on status of Bywater's sandboxes
20:12 cait        thx bag
20:12 bag         yeah not sure why our’s are down - we’ll take a look
20:11 cait        i think none of hte hosters are around, apart from bag maybe?
20:11 cait        #info All sandboxes are currently down. There is no info if this if for maintenance on the wiki.
20:10 cait        I've tried, it's at least since last week, maybe longer
20:10 cait        that means all 3 providers of sandboxes and no note on the wiki about if it's maintenance or whatever
20:09 cait        on top of that i got feedback from someone who was willing to sign offf, that all sandboxes are broken
20:09 cait        so that's unusual high
20:09 cait        at the moment the QA queue is mostly under control, but we got 66 bugs waiting for sign-off and 245 bugs total
20:08 cait        this is from me and i am here.. so:
20:08 cait        #topic Encouraging sign-offs/testers
20:08 cait        ok, moving on
20:08 cait        i don't think anyone is here :)
20:07 wahanui     RMaints is ashimema (18.05), fridolin (17.11 and 17.05)
20:07 cait        RMaints?
20:07 cait        #topic Update on releases
20:07 cait        ok, moving on
20:06 cait        any announcements anyone?
20:06 cait        #topic Announcements
20:06 cait        ok, moving on then
20:05 cait        tuxayo: ?
20:05 MichaelKuhn #info Michael Kuhn, Switzerland
20:05 cait        giving it a minute longer or so
20:04 bag         #info Brendan Gallagher, ByWater
20:04 davidnind   #info David Nind, wellington, New Zealand
20:03 thd         #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
20:03 cait        #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
20:03 tuxayo      caroline: considering it's response, that wouldn't have gone well :P
20:03 Joubu       #info Jonathan Druart
20:03 caroline    #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro
20:03 cait        #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_1_August_2018 today's agenda
20:03 cait        please introduce yourself with #info following wahanui's example
20:03 wahanui     #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
20:03 cait        #topic Introductions
20:03 huginn      The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_1_august_2018'
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20:03 huginn      Meeting started Wed Aug  1 20:03:10 2018 UTC.  The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:03 cait        #startmeeting General IRC meeting 1 August 2018
20:02 Joubu       :D
20:02 Joubu       cait++
20:02 cait        i can do it if noone else wants to
20:02 cait        heh
20:02 wahanui     caroline: what?
20:02 caroline    wahanui will chair, can't wait to see how that will go
20:01 cait        as kidclamp is on vacatoin, who will chair? :)
20:01 * wahanui   rides the waves|
20:01 davidnind   waves...
20:00 bag         ha
20:00 caroline    Nz is waking up! :)
19:59 * cait      waves at davidnind
19:55 cait        see pm for the screenshot
19:55 cait        patron edit
19:54 cait        get ready everyone!
19:54 Joubu       cait: on which page do you have the "unlock in the wrong spot" problem?
19:54 cait        5 minutes to meeting
19:54 cait        thx :)
19:53 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7547 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Printing a sorted cart
19:53 cait        bug 7547
19:53 Joubu       I commented on the bug
19:53 Joubu       cait ^
19:53 huginn      Joubu: The operation succeeded.
19:53 Joubu       @later tell tcohen it's bug 7547
19:52 cait        is that the error you were talking about to fix separately?
19:52 cait        with and without hte patches
19:50 cait        scroll down, resize window, scroll back up - the toolbar 'unlocks' in the wrong spot
19:49 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21139 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , The floating toolbars have some issues
19:49 cait        Joubu: something's wrong with the toolbar for me on bug 21139
19:47 cait        17.11 doesn't show it
19:45 cait        [off] https://next.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=5&query_desc=kw%2Cwrdl%3A%20der
19:45 cait        that's why i was surprised
19:45 cait        we just tested the dev in 17.11
19:45 Joubu       hum yes, looks buggy too
19:43 cait        Joubu: yes, but i think we didn't show the config option
19:40 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16759 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Make OPAC holdings table configurable
19:40 Joubu       cait:     Bug 16759: Make OPAC holdings table configurable
19:39 huginn      cait: The operation succeeded.
19:39 cait        @later tell tcohen should column visibility show in the opac items table?
19:26 oleonard    Bye #koha
19:25 cait        Joubu++
19:25 cait        thx for explaining!
19:25 cait        got you
19:25 cait        my $borr = $patron->unblessed;
19:24 cait        ah
19:23 Joubu       173                     borrower          => $borr,
19:23 Joubu       and the $borrower hash which contains the extra info comes from:
19:23 Joubu       ok sorry, so the Koha::Patron is logged_in_user (sent from C4::Auth)
19:22 cait        none is in opac-user
19:22 cait        s
19:22 cait        i only got 3 hit
19:21 Joubu       you will find it
19:21 cait        becuase you remove -    borrower                 => scalar Koha::Patrons->find($borrowernumber),
19:21 Joubu       `git grep 'scalar Koha::Patrons'`
19:20 wahanui     the borrower is restricted, borrower has no restrictions.
19:20 cait        the borrower
19:20 cait        just not spotting yet wher eit came from
19:20 Joubu       all the logic code in opac-user.pl should be removed, but it's out of the scope
19:19 Joubu       yes it's bad, but we are in transition ;)
19:19 Joubu       it is usually what is done so far
19:19 Joubu       I changed borrower with patron (because it's a Koha::Patron), then I changed USER... with borrower (because it's a hash)
19:19 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Replace BORROWER_INFO and USER_INFO with logged_in_user
19:18 cait        sorry bug 21137
19:17 cait        why  [% IF ( borrower.warndeparture ) %] in opac-user.pl?
19:17 cait        looking at the USER.. patches
19:16 Joubu       yes
19:15 cait        Joubu: still around?
19:08 cait        this is so good after today's heat
19:08 tuxayo      Enjoy!
19:08 tuxayo      Thunderstorms, Thunderstorms and scattered thunderstorms
19:07 cait        RAIN!
19:07 huginn      cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Rain :: 74F/23C | Wind Chill: 74F/23C | Wednesday: Thunderstorms. Lows overnight in the mid 60s. Wednesday Night: Thunderstorms likely this evening. Then the chance of scattered thunderstorms overnight. Low 64F. Winds N at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 100%.
19:07 cait        @wunder Konstanz
19:05 tuxayo      Joubu: thanks!
18:57 Joubu       oleonard: you can recreate the issue now ;)
18:57 * Joubu     is installing debian 9 on oleonard's laptop
18:56 Joubu       and copy the exact error in the description
18:55 Joubu       choose between "500" or "internal server error" (synonym)
18:47 * tuxayo    sent a long message: tuxayo_2018-08-01_18:47:26.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/tVDUsSPDMUURMzQEJaayoEJD>
18:27 oleonard    Fine with me.
18:27 Joubu       oleonard: 21139 - I do now recreate, the behavior existed prior to the patches. I am not sure how hard it would be to fix it, I suggest to fix it separately :)
18:26 wahanui     hmmm... Apparently is vitally important to librarians
18:26 oleonard    Apparently
18:24 Joubu       oleonard: any records?
18:22 oleonard    With and without
18:20 Joubu       without order placed on the record?
18:19 oleonard    Not much...as soon as I tried to view detail.pl I got the error.
18:18 Joubu       the patches are up to date, what did you test exactly?
18:17 oleonard    And about 20366, I tested both with the patches and then the remote branch when I worried the patches on the bug weren't up to date.
18:16 tuxayo      Joubu: thanks. My difficulty is to convert some symbols to something searchable on the web. Does anyone know something that helps about that? (maybe there aren't that many operators to learn?
18:16 Joubu       oleonard: ha! I was not testing on this view
18:15 oleonard    (re: 21139)
18:15 oleonard    Joubu: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15331473066753
18:15 Joubu       tuxayo: ask google for the "diamond operator"
18:15 tuxayo      Indeed that's the case. Thanks :)
18:14 Joubu       tuxayo: yes, should be used with a while, or my @lines = <$fh>
18:14 Joubu       erk
18:14 Joubu       tuxayo: yes, should be used with a while, or my @lines = <$f
18:13 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20366 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , More information about orders linked to subscriptions on "Acquisition details" tab
18:13 Joubu       oleonard: about bug 20366, did you test the remote branch or the patches on the bug? I do not recreate this one either
18:09 tuxayo      *line
18:09 tuxayo      is <$foobar> and operation which is a function which gets a ligne from a file handler?
18:09 tuxayo      Question about this Perl snippet `my $content=<$filefh>`
18:02 Joubu       oleonard: I thought I understood it, but cannot recreate.
17:47 cait        hope Joubu understands that, because I can't follow :)
17:34 oleonard    I'm not sure if that's easy to handle or not.
17:33 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21139 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The floating toolbars have some issues
17:33 oleonard    Joubu: Bug 21139 handles browser width fine as long as the y-axis position of the toolbar isn't affected by the reflow of other elements on the page
17:31 oleonard    Yes
17:30 cait        so I understand it's ok to change :)
17:30 cait        ah
17:29 oleonard    It's not like other plugins which are maintained independently of Koha.
17:26 cait        sorry, don't understand
17:25 cait        can you rephrase that?
17:24 oleonard    It's not an independently-maintained plugin
17:24 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18305 major, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, CLOSED FIXED, jquery.fixFloat.js breaks advanced MARC editor for some browsers
17:24 cait        but it looks like we already changed it in the past, bug 18305 for example
17:23 cait        oleonard: the bug i am looking at modifies /lib/jquery/plugins/jquery.fixFloat.js
17:22 cait        hm should we change the plugin code?
16:59 jenkins     Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #29: FIXED in 21 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/29/
16:59 wahanui     o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
16:59 jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
16:47 cait        so if signed off could do both together :)
16:47 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21099 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Floating toolbars reposition too late
16:47 cait        bug 21099
16:46 cait        working on the one it depends on right now
16:23 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Switch single-column templates to Bootstrap grid: Cataloging
16:23 Joubu       it will fix the problem you faced on bug 20044 when resizing the window
16:22 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21139 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The floating toolbars have some issues
16:22 Joubu       oleonard: bug 21139
16:15 cait        oleonard++ :)
15:59 jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #20: FIXED in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/20/
15:59 wahanui     o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
15:59 jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
15:53 tcohen      Joubu++
15:53 Joubu       tcohen: ^ it did the job ;)
15:51 jenkins     Project Koha_Master_U18 build #19: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/19/
15:50 jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D9 build #519: FIXED in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/519/
15:50 wahanui     o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
15:50 jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
15:28 tuxayo      thanks :)
15:27 cait        i'd file 2
15:27 tuxayo      Kinda linked and kinda independent
15:27 tuxayo      Should I create one bugzilla for {the non-handling of BOM in a tool} and for {error when an itemnumber is invalid is the said tool} ?
15:22 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 21133: Fix use statements order <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce96080f3005be5a63c9f2cab8d4b6c81e9b5b27>
15:12 reiveune    bye
15:07 cait        i will hold out to qa :)
15:07 oleonard    If no one else gets to it first cait
15:07 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Replace BORROWER_INFO and USER_INFO with logged_in_user
15:07 cait        oleonard: are you going to sign off on bug 21137?
15:03 cait        hm ok i think that worked
15:03 cait        if i accidentally deleted my master branch.. how woudl i get it back?
14:39 * tuxayo    hopes that the file openning code can easily be changed to handle BOM
14:39 tuxayo      So the problem is the non-handling of BOM *and* the ugly error when an itemnumber doesn't match an existing item.
14:38 tuxayo      He he, when I throw the same file in as a barcode list, I get "3131" as a first char.
14:33 tuxayo      Anyway, has anyone heard about BOM (Byte Order Mark) issues? Batch item modification tool can't parse an item number list that starts with a BOM.
14:30 tuxayo      \o/
14:29 Joubu       outch
14:29 huginn      tuxayo: Marseille, France :: Clear :: 97F/36C | Heat Index: 101F/38C | Wednesday: Clear. Lows overnight in the mid 70s. Wednesday Night: Clear skies. Low 76F. Winds WNW at 5 to 10 mph.
14:29 tuxayo      @wunder Marseille
14:29 Joubu       feel like it's 5°C!
14:29 huginn      Joubu: Buenos Aires, Argentina :: Partly Cloudy :: 48F/9C | Wednesday: Mainly sunny. High 51F. Winds NNE at 5 to 10 mph. Wednesday Night: A clear sky. Low 42F. Winds light and variable.
14:28 Joubu       @wunder Buenos Aires
14:28 * cait      is dying
14:28 huginn      cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Partly Cloudy :: 95F/35C | Wind Chill: 95F/35C | Heat Index: 95F/35C | Wednesday: Scattered thunderstorms possible. Lows overnight in the mid 60s. Wednesday Night: Scattered showers and thunderstorms. Low 66F. Winds N at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60%.
14:28 cait        @wunder Konstanz
14:24 cait        lol
14:23 oleonard    We should have taken more pictures at the last ceremony: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15331333447778
14:21 cait        hm general meeting tonight
14:20 cait        oleonard++
14:19 cait        lol
14:19 oleonard    cait: I got a great deal on candles from this place that handles surplus wedding supplies.
14:19 cait        maybe we shoudl switch to black superlibrarian capes :)
14:19 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=569 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Searches need 'browse' option
14:19 caroline    The oldest opened bug is bug 569 ^
14:18 cait        oleonard: what about the candles and stuff?
14:18 cait        caroline: you are definitely up :D
14:17 caroline    Joubu: eesh, I might not be able to do that though!
14:17 oleonard    Joubu I'm having a hard time getting enough black robes
14:16 caroline    oleonard: ooh! I didn't know I was up for the inner circle ;)
14:16 Joubu       patch the oldest opened bug?
14:16 Joubu       oleonard: what is the hazing processing this year? You are in charge of it, right?
14:15 cait        uncommenting is kind of scheduling... i guess?
14:15 Joubu       yep, or set it up
14:15 cait        schedule might be good
14:14 Joubu       caroline: usually the crontab already contain the list of all the cronjobs, but commented. So maybe the sys admin will jus need to uncomment it (?)
14:14 oleonard    caroline: Tell him you won't be accepted into the inner circle until you can appear in person for the hazing process.
14:12 Joubu       tell him your presence is inestimable for the community
14:12 caroline    schedule it?
14:12 caroline    What would be the verb to go with a cron job? In the sentence "Ask your system administrator to..." run it? add it? add it to you crontab?
14:09 cait        yay!
14:09 caroline    btw, Eric asked me to check how much it would cost to fly to Portland! :D
14:09 cait        i have some appointments friday, so migtht not be here, but always happy to help if you get stuck
14:08 cait        :)
14:08 caroline    I would have to commit and everything? >_< Maybe I'll try that on Friday
14:08 cait        not too hard, if you want to give it a go
14:07 cait        the descriptions are int he .pref files
14:07 caroline    And I'll add it to bugzilla (unfortunately, I don't know how to add those descriptions, otherwise, I would do it myself...)
14:06 caroline    I could maybe make a list of all the sysprefs based on the cronjobs in the manual
14:05 cait        helpful
14:05 cait        caroline: i thnk we have it for some, i don#t think it would be overkill
14:05 caroline    Would it be overkill do you think to add a note next to system preferences that require a cron? Like AutoResumeSuspendedHolds, we could write something like "Note: This requires the auto_unsuspend_hold.pl cronjob. Ask your system administrator to add it."
14:04 cait        oleonard: i think we use it for father#s name (russian) in some libraries
13:56 tcohen      it seems to be a catmandu issue, not properly translating 0/1 into valid JSON boolean
13:55 tcohen      there's a problem in ES5.6 (current 5.x stable) regarding booleans, have you noticed it?
13:55 tcohen      alex_a: around?
13:54 oleonard    I guess it's easier to leave it out and wait for someone to complain (which they haven't done yet)
13:53 oleonard    yeah I'm not sure if some libraries use it in a way that it's for staff eyes only.
13:47 Joubu       it's not displayed much at the OPAC
13:46 Joubu       oleonard: yes maybe
13:43 oleonard    Joubu: I started working on that too, and was planning to put 'othernames' into patron-title.inc. Do you think we shouldn't?
13:35 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19291 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Make breadcrumbs for OPAC search history consistent with other patron account pages
13:35 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Replace BORROWER_INFO and USER_INFO with logged_in_user
13:35 Joubu       oleonard, cait: I have submitted a patch on bug 21137. It is what I had in mind on bug 19291
13:35 cait        thx!
13:34 oleonard    cait: Done.
13:25 cait        i can do qa in a bit
13:25 cait        oleonard: can you sign off?
13:00 Joubu       thanks oleonard
12:52 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21136 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, NEW , Error "No property select_city for Koha::Patron" when saving patron record
12:52 oleonard    Bug 21136
12:44 oleonard    Yes
12:44 Joubu       oleonard: now I get it. Could you report and assign it to me?
12:43 Joubu       well, I do not have cities defined
12:42 Joubu       Are you on master? I do not recreate it
12:41 Joubu       oleonard: nope
12:40 oleonard    Is this a known error when editing patrons? "No property select_city for Koha::Patron at /usr/share/perl5/Exception/Class/Base.pm line 73"
12:30 saa         is this anything to do with non exisiting borrowers
12:29 saa         let me check and comeback
12:21 Joubu       and see if it's the same parameters passed (I am expecting a borrowernumber here)
12:20 Joubu       search for a hit to circulation.pl at 17:03:02, patronimage.pl at 17:05:03 then ysearch.pl at 17:18:02
12:19 Joubu       in the access logs you should have the parameters passed to the script
12:19 Joubu       try to compare these entries with the access logs
12:18 saa         intranet-error.log
12:17 Joubu       saa: which log file is that?
12:13 saa         but if u see todays log it is thre after 10 min
12:12 saa         earlier it was very often hence we thought we would upgrade and see
12:10 Joubu       how often do you get it?
12:08 saa         since it was throwing this error on 16.11 we just upgraded to 17.11 but still same error is coming
12:08 oleonard    saa: Is this a new installation? Or did you just upgrade?
12:07 saa         i have pasted intranet log
12:07 pastebot    "saa" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Error has occured Error 500" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/44
12:05 saa         ok
12:05 saa         An internal link in the client is broken and the page does not exist.
12:05 oleonard    saa: You have to choose #koha as the channel on the paste page so that we all get a link to it.
12:05 saa         actually error is "error has ocurred error 500! this message may have been caused by any of the following reasons: !You made use of an external link to an item that is no longer available. You followed an outdated link. from a search engine or bookmark. You tried to access a page that needs authentication.
12:03 saa         i have pasted intranet log
11:54 Joubu       if you get a 500 there is a more explicit message somewhere in your Koha log files
11:53 oleonard    saa: Perhaps if you paste the last few lines of the error log to http://paste.koha-community.org it will be more clear what the problem is.
11:47 saa         i am getting error 500 and i wish to know where should i change permissions as chmod 755
11:46 * andreashm waves
11:46 cait        hi #koha
11:46 Joubu       saa: something in the logs?
11:46 Joubu       hi #koha
11:44 oleonard    Hi #koha
11:40 saa         where should i give permissions
11:40 saa         i need to know how to sort out in koha
11:40 saa         are u thr
11:40 saa         <tuxayo> saa: some guess: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22307610/end-of-script-output-before-headers-error-in-apache#34255804
10:57 * andreashm waves
09:28 mtj         saa:  what url generates the 500 error? what koha verson?
07:38 magnuse     ashimema++
07:36 * ashimema  is on community catch up today.. 18.05.x patching inbound ;)
06:54 tuxayo      saa: some guess: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22307610/end-of-script-output-before-headers-error-in-apache#34255804
06:53 tuxayo      hi #koha o/
06:45 wahanui     privet, matts
06:45 matts       hello
06:42 alex_a      bonjour
06:35 saa         many times our koha screen throws error "an error has occurred! Error 500" [11:54] <saa> after checking intranet log it says End of script output before header
06:33 reiveune    hello
06:25 saa         what could be wrong and how to sort it out
06:25 saa         after checking intranet log it says End of script output before header
06:25 saa         many times our koha screen throws error "an error has occurred! Error 500"
06:23 magnuse     yay, lots of irmas! :-)
06:23 * magnuse   waves