Time Nick Message 21:58 caroline bye #koha! See you tomorrow! 20:15 cait happy vacation1 20:15 cait missed oleonard 20:15 cait ooh 20:12 oleonard I'm off until the 16th, so everyone have fun signing off on all my patches while I'm gone! 19:19 ashimema :) 19:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21034 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Re-indent circulation.tt 19:18 oleonard whoops, Bug 21034 19:17 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20134 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Remove /api/v1/app.pl from the generated URLs 19:17 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20520 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Re-indent moremember.tt 19:17 oleonard-away My success with Bug 20520 has only emboldened me. Look ye on Bug 20134 and despair! 15:41 reiveune bye 14:59 marcelr bye #koha 14:59 marcelr htg 14:19 oleonard Thanks for taking a look marcelr 14:19 eythian tcohen: I learnt today that Argentina has a Welsh-speaking population. 14:16 marcelr somehow it feels funny to put him inside but it works 14:16 marcelr oleonard: at first i did not even see the subtle difference on 20729 14:15 huginn Joubu: Buenos Aires, Argentina :: Clear :: 45F/7C | Wind Chill: 41F/5C | Tuesday: Partly cloudy. High 49F. Winds SE at 5 to 10 mph. Tuesday Night: Cloudy skies. Low 44F. Winds ESE at 5 to 10 mph. 14:15 Joubu @wunder Buenos Aires, Argentina 14:15 Joubu it's freezing here as well 14:10 tcohen snow tennis 14:10 marcelr Winter Time Fun ? 14:10 marcelr winter sport 14:09 tcohen Joubu: Cecilia says it is snowing WTF 14:06 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20729 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Update style of datepickers 14:06 oleonard I would like to get more opinions on Bug 20729 14:02 alex_a To test 14:02 huginn Bug 21032: major, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , Refining a search made on a specific index fail 14:02 alex_a nlegrand, just for you: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21032 13:55 Joubu :-/ 13:53 tcohen hahaha 13:53 tcohen Joubu: we are ready to welcome you in Cordoba, with our great weather 13:53 huginn tcohen: Cordoba, Argentina :: Mostly Cloudy :: 40F/4C | Tuesday: A shower or two around the area early, then partly cloudy during the afternoon. High near 50F. Winds E at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30%. Tuesday Night: Some clouds. Low 32F. Winds NNE at 5 to 10 mph. 13:53 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 13:52 huginn oleonard: Athens, OH :: Clear :: 78F/25C | Tuesday: A mix of clouds and sun during the morning will give way to cloudy skies this afternoon. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. High 91F. Winds light and variable. Tuesday Night: Partly cloudy skies. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. Low 71F. Winds light and variable. 13:52 oleonard @wunder 45701 13:49 marcelr hi tcohen 13:45 tcohen morning 13:35 ashimema i bet adding dbic helpers is frowned upon isn't it... I want to add correlate subquery support 13:18 chris_n oleonard: ;) 13:14 caroline Oh yeah, I remember seeing the explanation on the wiki https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Using_the_Patron_Card_Creator 13:13 oleonard chris_n++ 13:13 oleonard Oh hey who hasn't met chris_n before? He lurks 11 months out of the year and then POUNCES when someone has a question about labels or patron cards 13:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8604 major, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Patron cards made for patrons which don't have patron images use preceding card's image 13:08 chris_n cait: Could you post the results of the query I added to bug 8604, please? 13:08 oleonard I too would like to know what's happening. What's up. What's going on. What's new. 13:07 caroline yes, eastern time 13:07 marcelr it seems to be 9 in the us 13:07 caroline okay lol! 13:07 marcelr nothing really 13:06 caroline marcelr: I don't know. What is happening? Did I come in in the middle of a meeting? 13:06 calire o/ 13:05 marcelr whats happenign here 13:05 marcelr and kidclamp :) 13:05 kidclamp hi all 13:05 marcelr and calire re ! 13:05 calire hi #koha 13:05 marcelr and hi caroline 13:04 caroline Good morning! 13:04 marcelr hi Joubu 13:04 Joubu hi #koha 12:52 ashimema we set datetime_undef_if_invalid in the result classes but we don't actually import InflateColumn::DateTime ... 12:51 ashimema am i missing something somewhere here.. 12:50 ashimema Ooh.. looks like we don't use InflateColumn anywhere :'( 12:47 ashimema do we inflate/deflate DateTimes in the same was as dbic? 12:46 ashimema any Koha::Object pros here.. 12:36 ashimema Just delete them from the list when you do the deletion 12:31 marcelr eythian: you need a list of delete requests 12:31 eythian "here's a list of all the people who don't want their names put into lists" 12:31 marcelr it is a request to delete (unsubscribe) 12:30 marcelr this still needs attention on another report 12:30 eythian that feels problematic 12:30 oleonard marcelr, I took a look at your GDPR patch yesterday and had a question -- is there (or is there going to be) a way for staff to see who has declined consent? 12:29 * LeeJ waves 12:26 marcelr oleonard++ # SO 12:26 marcelr hi oleonard 12:24 oleonard Hi all 12:20 ashimema after singing dbics praises earlier I just found a fringe case bug in it :) 12:19 marcelr hi #koha 10:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20709 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Update GERMAN MARC frameworks to Updates 23-26 (Nov 2016, May and Apr 2018) 10:51 jenkins * katrin.fischer: Bug 20709: (follow-up) Update GERMAN MARC frameworks to Update 26 (April 10:51 jenkins * katrin.fischer: Bug 20709: Update GERMAN MARC frameworks to Updates 23+24+25 (Nov 2016, 10:51 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #18: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/18/ 10:39 ashimema though U18 still needs a little work 10:39 * ashimema likes jenkins being happy 10:38 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20709 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Update GERMAN MARC frameworks to Updates 23-26 (Nov 2016, May and Apr 2018) 10:38 jenkins * katrin.fischer: Bug 20709: (follow-up) Update GERMAN MARC frameworks to Update 26 (April 10:38 jenkins * katrin.fischer: Bug 20709: Update GERMAN MARC frameworks to Updates 23+24+25 (Nov 2016, 10:38 jenkins * katrin.fischer: Bug 19835: (follow-up) Correct formatting in a few places 10:38 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19835 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Stable , Update MARC frameworks to Updates 23+24+25 (Nov 2016, May and Dec 2017) 10:38 jenkins * gonzalez: Bug 19835: Fix MARC21 frameworks revision date 10:38 jenkins * gonzalez: Bug 19835: Fix repeatability on MARC21 subfields 10:38 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20793 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Don't show holds link in result list when staff user doesn't have place_holds permission 10:38 jenkins * gonzalez: Bug 19835: Update MARC frameworks to Updates 23+24+25 (Nov 2016, May and 10:38 jenkins * oleonard: Bug 20793: (follow-up) Add style to the non-link hold count on detail 10:38 jenkins * katrin.fischer: Bug 20793: Don't show a holds link in staff for users without permission 10:38 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #21: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/21/ 10:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20709 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Update GERMAN MARC frameworks to Updates 23-26 (Nov 2016, May and Apr 2018) 10:32 jenkins * katrin.fischer: Bug 20709: (follow-up) Update GERMAN MARC frameworks to Update 26 (April 10:32 jenkins * katrin.fischer: Bug 20709: Update GERMAN MARC frameworks to Updates 23+24+25 (Nov 2016, 10:32 jenkins * katrin.fischer: Bug 19835: (follow-up) Correct formatting in a few places 10:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19835 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Stable , Update MARC frameworks to Updates 23+24+25 (Nov 2016, May and Dec 2017) 10:32 jenkins * gonzalez: Bug 19835: Fix MARC21 frameworks revision date 10:32 jenkins * gonzalez: Bug 19835: Fix repeatability on MARC21 subfields 10:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20793 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Don't show holds link in result list when staff user doesn't have place_holds permission 10:32 jenkins * gonzalez: Bug 19835: Update MARC frameworks to Updates 23+24+25 (Nov 2016, May and 10:32 jenkins * oleonard: Bug 20793: (follow-up) Add style to the non-link hold count on detail 10:32 jenkins * katrin.fischer: Bug 20793: Don't show a holds link in staff for users without permission 10:32 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #22: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/22/ 10:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19835 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Stable , Update MARC frameworks to Updates 23+24+25 (Nov 2016, May and Dec 2017) 10:26 jenkins * katrin.fischer: Bug 19835: (follow-up) Correct formatting in a few places 10:26 jenkins * gonzalez: Bug 19835: Fix MARC21 frameworks revision date 10:26 jenkins * gonzalez: Bug 19835: Fix repeatability on MARC21 subfields 10:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20793 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Don't show holds link in result list when staff user doesn't have place_holds permission 10:26 jenkins * gonzalez: Bug 19835: Update MARC frameworks to Updates 23+24+25 (Nov 2016, May and 10:26 jenkins * oleonard: Bug 20793: (follow-up) Add style to the non-link hold count on detail 10:26 jenkins * katrin.fischer: Bug 20793: Don't show a holds link in staff for users without permission 10:26 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #17: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/17/ 09:46 cait someone happen to know how to use workbench with kohadevbox? 09:38 cait ah right... it's empty... I will come back later when I've found my head 09:38 cait can't get the file to open with marcedit :( 09:37 cait hm could someone test exporting authorities from 17.11 or higher? 09:25 ashimema I think the general install base out there is pretty old ;) 09:24 cait i think we didn something with the crons 09:24 cait broken import sounds quite bad 09:24 ashimema not sure whose been converting command line scripts to work properly recently.. I'm sure someone has 09:24 cait hm already major, wonder why i didn't spot it 09:23 ashimema rather than importing the modules required 09:23 ashimema yes.. but I'm not sure it's the right fix.. he just adds full subroutine paths 09:23 eythian cait: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44385018 (bet he's feeling abit silly now though.) 09:23 ashimema it's on my todo list.. but I haven't had a moment to look at it yet myself 09:23 cait does he have a fix? 09:22 ashimema Ian is our migrations man.. he's tested it lots 09:22 cait have you tested it yourself? 09:22 ashimema ;) 09:22 cait hm no items for staged... but of course for migration you'd need it 09:21 cait you got me there 09:21 ashimema which I thought you used for union catalogue syncing still? 09:21 cait eek 09:21 cait working right now on fixing an authority import script with changes done to the API (we do weird things there, our fault) 09:21 ashimema it also affect the stage + commit 09:21 cait we plan an update from 16.11 to 17.11 atm 09:21 cait hm maybe i should, although we are only using this for migrations 09:20 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19687 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Recent upgrade to 17.05.04.000 bulkmarcimport started to fail 09:20 ashimema wondering if you're looking at bug 19687 at all 09:20 ashimema you guys aren't on 17.05 yet are you cait? 09:17 ashimema reading his submissions is on my todolist 09:17 ashimema :) 09:17 cait i think tcohen was investigating fixing credits 09:15 * ashimema adds that to the tcohen wishlist 09:15 ashimema I wish one could more easily associate a credit with a debit.. that way an amendment could be really clearly done 09:15 ashimema writeoff/credit ammendment is the most trackable way of doing it. 09:14 ashimema indeed.. 09:12 cait yeah but there should be a suggested workflow maybe? 09:12 ashimema tcohen has been working most closely with that area of late 09:11 ashimema hmm.. that may well be deliberate 09:11 cait do we have something planned to change that? is there something else you can do that is not a write off? 09:11 cait it seems ther is no optionto delete or update it 09:11 cait if you have added a wrong manual fine 09:10 cait maybe someone else knows 09:10 cait kidclamp: ping 09:10 * ashimema has been trying to get a shared slack running to catch bywater for a while now 09:09 cait oh 09:09 ashimema at least that's my experience of late 09:09 ashimema you'll need to get someone at bywater to poke him.. he no longer turns his irc on cait 09:05 cait khall: around? 08:20 ashimema I like dbic.. it is incredibly powerful and has a fairly reasonably learning curve 08:19 ashimema Koha::Objects can't really say the same.. in the grand shceme of things it's a small community with few people that fully understand the code.. 08:19 ashimema it has it's flaws.. but they're well known and understood and there's a massive community around dbic to ask questions.. 08:15 tuxayo ashimema: dbic looks powerful :) 08:13 ashimema so thos are three things that bug me of late ;) 08:13 ashimema also.. chaining searches seems to not work as well as it does in all my dbic only code elsewhere. 08:13 ashimema also.. by throwing away ->as_query all over the place you actually make query construction considerably harder 08:12 ashimema when it could have simply been `->resultset()->search()->column_to_sum->sum;` 08:11 ashimema but in this aprticular case it was reading some code that got a resultset, iterated through the resultset adding up values 08:11 ashimema well you can now add methods to dbic generated classes (why are we still autogenerating I will never understand).. 08:10 tuxayo Is it still not possible to add custom methods to dbic generated classes? (thus 25 lines instead of 2) 08:10 tuxayo > I'm not aloud to 08:10 tuxayo Thanks, interesting read :) 08:08 * ashimema is just a tad annoyed at reading code and thinking.. I could do with 25 lines in 2 lines and my 2 lines would be more performant.. crap.. I'm not aloud to. 08:07 * ashimema switches out of history lesson/rant mode 08:07 ashimema I constantly find koha code where we've worked really hard to overcome a problem that was overcome a nice way long ago in a library we already use but didn't learn how to use fully and properly. 08:06 ashimema Issue is.. we adopt new technologies but very few people take the time to learn how to use them properly and fully leverage them.. dbic is a prime case.. 08:05 ashimema we then got annoyed with not being able to add methods as required to dbic classes that someone came up with objects.. which are basically crippled dbic classes built on top of dbic classes. 08:05 ashimema we added dbic.. then there was a big hoo ha over whether we should allow adding custom methods to dbic generated classes which resulted in the answer 'no' (so, we in fact decided against the recommendation of the dbic community.. the whole idea is dbic gives you a starting place which you build on by adding customer methods and resultset classes ontop of the result classes).. 08:03 tuxayo ashimema: Is it the pre-dbic way of doing it or is that yet another way? 08:01 ashimema so it's not really historical as such as it's not that old a decision 08:01 ashimema I argued against them in the first place to be honest 08:01 tuxayo Same answer :P 08:00 ashimema give me back proper dbic any day of the week.. I've tried realyl hard to understand why we chose the Koha::Object route and I just can't see it.. dbic objects have had years to mature.. why not stand on the shoulders of giants.. 08:00 tuxayo ashimema josef_moravec ↑ 08:00 tuxayo "Historical reasons" is the answer for any question like that. 07:58 josef_moravec ashimema: I was just surprised by this yesterday... 07:58 ashimema goodbye `as_query`, `sum`, `max`, `min`, `all`, `first`, `min_rs`, `max_rs`, `sum_rs`, `func` ! 07:54 ashimema ack... why oh why do we not return a dbic ResultsetColumn and instead shortcircuit it to a far less usful array of values :'( 06:50 alex_a bonjour 06:46 reiveune hello 06:18 * andreashm waves 05:22 ashimema Mornin' #koha 05:19 fridolin hi everybody