Time Nick Message 21:34 ashimema Nighty night #koha 21:33 magnuse g'night #koha! 21:32 rangi ill take a look 21:32 rangi yeah 21:32 cait but there it's happening inside the plugin 21:32 rangi cool 21:32 cait it should be possible it hink so too 21:31 cait but that's not quite the same 21:31 rangi im pretty sure I can write it with js, but was wondering if someone had already done something 21:31 cait all i can think of is the way some of the 00x plugins work 21:31 rangi what im talking about is you put a topic, then a subtopic, and that subtopic list changes based on the topic you picked 21:31 cait bye caroline:) 21:31 magnuse have fun caroline 21:30 rangi good night caroline 21:30 caroline Well, I'm off to my nephew's 17th birthday bbq (17 already, i feel so old). Good night everyone! 21:30 rangi has anyone done a plugin thingy for the cataloguing interface, that when you change a dropdown on one subfield, it changes the values in another drop down 21:30 * magnuse does not have any customers north of the arctic circle yet, but is working on it 21:30 cait proven to work in the cold 21:30 cait a nice slogan 21:30 cait hehe 21:30 rangi more mundane question 21:29 rangi and you artic circle folks :) 21:29 rangi by public libraries in nunavut ;) 21:28 rangi it's been proven to work in the cold 21:28 magnuse no reason for them not to use it! :-) 21:28 rangi so maybe in the future one will use Koha :) 21:27 rangi there are 2 libraries there 21:27 * magnuse would want to go to kohacon in antarctica 21:27 caroline No Koha libraries there so far, I guess 21:27 rangi :) 21:27 rangi we've done all the continents except antartica 21:26 magnuse i think you nailed it the first time :-) 21:26 rangi i forget how to spell it 21:26 rangi oceanania ? i 21:26 cait yah :) 21:25 rangi its been 10 years since oceania :) 21:25 magnuse and i hope we all agree that nz can host in 2020 if they want to :-) 21:25 rangi means it moves around the world more 21:25 rangi usa now, next earliest time in north american is 2021 21:25 caroline ok! 21:25 rangi yep 21:25 magnuse so if europe gets 2019, the next time it can be in europe is 2022 21:24 rangi greece 2016 means europe 2019 is ok 21:24 rangi not on the same continent within 3 21:23 caroline How does the rotation work? One year per continent? 21:23 magnuse and 2022 if sweden gets 2019 21:23 magnuse so 2021 at the earliest 21:22 magnuse curently, the date for that is sometime in 2020 21:22 magnuse norway has mostly been me talking about how cool it would be to have kohacon in the new library in oslo sometime after they open, i think 21:17 ashimema Wasn't there already also talk from Ireland and Norway for proposals for next conf 21:16 ashimema Kohacon19 plans already aye.. Blimey 21:16 ashimema cait++ for removing misc 21:14 andreashm ok, now of to bed. bye #koha 21:13 magnuse andreashm++ 21:12 magnuse w00t! 21:06 rangi yay! 21:04 andreashm So, a page is up: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon19_Proposals 20:40 * andreashm goes over to the wiki to add a page 20:38 rangi :) 20:38 andreashm second is on me. 20:38 andreashm rangi: looking forward to that too! 20:38 rangi excellent, first beer (or beverage of your choice) is on me 20:38 andreashm (KohaCon, not the grants) 20:37 andreashm lots of Swedes coming to Portland this year too. The Swedish User Group has travel grants. looking forward to it! 20:37 rangi heh 20:37 * andreashm puts both hands up 20:36 caroline cool! I'll start saving $$ :) 20:36 cait being the first to put a hand up is not a bad thing :) 20:36 andreashm caroline: we hope so. =) 20:36 rangi maybe :) 20:36 caroline kohacon19 is going to be in Sweden? 20:35 rangi and put kohacon19 on the agenda for next irc meeting so that people can start discussing timelines (maybe note prefer voting in august or something) 20:35 andreashm rangi: cool. that much we can do, after all. =) 20:35 rangi yep, so id do a page, with "Sweden" "details to come" 20:35 andreashm we will, perhaps I should write 20:34 andreashm we are 20:34 rangi indicating that you're going to pull one together is a good idea tho 20:34 rangi yep 20:34 andreashm but there need to be some time to put together a proposal too. 20:34 rangi andreashm: yeah, but just putting up a bit of a placeholder with your names in .. is a good start 20:34 andreashm rangi: yeah, of course. 20:34 cait night LeeJ 20:33 cait np :) 20:33 wahanui goodnight LeeJ. You'll be back. 20:33 LeeJ night all! 20:33 rangi you kinda want it decided with as much time to give people chance to start getting funding etc 20:33 andreashm Just talking for ourselves of course. =) 20:33 LeeJ cait: I'll look tomorrow...I need to head out while there's a break in the weather 20:33 andreashm (GDPR and all) 20:33 * andreashm would prefer to have it after summer. lots of work for the end of the semester 20:32 andreashm oh, mid january. that was early. 20:32 rangi the longer people have, the more people can come etc 20:32 rangi and put it on the agenda for the next meeting 20:32 rangi copy that page and start a kohacon19_proposals one 20:31 rangi https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon18_Proposals 20:31 wahanui it has been said that hehe is that a bad thing or a good thing? ;-) 20:31 andreashm hehe... 20:31 rangi its already winter! :) 20:31 * andreashm was under the impression it would be for the fall. for some reason 20:31 rangi what i would do 20:31 rangi andreashm: i reckon now! 20:30 andreashm (going back to the KohaCon discussion) 20:30 andreashm rangi: is the time for 2019 proposals soon? 20:30 LeeJ I'm adding a new Closed status now 20:30 cait I was looking for that but didn't spot it 20:29 caroline LeeJ, cait isn't it that you have to manually change the status of the user story? 20:29 LeeJ cait: looking now.. 20:29 rangi :) 20:29 LeeJ I'll talk to people to see if we can submit a proposal for then :) 20:27 LeeJ rangi: :D 20:27 rangi ohhh you are in scranton LeeJ? so probably 2021 next chance for US again :) 20:27 cait documenation housekeeping > break up... 20:26 LeeJ which story were you doing? cleanup? 20:26 cait https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/epics 20:26 cait why does it still show in progress? 20:26 cait now all tasks of my user story are finished 20:26 LeeJ cait: hm? 20:26 cait LeeJ: taiga question 20:26 LeeJ rangi: yay! 20:25 LeeJ cait: merged! :) looks good as usual! 20:25 rangi (20th birthday back home :)) 20:24 rangi 2020 NZ 20:24 rangi speaking of which we need to start proposals for 2019 20:24 cait no more spotted for the moment 20:24 cait ok, fixed link 20:24 rangi i think this one should be pretty biggish 20:23 LeeJ I'd love to try to have my campus host it sometime..just have to figure out how to pitch it to the ones in charge :) 20:22 cait greece where almost 250 i think 20:22 cait depends a bit on the place 20:20 LeeJ how many usually attend kohacon? 20:19 LeeJ haha 20:19 rangi :) 20:19 rangi i wonder who else I can convince to do that 20:19 rangi ahh bummer 20:19 rangi i reckon a live demo of editing it, as part of the main conf, might help show how not tricky it is 20:19 LeeJ rangi: if I could have afforded the trip I would have :( 20:18 rangi LeeJ: will you be doing a talk on documentation stuff at kohacon? 20:18 cait happy that people share my opinion about misc :) 20:18 rangi cait++ 20:18 andreashm cait++ 20:18 LeeJ exactly! 20:18 rangi :) 20:18 rangi misc has no place ever in anything 20:18 rangi yay! 20:17 LeeJ cait has been doing a great job of helping clean up the manual...she got rid of the misc chapter :D 20:17 rangi so yuo can be all reading them on your kindle and what not 20:17 rangi ah yes, it is doing the epubs too 20:17 rangi https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/en/epub/ for example 20:16 rangi im not sure if it is still doing the epubs too 20:16 LeeJ :) 20:16 rangi https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/en/html/ https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/zh_TW/html/ for example 20:15 LeeJ now I know where to look...just wanted to make sure everything looked right 20:15 LeeJ thanks for the info :) 20:15 rangi (but put them in a different place) 20:15 rangi it will do the same on the 17.11 branch too 20:15 rangi for each language in the locales 20:15 LeeJ that's fun to watch lol 20:15 LeeJ gotcha 20:14 rangi https://gitlab.com/koha-community-devs-users/kohadocs/-/jobs/68446564 20:14 rangi the CI tool builds and scps the files 20:14 LeeJ ah 20:14 rangi see there 20:14 rangi automatic 20:14 LeeJ rangi: cron based or automatic? 20:14 rangi https://gitlab.com/koha-community-devs-users/kohadocs/-/jobs 20:13 rangi LeeJ: currently it gets done automatically 20:13 LeeJ rangi: so does the docs HTML get automatically updated? Or does something have to be done manually? 20:12 rangi heya LeeJ 20:11 * LeeJ waves to rangi 20:10 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 20:10 rangi @later tell natec probably me 20:09 cait not sure how that works right now 20:09 cait i noticed that the po files in the repo are not kept up to date 20:09 cait will send an email to bernardo aboutp o files 20:06 LeeJ merged :) 20:05 LeeJ ok :) 20:05 cait i found some links to fix from earlier patches, working on those now, then declaring restructuring finished 20:04 LeeJ lol 20:04 cait LeeJ: it's dead. 20:02 huginn cait: Konstanz, Germany :: :: NoneF/NoneC | Tuesday: Cloudy, periods of rain. Lows overnight in the upper 40s. Tuesday Night: Rain showers early will evolve into a more steady rain overnight. Low 48F. Winds WSW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80%. 20:02 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:51 andreashm =) 19:51 LeeJ andreashm: not as much as I do ;) 19:49 andreashm LeeJ: hope it will get better soon! 19:47 LeeJ it could be bright and sunny one minute and the next it will be storming 19:46 LeeJ our weather is bi-polar 19:46 LeeJ that's not nice :( 19:45 huginn andreashm: Stockholm, Sweden :: Clear :: 64F/18C | Tuesday: Clear. Lows overnight in the upper 40s. Tuesday Night: Clear skies. Low 48F. Winds light and variable. 19:45 andreashm @wunder Stockholm 19:45 LeeJ andreashm: >_> 19:45 huginn LeeJ: Scranton, PA :: Thunderstorm :: 63F/17C | Tuesday: Strong thunderstorms likely. Damaging winds and large hail with some storms. High 86F. Winds WNW at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Tuesday Night: Cloudy. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. Low 54F. Winds N at 5 to 10 mph. 19:45 LeeJ @wunder 18509 19:44 andreashm almost afraid to mention that we have had terrific wether in Sweden the last week. 19:43 andreashm LeeJ: ouch. 19:39 LeeJ :( 19:39 LeeJ caroline: right now it's a torrential downpour outside 19:38 LeeJ cait: looking forward to it :) 19:35 cait will make a patch, you can take a look then :) 19:34 cait hm at least if you want to make it preformatted it needs fixing 19:34 cait line breaks are wrong etc 19:34 cait the formatting has been badly mangled anyway by the conversion of the manual 19:34 cait LeeJ: i will move the isbd to the wiki 19:30 caroline Ugh, I see the storms on the radar. They're thin though, shouldn't last too long 19:28 LeeJ cait: now it's actually merged ;) 19:28 LeeJ caroline: Pennsylvania 19:27 caroline LeeJ: where are you? 19:27 cait https://gitlab.com/koha-community-devs-users/kohadocs/merge_requests/113 19:27 cait hm yeah we had some lightning earlier, but not much happened since 19:27 cait last one is still open :) 19:26 LeeJ FYI my power might go out here...extremely bad thunderstorms and tornado watches :-\ 19:26 LeeJ already merged :) 19:21 cait work for you 19:04 LeeJ yay! 19:04 cait catalouging guides 19:04 cait i think i found a good spot for the xslt material type icons 19:04 cait maybe 19:01 LeeJ cait: perhaps have the defaults moved to the wiki then add a link to the top of the syspref section linking to it? 19:01 cait i feel the item types might fit into a catalouging help thing 19:00 cait i guess to help people misconfiguring theirs 19:00 LeeJ cait: do you know the reasoning behind them being there? 19:00 cait i am still torn about hte usefulness of the pref defaults 18:59 wahanui bye oleopard 18:59 LeeJ bye oleonard 18:59 oleonard see y'all later 18:58 LeeJ cait++ 18:58 LeeJ :D 18:58 cait (with my patches) 18:57 cait https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/en/html/miscellaneous.html#reset-the-zebra-index 18:57 cait the only ones left now are the first and hte last 18:57 cait ok 18:57 cait yeah 18:56 LeeJ misc is so....vague 18:56 LeeJ I agree 18:56 LeeJ haha 18:56 cait those are the worst 18:56 LeeJ what is? the misc section? 18:56 cait it's like receiving support emails named 'misc' 18:56 cait i think it's a pet peeve... 18:55 LeeJ cait: I don't see why not as long as each subsection in misc is accounted for elsewhere :) 18:55 cait and then i only need to figure out the sysprefs default and the itemtype cataloguing stuff 18:54 cait i'd like to move printers into a hardware chapter 18:54 cait LeeJ: can i destroy misc ? 18:48 mtompset -- unless I'm in a bad mood. :) 18:48 mtompset Of course, I live in a world of pink unicorns, and everyone is best. ;) 18:47 mtompset I third it, if we even need to go that far. :) 18:46 cait hmpf :) 18:46 LeeJ I second oleonard 18:46 oleonard cait: Yeah-huh. 18:45 cait nah 18:44 LeeJ cait: you're the best :D 18:44 cait yay :) 18:42 LeeJ mtompset: hiya 18:42 mtompset Greetings, LeeJ 18:41 LeeJ cait: merged :) 18:39 * LeeJ waves to mtompset 18:38 cait and link directly to the manual 18:38 cait for next release 18:38 cait this will be an interim fix, we plan to get rid of the help pages 18:38 cait mtompset: we can't do that at the moment in the gui 18:37 cait LeeJ: next merge request :) 18:37 mtompset If someone wishes to expand it to across languages, we'd need to add an id attribute into the anchor reference, and then we could scrape it more precisely. :) 18:35 mtompset If you fail to apply all three patches, the test will fail. :) 18:34 mtompset The test is currently limited to English, because it scrapes the URL. 18:33 drojf good night #koha 18:33 cait 'from a suggestion' option is used to create an order from it. 18:33 cait also english? This notice is sent to the patron who made a suggestion, when the 18:30 mtompset Because checking 190ish pages is a pain! 18:30 mtompset It makes testing easier. :) 18:30 mtompset And that's why I wrote that crazy test script. 18:28 cait mtompset: cool, trying to find someone to qa 18:25 huginn mtompset: LeeJ was last seen in #koha 3 minutes and 53 seconds ago: <LeeJ> caroline: by the way, that browse results syspref DOES work after following the test plan...I left the link to it in the task 18:25 mtompset @seen LeeJ 18:25 huginn mtompset: downloading the Perl source 18:25 mtompset @seenm LeeJ 18:25 caroline It wasn't what I was expecting, i misread the syspref 18:24 caroline LeeJ: yes, I saw the link! 18:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20706 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Fix links to help files for changed file structure (removed numbering on files) 18:24 mtompset I signed off bug 20706... and tweaked the test I added so it wasn't a hard coded list. :) 18:23 huginn mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 7 minutes and 15 seconds ago: <cait> made in order to confirm the request. 18:23 mtompset @seen cait 18:23 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 18:22 LeeJ caroline: by the way, that browse results syspref DOES work after following the test plan...I left the link to it in the task 18:17 LeeJ caroline: right?! And then on July 1 I get a fresh batch of leave time for the next year :) 18:16 LeeJ cait: yes it is! 18:16 caroline oh no, poor you! ;) 18:16 cait made in order to confirm the request. 18:16 cait This notice is sent to the patron when an article request has been 18:16 cait is that an english sentence? 18:16 LeeJ I'm a workaholic so it will be hard beinh away so much 18:16 cait so do it :) 18:16 LeeJ I have 15 vacation days to use before July 1st :( 18:16 caroline cait: you keep busy on vacation! 18:15 cait caroline: just on vacation heh 18:13 caroline not right now, I'm too busy trying to make my marketing guy happy ;) 18:13 LeeJ so are you caroline! 18:12 caroline cait: you are on fire! :) 18:10 LeeJ that's awesome 18:10 LeeJ cait: I didn't know we already started to put the style guide together! :D 18:09 cait ordered lists 18:09 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ReStructuredText_-_Tips_and_Tricks 18:08 LeeJ yep! 18:07 cait you saw 3 ocmmits right? heh 18:07 LeeJ :D 18:07 cait wow fast :) 18:07 LeeJ cait: merged! Looks great! :) 18:05 LeeJ okay 18:05 cait LeeJ: merge request submitted 18:04 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20437: Force the dependency on HTTP::OAI < 4.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=05ebfaf0c04cce35933f81e48de95b307da1c325> 18:04 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20693: Plack fails, because 'libcgi-emulate-psgi-perl' package is not installed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f9e06c38495ad9b7c14a9866414c229da92833db> 18:04 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20693: Update control file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a6cad2fa9d8e4419be7538949b4ce9a758d0e9b> 18:04 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20437: Update debian/control <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b31bc2d27c6e045a6e7ea079778c47674c135db> 18:02 cait totally right about that 18:02 cait ashimema++ 18:02 cait hoping the english is ok 18:01 LeeJ cait: I'll be looking forward to it! :) 18:01 cait LeeJ: i will have another brnach with a few patches for you soon 18:00 cait thx 18:00 cait yep 17:59 cait ashimema: maybe it was the missing . 17:58 LeeJ thanks ashimema! 17:54 ashimema As I said.. I've dabbled with sphinx a few time before.. You guys are doing a great job 😀 17:52 LeeJ good find! 17:52 LeeJ ashimema: :O 17:52 ashimema http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/master/usage/restructuredtext/basics.html#lists-and-quote-like-blocks 17:50 ashimema You need the period 17:50 ashimema #. For ordered lists cait 17:48 cait hm? 17:48 LeeJ I've been looking in gitlab settings for some sort of key 17:47 cait we can try and clean them up later if we figure it out 17:47 cait i followed that for now 17:47 LeeJ >_> 17:47 cait in notices there are some lists numbered manually 17:47 cait i was wondering 17:45 LeeJ I can't find an example of numbered lists..only unordered.. 17:38 LeeJ let's see... 17:36 cait :) 17:36 cait numbered lists 17:35 LeeJ cait: hm? 17:35 cait maybe something about my spaces 17:35 cait but doesn't seem to do it 17:35 cait hm according to docs # shoudl auto number 17:34 LeeJ variations...ugh lol 17:34 cait i'd handle them separately and maybe something like a see also ote to the other? 17:33 cait we renamed the old one to match with the new one 17:33 cait i thnk one is a rename and the other is new? 17:33 LeeJ thanks :) 17:33 cait looking 17:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20291 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Add a StaffLoginInstructions system preference to add text to the staff client login box 17:31 LeeJ cait: I'm not sure how to handle/split up the two prefs for Bug 20291 17:31 LeeJ cait: it's also one word in computer design so we're good :) 17:31 cait also good :) 17:30 LeeJ cait: I tried googling tool bar and it suggested toolbar so yes one word :) 17:30 LeeJ hmm 17:29 * oleonard will try to stay put for a while 17:29 cait wb oleonard :) 17:27 * cait decides on toolbar 17:25 cait LeeJ: toolbar or tool bar? 17:00 LeeJ :D 17:00 * LeeJ cheers cait on 16:54 LeeJ kidclamp++ # for adding detailed info for the novelist staff client syspref :) 16:46 cait ok :) 16:46 LeeJ so some of it might be outdated but at least it's all there 16:46 LeeJ cait: if memory serves, the "missing sections" user story was added just for us to migrate all the content from the framapad at the time 16:45 LeeJ yes please 16:45 LeeJ cait: thank you :) 16:45 cait some seem alrady in, just mark closed? 16:45 cait LeeJ: looking a bit at the missing sections 16:44 LeeJ 4 of the new sys prefs documented..only 15 more to go 16:34 LeeJ Joubu: thanks! 16:19 cait oh i found one actually 16:19 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19794 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Rename RLIST - Routing list notice template as it's not related to routing lists 16:19 cait LeeJ: where do I add a taiga task for bug 19794? 16:14 Joubu LeeJ: it's staff only, 10858 will be for OPAC (not pushed yet) 16:12 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10858 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, In Discussion , Browse selected biblios - OPAC 16:12 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19290 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Browse selected biblios - Staff 16:12 LeeJ Joubu: am I correct in my understanding that the BrowseResultSelection syspref is OPAC only? Bug 19290 indicates it's for the OPAC but then it appears Bug 10858 points it towards being used in intranet. Basically, should I include the syspref under OPAC or elsewhere? 16:11 cait ashimema: we are using gitlab, you will like it ;) 16:11 ashimema It's not the submitting a patch I have problems with.. Gitlab is nicer than bugzilla 😉 and I've used sphinx for a couple of years myself. It's more to do with tying the two things together between a Gitlab PR and a bugzilla patch going through qa etc.. 16:09 LeeJ ashimema: I'm always available for lessons :) 16:09 ashimema I'm still not sure about doc process to be honest.. It would be good to submit manual patches in parallel to the code patches 16:02 LeeJ what cait said! 16:01 wahanui mailing lists are http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 16:01 bag mailing lists? 16:00 cait ashimema: even better to submit a patch to the manual :) 15:59 LeeJ :) 15:59 LeeJ ashimema: for the record, it's primarily important for new features and enhancements : 15:59 LeeJ but really though...it makes it such a smoother process if we don't have to go through potentially hundreds of comments to find information about what something does :) 15:58 LeeJ ashimema: :D 15:58 * ashimema takes note to give better detail info for such patches in the future ;) 15:57 * LeeJ would like to thank the devs who provide detailed information about system preferences in bug reports 15:55 NateC Who is the best person to refer someone to who is having issues with general mailing list? Wizzyrea? Rangi? 15:54 NateC Hi Everyone!! 15:44 * oleonard bbl 15:39 drojf tcohen: you can use --version with dh-make-perl i think. what i did is dget -x with the dsc file that is in jessie 15:29 kidclamp jajm++ 15:05 cait yep thx 15:05 tcohen just giving you info 15:05 cait just wondering 15:05 cait it's alright 15:05 tcohen ashimema++ # Relase Maintainer! 15:04 tcohen and we ight be inconsistent on that regard 15:04 tcohen the first attempt from jajm (from which I borrowed the code) had a different (than OAuth2) terminology 15:03 tcohen cait: you should talk about client ID and secret I think 15:01 reiveune bye 14:59 tcohen what was the way to build specific versions of cpan moduleS? 14:59 tcohen drojf: I just picked libhttp-oai-perl from jessie 14:54 AndrewIsh Joubu: Looking at, for example opac/opac-issue-note.pl, C4::Scrubber::scrub is called on a note field. Which, looking at http://search.cpan.org/~nigelm/HTML-Scrubber-0.17/lib/HTML/Scrubber.pm appears to remove the unwanted content. I too am sanitizing a notes field, so was going to follow the example of opac-issue-note.pl 14:53 cait oleonard++ 14:53 cait thx :) 14:52 oleonard cait: ⌘ represents the "command" key on a Mac, formerly the "Apple" key. It typically replaces "Ctrl" in Mac keyboard shortcuts. 14:51 Joubu AndrewIsh: ^ 14:51 Joubu you certainly want to store what the user entered then display the string escaped 14:51 cait ⌘ < some apple key? 14:46 AndrewIsh Looks like that should fit the bill, thanks cait 14:46 LeeJ #TheMoreYouKnow 14:46 cait ah cool 14:46 AndrewIsh opac/opac-tags.pl:use C4::Scrubber; 14:46 AndrewIsh opac/opac-memberentry.pl:use C4::Scrubber; 14:46 AndrewIsh opac/opac-issue-note.pl:use C4::Scrubber; 14:46 AndrewIsh opac/svc/checkout_notes:use C4::Scrubber; 14:46 AndrewIsh opac/opac-review.pl:use C4::Scrubber; 14:46 AndrewIsh opac/opac-suggestions.pl:use C4::Scrubber; 14:46 AndrewIsh Here, apparently: 14:45 cait not sure if somewhere else 14:45 cait i know it's used by tags 14:45 AndrewIsh cait: Sanitization of user input, e.g. removing undesirable markup or scripting. I just discovered C4::Scrubber, which appears to be a wrapper around HTML::Scrubber. Looks like that might be what I've been searching for 14:43 cait what kind of sanitation? 14:42 AndrewIsh I have been poking around looking for examples, but failed to find any thus far 14:41 AndrewIsh Can anyone point me to a good example of how Koha sanitizes user input? I'm specifically looking for examples of sanitizing input prior to database storage, I want to stay consistent with whatever approach is currently in use. 14:37 cait because both appear int ranslations and was not sure 14:37 cait i meant key and secret :) 14:36 tcohen client_id and client_secret 14:35 cait tcohen: ? 14:35 cait are client id/key and client id/secret different things? 14:19 cait ah :) 14:18 LeeJ for example, in the Fall semester starting in August I'll be hopefully taking classes with 2 Chinese professors and 1 Nigerian professor :) 14:18 LeeJ we're getting a rapidly increasing number of international professors 14:17 cait oi :) 14:16 LeeJ cait: your English is better than many academics at my university 14:16 eythian https://www.deepl.com/translator often gets translations surprisingly good 14:16 cait and my question back was: is my english really that terrible? 14:16 * eythian prefers deepl for many things 14:15 cait but i remember a former koha develoer who asked me if I was using google translate to communicate with you all 14:15 LeeJ at least in my experience anyway :) 14:15 LeeJ haha 14:15 cait never failed would go too far 14:15 LeeJ cait: Google translate has never failed me! Especially in recent years when they've added being able to select alternate translations :) 14:14 LeeJ cait: that's what I'm here for :) 14:14 cait sorry for complaining :) 14:14 cait a little :) 14:14 LeeJ cait: does that help? :P 14:14 eythian surely it's just one word 14:14 LeeJ cait: OAuth2-Client-Berechtigungsnachweis gewähren 14:11 * cait cries a little trying to phrase that in German 14:11 cait OAuth2 client credentials grant 13:56 wahanui bidet, tcohen 13:56 tcohen hi 13:53 cait still not ideal 13:53 cait just the word fine somewhere would be harder 13:53 cait it means I have some kind of context there and know that they will work together 13:53 cait Joubu: actually it's not all bad 13:51 AndrewIsh OK, thanks cait 13:50 Joubu (translations) 13:49 Joubu cait: yes it's hard to catch on QA, we should think about a way to find them before push 13:48 LeeJ cait: side note..breaking up those chapters really made a difference when looking for something specific in the HTML copy 13:47 cait because applying for the testers is fine 13:46 cait I think 'do not push' maybe 13:45 AndrewIsh Hey all. Can someone advise me on schema changes. Should the patch be marked with "DO NOT APPLY" or similar? I gather that used to be the way it was done, but I'm not seeing anything on the Database Updates wiki page, so am not sure 13:45 * LeeJ backs away from translation very slowly 13:44 LeeJ :O 13:44 cait no fun 13:44 cait stuff like this: %s %sPayment, thanks %sPayment, thanks (cash via SIP2) %sPayment, thanks (VISA via SIP2) %sPayment, thanks (credit card via SIP2) %sNew card %sFine %sAccount management fee %sSundry %sLost item %sWriteoff %sAccruing fine %sHold waiting too long %sRental fee %sForgiven %sLost item fee refund %sProcessing fee %sPayment %sWriteoff %sCredit %sCredit %s%s %s %s, %s%s %s, %s%s %s(%s)%sâ 13:44 cait thx :) 13:42 LeeJ cait: Viel Glück :) 13:42 ashimema yup 13:42 cait will see how far ig et today in my todo list 13:42 cait i have to translate now :( 13:42 LeeJ working on it allllll day 13:42 cait i know 13:42 LeeJ don't I know it lol 13:42 * LeeJ groans 13:42 cait there is still a lot for 18.05 to document 13:42 LeeJ cait: I like that idea :) 13:41 cait i'd probably branch out when the first 18.11 patch comes in 13:41 cait time wise 13:41 cait we are not there yet i think 13:41 LeeJ wait a tick...so then if something needed to be added retroactively then that should still be fine I'd think? 13:41 ashimema the docs in master should reflect the work being pushed to master in my opinion 13:40 ashimema so branching an 18.05 and continueing work on it sounds like the way to go to me.. 13:40 ashimema yeah they are.. 13:40 ashimema I can't remember 13:39 ashimema Are the docs versioned? 13:37 AndrewIsh magnuse: Thanks for the pointer :) 13:37 AndrewIsh magnuse: Well spotted on me mistakenly touching Koha/Schema/Result/SocialData.pm - now fixed :) 13:36 cait hm i think they are not autogenerated yet 13:35 LeeJ okay thanks for the confirmation Joubu I just wasn't sure because the docs page on the site has links to each version's PDF..didn't know but now I do :) 13:33 Joubu the manual is online, so we can update it when we want, no need to stop when it's released :) 13:32 LeeJ progress is progress :) 13:31 cait feels not quite done yet... but getting there 13:31 LeeJ soooo much easier to handle 13:31 cait oh thx :) 13:31 LeeJ cait: loving the docs structure rework by the way :) 13:30 cait sounds good 13:30 LeeJ thanks :) I'll consult with rangi next time I see him on and get his take on it 13:30 cait i am not sure what would need to be changed for the jobs running 13:29 cait as a lot of 18.05 might still be missing you could branch out a little later i tihnk 13:29 LeeJ ah didn't know that 13:29 cait hm i think that depends on the docs team 13:28 LeeJ cait: correct me if I'm wrong :) 13:28 LeeJ cait: it could just be an instance of my ignorance but it was my understanding the day of version release there was a "final" version of a release's PDF documentation then beyond that would be for master for the next release 13:27 cait why do we need a cutoff? 13:21 LeeJ Joubu: I'm sending out an email to the lists about a documentation sprint from today until release. Should I indicate the cutoff for documentation as the 21st or the 22nd? 13:15 oleonard ^^ That was misplaced focus, not agreement. Though Joubu presumably knows what he's talking about 13:13 oleonard y 13:13 Joubu gaetan_B: sort could also be used for priority, for faceted fields for instance 13:11 cait it seems a small change 13:11 cait it's been in my emails to qa team for a while too 13:11 cait i know 13:11 Joubu Joubu added keyword RM_priority on 2018-04-04... 13:11 cait :( 13:10 Joubu and so no regression tests on sql modes done by jenkins 13:10 cait yeah... 13:10 cait too late = too complicated? 13:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20521 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, BLOCKED , dev installations should run with problematic SQL modes 13:10 Joubu cait: too late, but that really a shame because we will not have bug 20521... 13:10 cait was going to do some regression testing in order to be able to pass it, is it on the list still? 13:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20177 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove GROUP BY clause in GetCourses 13:09 cait bug 20177 13:09 cait Joubu: was going to ask about 20177 13:09 huginn oleonard: I've exhausted my database of quotes 13:09 oleonard huginn not everything is about you 13:09 huginn oleonard: downloading the Perl source 13:09 oleonard huginn just mentioned it above, trying not to spam us 13:08 cait hm 13:08 cait bug 20706 13:08 Joubu bug 20706 13:07 Joubu can be considered as blocker for 18.05 13:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20437 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Force requirement for HTTP::OAI 3.27 13:07 Joubu bug 20437 13:07 oleonard I've been waiting to submit some patches for that template pending understanding of the sorting issue 13:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20724 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , ReservesNeedReturns syspref breaks "Holds awaiting pickup" 13:07 Joubu bug 20724 13:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20706 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Fix links to help files for changed file structure (removed numbering on files) 13:07 Joubu bug 20706 13:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20693 blocker, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Signed Off , Plack fails, because 'libcgi-emulate-psgi-perl' package is not installed 13:07 Joubu bug 20693 13:07 Joubu btw 13:06 Joubu alex_a: I am focussed on 18.05 release, sorry I do not have time for that now 13:06 cait as just thinking because we had already removed the old code when the new was started 13:06 oleonard That's so kidclamp 13:06 gaetan_B but no one is sure 13:06 cait ah alright 13:06 gaetan_B we (alex_a, clrh and i)also think this is were this came from 13:06 kidclamp that sounds like something I would say 13:05 gaetan_B well kidclamp told me "drag and drop was implemented I think because SOLR cared which mapping was first and would sort on that - ES won't - if you give it an array if will sort however it wants" when we discussed it 13:04 huginn LeeJ: The operation succeeded. 13:04 LeeJ @later tell davidnind I added a new status for tasks of "Needs screenshots" so we can at least get the content into master then have indication of which ones we need images for 13:04 cait but yeah, question is why is it there in the first place 13:04 oleonard alex_a: If those points are true then you're right, it's not needed. 13:04 huginn LeeJ: The operation succeeded. 13:04 LeeJ @later tell caroline I added a new status for tasks of "Needs screenshots" so we can at least get the content into master then have indication of which ones we need images for 13:04 cait i am not sure if we reused any of that old work 13:04 gaetan_B but not required for elastic 13:04 gaetan_B i think it's inherited from some old work on solr 13:04 cait hm that seems odd 13:03 oleonard I thought the point was for it to be saved. Why have it if it isn't saved? 13:03 alex_a 2) In ES fields/index order is not taken into account 13:03 cait i guess the question is if the sequence matters 13:03 alex_a 1) it's not saved 13:03 alex_a I would say no 13:03 alex_a The question is: Do we need drag N drop on this table? 13:01 Joubu for the mappings, not the field list 13:00 Joubu oleonard: yes it does work 12:59 Joubu so I think I did not PQA because I did not have time to confirm that 12:59 oleonard The last time I looked at the elasticsearch configuration page the drag-and-drop reordering wasn't working. Joubu have you looked at it recently? 12:59 Joubu I do not remember if this is used" 12:59 Joubu " 12:58 Joubu alex_a: it looks like this view needs a complete refresh. The different enhancements you want to add make it less ergonomic in my opinion 12:58 LeeJ sorry, last week was final exams week :) 12:57 Joubu yes, since 2 weeks already ;) 12:57 LeeJ *everything up to the May 9th commit 12:57 LeeJ Joubu: just to confirm..everything (excluding bugfixes) listed in the release notes is all that will be in 18.05 yes? 12:55 LeeJ speak of the devil :) 12:55 * LeeJ waves to Joubu 12:55 oleonard I don't know if Joubu fudged any of those dates, but we're definitely past all of them :) 12:55 Joubu hi #koha 12:54 LeeJ oleonard: thanks! I didn't realize the freezes were listed there 12:51 oleonard String freeze was May 4 according to the calendar 12:49 LeeJ cait: did the feature and/or string freeze happen yet? If not do we know when it will? 12:46 LeeJ I think if you remove the CTZ param it would probably convert to local TZ 12:46 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20588 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , Elasticsearch - Apply dataTable on search fields and mapping tables 12:46 alex_a Joubu, do you fail QA bug 20588 ? 12:44 LeeJ well that sets it for my time zone but I'm sure it can be adjusted :) that's the public cal link 12:43 LeeJ cait: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=9favfolvgbh721ar2uusnbddlo%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America%2FNew_York 12:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20750 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Needs Signoff , Allow timestamped auditing of ILL request events 12:31 magnuse AndrewIsh: looks like the new patch on bug 20750 touches Koha/Schema/Result/SocialData.pm - is that by design? 12:30 ashimema It's just ical isn't it cait 12:16 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 12:16 cait @later tell Joubu I think I ofund a way to use it, th 12:09 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 12:09 cait @later tell Joubu can the calendar for the meetings be used without using Google calendar? 12:07 cait Joubu: around? 12:03 * LeeJ LeeJ uses AdiIRC 12:03 LeeJ hi #koha 12:03 * LeeJ waves 12:00 wahanui well, next meetings is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 12:00 cait next meetings? 11:37 eythian You get my pain! 11:35 oleonard Someone captured your sealskin and you've had to live as a human on dry land ever since? 11:33 drojf true! 11:33 eythian also, long time no sea: (|-<<<<<-< 11:33 drojf hi oleonard :) 11:33 oleonard Hi drojf, long time no see 11:33 drojf *tried 11:32 drojf ashimema: i played with it a bit and set up a server. i had a bridge here too, not sure if it is still there actually. but riot did not cope with the amount of messages or something when i left the matrix account in here. have not tired in a while 11:32 oleonard Hi all 11:32 AndrewIsh magnuse: +1 11:32 ashimema AndrewIsh is on an ILL sprint for a few more days yet ;) 11:31 magnuse and those patches are saving me some work ;-) 11:30 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20750 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Needs Signoff , Allow timestamped auditing of ILL request events 11:30 magnuse i have not looked at the updated patch for bug 20750 yet, but a quick turnaround is good :-) 11:30 * eythian just uses quassel 11:30 AndrewIsh magnuse: Glad you approve! ;-) 11:29 ashimema very tempted though.. are you on matrix then drojf? 11:29 magnuse AndrewIsh++ 11:29 ashimema not got around to working that out yet. 11:29 drojf ashimema: run your own matrix server 11:27 * cait is still happily using pidgin 11:25 * ashimema still needs two irc clients as matrix doesn't yet have bridges to all his channels :( 11:24 cait way less confusing :) 11:23 ashimema doppelgänger be gone. 10:44 ashimema boo.. so riot/matrix isn't forwarding pm's properly 10:38 cait from ashimema_ 10:38 cait ashimema only one? 10:37 cait hi drojf :) 10:37 cait only one :) 10:18 ashimema did you get my PM's cait? 10:16 ashimema Hi cait 09:58 ere hi cait! 09:58 cait hi kidclamp and ere 09:57 * ere waves back 09:56 * kidclamp waves 09:38 andreashm cait: oh, thanks! 09:36 cait calendar link on top: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings 09:35 cait Joubu made something that will add the dates to your calendar 09:35 andreashm cait: calendar thing? 09:34 cait i thin it's high time to put your name down if you want to do it 09:33 tuxayo Even worse, they might not be here at the meeting so we might never hear about potential candidates. 09:32 cait ashimema ping? 09:32 tuxayo cait: If there are people that could turn up for 18.05 RMaint, they might think that it's probable that ashimema_ is interested so they might not turn up. 09:30 cait just started raining heavily, wow 09:29 cait there is also the calendar thing, but can point out we are still missing some important roles 09:28 andreashm cait: always a good idea with a reminder! 09:24 cait i am going to send a meeting reminder 09:24 cait hm 09:22 tuxayo cait: yes https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_16_May_2018#Agenda 09:19 wahanui tomorrow is pizza friday! or the day after today. 09:19 cait tomorrow? 09:19 cait hm yeah, i hope someone turns up before the election meeting 09:13 tuxayo cait: it seems so. I've heard nothing new since the meeting. And a quick search in the IRC logs didn't allowed to find more info. (â†terrible phrasing...) 09:08 cait hm coming back after a few days... we still miss a 18.05 release maint? :( 09:08 tuxayo o/ cait 09:08 * cait waves at tuxayo 09:03 tuxayo Hello again KohaDevBox, it's been a long time! :D 09:03 tuxayo "All tests successful." 08:50 cait good morning #koha 08:35 andreashm morning 07:43 gaetan_B hello 07:20 tuxayo I'm happy because my PC doesn't crash anymore when starting a virtual machine. Which means I can use a devbox again!!! 07:19 tuxayo Hola Koha! 06:35 reiveune hello 06:27 wahanui hi, alex_a 06:27 alex_a bonjour 05:56 magnuse \o/ 03:16 wizzyrea later 03:16 wizzyrea right 03:16 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha wizzyrea 03:13 mtompset Not to mention release 18.05 candidate, and it is kind of necessary to fix the help files, at least in English. :) 03:11 mtompset I figured you might like to sign something off for cait. :) 03:11 mtompset I just added a patch and a test. 03:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20706 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Fix links to help files for changed file structure (removed numbering on files) 03:11 mtompset bug 20706 03:11 wizzyrea hi, sup 03:10 huginn mtompset: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 1 week, 0 days, 5 hours, 7 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> they should definitely be on their way to bed :P 03:10 mtompset @seen wizzyrea 02:52 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 02:52 mtompset @later tell cait bug 20706 has a tiny issue, which if you fixed, I would be able to get around to signing off. Thank you. 02:27 mtompset Valid call there. 02:26 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 58 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <Joubu> @later tell fridolin I think you should revert 20234 from 17.05.x 02:26 mtompset @seen Joubu 02:25 huginn mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 3 days, 5 hours, 1 minute, and 11 seconds ago: <cait> usually they go fast :) 02:25 mtompset @seen cait 00:59 mtompset tcohen, I had to add headless, tzdata-java and tzdata of a particular version with a --forced-yes, in order to get it to build.