Time  Nick          Message
21:56 davidnind     I will too.. shows some promise, if we can figure it out. Have a good evening!
21:55 LeeJ          sorry, I quit out because I'm heading home now..I'll hop on here tomorrow morning before the webinar
21:54 davidnind     Trying Chrome now - can see myself,but not hear anyone...
21:51 LeeJ          everyone seemed to get it working using chrome
21:51 davidnind     Doesn't seem to be working terribly well - maybe I will need to read the manual!
21:38 davidnind     Lt the testing begin!
21:38 LeeJ          alrighty, let me grab my laptop and we can try jitsi
21:37 davidnind     LeeJ++
21:37 huginn        Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/documentation_irc_meeting_29_march_2018.2018-03-29-21.05.log.html
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21:37 huginn        Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/documentation_irc_meeting_29_march_2018.2018-03-29-21.05.html
21:37 huginn        Meeting ended Thu Mar 29 21:37:43 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
21:37 LeeJ          #endmeeting
21:37 LeeJ          #info Next meeting: 11 April 2018, 21 UTC
21:37 clintD        +1
21:37 davidnind     good
21:37 georgew       good
21:36 LeeJ          alrighty..then let's say April 11th UTC? agreed?
21:36 georgew       The 11th would be better for me
21:36 davidnind     That sounds good as well
21:35 LeeJ          April 11th or 12th?
21:34 LeeJ          since we're less than 2 months away from release let's try for...
21:34 georgew       +1
21:34 LeeJ          cool
21:34 davidnind     Sounds fine to me
21:34 LeeJ          alright...I guess we can set the next meeting for April at 21 UTC again if people are fine with that
21:33 davidnind     Joubu++
21:33 LeeJ          thanks again!
21:33 * LeeJ        waves bye
21:33 LeeJ          Joubu: THANK YOU
21:33 Joubu         bye #koha
21:33 * Joubu       has to run
21:33 Joubu         added *it*
21:32 Joubu         I have added when I thought it would be useful to highligh it in the release notes and give more info about the change
21:31 LeeJ          niceee
21:31 Joubu         search for the keyword "release-notes-needed"
21:31 davidnind     It would!
21:31 Joubu         not all enhancement
21:31 LeeJ          Joubu: yes please!
21:31 Joubu         I need to ask devs to fill the "text to go in the release notes", that would help documentation team
21:31 LeeJ          Joubu: I would be doing a query for 'new feature' and 'enhancement' correct?
21:30 davidnind     great as well
21:30 LeeJ          I've been looking over BZ this afternoon
21:30 Joubu         ok great
21:30 LeeJ          Joubu: yes..that's the primary purpose of the webinar tomorrow
21:30 LeeJ          davidnind: that's something we can go over tomorrow
21:30 Joubu         does someone plan to work on documenting the new features of 18.05?
21:29 LeeJ          Joubu: sure no problem
21:29 davidnind     Should all 'tasks' be added to bugzilla, or is the aim to get started using the task list in etherpad
21:29 Joubu         1sec
21:29 LeeJ          now..when to have the next meeting
21:29 LeeJ          indeed
21:28 davidnind     Nothing else to add - like the work on the task list and the workflow - will be working through this over the weekend
21:28 wahanui       interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
21:28 LeeJ          interesting
21:28 davidnind     Aside: http://www.mclean.net.nz/ucf/ Unicode character finder, if that's your thing.
21:27 LeeJ          anyone else have anything to add before we wrap up?
21:27 LeeJ          Joubu: as usual, your foresight is overwhelming :)
21:27 Joubu         that's what I had in mind but thought it was fair to ask again during the doc meeting ;)
21:27 LeeJ          davidnind: wahanui says odd things sometimes
21:26 davidnind     Although I' not sure about extended-unicode bugs though! :) Where did that come from?
21:26 LeeJ          certainly!
21:26 Joubu         thx
21:26 LeeJ          agreed
21:25 davidnind     Sounds good now I've read through it!
21:25 wahanui       thoughts are that this might help us fix a lot of extended-unicode bugs
21:25 LeeJ          davidnind: thoughts?
21:24 LeeJ          Joubu: I'll include in the email a deadline of next weekend..if no one provides feedback then it can be done however you think best/prefer
21:23 davidnind     Just reading it now...
21:22 davidnind     Excellent Joubu!
21:22 davidnind     Preferably online
21:22 Joubu         "- Make the online documentation configurable to add the ability to point to a local copy (for offline access)"
21:22 davidnind     I think it is good thing to have one source and one place to go, for what its worth.
21:22 Joubu         davidnind: not an issue, it's taken into account
21:21 LeeJ          #action LeeJ will send out an email asking for Koha users to provide use cases for Joubu which would use the "Edit the manual" feature
21:21 davidnind     Is this going to be an issue for those who have bad or slow internet/intermittent power? For example, Nigeria...
21:21 Joubu         but I think I have asked 5x times already so it seems people does not really care about it :)
21:20 Joubu         I'd like to remove the local help in 18.05 and point to the online manual version instead
21:20 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19817 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Merge local and online documentations
21:20 Joubu         I am still waiting for feedback on bug 19817
21:19 Joubu         yes
21:19 LeeJ          anyone have final notes?
21:19 LeeJ          #info koha docs webinar will take place at 17-19 UTC using https://meet.jit.si/KohaDocsTeam
21:18 LeeJ          georgew: right! we can use the link davidnind provided and I'll send out an email after we test it
21:18 georgew       awesome
21:18 davidnind     if it works okay from testing
21:17 georgew       the webinar tomorrow will be on jitsi, then?
21:17 LeeJ          #action jitsi will be tested for operability immediately following the meeting
21:17 LeeJ          as I've already mentioned the "how-to" webinar for kohadocs will be held tomorrow with me hosting it and answering any questions while I show the workflow so we can make progress
21:16 LeeJ          #topic Next steps
21:16 davidnind     Okay then!
21:16 LeeJ          I guess if no one has anything else we'll move on then
21:16 LeeJ          we can try it right after the meeting so we don't have a long pause during the meeting :)
21:15 davidnind     Do we want to try it out now? https://meet.jit.si/KohaDocsTeam
21:15 LeeJ          #link https://meet.jit.si a free and open-source webinar/meeting service complete with screensharing, voice, video, and document sharing and powered by WebRTC
21:15 davidnind     Looks like a really good fit - open source, no installation required if you use the latest Firefox - uses WebRTC, extension required in Google Chrome
21:13 davidnind     :-D I just stumbled across it really...
21:13 LeeJ          davidnind: since you informed me of it, would you care to share about jitsi? :)
21:12 LeeJ          #info koha docs webinar hosted by LeeJ is scheduled for 30 March 2018 between 17 and 19 UTC
21:12 Joubu         s/time permits/people are ready to contribute
21:11 LeeJ          #topic Workflows
21:11 LeeJ          alrighty, moving on..
21:11 LeeJ          #info screenshot internationalization considered low priority for now until time permits
21:10 Joubu         so it's considered as low priority for now
21:10 LeeJ          I understand..once we have the webinar tomorrow for how to use kohadocs I'll see who I can rally to be at your disposal as guinea pigs for whatever steps need to be taken at your instruction
21:10 Joubu         It did not get enough attention
21:10 Joubu         I will not have time to get back to that soon
21:08 LeeJ          Joubu: a note to you...I went through that mailing list email of yours regarding screenshots..I feel the second scenario would be more well-received as it appears easier to navigate
21:08 LeeJ          first off..
21:07 LeeJ          #topic What's been done so far
21:07 LeeJ          anyone else before topic change for intros? no? good :)
21:07 clintD        #Clint Deckard, Anact NZ
21:06 georgew       #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System
21:06 Joubu         #info Jonathan Druart
21:06 davidnind     #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand
21:06 LeeJ          #info Lee Jamison, Marywood University
21:06 wahanui       #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
21:06 LeeJ          #topic Introductions
21:05 huginn        The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_29_march_2018'
21:05 huginn        Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
21:05 huginn        Meeting started Thu Mar 29 21:05:58 2018 UTC.  The chair is LeeJ. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
21:05 LeeJ          #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 29 March 2018
21:05 LeeJ          sweet
21:05 davidnind     Back now...
21:04 LeeJ          davidnind: let me know when you're back and we'll get started
21:02 LeeJ          drink some for me!
21:02 LeeJ          and jitsi offers a lot more features
21:01 davidnind     Good plan - will just make myself another pot of tea!
21:01 LeeJ          the difference between jitsi and hangouts is you are required to have a google account for hangouts
21:01 davidnind     Other alternatives seem to be Google Google Hangout and Skype (not sure if that does multiple people).
21:00 LeeJ          I'll start the meeting in 5 minutes to give time for straglers to trickle in
21:00 davidnind     I didn't have to do anything in Firefox (on Ubuntu), it also seemed to work fine in Google Chrome and Chromium (I forgot about the chrome extension...)
20:58 LeeJ          others may see it differently but I'd like to think it's trivial for what you get
20:58 LeeJ          well in chrome on windows you have to install a chrome extension but that's minor in my opinion
20:58 davidnind     I like that you don't need to install anything if your browser is up-to-date, and also that you could host it on your own server if you wanted to.
20:54 LeeJ          good find :)
20:54 LeeJ          it seems like it will..I looked through it and it's a great solution from what I can see
20:52 davidnind     I haven't used Jitsi Meet in real life, so will be interesting to see if it works okay for more than one person...
20:51 LeeJ          I'm having the same problem with my desktop client so I just peek at it occasionally lol
20:51 davidnind     For some reason Pidgin isn't beeping at me...
20:50 davidnind     Hi LeeJ!
20:43 LeeJ          davidnind: that service is amazing
20:43 * LeeJ        waves to davidnind
20:22 bag           cool
20:22 LeeJ          bag: cait is trying to catch up on her back log of stuff :)
20:21 huginn        bag: cait was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 17 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: * cait sends all the cookies
20:21 bag           @seen cait
20:21 bag           hehe :D
20:20 Joubu         lol, not easter related then :)
20:19 bag           It’s opening day for the us baseball season :P
20:19 bag           Joubu today is a national holiday - well it should be
20:17 em_           i'm tired of this
20:17 em_           i've face this issue for almost 10 months
20:16 em_           this is recurring problem
20:16 em_           why does this problem persist with Koha all the time??
20:16 em_           why is it not uploading pdf files???
20:16 em_           if everything is installed crrectly
20:16 em_           this is not right...
20:14 em_           what about the INSTANCE-koha?
20:13 Joubu         I have no idea, it should work. Ask to the list if somebody else already faced the same issue
20:13 em_           ok what's my next step
20:13 Joubu         then the directory exists with the correct owner
20:12 em_           thats al
20:12 em_           i got the output as --- library-koha
20:12 wahanui       Hmm.  No matches for that, em_.
20:12 em_           this is exactly i ran the command --- stat -c '%U' /var/lib/koha/library/uploads/
20:11 em_           hey i run the command without ` and i get the output as library-koha
20:10 Joubu         you should contact an IT guy
20:09 em_           ok it says library-koha: command not found
20:08 Joubu         if it does not exist you will get "no such file or directory"
20:08 Joubu         this will give you the owner of the directory
20:08 Joubu         stat -c '%U' /var/lib/koha/library/uploads/
20:07 Joubu         basically you need to check if 1. This directory exist and 2. if you have the correct permission (user should be INSTANCE-koha)
20:07 em_           how long do you think it might take to fix it?
20:07 em_           that's my upload path..
20:06 em_           <upload_path>/var/lib/koha/library/uploads/</upload_path>
20:06 Joubu         sorry I cannot continue, it will be a nightmare for you and for me
20:06 Joubu         what was in your upload_path
20:06 Joubu         /var/lib/koha/library/uploads/
20:06 Joubu         it's library
20:06 Joubu         nope sorry
20:04 em_           `stat -c '%U' /var/lib/koha/kohadev` i executed the exact command
20:03 LeeJ          oh derp..still have an hour my bad xD
20:02 Joubu         you forgot a /
20:02 em_           stat: cannot  stat 'var/lib/koha/kohadev': no such file or directory
20:02 Joubu         em_: stat -c '%U' /var/lib/koha/kohadev
20:02 Joubu         just to see the owner of this directory
20:02 LeeJ          I'm gonna give people a few more minutes to join before I start the meeting..
20:02 Joubu         continue, 5min
20:02 Joubu         otherwise it will take ages
20:02 Joubu         but you should read about commandline and the basic commands first
20:01 em_           ok
20:01 Joubu         and remove the last `
20:01 Joubu         ctrl+c
20:00 em_           it just gives me '>' as the output
19:58 em_           ok
19:58 Joubu         yes
19:58 em_           do i do that in the terminal?
19:58 em_           how do i do that?
19:56 Joubu         yes, now execute `stat -c '%U' /var/lib/koha/kohadev``
19:55 em_           or is there any other way that I need to find out the upload_path?
19:54 em_           is that what you were asking?
19:53 em_           2. <upload_path>/var/lib/koha/library/uploads/</upload_path>
19:53 em_           1. leafpad /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml
19:53 em_           while giving the upload i followed these steps
19:53 em_           ok lemme check the path
19:52 em_           if I can solve this problem i will not on my life
19:52 Joubu         what's the value of upload_path?
19:52 em_           yes
19:52 Joubu         so now you should promise yourself to not reinstall again
19:51 em_           File could not be created. Check permissions
19:51 huginn        em_: downloading the Perl source
19:51 em_           @joubu did a clean installation again just now still having the same issue
19:20 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move patron templates JavaScript to the footer
19:20 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20498 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Patron advanced search form missing from patron entry page
19:20 jenkins       oleonard: Bug 20498: (bug 19641 follow-up) Patron advanced search form missing
19:20 jenkins       Project Koha_Master_D8 build #413: STILL UNSTABLE in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/413/
19:19 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
19:19 Joubu         @later tell oha around?
19:04 Joubu         at first glance yes
19:03 mtompset      Joubu, better?
19:00 mtompset      But then I have to duplicate the UNKNOWN_BARCODE code.
19:00 mtompset      :(
18:57 Joubu         mtompset: looks like we should return after      my $item = GetItem(undef, $barcode );
18:56 Shane-S       Hi all, is it possible to migrate data from 12.20.02 to the new release if I build a new server?
18:52 jenkins       Project Koha_Master_D8 build #412: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/412/
18:52 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20499 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Checkout of bad barcode: Internal Server Error
18:52 mtompset      Easy sign off: bug 20499
18:39 em_           i have skip my class :'(
18:39 em_           ok i will try that
18:39 Joubu         search for "upload_path"
18:39 em_           ok then im going to try and do a clean installation of koha again
18:38 Joubu         edit /etc/koha/sites/INSTANCE/koha-conf.xml
18:38 Joubu         do not do it
18:37 em_           even that idk how to do....
18:37 em_           i'm actually deleting the whole thing and try to reinstall 17.11.02
18:37 em_           where do i find it?
18:36 Joubu         em_: what's the value of the entry "upload_path" in your koha-conf.xml file?
18:32 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 20498: (bug 19641 follow-up) Patron advanced search form missing from patron... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=caba1b2daef753c7db946851491ce75ac978798c>
18:27 Joubu         oleonard: so you should be able to define a originalOffset when applying fixFloat to the toolbar, like we do in members/memberentrygen.tt
18:24 mtompset      I'm playing loose and fast with the word path, because URL and directory path aren't the same, but I'm hoping you can tell which is which in what I am typing.
18:23 mtompset      because you don't necessarily want people just typing a path that would access the file directly.
18:22 mtompset      For example, if your path is /var/www/... then you probably have a bad path.
18:22 mtompset      that is web accessible.
18:22 wahanui       okay, mtompset.
18:22 mtompset      And it is also probably a bad idea to put your upload directory in a path that is web accessible directory.
18:21 mtompset      which is basically, only the owner can write, but anyone can read.
18:21 mtompset      then you can chown the directory, and change it back to 755.
18:21 em_           ok
18:20 mtompset      But it will help you figure out the user being used to write the files.
18:20 mtompset      It's bad security.
18:20 mtompset      777 basically means: everyone can do anything to this.
18:20 mtompset      Read the man pages, these are standard linux commands to control permissions to files/directories/devices.
18:19 em_           checking it out
18:19 em_           cool
18:19 mtompset      https://linux.die.net/man/1/chown
18:19 mtompset      https://linux.die.net/man/1/chmod
18:18 em_           ok... so this chmod is something new... where do I get this should i just type it in terminal?
18:18 mtompset      Because people just want something working... they don't always care about correctly. :)
18:17 mtompset      I'm not claiming you are. I'm saying that many people would just chmod 777 and leave it.
18:17 huginn        em_: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
18:17 em_           @mtompset sorry if you thought i was lazy...
18:17 * mtompset    sighs.
18:16 em_           i'm not a tech guy... i'm learning all the tech stuff now with this
18:16 huginn        em_: downloading the Perl source
18:16 mtompset      then chown the directory to that user, and chmod it back to 755.
18:16 em_           @mtompset i'm not lazy... i'm new to this field that's all
18:16 mtompset      Then check who owns the first file you upload.
18:16 mtompset      You could be lazy, to just get it to work, and chmod 777 the directory.
18:15 mtompset      em_, the web process runs as a particular user which doesn't have read/write permissions to the directory you set in the koha-conf.xml file as the upload path.
18:14 em_           do you know what permissions i need to check?
18:14 em_           so why does it tell me to check permissions then?
18:13 em_           hmm... that's awesome
18:13 wahanui       hmmm... 17.11.04 is the current one: https://koha-community.org/koha-17-11-04-release/
18:13 Joubu         17.11.04
18:13 Joubu         I have just tested right now and I am able to upload pdf file using the upload.pl plugin on 856$u
18:11 em_           yes but to do that I have to uninstall everything again right?
18:11 Joubu         I told you how to install a specific version...
18:10 em_           i wish i had 17.11.02
18:10 em_           no change in OS only change is Koha
18:09 em_           yes both are the same OS
18:09 wahanui       both is best :)
18:09 Joubu         both?
18:08 em_           ubuntu 16.04 LTS
18:08 Joubu         em_: OS versions?
18:07 em_           i'm able to upload pdf files no problem at all
18:07 em_           on my other system i have 17.11.02 and it works fine in that
18:06 em_           thanks
18:06 em_           i tried it already.. but imma try it again
18:06 Joubu         it sounds related to your problem
18:05 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19898 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Koha 17.11 - Upload Local Cover Image Failed - "Cannot process file as an image"
18:05 Joubu         em_: I would double check bug 19898 comment 10
18:05 em_           sorry
18:05 em_           ok got it
18:05 Joubu         em_: nope but you are not alone on this chat
18:05 em_           this bug 20498 has nothing to do with me
18:01 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20498 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Patron advanced search form missing from patron entry page
18:01 oleonard      Bug 20498
18:01 em_           which permissions and where?
18:00 Joubu         sounds like you should check the permissions then :)
18:00 em_           worse ever!
18:00 em_           i want to end this life
18:00 em_           i'm tired of this man
18:00 em_           my boss wants this god forsaken software to set up a library
17:59 em_           it says "File could not be created. Check permissions"
17:59 em_           but no
17:59 em_           then go to settings and set up upload.pl in $856u and it should work
17:58 em_           install koha
17:58 em_           it's simple
17:58 em_           i've tried everything i'm exhausted and this is killing me
17:58 em_           im not able to upload pdf files in $856u
17:55 Joubu         why do you want to use .03 instead of .04?
17:54 em_           no i did not
17:54 Joubu         did you open a bug report on the bug tracker describing the issue you face?
17:54 huginn        em_: I've exhausted my database of quotes
17:54 em_           @joubu you mean did i raise a bug or open the bug file you sent me earlier?
17:51 Joubu         em_: did you open a bug report for your issue?
17:51 LeeJ          or when in doubt do what Joubu says :P
17:50 Joubu         it's `apt install debian_package=version`
17:50 Joubu         it's `apt install debian_package=version\
17:50 LeeJ          you won't need to specify a version or anything because that download *IS* the 17.11.03 installation itself
17:50 LeeJ          em_: if you download the tarball (tar.gz) file in the link I provided follow the install instructions contained within it after you un-tar it you should just be able to do a clean install.
17:48 em_           echo deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha stable main | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list --- i know we give this command for it download
17:48 em_           can you tell me while im installing what command i should give to get the specific release?
17:47 LeeJ          there's a download link there
17:47 LeeJ          em_: https://koha-community.org/koha-17-11-03-release/
17:46 LeeJ          em_: I believe there are package installs for each version and sub version..as far as I know anyway
17:46 em_           have deleted and installed it 5 times till now its useless
17:46 em_           the new one online is 17.11.04 complete with bugs
17:45 em_           i want to install 17.11.03
17:45 em_           please can someone tell me how to install a specific version of koha during installtion?
17:43 em_           File could not be created. Check permissions.
17:43 em_           that's the error message i get
17:43 em_           upload status: failed
17:41 em_           unable to upload pdf files in $856u
17:41 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19898 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Koha 17.11 - Upload Local Cover Image Failed - "Cannot process file as an image"
17:41 em_           i tried the steps in bug 19898 still doesn't work
17:04 * cait        sends all the cookies
17:04 cait          just joking
17:03 cait          bad oleonard, no cookie for you :P
17:00 oleonard      I figured it was probably my fault :(
16:59 Joubu         oleonard: code has been moved to members-menu.js but it is not used anywhere
16:57 oleonard      I will take a look
16:57 Joubu         oleonard: are you on it?
16:53 oleonard      Yeah it is quite broken
16:50 Joubu         when you edit a patron and open/close the form in the header
16:50 Joubu         ho, it's broken!
16:49 Joubu         oleonard: we did a trick with the toolbar that could be reused
16:43 cait          that's not nice
16:43 cait          oleonard: argh.
16:39 oleonard      I add the tag in-page links but they don't work great because the tag you jump to is hidden by the toolbar :|
16:36 cait          i like it better
16:36 cait          oooh
16:36 oleonard      http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/15223413373574
16:24 cait          em_: i'd not say it has a lot of bugs compared to other software, but the best way to help is always to report them
16:20 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16330 new feature, P5 - low, ---, benjamin.rokseth, Pushed to Master , Add routes to add, update and delete patrons
16:20 jenkins       Jonathan Druart: Bug 16330: Remove unecessary Koha::Patron->store method
16:20 jenkins       Project Koha_Master_D8 build #411: STILL UNSTABLE in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/411/
16:19 em_           i know it has a lot of configuration... it is stressful yes but the pdf upload has always been a problem idk why
16:18 * mtompset    points at himself too.
16:17 mtompset      em_, no, it does not have so many bugs. It has a lot of configuration, which people don't spend time to understand.
16:14 em_           ok... i could be wrong..
16:14 cait          but not a 17.11.05
16:14 cait          you probably have a 17.05
16:14 cait          em_: can't be
16:13 huginn        em_: downloading the Perl source
16:13 em_           @cait I already have .05 running system
16:13 em_           its so frustrating to run koha.. it has so many bugs... and every time i need to install a fresh OS to install the entire koha
16:12 em_           yes im going to try that... im installing Ubuntu again so i don't have any problems
16:11 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19898 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Koha 17.11 - Upload Local Cover Image Failed - "Cannot process file as an image"
16:11 Joubu         em_: you do not want to install an older version, please read bug 19898 comment 10 for the workaround
16:11 cait          17.11.04 is the current one: https://koha-community.org/koha-17-11-04-release/
16:11 cait          i think you saw 17.05 something - I got confused myself for a moment
16:11 cait          ooh right
16:10 cait          possibly the packages for .05 have not been uploaded
16:10 Joubu         17.11.04 has been released 3 days ago
16:10 cait          I think there might be ways to avoid that, but that's a sys admin question
16:10 cait          it's expected that with packages you always get the newest version
16:08 em_           also why does it install version 17.11.4 when there is version 17.11.5 available?
16:03 em_           is there a way or command to install a specific version, if so what is it?
16:03 em_           while installing koha it automatically installs the latest version
16:02 reiveune      bye
15:54 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19898 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Koha 17.11 - Upload Local Cover Image Failed - "Cannot process file as an image"
15:54 Joubu         em_: see bug 19898 for a workaround (change in apache config)
15:53 em_           today i'm trying in another system and it doesn't work again!
15:53 em_           well i have installed in another system after several installations it is working now...
15:52 oleonard      I mean, I think it DOES apply to all file types, sorry
15:52 oleonard      em_: I don't think it applies to all file types
15:52 huginn        em_: I suck
15:52 em_           @joubu: i am not trying to upload .jpeg files
15:49 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16330: Remove unecessary Koha::Patron->store method <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=43e57efa523ad05f45eb2ff5dcb928877b3b4209>
15:46 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19898 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Koha 17.11 - Upload Local Cover Image Failed - "Cannot process file as an image"
15:46 Joubu         and bug 19898
15:46 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20428 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , MARC import fails on Debian Stretch
15:46 Joubu         em_: see bug 20428
15:46 em_           what is wrong with it?
15:46 em_           why does this problem always occur every time we install Koha
15:45 em_           why is that I am not able to upload pdf files in the latest koha version 17.11.04?
15:31 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20490 trivial, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Pushed to Master , Correct wrong bug number in comment in Circulation.t
15:31 jenkins       * lari.taskula: Bug 20490: Correct bug number typo in comment in Circulation.t
15:31 jenkins       * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 19784: Adapt /v1/patrons to new naming guidelines
15:31 jenkins       * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 19784: Remove reference to 'borrowernumber' param from other
15:31 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19784 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Adapt /v1/patrons to new naming guidelines
15:31 jenkins       * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 19784: Unit tests for /api/v1/patrons
15:31 jenkins       * josef.moravec: Bug 16330: (QA follow-up) Update usage of search plugin because of bug
15:31 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16330 new feature, P5 - low, ---, benjamin.rokseth, Pushed to Master , Add routes to add, update and delete patrons
15:31 jenkins       * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 16330: Remove validation code from Koha::Patron
15:31 jenkins       * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 16330: (QA follow-up) ModMember requires borrowernumber
15:31 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19488 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jesse, Pushed to Master , Add borrowernumber to brief info on patron details pages in staff client
15:31 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19564 normal, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, Pushed to Master , Fix extraction of sort order from sort condition name
15:31 jenkins       * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 16330: (QA follow-up) Repect guidelines on plurals Patron > Patrons
15:31 jenkins       * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 16330: Move patches to OpenAPI
15:31 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19673 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Patron batch modification tool cannot use authorised value "0"
15:31 jenkins       * benjamin.rokseth: Bug 16330: Add routes to add, update and delete patrons
15:31 jenkins       * katrin.fischer: Bug 19488: (QA follow-up) Fix spelling, remove ()
15:31 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19916 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Can't search keyword or standard ID from Acquisitions external source / z3950
15:31 jenkins       * jesse: Bug 19488: Add borrowernumber to brief info on patron details pages in
15:31 jenkins       * Nick Clemens: Bug 19564: (QA follow-up) Make commented out tests pass
15:31 jenkins       * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19564: Add tests for _convert_sort_fields
15:31 jenkins       * david.gustafsson: Bug 19564: Fix extraction of sort order from sort condition name
15:31 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20330 trivial, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Master , Allow translating more of quote upload
15:31 jenkins       * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19673: Allow to set patron attributes to 0 with batch patron
15:31 jenkins       * Nick Clemens: Bug 19916: Add keyword and standard ID fields to acq external search
15:31 jenkins       * pasi.kallinen: Bug 20330: Allow translating more of quote upload
15:31 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , Speed up '00-strict.t' test
15:31 jenkins       * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18055: The 2 new deps are used for testing purpose
15:31 jenkins       * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 18055: (QA followup) Only print output if DEBUG
15:31 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20455 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Can't sort patron search on date expired
15:31 jenkins       * mtj: Bug 18055: Speed up '00-strict.t' test, with Parallel::ForkManager
15:31 jenkins       * mtj: Bug 18055: Speed up '00-strict.t' test, with Parallel::ForkManager
15:31 jenkins       * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20455: Fix sort patrons by date expired
15:31 jenkins       Project Koha_Master_D8 build #410: UNSTABLE in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/410/
15:29 wahanui       nlegrand: i'm not following you...
15:29 nlegrand      wahanui: :(
15:29 wahanui       !bang
15:29 AnnaBoten     \_o< quack!
15:25 AnnaBoten     The hunt starts now!
15:25 mtompset      !start
15:22 LeeJ          Joubu: roger the note about meetings..hadn't expected a schedule interruption. will go out of my way to make sure it doesn't happen again :)
15:16 kidclamp      Joubu - hah! I just forget we would use the name anywhere - d'oh
15:10 mtompset      Joubu++ # thanks for the git memory refresh. :)
15:09 Joubu         it will delete all untrack files/dir!
15:09 Joubu         git clean [-f -d]
15:07 mtompset      such that all files should match only master.
15:06 mtompset      So if a files from 3.16 leaked in my branch, and I wanted to get rid of them....
15:06 mtompset      what's the git command to delete files which are not in the current branch?
15:02 oleonard      . . . . /(^ x ^)\
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16330: Add routes to add, update and delete patrons <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b8909cb9080216352b0a68564476c8861f7e790>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 18055: (QA followup) Only print output if DEBUG <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0fbc15c9764e5cff1edf8b71d8c0f3370aa8da4>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 19564: Fix extraction of sort order from sort condition name <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e07761f30c576e5f8b275d83ce6dea578148e94>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16330: Move patches to OpenAPI <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dd9b6c165163ac1d6b52df6f2df17ec5de6b2758>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16330: (QA follow-up) Repect guidelines on plurals Patron > Patrons <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c3a273af93dbe64d050190a6cdfb9e9453a9364>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 19784: Unit tests for /api/v1/patrons <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=10de4f437f3ca9f368e52f79ab6fb1b86c916209>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 19784: Remove reference to 'borrowernumber' param from other endpoints <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=87dc9b0ac1db2b689385a5b65e7d1293ea8bca0a>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 19784: Adapt /v1/patrons to new naming guidelines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a7e46047cffbca02d08049729911a274970244f5>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16330: (QA follow-up) ModMember requires borrowernumber <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e36dc18376390d2747ce5d831064146817cd24c9>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16330: Remove validation code from Koha::Patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2183c7a175f1ac3648b7963a5d18dce0cd2936f9>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 19673: Allow to set patron attributes to 0 with batch patron modification <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=444ac690745cb360db852303b1ff461fa8c7175e>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 19564: Add tests for _convert_sort_fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3afd4a7e1aff525d870aef5d4693016885a6dbcf>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 19916: Add keyword and standard ID fields to acq external search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3e7c265acea3e30313d9f824ee27e5391bf71e8>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16330: (QA follow-up) Update usage of search plugin because of bug 19686 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dce823c12255c8d3db3761c30fc04370d3682157>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 19488: Add borrowernumber to brief info on patron details pages in staff client <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae57ac3792d16c546efdd4949c07218e8ccccf0b>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 20330: Allow translating more of quote upload <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c12ddd88d5a3b04faa260a8fbbcc253f7c26c2d>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 19488: (QA follow-up) Fix spelling, remove () <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=275c5bd4fa11c30606d11d7bfb2eab8c0a31ed04>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 19564: (QA follow-up) Make commented out tests pass <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b76ee39d4b3696d9ec7e71cdcc785b2980e10ff>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 18055: The 2 new deps are used for testing purpose <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e2869cb0143a6176e44ff5bf0b4d0dda65be7e2e>
15:02 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 20490: Correct bug number typo in comment in Circulation.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fbf374498bb327b2948904fd8783944ab2a9e389>
15:01 mtompset      AHHHH! I'm hitting a bunny trail of errors to fix.
14:50 mtompset      Joubu++ # awesomeness -- I'm guessing that was it.
14:47 mtompset      oh... seems you are quite busy, Joubu... let's see if that helps first.
14:46 Joubu         I got what you describe before this patch
14:46 mtompset      I'll try that.
14:46 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20480 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Fix styling issues on bad SCI/SCO module logins
14:46 Joubu         bug 20480:
14:46 mtompset      I just did a fresh destroy/up
14:46 mtompset      every js and css just _ without a release.
14:45 Joubu         git fetch?
14:45 mtompset      UGLY result.
14:45 mtompset      enter a userid and password
14:45 mtompset      click login -- looks nice modal.
14:45 mtompset      localhost:8081 looks nice.
14:44 mtompset      KOHA_VERSION isn't being passed for some reason to opac-bottom.inc
14:44 mtompset      Joubu, I've tried tweaking my apache configuration, and it is still broken.
14:42 oleonard      Joubu: I find the calendar very helpful
14:40 Joubu         (read: I will not do it next time ;))
14:40 Joubu         thanks!
14:40 Joubu         updating the calendar, next meeting page, and each meeting pages is very time consuming
14:40 Joubu         Next time a meeting does not take place, could you take least start the meeting, schedule a new date, then end the meeting? It will create the minute and the script will take care of everything
14:25 wahanui       i think apache config is the only thing that would've been different
14:25 Joubu         apache config
14:22 mtompset      Hmm... maybe login is broken?
14:21 mtompset      OH! maybe it's just the opac-user page.
14:21 mtompset      no release info.
14:21 mtompset      foobar_.(js|css)
14:20 mtompset      everything is 404'ing.
14:20 oleonard      mtompset: Clear browser cache if you haven't already, and verify with view source that the problem is the paths to CSS and JS
14:19 mtompset      My OPAC is still yucky.
14:19 mtompset      That only fixed my intranet
14:19 * mtompset    frowns.
14:15 mtompset      oleonard++ # thanks for the reset_all suggestion.
14:15 * mtompset    cheers!
14:12 mtompset      ^me^my^
14:11 mtompset      Thanks, Joubu. :( I just wanted me patch to pass.
14:11 cait          the ones with caramel?
14:11 * oleonard    will bring Girl Scout cookies
14:11 huginn        mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 19 minutes and 27 seconds ago: <Joubu> @later tell mtompset It looks like you have time to spend on the Readonly module, so maybe you should tackle 16588 directly
14:11 mtompset      @seen Joubu
14:11 cait          i am having a qa day tomorrow - will put it on the list :)
14:11 cait          i will see if i can and make sure everything is properly reloaded
14:11 mtompset      Okay. I'll attempt a reset_all too.
14:10 cait          instead of breaking at the width of the toolbar
14:10 oleonard      Thanks cait. I remembered seeing that issue while I worked on the bug, but can't reproduce it now.
14:10 cait          basically the title ran all over the page, longer than the toolbar
14:10 cait          oleonard: i saw, iwll make a screnshot
14:10 oleonard      I think I may have had to do a reset_all (with a db backup on hand) when I encountered that problem with a fresh box
14:08 mtompset      still no cigar.
14:08 mtompset      I copied the debian/template files over...
14:08 mtompset      I just vagrant destroyed and vagrant up'd my kohadevbox, and -- yes, because of that.
14:08 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Force browser to load new JavaScript and CSS files after upgrade
14:08 oleonard      mtompset: Stemming from Bug 12904 perhaps?
14:07 mtompset      And greeting to you as well, oleonard. :)
14:07 mtompset      oleonard, have you any problems with JS/CSS ugliness with your kohadevbox?
14:07 oleonard      Hi mtompset
14:07 mtompset      Greetings, #koha
14:04 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Switch single-column templates to Bootstrap grid: Cataloging
14:04 oleonard      cait did you see my comment on Bug 20044? I wasn't able to reproduce the problem you reported.
13:52 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
13:52 Joubu         @later tell mtompset It looks like you have time to spend on the Readonly module, so maybe you should tackle 16588 directly
13:19 oleonard      marcelr: What we need is an itemtype-based rule
13:18 marcelr       allowreturn... ?
13:18 LeeJ          oleonard: I don't believe so. If I recall, there's a sys pref for allowing all items to be checked in at home library but I think that's as specific as it gets
13:17 oleonard      As far as I can tell the answer is no, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something
13:16 LeeJ          hmm..
13:15 oleonard      Is it possible to configure circ rules so that a particular item type can only be checked in at its home library?
13:09 wahanui       it has been said that marcelr is talking with tcohen about it
13:09 tcohen        marcelr?
13:00 LeeJ          :D
13:00 eythian       thanks tcohen, LeeJ :D
12:51 LeeJ          wooo! happy birthday eythian!
12:50 tcohen        happy bday, eythian
12:50 LeeJ          hi tcohen
12:50 tcohen        hi LeeJ
12:43 LeeJ          hi #koha
12:43 * LeeJ        waves
12:32 kidclamp      oh, hah, it is commented out in both lines
12:31 kidclamp      does anyone know what z3950authortemplate is for? I guess it is a local syspref?
12:02 * cait        waves
12:01 * oleonard    brb
11:49 wahanui       hi dear loon
11:49 josef_moravec hi oleonard
11:45 oleonard      Hi #koha
11:10 marcelr       hi eythian
11:09 eythian       hoi marcelr
11:00 marcelr       o/
11:00 josef_moravec hi marcelr
11:00 marcelr       hi #koha
10:00 nlegrand      ^^
10:00 cait          it#s not really something you need more opionions on right now i think - more something that you and alex can work out
09:59 nlegrand      cait: thanks :)
09:59 cait          failed qa gets more attention
09:59 cait          because of your comment - in discussion gets easily lost
09:59 cait          looking
09:54 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20273 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Failed QA , Elasticsearch: Auth-finder.pl autocomplete must use search_auth_compat
09:54 nlegrand      cait: why did you Failed QA Bug 20273?
09:11 * nlegrand    ondule
08:51 cait          eythian: bad pick on your part then ;)
07:34 gaetan_B      hello
07:25 eythian       cait: we only get one easter holiday here, because I don't know why. This country can't do holidays right.
07:11 wahanui       the only good morning is a dead one
07:11 ere           cait: Good morning!
07:00 cait          bit grey,... but it's the day before easter holidays :)
06:51 eythian       are you sure?
06:51 cait          good morning #koha!
06:50 alex_a        bonjour
06:39 wahanui       privet, reiveune
06:39 reiveune      hello
06:19 matteo        no habla español. Good day
06:18 wahanui       que tal, matteo
06:18 matteo        hi
06:16 cait          hi fridolin :)
05:48 fridolin      hie tehre
04:22 mtompset      Have a good day. #koha.
03:58 mtompset      for their opac on kohadevbox.
03:58 mtompset      Anyone getting a crappy CSS load?
03:58 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
02:11 matteo        hello
02:11 matteo        hellp