Time Nick Message 02:13 jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #28: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/28/ 02:13 jenkins * oleonard: Bug 20135: Prevent staff client language choose pop-up from appearing 02:13 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19671: Map itemtypes to hash for correct display in issues_stats.pl 02:13 jenkins * alex.arnaud: Bug 4319: [OPAC] Allow holds on waiting/transit items 02:13 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20135 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Staff client language choose pop-up can appear off-screen 02:13 jenkins * m.de.rooy: Bug 4319: (QA follow-up) Consistency in IsAvailableForItemLevelRequest 02:13 jenkins * m.de.rooy: Bug 4319: (QA follow-up) Use ReservableItems in all scripts 02:13 jenkins * alex.arnaud: Bug 4319: (QA follow-up) Rename hasItemswaitingOrInTransit to 02:13 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19671 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Circulation wizard / issues_stats.pl does not populate itemtype descriptions correctly 02:13 jenkins * kyle: Bug 19530: Prevent multiple transfers from existing for one item 02:13 jenkins * mtompset: Bug 19530: Added commentary for last test when prove -v 02:13 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4319 major, P2, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Master , waiting and in transit items cannot be reserved 02:13 jenkins * kyle: Bug 19530: Don't update the date arrived for closed transfers 02:13 jenkins * m.de.rooy: Bug 20227: Check for categorycode in default_borrower_circ_rules 02:13 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19530 normal, P1 - high, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Prevent multiple transfers from existing for one item 02:13 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20227 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , admin/smart-rules.pl should pass categorycode instead of branchcode 02:13 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18975: Retrieve up-to-date CGISESSID when just logged in 02:13 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19978: Fix ITEMTYPECAT behaviour 02:13 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18975 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Wrong CSRF token when emailing cart contents 02:13 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19978 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Fix ITEMTYPECAT feature for grouping item types for search 03:03 wizzyrea never mind we figured it out 03:04 wizzyrea the moral of the story is: don't leave any big viles in your kohadevbox directory, cuz they get rsynced to the devbox when it's provisioned, potentially not leaving space for your real git clone. 06:05 fridolin can somebody test this trivial Bug 20131 06:05 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20131 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Inventory optional filters always shows "For loan" for value 0 06:05 fridolin in exchange of my eternel consideration and admiration ;) 06:52 drojf hi #koha 07:32 reiveune hello 07:35 marcelr hi #koha 07:35 magnuse o/ 07:36 * LibraryClaire waves 07:38 reiveune hello 07:38 wahanui hello, reiveune 07:42 josef_moravec hi marcelr magnuse LibraryClaire reiveune 07:42 reiveune \o_ 07:42 LibraryClaire hi josef_moravec 07:43 magnuse hiya josef_moravec LibraryClaire reiveune 07:43 LibraryClaire hi magnuse 07:43 wahanui kamelÃ¥sÃ¥ 07:43 reiveune salut magnuse 07:51 alex_a bonjour 07:51 wahanui privet, alex_a 07:52 eythian https://i.redd.it/ykfh5p0syph01.jpg <-- I took this photo on the way into work this morning 07:59 marcelr eythian: something went wrong there 08:26 gaetan_B hello 08:29 tuxayo ho #koha o/ 08:29 tuxayo *hi 08:29 eythian marcelr: perhaps they're experimenting with more under-canal parking. Only, this experiment failed. 08:29 marcelr wonder if they got a parking fine? 08:30 marcelr hi tuxayo 08:30 marcelr and gaetan_B 08:30 wahanui well, gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons 08:32 tuxayo hi marcelr 08:47 magnuse marcelr: what is the thing the car drove off? a house built into the canal? or some weird houseboat? 08:47 marcelr kind of woonboot (houseboat?) 08:47 eythian it's a woonboot yeah 08:47 eythian though, I don't think the car drove off it 08:48 marcelr no 08:48 eythian I think it came from the side I was on 08:48 eythian http://www.at5.nl/artikelen/178817/auto-te-water-in-keizersgracht- at5 is speculating 08:48 magnuse ah, ok 08:48 marcelr handrem.. 08:53 magnuse handbrake? 08:53 wahanui handbrake is a software application that can convert MPEG video (including DVD-Video) into a MPEG-4 video file in .mp4, .avi, .ogm, or .mkv containers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HandBrake 08:54 magnuse ok wahanui 08:54 marcelr yes 09:11 * cait waves 09:15 magnuse kia ora cait! 09:15 josef_moravec hi cait 09:16 cait :) 09:41 tuxayo Upgrade to 17.12.00.016 done (Bug 18336 - Convert DB tables to utf8mb4 💩) 09:41 tuxayo â¤ï¸â¤ï¸â¤ï¸â¤ï¸â¤ï¸â¤ï¸â¤ï¸â¤ï¸â¤ï¸â¤ï¸â¤ï¸â¤ï¸ 09:41 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18336 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Add support for Unicode supplementary characters 09:42 cait i think we really should replace that icon 09:42 paxed i wish we could change the default collate too during install. 09:42 cait osmeone willing to do a patch? :) 09:43 cait paxed: what do you mean? 09:43 paxed cait: the default database collate rule, utf8_unicode_ci, works for most languages, but for eg. finnish, it sorts the alphabet wrong 09:44 paxed usually seen when you go catalogue a new record and have frameworks with 'ä' or 'ö', or if you have patrons with surnames starting with those letters 09:46 cait interesting 09:46 wahanui interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad 09:46 cait maybe file a bug for that? it seems a good suggestion! 09:47 paxed the collate can be changed afterwards, but still, it's annoying 09:48 cait alex_a++ 09:49 josef_moravec paxed, cait: now it is based on settings of mysql server in your system (my.cnf) which is utf8_unicode_ci on most servers I think 09:49 alex_a cait: you can reproduce what i'm talking about in BZ 19582? 09:50 cait not sure my elastic search is working right onw 09:50 paxed josef_moravec: kohastructure.sql explicitly says COLLATE=utf8mb4_unicode_ci, so doesn't that override it? 09:51 magnuse paxed: this is a problem in norway and sweden too 09:51 josef_moravec yes it definitely override it 09:51 magnuse ooh, look at the easy signoff on bug 11936 09:51 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11936 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Consistent log message for item insert 09:51 paxed magnuse: yup 09:51 josef_moravec and that is the reason it has to be always defined in kohastructure.sql, to be sure it is right 09:51 cait alex_a: hm switching on elastic - search not working 09:52 cait i'd like to learn more about the elastic serach implementatin - maybein marseille? 09:52 josef_moravec but could be maybe fine to set the default charset and collation on database level... 09:52 alex_a cait: now you are sure your elasticsearch doesn't work 09:53 cait yeah, but i'd like it better if it did :) 09:53 josef_moravec but the you are right, thet unicode_ci is not always best for same langauges (Czech too) 09:53 alex_a cait: i will help you to set it up in Marseille if you want 09:54 magnuse but a server might have instances that need different collations 09:54 magnuse could it be an option to do it via an sql file in the language specific folders below installer/data/mysql/? 09:56 cait alex_a: i just added a topic to the hackfest file :) 09:56 alex_a cait++ 09:56 cait i think others will be interested too and i'd like to be mor ehelpful in testing patches 09:57 cait @later tell oleonard stealing my easy bugs? ;) 09:57 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 10:15 * tuxayo loves git bisect 10:17 * cait too 10:36 fridolin dpkg? 10:36 wahanui it has been said that dpkg is a wonderful thing once you coax it out from within its grumpy shell 10:54 tuxayo Now even if one's breaks Koha's CSS, the staff interface still has a decent look https://screenshots.firefox.com/iNdKgL69i4tYUkqP/koha-master 11:10 cait true :) 11:54 jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #29: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/29/ 11:54 jenkins * unknown: Translation updates for Koha 17.11.03 11:54 jenkins * Nick Clemens: Increment version for 17.11.03 release 11:54 jenkins * Nick Clemens: Update release notes for 17.11.03 release 12:22 cait kidclamp++ 12:39 oleonard Hi all 12:40 tcohen hi oleonard 12:40 wahanui hi olé onard 12:41 LibraryClaire hi oleonard 12:41 wahanui hi olé onard 12:54 Joubu kidclamp, khall: can you take a look at bug 19008 comment 25 please? 12:54 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19008 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Failed QA , More database cleanups 12:55 Joubu or any English native speakers around 13:01 kidclamp commented Joubu 13:01 Joubu thanks kidclamp 13:02 eythian kidclamp spells catalogue wrong, remember. 13:02 kidclamp 'catalog-way' is always how I read that 13:02 tuxayo What is a POD? (It's mentioned few times in bug 19008) 13:02 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19008 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Failed QA , More database cleanups 13:03 oleonard kidclamp++ 13:03 LibraryClaire lol 13:05 Joubu tuxayo, fridolin: in the context of bug 20259, did you see bug 12904 comment 117? 13:05 fridolin ah oki thaks 13:05 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20259 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Shorter JS and CSS rewrite rule 13:05 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Force browser to load new JavaScript and CSS files after upgrade 13:05 fridolin Joubu: ah nope i look 13:06 fridolin Joubu: "query parameters don't necessarily bypass the cache" ? i dont see the link 13:06 Joubu tuxayo: POD==doc 13:06 fridolin with shorter regexp 13:06 eythian Plain Old Documentation 13:07 Joubu fridolin: then read the 3 comments above 13:08 marcelr tuxayo: and PVOD is very old :) 13:10 paxed magnuse: see bug 20269 13:10 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20269 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Allow selecting default collate rule 13:12 Joubu paxed: we usually resort things in perl or via the DataTables JS plugin 13:13 Joubu IIRC it does not work for éèçà either 13:24 tcohen marcelr: merge_authorities.pl is a mandatory cron but not added automatically by the packages? 13:25 marcelr tcohen: merge_authorities 13:25 marcelr debian/koha-common.cron.daily 13:26 tcohen right 13:26 tcohen shouldn't it be immediate? 13:26 marcelr what do you mean 13:27 tcohen the merge, scheduled to be ran in a shorter term? 13:27 marcelr you have pref controlling it 13:27 marcelr mergelimit 13:27 marcelr or something 13:27 wahanui somebody said something was fishy 13:28 marcelr it is either immediate or postponed 13:28 blou Holà #koha 13:28 marcelr the idea is merge 2000 recs at night 13:28 marcelr hi blou 13:28 blou Hi marcel! 13:28 blou Hi marcelr! 13:28 marcelr :) 13:29 blou Sorry to barge in: anyone can direct me to the script that "rebuilds the marcxml from the database content" ? 13:29 khall mornin all! 13:29 marcelr blou: should be the other way 13:29 tuxayo eythian: thanks :) 13:29 marcelr hi khall 13:30 marcelr blou: marcxml should be leading 13:31 blou User messed up, deleted stuff. I recovered the items table, but the marcxml has been modified to reflect records without items. Now I have the items, DB is ok, but the marcxml can't be indexed 13:31 blou Yeah, the other way around, I could use batchRebuildItemsTables.pl 13:32 marcelr backup and partial recovery..? 13:32 blou yeah.... I'm lazy :) 13:33 marcelr but items are no longer in the xml 13:33 blou I have older backups 13:33 blou got all i need, i think. Beside that the status fields might have been modififed since, which makes it ugly 13:34 marcelr kind of dangerous 13:34 marcelr but you are in a bad situation then 13:34 blou *sigh* 13:35 marcelr copy the marcxml from the old record and run touch biblios, that kind of approach ? 13:50 blou I'lll try that, marcelr 13:50 marcelr be careful ;) 13:58 tuxayo @seen kidclamp 13:58 huginn` tuxayo: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 55 minutes and 15 seconds ago: <kidclamp> 'catalog-way' is always how I read that 13:58 kidclamp hi tuxayo 14:01 tuxayo kidclamp: hi :) Can you confirm in bug 13560 if my tests seem enough for you? My uncertainly about that might deter a QA member to take this bug. 14:01 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13560 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , need an add option in marc modification templates 14:04 kidclamp ideally you would test all the options just to ensure I didn't break anything unintentionally, but if any other option worked it would seem features are intact 14:32 * cait waves 14:33 oleonard Hi cait 14:33 cait hi oleonard :) 14:34 oleonard cait: Those easy bugs were too tempting when it was the end of the day and my brain was fried 14:34 cait it's alright :) 14:35 cait the typo one has been annoying me forever 14:35 cait bbiab :) 14:46 tuxayo kidclamp: thanks 15:07 paxed Joubu: well, there's the framework names, and i believe patron names, that are affected by this. 15:08 magnuse and library names in the items table, according to one swedish library 15:08 * magnuse wanders off 15:10 Joubu paxed: patrons yes, we cannot sort them after they have been retrieved from the DB 15:13 paxed (we've got 3 frameworkcode names that start with 'Ä', and the cataloguers are annoyed) 15:19 paxed magnuse: ah, didn't know that. we don't have any libraries with names starting with The Wrong Kind of letter :P 16:16 reiveune bye 17:06 Joubu it's a feature 17:06 Joubu ha no, it's a bug 17:06 Joubu ha... no ... it's a feature 17:06 Joubu maybe... 17:06 wahanui maybe is a momentaneous error 17:06 Joubu :) 17:07 Joubu I get " 17:07 Joubu Username/password already exists. 17:07 Joubu " 17:07 Joubu when I create a patron without userid 17:08 Joubu the message is wrong, but what is supposed to be the behaviour? 17:11 Joubu ha... it only happens when surname/firstname are not filled 17:13 tcohen Joubu: what are you talking about? 17:15 Joubu create a patron "organisation": you will not see the firstname field 17:15 Joubu fill surname, and leave blank "userid/login" 17:15 Joubu you will get "Username/password already exists" 17:39 tuxayo bye #koha o/ 17:59 * LeeJ waves 17:59 LeeJ hi #koha 18:28 tcohen later #koha 18:34 Joubu @later tell tcohen: t/db_dependent/Koha/Object.t is expecting Koha::Exceptions::Object::FKConstraint if Koha::Patron->store is called with a non-existing category, but t/db_dependent/Members.t expect a Koha::Exceptions::BadParameter if AddMember is called with a non-existing cat... Hum? :-/ 18:34 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 20:44 bag cait++ 20:45 cait hm? 20:45 bag because you’re awesome 20:46 LeeJ I agree with bag 20:46 cait now i feel super guilty for not doing any qa today - thx ;) 20:46 bag @roulette 20:46 huginn` bag: *click* 20:47 * cait takes it away from bag 20:50 kidclamp @roulette 20:50 huginn` kidclamp: *click* 20:50 kidclamp @roulette 20:50 huginn` *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! 20:50 * huginn` reloads and spins the chambers. 20:50 kidclamp @roulette 20:50 huginn` kidclamp: *click* 20:50 kidclamp @roulette 20:50 huginn` kidclamp: *click* 20:50 kidclamp @roulette 20:50 huginn` kidclamp: *click* 20:51 kidclamp blanks, yeesh, what's a guy go to do to get kicked 20:54 * LeeJ realizes the time and scrambles to get ready 20:54 Joubu @dice 2d6 20:54 huginn` Joubu: 4 and 4 20:55 Joubu less dangerous than roulette.... 20:55 LeeJ @dice 1d20 20:55 huginn` LeeJ: 1 20:55 LeeJ >_> 20:55 Joubu lol 20:55 LeeJ if that was a save roll I'd be dead 20:55 cait @dice 1d20 20:55 huginn` cait: 8 20:55 cait paralyzed 20:55 Joubu @dice 1d20 20:55 huginn` Joubu: 7 20:55 LeeJ @dice 1d20 20:55 huginn` LeeJ: 7 20:55 LeeJ COME ON 20:55 Joubu @dice 1d20 20:55 huginn` Joubu: 14 20:55 cait @dice 1d20 20:55 huginn` cait: 6 20:55 cait ... 20:56 cait i have flashbacks 20:56 * LeeJ thinks we should start a tradition of rolling initiative at the start of IRC meetings 20:56 Joubu what would happen to the looser? 20:56 cait that woudl make chairing hard for me :) 20:56 LeeJ haha 20:57 Joubu has to signoff 10 patches 20:57 cait 20! 20:57 LeeJ oh dear..what have I done lol 20:57 LeeJ though that IS one way to get people active ;) 20:58 LeeJ I'll wait 5 minutes to give people time to filter in :) 21:01 * LeeJ shuffles notecards 21:02 LeeJ yes 21:03 * cait is here 21:04 LeeJ yayy 21:04 LeeJ I'll give 1 more minute for the late-comers..because I've been one of them :P 21:05 jenkins Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #98: SUCCESS in 2 hr 13 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_16.11_D8/98/ 21:05 jenkins Jonathan Druart: Bug 19847: Track links within the records and 404 for others 21:05 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19847 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , tracklinks.pl accepts any url from a parameter for proxying 21:07 LeeJ kellym: hi :) I noticed in gitlab that you had submitted a merge request..rangi had commented that it might need to be rebased. Didn't know if you got the message about his comment :) 21:08 LeeJ okay..we've waited long enough I think 21:08 Joubu yep 21:08 LeeJ #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 22 February 2018 21:08 huginn` Meeting started Thu Feb 22 21:08:35 2018 UTC. The chair is LeeJ. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:08 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:08 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_22_february_2018' 21:08 kellym leej I didn’t get the message ! That merge request was from awhile ago! 21:08 kellym thanks! leej 21:09 LeeJ kellym my pleasure! :) 21:09 LeeJ #topic Introductions 21:09 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 21:09 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ Germany 21:09 LeeJ #info Lee Jamison, Marywood University 21:09 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro (Canada) 21:09 georgew #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System 21:09 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 21:09 kellym #info kelly mcelligott bywater solutions 21:09 rangi #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT, NZ 21:09 m23_ # Michal Denar, KohaCZ 21:10 LeeJ hi all and welcome to the meeting...again, sorry about the last one. That was on me :) 21:10 LeeJ everyone present and accounted for? 21:10 LeeJ cool 21:10 LeeJ #topic What's been done so far 21:11 LeeJ Joubu: I'm going to assume you may have news about the help files? 21:11 Joubu nope, I do not 21:11 LeeJ okay 21:11 Joubu bug 19817 is in discussion 21:11 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19817 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Merge local and online documentations 21:11 LeeJ does anyone have any updates, news, etc.? 21:12 Joubu I wanted to provide patches to have something ready for 18.05, but without feedbacks I cannot 21:12 LeeJ #info Bug 19817 is still in discussion. Joubu wants to provide patches for 18.05 but needs feedback from the community to do so 21:13 LeeJ #topic Workflows 21:14 LeeJ okay..so it appears as though some/most who have a desire to help write documentation don't understand the gitlab workflow 21:14 LeeJ so I'm prepared to offer a Zoom session/webinar to anyone interested in order to help 21:14 georgew I'd be interested 21:14 cait LeeJ++ 21:14 kellym leej i would say at one meeting awhile back it was talked about creating a vidoe about the process 21:14 kellym yes I would be interested leej especially adding images to the manual 21:15 cait there is a video linked on the wiki page: edit manual? 21:15 cait editing manual? 21:15 cait editing the manual? 21:15 wahanui somebody said editing the manual was https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual 21:15 LeeJ kellym: yes I remember that meeting note. I had actually thought about it and realized it might be more effective having a recorded webinar to work from 21:16 kellym definitely! yes there is a video on adding content but not adding images. I had problems with the steps on the wiki…so I would love a webinar leej 21:16 cait ah yep :) 21:16 LeeJ I figured I'd take a page out of BWS' playbook :) 21:16 kellym great idea! leej 21:16 Joubu kellym: what kind of images do you want to add? 21:16 kellym leej++ 21:17 kellym screenshots 21:17 wahanui screenshots are best 21:17 Joubu of Koha? 21:17 Joubu Seen my emails to the list about manual screenshots? 21:17 wahanui I haven't seen 'my', Joubu 21:17 kellym yes screenshots of koha. it was also discussed to have images/screenshots of koha without customizations. 21:17 LeeJ #info LeeJ will send out an email the week of February 26th to determine the best meeting time for a webinar 21:17 kellym joubu I don’t remember seeing an email- can you send it to me? kelly@bywatersolutions.com 21:18 Joubu https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2018-January/049807.html 21:18 kellym thanks joubu 21:18 LeeJ thanks for bringing that up kellym! Joubu, do we have a written policy in place about using non-customized Koha for images/screenshots? I don't recall seeing one 21:19 m23_ what about screenshots in other languages in manual? 21:19 Joubu the idea was to provide a way to generate screenshot automatically 21:19 LeeJ ahh 21:19 Joubu which would lead to autogenerated screenshots, updated from one version of Koha to another, and for any languages 21:19 Joubu m23_: same link 21:20 Joubu nobody reads my emails :-/ 21:20 cait LeeJ: we agreed on it at the last meeting 21:20 cait but i don't think we put it on the wiki 21:20 m23_ some languages are longer, other shorter .. how solve this in automatic way? 21:20 LeeJ #info https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2018-January/049807.html contains information about the idea of automatically generating screenshots 21:20 LeeJ cait: right..now it's coming back to me :) 21:21 Joubu we screenshot boxes (with class or id), so the sizes can vary 21:21 Joubu boxes == HTML elements 21:21 LeeJ #info LeeJ will add the policy to the wiki of using non-customized Koha screenshots for documentation to keep documentation images uniform 21:21 cait LeeJ: do you want me to add a note on the wiki? 21:21 cait ah :) 21:21 cait even better 21:21 wahanui even better is what oleopard said just after that 21:22 m23_ It can work, I think 21:22 LeeJ alright..I think that covers what I had in mind. I plan on also covering information on the kanban during the zoom webinar 21:22 kellym leej do you think there should be something about standard size of images also? 21:22 m23_ how we can help with it? 21:22 Joubu m23_: it works 21:22 wahanui For now... 21:23 Joubu lol 21:23 LeeJ kellym: that would make sense to me..however are there any cases (wide pages, etc.) where uniform image sizes would make the screenshot unreadable? 21:23 kellym yes true- leej 21:24 LeeJ Joubu and cait..what are your thoughts on requiring a uniform screenshot size? 21:24 Joubu maybe you should just read my emails 21:25 cait i am not sure - maybe only a max size? 21:25 Joubu there are examples for ar, en, es, it, pt_BR and zh_TW 21:25 Joubu for the first screenshots I generated automatically 21:25 * LeeJ feels sheepish 21:25 Joubu there are links to the different manuals at the end of the email 21:26 Joubu http://download.koha-community.org/manual/wip_screenshots/ar/html/02_administration.html 21:26 Joubu for instance 21:26 LeeJ I see 21:27 caroline Joubu, you should send emails to the general mailing list. I notice this one is the bugs mailing list? 21:27 Joubu it's the general mailing list 21:28 LeeJ hmm 21:29 LeeJ well I am willing to help with what I can per that mailing list email Joubu 21:29 LeeJ I just realized I don't remember seeing it because I had my bugs list filtered to a folder 21:29 LeeJ but let me know what you need me to do and I'll be more than happy to 21:30 rangi has anyone mentioned the manuals are automatically updated now, as soon as changes are merged, it rebuilds all the languages 21:31 LeeJ rangi: not that I can recollect..? But that's fantastic 21:31 rangi for 18.05 and 17.11 21:31 rangi https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/zh_TW/html/ 21:31 rangi https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/en/html/ 21:31 rangi etc 21:31 LeeJ #info the manuals are automatically updated now since 18.05 and 17.11. As soon as changes are merged, it rebuilds all the languages 21:32 LeeJ that's very convenient 21:32 LeeJ anyone have anything else? :) 21:32 rangi yeah it allows people to see if the changes they made look good 21:32 LeeJ okay..moving on then 21:32 LeeJ #topic Next steps 21:33 LeeJ To summarize (please point out if I've missed something)... 21:33 LeeJ uhh 21:34 kellym what happened? 21:34 LeeJ no clue.. 21:34 rangi netsplit 21:34 LeeJ ooh 21:34 georgew irc apocalypse 21:34 LeeJ I'll wait until people come back 21:35 LeeJ ..if they do :O 21:35 LeeJ don't you mean a splitpocalypse georgew? :) 21:36 Joubu back? 21:36 wahanui and forth. 21:36 Joubu pfiou 21:36 LeeJ some never left it seems 21:36 LeeJ that was weird..I've never been here for that. 21:36 Joubu rangi: What I said: but pootle is not updated 21:37 rangi nope, that needs to be automated too 21:37 * cait waves 21:37 cait sorry got disconnected 21:38 georgew _everybody_ got disconnected 21:39 LeeJ so to summarize... Joubu needs help from the community to work on getting the documentation/help files/screenshots automated, etc. I'll be sending out an email next week to coordinate a webinar on kohadocs as well as I'll add our dediced policies about non-customized Koha to be used for all screenshots 21:39 LeeJ did I miss anything? 21:39 Joubu LeeJ: for the automated screenshots: I need to know if what I suggest is a possible solution 21:40 Joubu i.e. does the syntax make sense for people without technical skills 21:41 LeeJ #info read over the information at this link https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2018-January/049807.html and let Joubu know if what he suggests is a possible solution (i.e. does the syntax make sense for people without technical skills). Notify Joubu ASAP 21:41 cait it got lost in the netsplit 21:41 cait but what about the screenshots we can't generate? 21:42 cait pages that are not koha, enhanced content (needs keys etc) 21:42 Joubu let start with the ones we can generate :) 21:42 cait ok 21:42 caroline What about new features? How do we say to add a screenshot for this or that if it isn't already in the manual? 21:43 LeeJ caroline: that's definitely a topic I want to cover in the zoom webinar I'll be scheduling! 21:43 caroline yes, but will they be automated? Is that something you will cover in the webinar? 21:44 LeeJ #info also it's critical to provide feedback on Bug 19817 for Joubu 21:44 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19817 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Merge local and online documentations 21:44 LeeJ I think that's something I might have to sort out with Joubu 21:45 LeeJ caroline: I don't have an exact answer at the moment, but as soon as I do have an answer I'll relay it to everyone 21:45 LeeJ okay...I think everything's been covered 21:46 caroline ok, I was just mentionning it so we think about it, not to get an answer today 21:46 LeeJ unless anyone has last minute additions? 21:46 LeeJ caroline: I know :) and the input/reminder is appreciated! 21:46 caroline :) 21:47 LeeJ okay..since no one has anything further 21:47 LeeJ #topic Set time of next meeting 21:49 LeeJ alright..I think because the May release gaining on us quickly perhaps the 2nd week of March..any conflicting holidays? 21:49 Joubu may be good/bad during the hackfest? 21:49 LeeJ do you know the dates of hackfest? 21:50 LeeJ I wanna go to it next year :( 21:50 Joubu 12 to 16 21:50 wahanui 184884258895036416 21:50 LeeJ hmm 21:51 LeeJ then we can just schedule it for the week after hackfest 21:51 Joubu can be good during the hackfest :) 21:51 LeeJ ooh good point 21:51 Joubu French tz is utc+2 21:52 LeeJ haha you read my mind. I was JUST going to ask 21:52 Joubu CET is UTC+1 actually 21:52 cait i think the timing would be bad for the hackfest 21:53 Joubu people could learn about documentation related stuffs? 21:53 cait we could try, but depends on other presentations being during the same time or lunch :) 21:54 LeeJ was there an itinerary sent out via email? 21:54 cait it's barcamp style 21:54 cait bit unpredictable until it happens 21:55 LeeJ oooh 21:55 LeeJ hmm..maybe we should just shoot for March 22nd? 21:55 LeeJ gives people time to get home/recover from hackfest 21:56 LeeJ March 22nd @ 14 UTC sound good? 21:56 cait works for me 21:57 kellym it doesn’t work for me - but could you record leej? 21:57 LeeJ kellym: the 22nd would be for the next documentation IRC meeting 21:57 LeeJ the webinar will be separate :) 21:57 kellym oh okay - that is fine 21:57 LeeJ sounds good! 21:58 LeeJ #info Next meeting: 22 March 2018, 14 UTC 21:58 LeeJ #endmeeting 21:58 huginn` Meeting ended Thu Feb 22 21:58:38 2018 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 21:58 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/documentation_irc_meeting_22_february_2018.2018-02-22-21.08.html 21:58 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/documentation_irc_meeting_22_february_2018.2018-02-22-21.08.txt 21:58 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/documentation_irc_meeting_22_february_2018.2018-02-22-21.08.log.html 21:58 LeeJ thanks for joining today everyone :) 22:00 kellym thanks leej 22:01 LeeJ no, thank YOU kellym :) 22:27 cait Joubu: still aroundẞ 22:27 cait ? 22:30 Joubu cait: more or less 22:30 cait would you have a moment to look at something with me? 22:30 Joubu qhoot 22:30 Joubu shoot 22:30 cait bug 20067 22:30 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20067 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Authorised values for ORDER_CANCELLATION_REASON are displayed on notice (catalogue/detail.pl) 22:30 cait i pasted the code where the problem is in the last comment 22:31 cait hm ignore the data dumper line 22:31 cait that's frm me trying to figure things out 22:31 cait it returns 1 22:33 cait the problem is i think that authorised_value is "" 22:33 cait and we are only checking for null possibly? 22:35 cait still there? 22:35 wahanui there is one... but i don't know it 23:18 jenkins Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #99: SUCCESS in 2 hr 12 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_16.11_D8/99/ 23:18 jenkins * josef.moravec: Bug 19738: Fix XSS on vendor name in serials module 23:18 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19560: Correctly escape branchcode in admin/branches.pl 23:18 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19738 minor, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Stable , XSS in serials module 23:18 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19911: Do not escape html characters when saving passwords 23:18 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19911: Escape password value during self-registration confirmation 23:18 jenkins * chrisc: Increment version for the 16.11.16 release 23:18 jenkins * unknown: Translation updates for Koha 16.11.16 23:18 jenkins * chrisc: Release notes for 16.11.16 23:18 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19560 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Unable to delete library when branchcode contains special characters 23:18 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19911 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Passwords displayed to user during self-registration are not HTML-encoded 23:27 cait $mss = Koha::MarcSubfieldStructures->search({ frameworkcode => $fw, kohafield => 'items.materials', authorised_value => { not => undef } }); ... if someone has an idea 23:27 cait i am trying to add another condition authorised_value !=""