Time Nick Message 07:47 alex_a bonjour 09:41 cait good morning #koha! 10:11 magnuse o/ 10:15 cait tcohen: why are you awake? 10:19 tcohen Manuel 10:19 tcohen Still has fever 10:20 cait oh no :( 10:20 cait hope he feels better soon 10:20 cait the patron api bug is in SO = ready for QA - was wondering if we should wait for you to finish your patch and QA them together 10:35 magnuse fever-- 10:51 tcohen cait, of we can QA it, better. I just implemented some changes we agreed with Joubu. I will implement the RFC today 11:02 cait ? 12:45 tcohen cait: no need to test them together, that's what I meant 12:45 cait ah 12:45 tcohen the bug itself needs some specific tests 12:47 tcohen we need to get rid of biblio-level itypes 12:51 cait tcohen: i am not following 12:51 tcohen bug 16330 can be tested on its own 12:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16330 new feature, P5 - low, ---, benjamin.rokseth, Signed Off , REST API: add routes to add, update and delete patrons 12:51 tcohen bug 19784 I'm working on it, and testing it wil mean checking it matches the RFC 12:52 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19784 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Adapt /v1/patrons to new naming guidelines 12:52 tcohen bug 19884 makes me think we should get rid of biblio-level itypes 12:52 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19884 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, NEW , Improve performance of GetItem 12:52 cait ah! 12:53 cait yeah 12:53 tcohen there are other possible approaches to marking biblio records for other uses 12:53 cait i feel like we have deprecated it maybe... or should have 12:53 tcohen item types are for... items? 12:53 cait hmyeah but theere is the use case of records with no items 12:53 tcohen and GetItem should probably be dealt with in Koha::Item(s) 12:53 cait electronic resources, serials etc 12:54 tcohen what would we need itemtypes for, on a record without items? 12:54 cait search 12:54 cait people like to be able to search for serials easily like for their other itemtypes 12:54 tcohen lets have biblio_types 12:54 cait i'd love to move it out of the marc 12:54 cait but... meh search 12:55 tcohen kidclamp will fix it on ElasticSearch 12:55 cait we don't have 942 set for all but one use case because it gets overwritten all the time 12:55 cait not sure he will, our data is still teh same :) 12:55 tcohen it is just an extra index 12:55 cait my point was that you want it mixed in 12:55 tcohen we just need a biblio_type column in the biblio table 12:55 cait because circulation conditions 12:55 cait search 12:55 cait facets 12:55 cait ... 12:56 cait at the moment we have it on both levels, needs more thought than just killing or renaming 12:56 tcohen it is just more work, not a technical barrier 12:56 cait yeah but we need to gain something by it 12:56 cait atthe moment I don't see the gain 12:56 cait by renaming it, if you want the bheaviour to be the same :) 12:57 tcohen I'm not saying we should rename it 12:57 tcohen I'm saying we don't need to query the biblio-level itype when fetching each item 12:57 tcohen there's something wrong in there 12:58 cait we need the biblio level stuff 12:58 cait in some cases 12:59 cait like when determining if you have reached max of holds 12:59 tcohen so, have the same 'search' behaviour without making thing smore complicated than we need 13:00 cait *sighs* 13:00 cait we are talking around each other:) 13:00 tcohen we are on the same page, just different perspective 13:00 cait i am not sure wher GetItem is used - it probably shoudl be separate routines for soem cases where we need both 13:00 cait in some cases you need to look at both levels, so need to deal with that 13:01 cait and as long as item_level-itypes = biblio is a valid setting ther eis no itemtype to look up on item level 13:01 cait ever 13:01 tcohen the problem is not DBIC vs. plain DBI 13:01 tcohen it is the way we require some information 13:02 tcohen FTR: using DBIC is using an SQL building lib (SQL::Abstract) that transforms hashrefs into SQL, and then passes it to DBI. The only fat/slow part of DBIC is loading the schemas at startup time 13:06 cait i feel like we are having at least 2 conversations at once 13:06 cait sorry, maybe i am just ot understanding today 13:06 tcohen I'm having several conversations at a time, that's correct :-P 13:06 cait but it's only the 2 of us... 13:07 cait are you alright? 13:07 tcohen I'm not sure 13:07 tcohen haha 13:31 * kidclamp waves 13:48 tcohen hi kidclamp 13:48 kidclamp hi tcohen 15:16 JesseDhammu HI guys, can I have the tutorial video link for serials entry in KOHA ? 15:53 cait bywatersolutions might have something 15:53 cait have you checked their website? 16:23 tcohen bywatersolutions? who's that? 16:34 Joubu KOHA? What's that? 16:44 kidclamp http://bywatersolutions.com/2017/05/11/koha-tutorial-serial-scriptions/ 16:44 kidclamp We are BWS, we are legion 18:16 tcohen later #koha 18:16 tcohen kidclamp hehe 22:15 cait @later tell Joubu dev meeting and general meeting are both planned for 10 january 14 UTC 22:15 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.