Time Nick Message
07:11 ashok i need help to host my library in koha cloud
07:27 cait @later tell kidclamp check comments on bug 19724 :)
07:27 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
07:27 cait @later tell kidclamp ignore, already fixed!
07:27 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
07:28 * cait should go and have breakfast and stop messing around with bugs
07:31 marcelr hi #koha
07:37 cait hi marcelr
07:37 marcelr hi cait
07:38 cait have to hurry to get ready for work, bbiab
07:42 alex_a hello
07:42 wahanui bidet, alex_a
08:18 gaetan_B hello
08:18 wahanui bidet, gaetan_B
08:19 cait good morning #koha!
09:04 butt i am facing a issue in checkin
09:04 butt please help me
09:05 cait what's the issue?
09:05 wahanui somebody said the issue was more like "what information do I want to show on jcamins's screenshot." :P
09:05 cait forget issue
09:05 wahanui cait: I forgot issue
09:06 butt when going to checkin an item it shows following message " The item has not been checked in due to a configuration issue in your system. You must ask an administrator to take a look at the about page and search for the "data problems" section'' anybody plz help me out to fix it
09:08 cait yes
09:08 cait did you check the about page as it told you?
09:09 butt yes its shows the folloing message ''an't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/about.pl line 343'' what shoud i do to fix it plz
09:09 butt can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/about.pl line 343.
09:09 cait hm ok, that's a different issue
09:09 cait which version is this?
09:09 cait the problem with checkin is this: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DBMS_auto_increment_fix
09:10 butt koha 16
09:11 butt how to resolve it plz help me
09:11 cait the easiest fix is to delete the doubled up number from the deleted* tables with sql
09:11 cait i am looking for instructions
09:11 cait 16 is not the ful version - we do 2 full releases every year
09:11 cait you need to give the exact version
09:12 butt its tls
09:12 cait tls?
09:12 butt its tls solution
09:13 cait you are using a provider where it's hosted?
09:13 butt total library solution for pakistan
09:14 butt how to delete it
09:14 butt is it possible to delelet it from webmin
09:14 butt or by using msql command
09:14 butt ?
09:15 cait you might have to contact your providr
09:15 cait you can#t do this from the gui
09:15 cait can't fix it i mean
09:15 cait it has to be done with SQL update
09:16 butt is it possible for you give me qurey command for this
09:21 cait check the wiki page above
09:21 cait and a support provider should know how to fix
09:22 butt thanks
09:48 * andreashm waves
09:49 * cait waves back
09:49 * cait wishes things would stop exploding today
09:55 andreashm exploding stuff?
09:55 cait breaking
09:59 andreashm bummer
10:27 cait andreashm: lots of different stuff, just have to work through one by one
10:28 * andreashm gives cait the cookie jar
10:28 cait thank you! :)
10:29 cait jajm++
10:31 cait translate down for everyone?
10:48 jenkins Project Koha_17.05_D8 build #59: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.05_D8/59/
10:48 jenkins * oleonard: Bug 19595: Clicking plugin link does not fill item's date acquired field
10:48 jenkins * oleonard: Bug 19674: Broken indicators of changed fields in manage staged MARC
10:48 jenkins * victor.grousset: Bug 12497: Fix search history non-accessible when OPAC was private
10:48 jenkins * victor.grousset: Bug 12497: Fix OPAC search history reachable by URL even when disabled
10:48 jenkins * mtompset: Bug 18907: Build has deprecating message
10:48 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19724: DBIC Schema changes
10:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19595 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Clicking plugin link does not fill item's date acquired field
10:48 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19775: Try & prevent Search/History.t to fail randomly
10:48 jenkins * oleonard: Bug 19751: Holds awaiting pickup report should not be fixed-width
10:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19674 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Broken indicators of changed fields in manage staged MARC records template
10:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12497 minor, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Pushed to Stable , Make OPAC search history feature accessible when it should
10:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18907 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Warning "dpkg-source: warning: relation < is deprecated: use << or <="
10:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19724 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Add timestamp to biblio_metadata and deletedbiblio_metadata
10:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19775 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Search/History.t is failing randomly
10:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19751 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Holds awaiting pickup report should not be fixed-width
10:56 * cait waves at khall
10:56 khall mornin!
11:00 cait khall++
11:17 alex_a_ QA question: is using of "me.field" when search objects is validated/authorized in community coding guidelines?
11:31 cait sorry have to pass
11:31 cait Joubu?
11:31 wahanui Joubu is probably not sure how to fix that correctly
11:38 cait i think it's a bit too early
11:42 merry_n Hi
11:42 merry_n Someone here?
11:42 cait yes, almost always soemone is here :)
11:45 merry_n Great! Hi :)
11:46 merry_n My question from tomorrow remained unanswered. I'd like to hear from someone who catalogs archives in Koha.
11:55 cait merry_n: we work with an archive and have presentations for manuscrips
11:56 cait for the manuscripts we have 3 levels and some customizations (xslt, indexing, ...)
11:56 cait i think on the list i have seen some archives too
11:56 cait it's before the holidays, maybe it just takes abit of time to get some answers
11:57 cait [off] http://www.dlr.de/zb/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-8232/14127_read-36319/
12:26 Joubu hi #koha
12:29 Joubu alex_a_: yes, it's the DBIx::Class way
12:32 cait morning Joubu :)
12:34 merry_n @cait Could you send me a link with an example of 3 levels?
12:34 huginn merry_n: I've exhausted my database of quotes
12:35 merry_n @ what do you mean?
12:35 huginn merry_n: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
12:36 merry_n Thank you!
12:36 oleonard Yo
12:36 alex_a_ Joubu: So when we do search({'field' => $value}), it's the wrong way?
12:41 Joubu you use "me" when there is a join
12:45 cait1 eduroam++ - doubled up cait
12:49 tuxayo huginn: what is RDA?
12:49 * wahanui huh, good god y'all, what is it good for, absolutely nothing
12:49 huginn tuxayo: I've exhausted my database of quotes
12:49 tuxayo merry_n: That ↑ confirms that you were trolled by this bot!
12:49 tuxayo huginn: bad bot!
12:49 wahanui :(
12:49 huginn tuxayo: I suck
12:52 Joubu tuxayo: be care, now you have 2 bots against you
12:52 tuxayo Not you wahanui , you are great ;)
12:54 tuxayo Hi Joubu :) wahanui shouldn't be mad as it wasn't against it. Or maybe it's by empathy with huginn ?
12:59 tcohen morning #koha
12:59 merry_n ok, get it)) thanks))
13:25 cait morning all
13:25 cait well morning tcohen - late here :)
13:29 cait it looks like routing list preview is broken in 16.11 too :(
13:30 cait can't call method branchname on an undefined value...
13:31 cait seems different than 19766
13:34 Joubu cait: script+line number?
13:34 cait just posted a comment Can't call method "branchname" on an undefined value at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/serials/routing-preview.pl line 69.
13:34 cait was about to file a new bug
13:34 cait if you could nudge me int he right direction that would be cool
13:35 cait bug 19858
13:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19858 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [16.11] Routing list preview/printing broken
13:35 Joubu hum, the holding branch of the item is not a branch defined in the system (??)
13:35 cait there is no item
13:36 cait you don't have to have items for serials
13:36 Joubu ha
13:36 cait we broke this with an update from 3.22 to 16.11 for a library
13:36 cait so trying to fix it quickly
13:37 cait broken on live system and on my devbox
13:39 Joubu I have almost a patch
13:39 Joubu I test it and attach it
13:39 cait thank you!
13:40 Joubu cait: it's bug 19315
13:40 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19315 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Routing preview may use wrong biblionumber
13:45 cait ah
13:45 cait not well named
13:45 cait so what are we going to do?
13:46 cait the patches didn't apply
13:47 cait hi LeeJ
13:47 * LeeJ waves
13:47 LeeJ hi #koha
13:47 LeeJ cait: hi there!
13:48 Joubu cait: I am going to submit and push a follow on 19315, then provide a 17.05 and 16.11 versions
13:48 cait ok, i will wiat for you
13:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 19315: Prevent crash if no items and not library set for the subscription <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=47d8320deaabe420d0a13f4a4403ae650f5b6c74>
14:05 tcohen dev meeting?
14:05 wahanui dev meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Developers_IRC_Meetings
14:06 tcohen next dev meeting?
14:06 wahanui i guess next dev meeting is tenatively scheduled for 23 April, and project roles will be voted on there
14:06 Joubu next meeting?
14:06 wahanui next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings
14:06 munee hi all
14:06 tcohen wahanui: forget next dev meeting
14:06 wahanui tcohen: I forgot next dev meeting
14:07 tcohen next dev meeting is check https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings
14:07 munee needa help. i cant enter any title/other fields in my local language. .
14:08 Joubu munee: which version of Koha are you using?
14:08 munee latest on1
14:08 munee 17.11
14:09 clrh hello
14:09 Joubu munee: can you describe the issue you face? Did you check the log file?
14:10 munee thing is wen i add a record, if i give english.its fine. ican see all the title and everything while searching
14:10 munee but if i enter title in divehi language, I cant see the book title while searchng
14:13 Joubu you need to tune Zebra I guess
14:15 cait Joubu: can you ping me when patches are ready for testing?
14:16 Joubu cait: they are
14:18 munee how to tune Joubu ?
14:20 Joubu cait, tcohen: ^?
14:21 marcelr koha-tune --restart Joubu
14:22 munee koha-tune command not found
14:22 marcelr munee just kidding
14:22 cait thx, answering another ticket, then back to the routing list problem :)
14:24 munee so anyone ?. how to make it work ?
14:27 cait if you wnat to search with non-latin characters, you need icu
14:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 19843: (bug 15839 follow-up) Set reviews.datereviewed when the review is made <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=11b562e0d1dbca1243e7ab9305741360b2114db6> / Bug 19808: Do not display 'Added' alone <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e2d88cfb28d54fe0e6f5714d5bcd3746076cffa5> / Bug 19808: Handle deleted reviewers gracefully - reviews/reviewswaiting.pl <http://git.
14:32 munee yaz-icu ?
14:33 tcohen https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ICU_Chains_Library
14:34 cait thx tcohen
14:34 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #319: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/319/
14:34 jenkins Jonathan Druart: Bug 19315: Prevent crash if no items and not library set for the
14:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19315 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Routing preview may use wrong biblionumber
14:34 tcohen read this first
14:34 tcohen https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ICU_chains_configuration
14:34 tcohen read both
14:35 gaetan_B do we recommend a minimum version of firefox to use koha?
14:36 tcohen ESR?
14:37 oleonard gaetan_B: I don't think we've ever recommended a minimum. Are you looking for support of a particular feature?
14:37 gaetan_B ah good idea yes, thanks tcohen
14:37 * oleonard typically assumes that Firefox updates itself
14:38 gaetan_B oleonard: just wondering whether we should tell libraries they need to make sure they have a version above a given version
14:38 gaetan_B but this issue is specifically for libraries that are part of organizations which monitor updates very closely
14:38 oleonard Definitely ESR for those libraries.
14:38 gaetan_B so they don't necessarily want firefox to update itself, so esr yes
14:38 cait we use ESR, no known problems
14:40 tcohen the only problem will be the end of support for JSPrintSetup in Quantum onards
14:41 kidclamp s/onards/onwards
14:42 tcohen :-P
14:42 kidclamp took me a minute to figure that out
14:42 oleonard Quantum Onards®
14:43 kidclamp now oleonard is gonna cash in on that sweet Onard licensing
14:43 oleonard Good ole onard
14:44 tcohen irc logs will help he on trial
14:44 tcohen s/he/me
14:44 marcelr onerds
14:44 tcohen my typing skills today...
14:44 cait Joubu++
14:56 oleonard Joubu: What is the purpose of the reordering feature of the search engine configuration page? (admin/searchengine/elasticsearch/mappings.pl)
14:56 oleonard kidclamp perhaps you know?
14:56 Joubu for the indexation order
14:57 kidclamp https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18827
14:57 huginn Bug 18827: normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, NEW , Elasticsearch mappings - not displayed or retrieved in saved order
14:57 Joubu for facet for instance, or sort
14:57 kidclamp I am not it actually has affect
14:57 kidclamp not sure
14:57 Joubu it should
14:58 oleonard I have tried reordering, but it doesn't appear to save. The order is the same afterwards.
14:58 kidclamp we should enforce only one value as sortable, or have a fallthrough
14:58 kidclamp but multiple sort values causes issues
14:59 Joubu oleonard asked the purpose of the feature, not if it works :D
15:00 Joubu kidclamp: if a value does not exist you may want to pick the next/another one, instead of none
15:04 cait Joubu: fixes for 19315 work for 16.11 - signing off on those
15:04 kidclamp agreed, but the sort field should only have one in the end
15:06 cait should i set to signed off?
15:09 Joubu cait: kidclamp found a bug on 19315
15:09 Joubu if no item and no library and RoutingListAddReserves is set, dbi explodes
15:10 Joubu it tries to insert a reserve with a fk branchcode == null
15:11 cait routing list holds should never be turned on
15:11 cait they are broken
15:11 cait bug 2894
15:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2894 major, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Routing list holds are broken
15:11 Joubu ha...
15:11 Joubu installer/data/mysql/sysprefs.sql:('RoutingListAddReserves','1','','If ON the patrons on routing lists are automatically added to holds on the issue.','YesNo'),
15:11 cait it's on my 'most annoying bugs list'
15:11 Joubu it's the default value...
15:11 cait yes
15:12 cait most annoying.
15:12 * kidclamp hands cait a roundtuit - go forth and fix it :-)
15:12 cait we had a patch fixing it
15:12 cait but it got stuck
15:12 cait bug 7957
15:12 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7957 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Routing lists: manage several routing list for each subscription, and export them as CSV
15:13 cait probably needs to be rewritten now
15:13 cait can i savely deploy the current fix if we have it turned off? seems to work alright then
15:13 cait also with no branch set
15:13 Joubu so what would be a quick fix for the tomorrow's 17.11 release?
15:13 kidclamp well, bug 19315 didn't cause this, and fixes others, so think can push that
15:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19315 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Routing preview may use wrong biblionumber
15:13 Joubu yep
15:13 Joubu sounds like a long standing bug
15:13 kidclamp I think quick fix is don't add holds when no item, makes sense cait?
15:14 Joubu but maybe it failed quietly before
15:14 kidclamp even if routing place holds is on
15:14 cait i
15:14 Joubu quick fix would be if ( 0 and RoutingListAddReserves ) { # FIXME Always false, but this is broken
15:16 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #320: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/320/
15:16 jenkins * victor.grousset: Bug 19808: Handle deleted reviewers gracefully - opac-detail
15:16 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19808: (follow-up) Handle deleted reviewers gracefully - opac-detail
15:16 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19808: Handle deleted reviewers gracefully - opac-showreview
15:16 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19808: Handle deleted reviewers gracefully -
15:16 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19808 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Reviews from deleted patrons make few scripts to explode
15:16 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19808: Do not display 'Added' alone
15:16 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19843: (bug 15839 follow-up) Set reviews.datereviewed when the
15:16 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19843 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , reviews.datereviewed is not set
15:16 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15839 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, Move the reviews related code to Koha::Reviews
15:17 cait kidclamp: maybe
15:17 Joubu tcohen: ^ this is weird: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/320/console
15:17 Joubu Could not unlink /tmp/zZ8N4ai/Koha/Plugin/Com/ByWaterSolutions/KitchenSink.pm.pm: No such file or directory at /kohadevbox/koha/Koha/Plugins/Handler.pm line 105.
15:17 cait it seems to have some code from times where you could have another type of holds
15:18 cait but i haven't tested it in a long while, all my notes are on the old bug
15:18 cait kidclamp: ^
15:19 Joubu bug 19862
15:19 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19862 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , RoutingListAddReserves must be disabled by default
15:19 Joubu must we turn it off on existing install as well?
15:20 kidclamp looks like the old problem involved constraintype and that is gone
15:23 kidclamp so secondary issue is placing a bib level hold when serial may have a bunch of items
15:23 kidclamp AddReserve takes bibitems parameter and never uses it
15:23 kidclamp all sorts of bad happening here
15:25 kidclamp I think we could check for items, then place the routing list holds on the most recent item?
15:25 Joubu oleonard: could you take a quick look at bug 19401 and bug 19429?
15:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19401 normal, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Passed QA , No confirm message when deleting an invoice from invoice detail page
15:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19429 normal, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Passed QA , No confirm message when deleting an invoice from invoice search
15:25 Joubu we need consistency there
15:28 * oleonard will look
15:28 cait kidclamp: i thnk you can find out the right one
15:28 cait there is serials_items
15:29 Joubu khall: here it is - https://gitlab.com/joubu/Koha/-/jobs/45506921
15:31 cait you can#t use the most recent - routling list printing can be any issue, have to get the correct one, but we have a table and you have the serialid to look it up
15:38 oleonard Joubu: I commented. Short answer: I think it's fine.
15:39 Joubu khall: you PQAed 19599 but it depends on 19830, can you have a quick look at it please?
15:39 khall gah! can do!
15:39 Joubu thanks oleonard
16:01 TGoat good morning :D
16:16 Joubu cait: - <h5>Comment by [% review.firstname %]</h5>
16:16 Joubu + <h5>Comment by [% review.patron.firstname %]</h5>
16:16 Joubu Do you know if this will affect translation?
16:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 19429: Rename .delete to .delete_invoice <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4d3b25bc21adfc768d18756b0973ddf37d69efa> / Bug 19401: Add confirm message when deleting invoice <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0ec74621ca2f105c33b85645d6855918efbc28a7> / Bug 19429: Add confirm message when deleting invoice from invoice search page <http://git.koha-community.org/gi
16:30 cait Joubu: looking now
16:30 cait it should be ok
16:30 cait i tihnk
16:30 cait it should translate to %s in both cases
16:31 cait not sure if the scripts would mark it fuzzy or not
16:31 Joubu kidclamp: ^
16:32 kidclamp sounds good
16:32 cait best is always testing.... an dmaybe documenting your findings
16:34 Joubu fwiw I think it's better to have a non-translated string than a app which can crash
16:34 Joubu but IIRC cait you disagreed with that :)
16:35 cait it depends on the bug reall
16:35 cait y
16:35 cait staff less evil than opac - bad bug etc
16:36 cait i just want people to be thoughtful at leat and not forget about translators :)
16:37 cait btw Joubu++ thx for helping me fix bugs today and make libraries happier :)
17:03 cait bbiab :)
17:04 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #321: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/321/
17:04 jenkins * oleonard: Bug 19669: Remove deprecated checkouts by patron category report
17:04 jenkins * kyle: Bug 19669: (QA follow-up) Remove itemstypes.plugin
17:04 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19845: Do not generate a password if one is filled on selfreg
17:04 jenkins * mtompset: Bug 17770: Fix Sitemapper.t if date changes during test run
17:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19669 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove deprecated checkouts by patron category report
17:04 jenkins * mtompset: Bug 17770: Improve perlcritic level
17:04 jenkins * mtompset: Bug 17770: Perltidy
17:04 jenkins * srdjan: Bug 19450: Fixed WebService::ILS bug upstream (0.17)
17:04 jenkins * Nick Clemens: Bug 18201: Export data -Fix "Remove non-local items" option and add
17:04 jenkins * Nick Clemens: Bug 18201: Unit tests
17:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19845 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Patron password is ignored during self-registration if PatronSelfRegistrationVerifyByEmail is enabled
17:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17770 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/Sitemapper.t fails when date changes during test run
17:04 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19694: Force scalar context for output_pref called with billingdate
17:04 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19830: Add the Koha::Patron->old_checkouts method
17:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19450 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , OverDrive integration failing on missing method
17:04 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19599: Speed anonymise_issue_history up
17:04 jenkins * julian.maurice: Bug 19725: Add failing test
17:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18201 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Export data -Fix "Remove non-local items" option and add "Removes non-local records" option for existing functionality
17:04 jenkins * julian.maurice: Bug 19725: OAI-PMH - Use biblio_metadata.timestamp
17:04 jenkins * mtompset: Bug 11976: Add Publication date to subscription table (opac) + column
17:04 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11976: Fix sorting issues
17:04 jenkins * oleonard: Bug 19573: Link to make a new list in masthead in OPAC only appears /
17:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19694 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Edited shipping cost in invoice doesn't save
17:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19830 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add the Koha::Patron->old_checkout method
17:04 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19756: Fix encoding issues during the update DB process
17:04 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18201: Tidy tests
17:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19599 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , anonymise_issue_history can be very slow on large systems
17:04 jenkins * aleishaamohia: Bug 19429: Add confirm message when deleting invoice from invoice search
17:04 jenkins * aleishaamohia: Bug 19401: Add confirm message when deleting invoice
17:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19725 major, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , OAI-PMH ListRecords and ListIdentifiers should use biblio_metadata.timestamp
17:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11976 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Pushed to Master , Add column settings + new column "Publication date" to the subscription table
17:04 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19429: Rename .delete to .delete_invoice
17:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19573 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Link to make a new list in masthead in OPAC only appears / works if no other list already exists
17:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19756 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Encoding issues when update DB is run from the interface
17:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19429 normal, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to Master , No confirm message when deleting an invoice from invoice search
17:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19401 normal, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to Master , No confirm message when deleting an invoice from invoice detail page
17:08 oleonard Whee
17:35 Joubu jenkins: bug 19867
17:35 jenkins Joubu you may not issue bot commands in this chat!
17:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19867 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , HouseboundRoles.t is failing randomly
18:08 cait dinner, then qa !
18:47 * oleonard 's dinner isn't even ASSIGNED, let alone Signed Off
18:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 19867: Prevent HouseboundRoles.t to fail randomly <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e465e3608cbc4422b695aaef2da26592706d82f>
18:56 oleonard Hey UNIMARC users, are you okay? The 123$f plugin has been broken since 2007.
18:59 kidclamp bye koha, see you tomorrow
19:05 oleonard_ Okay maybe not broken... it's just that the 123$f plugin uses the same template as 123$g. On purpose?
19:07 cait no idea
19:14 oleonard Bye all
19:24 jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
19:24 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:24 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #322: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/322/
19:24 jenkins Jonathan Druart: Bug 19867: Prevent HouseboundRoles.t to fail randomly
19:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19867 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , HouseboundRoles.t is failing randomly
19:59 Nemo_bis cait: as instructed, I made a sql files for the list of libraries (regex over csv from copy'n'paste from html...) and I'm now trying import again :)
19:59 Nemo_bis Does it matter whether I import bibrecords before authorities?
20:08 cait not really
20:08 cait there is a script to link them
20:08 cait it's not happening on import
20:13 Nemo_bis link_bibs_to_authorities.pl failed on my previous attempt but let's see with this new instance
20:14 Nemo_bis (with: oAuth error: Database unavailable (109) authorities Bib-1 )
20:14 Nemo_bis I changed CatalogModuleRelink but I don't understand whether it affects import https://koha-community.org/manual/17.05/html/02_administration.html#catalogmodulerelink
20:52 LeeJ going afk for a few minutes but I'll be back to start the meeting
20:58 BobB good morning
20:58 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes
20:59 georgew good morning, BobB
20:59 BobB hi georgew
21:00 LeeJ hello hello
21:00 * cait waves
21:00 LeeJ I figure I'll give people about 5 minutes to get in if they're joining because I'm nice like that :)
21:01 * LeeJ waves to cait
21:01 LeeJ hi BobB georgew
21:01 LeeJ caboose should be here...he said he would be
21:03 LeeJ we'll start in 3 minutes and see where it goes
21:05 BobB LeeJ your kanban is not on the agenda, will it be explained?
21:06 LeeJ BobB yes it will be...I believe I created the kanban after that last meeting so it didn't come to mind to include it
21:06 BobB thx
21:06 LeeJ I feel it can be filed under "What's been done so far"
21:07 LeeJ hi davidnind
21:07 davidnind Hi LeeJ!
21:07 LeeJ alright ladies and gents let's get started!
21:07 LeeJ #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 21 December 2017
21:07 huginn Meeting started Thu Dec 21 21:07:38 2017 UTC. The chair is LeeJ. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
21:07 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
21:07 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_21_december_2017'
21:07 LeeJ #chair LeeJ
21:07 huginn Current chairs: LeeJ
21:08 LeeJ #chair edveal
21:08 huginn Current chairs: LeeJ edveal
21:08 LeeJ #topic Introductions
21:08 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
21:08 BobB #info Bob Birchall, Calyx, Australia
21:08 LeeJ #info Lee Jamison, Marywood University
21:08 georgew #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System
21:09 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand
21:09 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
21:09 LeeJ any other intros? :)
21:10 LeeJ moving on then!
21:10 LeeJ #topic What's been done so far
21:10 LeeJ cait: would you like to include your info now?
21:11 cait ye
21:11 cait s
21:11 cait one of it :)
21:11 LeeJ great!
21:11 cait #info the master branch now deploys to the https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/en/html/ site each merge/push
21:11 cait so every time the manual is changed, it's regenerated
21:11 LeeJ :O
21:11 cait my other thing goes to the next topic
21:11 LeeJ cait++ Joubu++
21:11 cait rangi++
21:11 LeeJ rangi++
21:11 cait not me, rangi++ :)
21:12 cait was just asked to mention it
21:12 LeeJ oh well :P
21:12 LeeJ I'll mention the kanban in the next topic as well after you give your info :)
21:12 LeeJ #topic Workflows
21:12 LeeJ cait: after you :)
21:13 LeeJ alright..so some of you may have noticed my note in the reminder email about the kanban I created
21:13 BobB yep
21:14 LeeJ who has questions?
21:14 cait link?
21:14 wahanui link is probably both helpful/unhelpful
21:14 LeeJ sure :)
21:14 BobB how does it work? :)
21:14 BobB #link https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/epics
21:14 LeeJ BobB++
21:15 LeeJ so basically we can use it in almost a bugzilla-type fashion..just used exclusively for documentation
21:15 LeeJ if anyone has not joined the project please do or let me know if you need help joining!
21:16 LeeJ the epics indicate the different Koha releases
21:16 cait #info Let LeeJ know if you need help joining the kanban board for ducumentation
21:17 BobB via 'Sign up' in the top right, I guess?
21:17 LeeJ #info the kanban itself breaks down into 3 general categories: epics are used to indicate individual releases, user stories are for specific components within each release that needs attention, and tasks are the actual things that need to be done
21:17 LeeJ BobB: correct
21:18 LeeJ #info LeeJ is continually updating the koha-docs kanban's wiki page to provide more help and information to new contributors
21:19 cait should we link to it from the wiki?
21:19 BobB ok, I have found the help page, which looks like it might help :)
21:19 LeeJ cait: yes..I'll do that before the weekend
21:19 LeeJ BobB: great!
21:20 BobB 'What's an Epic' is prolly a good place to start, eh
21:20 LeeJ #info contact LeeJ for any suggestions to contribute to the koha-docs kanban wiki
21:20 LeeJ BobB: noted :)
21:20 BobB So will the kanban replace the To Do list?
21:21 LeeJ BobB: that is correct...I've taken the liberty of migrating all documentation-related content from the To Do list to the kanban under appropriate epics/user stories
21:21 BobB ok, now I get it, cool
21:22 LeeJ anyone have any additional questions before moving on?
21:22 LeeJ okay! unless I forgot something, I think we're good
21:23 LeeJ #topic Next steps
21:23 LeeJ cait: you're up :)
21:23 cait ok
21:24 cait Joubu has been working on removing the help files in Koha in favour of either linking to the online manual or configuring a local manual to link to
21:24 cait so we will have one source of truth to maintain
21:24 cait the manual
21:24 wahanui the manual is probably in the code
21:24 cait and people will stlil have the option to use it without internt
21:24 cait while working on this, there are some questions
21:24 cait at the moment it's possible to edit the help pages in Koha
21:25 cait but if you make a local edit like that
21:25 cait it will be overwritten by the next update without warning
21:25 BobB yes
21:25 cait it wlil also be practically impossible to keep a local version of the manual current
21:25 cait the idea is to remove the ability to edit the pages
21:26 cait in favor of adding a way to add new local pages
21:26 BobB agree
21:26 LeeJ that makes sense
21:26 cait local additions we could call it maybe?
21:26 cait sec, need to check what Joubu send me
21:27 cait Joubu is asking for use cases and ideas for the gui/workflow
21:27 LeeJ cait: okay..and I'll let you add your info to the info tag for this content if you wouldn't mind :)
21:27 cait oh
21:28 cait yeah :)
21:28 cait #info Joubu is working on patches to remove the help files in koha in favor of linking to the online manual or a local version (configurable)
21:28 cait #info idea is to remove the possibility to edit the help pages as they are overwritten and can't be maintained in favor of a way to add local content separately
21:29 LeeJ cait: should we contact him directly if we come up with use cases or ideas for the workflow? or is there a bug to add comments to with suggestions?
21:29 cait #info Joubu is looking for workflows, use cases and ideas on how to make this work nicely
21:29 cait hm sec there is a bug
21:29 davidnind https://bugs.kohha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19817
21:29 huginn Bug 19817: new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Merge local and online documentations
21:29 cait yes
21:30 LeeJ davidnind is on the ball tonight :)
21:30 cait so we generally agree that the current editing option is ok to go?
21:30 indradg davidnind++
21:30 davidnind :)
21:30 LeeJ hi indradg
21:30 cait hi indradg :)
21:30 LeeJ indradg: don't forget to add yourself under the info tag if you're here for the meeting :)
21:31 LeeJ cait: I'll make a note of it since it seems so
21:31 LeeJ since no one objected
21:31 indradg Kia ora #koha :-) Sorry i´m late. fell asleep, its 3:01 AM here
21:31 cait wow, that's a really bad time for a meeting, glad you made it
21:31 indradg #info Indranil Das Gupta, L2C2 Technologies, India.
21:31 indradg :)
21:32 BobB hi indradg
21:32 LeeJ #agreed the current local editing option can be replaced with the result of Bug 19817
21:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19817 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Merge local and online documentations
21:33 LeeJ #action anyone who comes up with ideas for the local and online documentation merge should refer to Bug 19817 or contact Joubu
21:33 LeeJ do we have anything else to add? :)
21:33 cait i think that was it :)
21:34 LeeJ indradg: just to quickly summarize what we went over...
21:34 LeeJ I created what's called a kanban to aid in organizing the documentation workflow
21:34 LeeJ https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/epics
21:35 LeeJ at your convenience, you can sign up with the project and if there's any questions feel free to contact me :)
21:35 indradg LeeJ++
21:35 LeeJ I think that was the only major thing we went over before you arrived...
21:36 LeeJ unless anyone has anything else to add, shall we decide on next meeting?
21:36 LeeJ specifically if we can find a time so indradg can get a full night's sleep ;)
21:37 indradg heh
21:38 BobB whatever time is always bad for someone, best to rotate them
21:38 LeeJ BobB: I agree
21:38 BobB though this time is good for me :)
21:38 indradg BobB: +1
21:38 LeeJ indradg: what time would be reasonable for you? BobB had a good idea for us to rotate meeting times to do our best to be inclusive
21:39 indradg LeeJ, rotating is fine
21:39 LeeJ indradg: what UTC time would work for you?
21:40 LeeJ earlier? later?
21:41 georgew 6 hours from now would be 3:00, UTC, right?
21:41 georgew Why not rotate them by 6 hours each meeting?
21:41 indradg usually UTC 2PM onwards is better
21:41 LeeJ georgew: I like that idea
21:41 georgew 3, 9, 15, 21
21:42 indradg georgew: +1
21:43 LeeJ hi caboose :) we're just wrapping up
21:43 caboose I'm so sorry
21:43 caboose can we meet up at some point to go over the meeting topics?
21:43 caboose I thought I would be back at 4 :(
21:43 LeeJ caboose: no worries! sure
21:43 BobB of those times, only one is bad for me, so 3 are good - best one can expect, I think
21:44 LeeJ we're just trying to figure out next time
21:44 LeeJ we're discussing rotating meeting times between 3, 9, 15, 21 UTC
21:44 georgew same is true for me, BobB
21:45 LeeJ so how about January 21 at 3 UTC?
21:45 cait caboose: you can also read the logs - nothing is lost :)
21:45 caboose sweet!
21:45 caboose excited!
21:45 cait logs?
21:45 wahanui hmmm... logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/
21:46 cait probably not going to make that one, but that's ok
21:46 LeeJ anyone opposed to January 21 @ 3 UTC?
21:46 LeeJ cait: I can always catch you up anyway :)
21:46 cait i will be travelling in indradg's direction
21:46 georgew +1 to January 21 @ 3
21:46 cait yep
21:46 cait np
21:47 LeeJ alright, since I consider silence as agreement then it appears it works for most people so we'll do that
21:47 davidnind https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Koha+Documentation+IRC+Meeting&iso=20180121T0300
21:47 BobB isn't january 21 a sunday?
21:47 cait heh it is
21:47 LeeJ #info we will try to rotate meeting times between 3, 9, 15, 21 UTC
21:47 indradg cait: yeah! LTC right around that time
21:47 LeeJ hah..didn't even realize that..
21:48 LeeJ how about the 22nd then?
21:48 LeeJ good catch
21:48 georgew I'm looking at 2019
21:48 BobB linuxConfAu starts on 22 :)
21:49 LeeJ then perhaps the week prior?
21:50 BobB how about Jan 17 or 18?
21:50 LeeJ 17th works for me.
21:51 LeeJ alright so then the 17th at 3 UTC
21:51 caboose sweet
21:51 georgew cool
21:51 BobB +1
21:51 LeeJ no objections heard so that's what we'll do
21:52 BobB thanks LeeJ
21:52 LeeJ #info Next Meeting: 17 January 2018, 3 UTC
21:52 BobB its the last business day of hte year for us, so I'll get going
21:52 BobB happy Christmas everyone
21:52 LeeJ take care BobB! Good luck!
21:52 LeeJ alright, and we're done!
21:52 LeeJ #endmeeting
21:52 huginn Meeting ended Thu Dec 21 21:52:46 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
21:52 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/documentation_irc_meeting_21_december_2017.2017-12-21-21.07.html
21:52 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/documentation_irc_meeting_21_december_2017.2017-12-21-21.07.txt
21:52 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/documentation_irc_meeting_21_december_2017.2017-12-21-21.07.log.html
21:52 davidnind LeeJ++
21:53 LeeJ alright! Time to head home! Have a good night all!
22:41 cait LeeJ++
23:10 cait anyone awake still?
23:41 * sen waves to cait. Are most people here in the Australia-ish time zones?