Time Nick Message 00:01 KotH wizzyrea: an addendum about the barcodes: i've tried a few out, and the most reliable and compact i've found are qr codes. everything else takes a lot more space and needs better printing quality 00:01 wizzyrea ah right 00:03 sen KotH: are you planning to barcode and/or spine-label your private library? (just curious) 00:04 KotH sen: koha needs for internal management barcodes (aka a number) to identify books. w/o them you cannot lend anything 00:04 KotH sen: so i started printing small barcode labels 00:05 sen right, I was just curious if you planned to physically apply that to your books, some people put it on an index card tucked in the front or something 00:05 KotH sen: yes i apply them 00:05 sen cool. QR code is an interesting idea, makes sense density-wise 00:06 KotH sen: http://time.kinali.ch/qr-10030.png 00:06 KotH sen: generated with a small perl script 00:07 KotH sen: printed using https://git.kinali.ch/attila/ptouch_printer 00:07 KotH sen: on a PT-P750W 00:07 sen neat :) 00:08 KotH well.. i've been shaving a few yaks lately :) 00:10 KotH sen: i've been using koha a while now (without the barcodes), and overall i'm very happy 00:11 KotH nice little tool. easy installation and maintenance. very easy to use, even for a non-professional like me 00:12 sen Not sure "little" is real, but I'm glad ;) 00:12 KotH well... if i compare it to other web apps i've been using, koha is the smallest 00:13 KotH gitlab needs a VM of its own, with >4G ram and ~10G diskspace 00:13 KotH drupal 2GB ram, 2G disk 00:13 KotH openproject, 2GB ram, 1G disk 00:13 KotH ... 00:14 sen Okay, resource-wise that makes sense yeah :) 00:14 KotH and of those, koha takes least time to maintain 00:14 rangi Koha does way more than all of those too, its just we don't go for the throw more RAM at it approach 00:14 KotH rangi: no, koha doesn't go for the "i don't know what i'm doing so i just add more code" approach 00:15 sen I almost didn't believe it when I read the (low) requirements, heh. 00:15 * KotH could rant for hours about web "developers" 00:17 KotH sen: actually, koha needs lot of resources. it's not small. but it has a proper design, where someone thought about what should be done and how. it's that "normal" webapp these days are written by people who have no f***ing clue and just plug things together like a 4y old toddler plugs lego together to buidl a plane or car 00:23 KotH when i say i can rant for hours about web developers, i mean that :) 01:15 KotH sen: btw: if you want to do the barcode thing and are using linux: get a webcam 01:16 KotH sen: they are cheaper than real barcode scanners, and work better 01:17 sen I don't use Linux on my desktop (Mac) and am happy using a "real" one, I've always found them to work well and they're easier/quicker to aim and such, what is "better" about webcam ones? 01:18 KotH sen: if you are only dealing with 1D codes, then the hand scanners are ok. but if you have 2D codes, they get expsnive and still dont work well 01:18 KotH sen: i tried some in the 100€ class and they were just a waste of money 01:19 KotH a 50€ webcam from logitech with some oss software beats them all :) 01:23 sen Ahh, I actually use Aztec code for a darkroom system and it works great, using a Motorola MS1200 reader. But to each their own :) This will be Code 39 anyways, so not as taxing on a reader as 2D symbologies. 01:27 KotH sen: yeah.. for code39, handreaders are faster :) 07:37 alex_a bonjour 07:37 wahanui niihau, alex_a 08:53 jenkins Project Koha_17.05_D8 build #56: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.05_D8/56/ 08:53 jenkins * david.bourgault: Bug 19683: Fix authority types in tools/export template 08:53 jenkins * fridolin.somers: Bug 19646: fix value_builder marc21_linking_section template 08:53 jenkins * m.de.rooy: Bug 19646: (QA follow-up) Fix tab character 08:53 jenkins * fridolin.somers: Bug 19640: fix OPAC IdRef webservice display 08:53 jenkins * fridolin.somers: Bug 18833: Plugin unimarc_field_210c pagination error 08:53 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19683 normal, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Pushed to Stable , Export.pl does not populate the Authority Types dropdown correctly 08:53 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19646 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to Stable , value_builder marc21_linking_section template is broken 08:53 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19640 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to Stable , IdRef webservice display is broken 08:53 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18833 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to Stable , plugin unimarc_field_210c pagination error 09:31 jenkins Project Koha_17.05_D8 build #57: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.05_D8/57/ 09:31 jenkins * kyle: Bug 19533: Hold pulldown for itemtype is empty if hold placement needs 09:31 jenkins * simon.pouchol: Bug 19692: fix unclosed div in opac-shelves.tt 09:31 jenkins * david.bourgault: Bug 19681: Correct result count formatting 09:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19533 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Hold pulldown for itemtype is empty if hold placement needs override 09:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19692 trivial, P5 - low, ---, simon.pouchol, Pushed to Stable , Unclosed div in opac-shelves.tt 09:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19681 trivial, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Pushed to Stable , label-item-search.pl result count formatting error when there is only one page 10:03 cait you are loud jenkins! 10:03 cait good morning #koha! 10:34 tuxayo Hi, does anyone know if it's possible to contact another translator through Pootle? 10:49 cait tuxayo: sorry, there is not way to see the email addresses 10:49 cait maybe i can tell you who it is, which one are you looking for? 10:51 tuxayo cait: http://translate.koha-community.org/accounts/BruceCrisp/ 11:06 cait hm sorry :( 11:16 cait tuxayo: maybe try the koha-translate mailing list? 11:16 fridolin kidclamp: pb i think in 17.11.x 11:16 kidclamp what's up frido? 11:18 fridolin kidclamp: there is an updatedatabase to 17.11.00.001 11:18 fridolin but verison is still 17.11.00.000 11:18 fridolin Bug 19724 11:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19724 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Add timestamp to biblio_metadata and deletedbiblio_metadata 11:18 kidclamp ah 11:20 kidclamp thanks frido, have to hit a few things and will fix 11:20 fridolin ;) 11:21 fridolin im on backport to 17.05.x 11:25 tuxayo cait: thanks :) 12:05 jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #18: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/18/ 12:05 jenkins * david.gustafsson: Bug 19563: Generation of sort_fields uses incorrect condition 12:05 jenkins * Nick Clemens: Bug 19563: Unit tests 12:05 jenkins * Nick Clemens: Bug 19563: (follow-up) Restore checking sort variable 12:05 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 3841: Add the ACQ framework for new installations 12:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19563 major, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, Pushed to Stable , Generation of sort_fields uses incorrect condition 12:05 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19746: Remove debug statements in returns.pl 12:05 jenkins * claire.gravely: Bug 19769: 'Pickup library is different' message does not display 12:05 jenkins * Nick Clemens: Update version after bug 19724 12:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3841 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Add a Default ACQ framework 12:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19746 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Debug statements are left in returns.pl 12:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19769 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, claire_gravely, Pushed to Master , 'Pickup library is different' message does not display library branch name when placing hold 12:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19724 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Add timestamp to biblio_metadata and deletedbiblio_metadata 12:37 marcelr hi #koha 12:38 oleonard Hi marcelr and everyone 12:39 marcelr hi oleonard 12:39 wahanui hi oleopard 12:42 caboose hello! 12:48 gaetan_B hello 13:01 oleonard So, uh... Bug 19474 still applies! 13:01 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19474 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Convert staff client CSS to SCSS 13:18 jenkins Project Koha_17.05_D8 build #58: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.05_D8/58/ 13:18 jenkins * oleonard: Bug 19643: Pagination buttons on staged marc management are stacking 13:18 jenkins * Nick Clemens: Bug 18990: Overdue Notices are not sending through SMS correctly 13:18 jenkins * cnighswonger: Bug 10222: Error when saving Demco label templates 13:18 jenkins * mtompset: Bug 10222: Correct and expand to other languages 13:18 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19638: Remove false positive obsolete reports (auth_header.marcxml) 13:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19643 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Pagination buttons on staged marc management are stacking instead of inline 13:18 jenkins * Nick Clemens: Bug 19724: Add timestamp to biblio_metadata and deletedbiblio_metadata 13:18 jenkins * fridolin.somers: Bug 19724: DBRev 17.05.06.001 13:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18990 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , Overdue Notices are not sending through SMS correctly 13:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10222 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Error when saving Demco label templates 13:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19638 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , False positives for 'Update SQL' button 13:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19724 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Add timestamp to biblio_metadata and deletedbiblio_metadata 13:32 jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #19: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/19/ 13:32 jenkins * Nick Clemens: Bug 17182: Allow Keyword to MARC mapping for acquisitions searches 13:32 jenkins * julian.maurice: Bug 17182: (QA follow-up) Fix call to GetMarcBiblio 13:32 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19560: Correctly escape branchcode in admin/branches.pl 13:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17182 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , Allow Keyword to MARC mapping for acquisitions searches (subtitle) 13:32 jenkins * oleonard: Bug 19767: Remove unused serial-issues.pl script 13:32 jenkins * Nick Clemens: Bug 19706: Fix bad json formed when there are no CCODE values 13:33 jenkins * josef.moravec: Bug 19706: (QA follow-up) Hide the collection code selector if no value 13:33 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19759: Make TestBuilder generates only 2 decimals for float 13:33 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19759: Fix failing test in Chargelostitem.t 13:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19560 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Unable to delete library when branchcode contains special characters 13:33 jenkins * Nick Clemens: Bug 19806: Add classes to itemnotes in issues table 13:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19767 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , serial-issues.pl is unused and should be removed 13:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19706 major, P3, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , Item search: Unsupported format html 13:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19759 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , TestBuilder generates too many decimals for float 13:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19806 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , Add class to items.itemnotes_nonpublic 14:40 Joubu rangi: Bookseller.t passes for me on master 15:13 cait kidclamp: you are pushing lots of string changes after string freeze :( 15:13 cait that will all appear untransalated after an update for the libraries 15:14 cait bug 69775 is an example 15:14 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=69775 could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId 15:14 cait sorry, bug 19560 15:14 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19560 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Unable to delete library when branchcode contains special characters 15:15 kidclamp hmm...okay..I made a mistake - I was seeing text did not change, but not considering spaces etc 15:15 cait yeah, it's trikcy 15:15 cait if else constructs often appear as one string 15:15 cait so even a change int he logic changes the string in pootle 15:16 cait if you are not sure, you can run the update on translations - to see the difference 15:16 kidclamp should they remain for now or be reverted? 15:17 cait it's admin, so i think not that bad 15:17 cait if you don't want to revert 15:23 * cait sends kidclamp cookies 15:23 cait sorry for jumping at you 15:26 * kidclamp eats cookies and cries 15:26 kidclamp :-D 15:29 cait tears of happiness? they are very good cookies... (i hope) 16:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 19664: Reports sidebar menu should match list of reports on reports home page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b5d6441aa8b62efdac2bb1ba09a13cdae088a8b> / Bug 19658: Style fix for staff client lists page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0928edc4ef5ad4774dbd8f0fa34bc444ae84ba85> / Bug 18313: Remove delicious link on social networks <http://git.koha-community 17:05 oleonard Bug 19851 17:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19851 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Improve responsive layout handling of staff client menu bar 17:05 oleonard https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=69957 17:05 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Isabel Grubi <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4421681f48b1728a1d50f751a2d69154abf85dfc> / Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Bonnie Crawford <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3fb0099ecee47b3a30e60dc861f608a4383e0450> / Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Sherryn Mak <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k 17:05 oleonard don't upstage me huginn 17:21 greenjimll olenard: that looks like an improvement to me. Do many people use the staff interface in browser windows < 768 pixels (other than hackers like us with 15000 windows open)? 17:28 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #317: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/317/ 17:28 jenkins * claire.gravely: Bug 19678: Clicking Cancel when adding New Course to course reserves 17:28 jenkins * lari.taskula: Bug 19636: Hold priority changes incorrectly via dropdown select 17:28 jenkins * priya.patel: Bug 19713: Remove 2 occurences of OpacShowLibrariesPullDownMobile 17:28 jenkins * sherryn: Bug 13676: Fixing the OpacSuppression description 17:28 jenkins * bonniecrawford: Bug 18819: "UNIMARC is used in Europe" text changed to "UNIMARC is used 17:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19678 normal, P5 - low, ---, claire_gravely, Pushed to Master , Clicking Cancel when adding New Course to course reserves shows message Invalid Course! 17:28 jenkins * isabel.grubi: Bug 18313: Remove delicious link on social networks 17:28 jenkins * oleonard: Bug 19658: Style fix for staff client lists page 17:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19636 normal, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Pushed to Master , Hold priority changes incorrectly via dropdown select 17:29 jenkins * oleonard: Bug 19664: Reports sidebar menu should match list of reports on reports 17:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19713 trivial, P5 - low, ---, priya.patel, Pushed to Master , 2 occurrences of OpacShowLibrariesPulldownMobile have not been removed 17:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13676 trivial, P5 - low, ---, sherryn, Pushed to Master , OpacSuppression description says 'items' but means 'records' 17:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18819 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bonniecrawford, Pushed to Master , Correct "whereas UNIMARC tends to be used in Europe." in web installer files 17:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18313 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, isabel.grubi, Pushed to Master , Remove Delicious icon from OPAC social network links 17:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19658 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Style fix for staff client lists page 17:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19664 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Reports sidebar menu should match list of reports on reports home page 18:10 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #318: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/318/ 18:10 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Priya Patel 18:10 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Sherryn Mak 18:10 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Bonnie Crawford 18:10 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Isabel Grubi 18:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page 18:11 tcohen TFW you remember a return inside a Try::Tiny block is returning from the try/catch block, not the whole function... 18:37 tcohen bye #koha 18:37 ibeardslee love those jenkins comments at 07:10 NZDT! 19:06 oleonard I'm back! 19:15 rangi Joubu: its to do with the mariadb version I think, it fails in stretch 19:17 Joubu that's weird 19:18 rangi like if i change the float, to a decimal in the db it passes 19:18 rangi if not, 2.0000 becomes 2 19:18 rangi in the object 19:18 rangi its weird 19:30 tcohen rangi: maybe a bug in DBD::mysql? 19:31 rangi or DBIx::Class 19:31 wahanui hmmm... DBIx::Class is the direction we're going, though. 19:31 rangi either way, something to investigate on stretch anyway 19:32 tcohen when we wrote Koha::Object::TO_JSON we noticed the mysql driver wasn't handling some numbers as Perl numbers, but as strings 19:32 tcohen I blamed DBIC, but at the bottom, it was a problem in DBD::mysql 19:32 rangi its interesting it seems fine in jessie 19:32 tcohen it is worth reporting if you belive there's a bug 19:32 tcohen it took them 1 day to provide the fix 19:33 rangi and seems weird in stretch 19:33 rangi but havent got time to investigate more until the new year 19:33 tcohen pmvers DBD::mysql? 19:36 tcohen Joubu: bug 19841 19:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19841 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , AddMember should raise an exception if categorycode is invalid 19:55 oleonard rangi: Bug 19854 19:55 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19854 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED INVALID, spam 19:56 rangi ta 19:56 rangi gone 19:57 * oleonard Congratulations, l33t hacker, for posting a bug report. 20:00 oleonard Bye all. Bug 19474. 20:00 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19474 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Convert staff client CSS to SCSS 20:21 Joubu I have finally understand the point of the "alert" table and why the code was wrong. I removed it, see bug 19855 20:21 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19855 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the "alert" code to Koha::Subscription 20:22 Joubu It will hopefully prevent other brains to burn reading it 20:46 merry_n Hi 20:46 wahanui bidet, merry_n 20:47 merry_n I wonder if there's someone who catalogs archives in Koha? 20:47 merry_n Is there a way to create multilevel hierarchy in Koha? 20:48 merry_n Fonds>>Series>>Sub-series>>File>>Item 22:35 * cait waves