Time Nick Message 19:57 oleonard Bye all 19:00 LeeJ I always forget everyone else has an actual life outside of work lol 19:00 LeeJ that's true 19:00 oleonard It is Friday, after all LeeJ 18:55 LeeJ just like my soul and motivation, oleonard 18:54 oleonard No one here LeeJ. All empty. 18:35 LeeJ hi #koha 18:35 * LeeJ waves 18:29 jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #3: STILL FAILING in 19 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/3/ 16:29 * Joubu tries to imagine wahanui with mascara 16:20 clrh :) 16:19 fridolin f 16:19 fridolin thanks droj 16:19 fridolin whouuu packaging for 17.11 is out 15:37 reiveune bye 15:29 wahanui oleonard: sorry... 15:29 oleonard Why don't you go check your mascara, wahanui 15:28 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one 15:28 kellym good morning! 14:32 Joubu (I do not understand what I wrote either... sounds like I forgot a couple of words) 14:30 cait was reading too fast 14:30 cait yes, you are completely right 14:30 cait ah 14:29 cait i changed the 145$a, edited and now it shows the new value 14:29 cait Joubu: it worked for me 14:25 Joubu (I suggested a cronjob script to keep them in sync) 14:25 Joubu only when the subscription is edited 14:25 Joubu the additional fields are not updated when the bibliographic record is edited 14:24 Joubu if I edit the title of the record, I have a update the subscription 14:24 cait oleonard: the marc tag is optional, most of our libraries use it just to store additional information, links, binding information, etc. 14:23 cait oleonard: agreed! 14:23 cait we recently had an 'internal serials training' and some problems figuring that one out 14:23 oleonard I hadn't put in a subfield along with the tag. We should probably add some hints 14:23 cait cool 14:23 cait edit the subscription 14:23 cait if you edit it it updates 14:23 Joubu and the search/fitler works 14:23 cait ah 14:23 Joubu yes 14:22 cait if you make it searchable it turns up on the search 14:22 Joubu the field is disabled and filled when saved 14:22 Joubu edit works as well BUT it does not display on the edit/add page 14:22 cait so it won't get updated? 14:21 Joubu add a new one 14:21 cait now when you add the subscription or when you edit it too? 14:21 Joubu xxx: E Street shuffle : 14:21 cait ok, we did the same 14:21 Joubu Additional fields: 14:21 Joubu and the interface displays: 14:21 Joubu | 1 | subscription | xxx | | 245$a | 1 | 14:21 cait hm 14:21 Joubu 245$a 14:20 cait how did you enterß 14:20 Joubu works for me 14:20 cait i put it on the docs wish list i think,t he page has no real help 14:20 cait i think we entered 245$a 14:20 cait maybe we did it wrong 14:20 Joubu says 14:20 Joubu It sais "This value will be filled with the 245$a subfield of the selected biblio." 14:20 cait Joubu: that didn't work for me :( 14:19 Joubu yes (or just after you save?) 14:18 Joubu when you edit a subscription, the additional field will be automatically filled with the value from the MARC 14:18 oleonard Is something supposed to appear in the field input on the subscription add/edit page? 14:17 oleonard What is supposed to happen if I create a field and specify a tag? 14:16 wahanui the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" 14:16 Joubu oleonard: what's the question? 14:09 oleonard Anyone here familiar with the "additional fields" option for serials? 13:34 * LibraryClaire shoos away the ghosts 13:32 * tcohen got up too early and forgot the pill 13:31 tcohen IIIIIIIIIII love teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeests 13:31 oleonard Ghosts. 13:29 LibraryClaire I was bug testing and got an internal server error and since then it hates me, even on master 13:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18685 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Patron edit/cancel floating toolbar out of place 13:28 oleonard It was about Bug 18685 13:28 oleonard Joubu: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2017-06-12#i_1943005 13:28 LibraryClaire Anyone know what triggers the offline circulation module to think of you as 'offline'? Mine won't let me sync or look at pending things cos I'm 'offline' (but I'm very definitely online) 13:15 oleonard To be fair, it was a suggestion for a bug fix rather than an enhancement. I'll try to find it. 13:15 Joubu what's the bug number? 13:14 oleonard ...no one else who happened to be reading the bug I guess. 13:14 oleonard At the time no one else said they did :) 13:13 Joubu I like it 13:13 oleonard That was an idea for changing the way the patron search options work 13:12 Joubu where is that? 13:12 Joubu oleonard: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/14966687495978 13:11 oleonard Current evidence feels circumstantial. http://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15127385983967 13:04 eythian Breaking news indeed. 13:03 oleonard There is evidence that we have a "sun" here to eythian. I'll continue to check throughout the day and provide you with updates. 12:49 eythian (and luckily avoided a nasty looking hailstorm.) 12:49 eythian This morning I got snowed on 12:49 eythian huh, there's some kind of "sun" thing visible outside at the moment. 12:44 wahanui hi olé onard 12:44 LibraryClaire hi oleonard 12:41 oleonard Hi all 10:19 wahanui kia ora, eythian 10:19 eythian hello 10:18 ashimema but right now doesn't :'( 10:18 * ashimema shirks back to the day job.. which will hopefully involve koha again come february 10:17 ashimema :) 10:11 andreashm (testing to see if I can get it to work on 17.05, in order to apply 15165) 10:10 * andreashm upgraded mojolicious+the open api plugin yesterday 10:10 andreashm the resource exists... but it seems I've broken.... something in the endpoints/api 10:09 andreashm if its correct its 200 I think 10:09 ashimema or are you saying the actual resource exists and still gives a 404 after auth 10:09 andreashm ok, now it makes sense 10:09 ashimema right? 10:09 ashimema or if it does we give a 200 10:09 ashimema if you then authenticate and hit the route again.. if the actual resource doesn't exist we give a 404 10:08 andreashm ah 10:08 ashimema so.. we're doing the latter.. if a route 'might' exist and needs auth we send a 403 10:08 andreashm but in this case I have authenticated. 10:08 ashimema but the latter can open up a DDOS avenue 10:07 ashimema other people say you shuold use the proper 403 (to say you need to authenticate) 10:07 andreashm bofre that, it correctly gives an authentication error 10:07 ashimema so it's some peoples opinion that if a resource requires authentication then it should be entirely hidden from the world (i.e. a 404) if there is no authentication.. 10:07 andreashm nope, when I've gotten a cookie 10:06 ashimema is that when your not authenticated on authenticated routes? 10:06 andreashm all endpoints 10:05 andreashm I get 404 for everything (patrons, checking hold, accountlines) 10:05 ashimema I don't know what koha chose ;) 10:05 andreashm yeah, but I'm looking at something that does excist 10:05 ashimema there are three types of failure we need to work on for such a case.. 401, 403 and 404 and there are various idea's out there about which one's you should use when you take into account security policies.. 10:04 tcohen on the DB 10:04 tcohen for example, you might be trying to GET /api/v1/patrons/666 but there's no such patron id 10:03 tcohen if you are asking for a non existent resource, you should definitely get a 404 10:02 tcohen it depends on what you are asking for 10:02 andreashm tcohen: going back to the rest issue. if I don't login first I get an authentication error. which would seem that there is an endpoint. but after login I get a 404. seems weird to me. either it's there, or not? 09:56 cait paul_p: around? 09:53 cait josef_moravec++ 09:35 josef_moravec magnuse: it would be great! could you send me the config? 09:34 magnuse josef_moravec: if you can/want to use my installation for testing you are more than welcome! 09:34 josef_moravec cait: the numbers, I know ;) 09:34 josef_moravec magnuse: no problem, I do try something ;) 09:34 magnuse josef_moravec: sorry, i must confess i don't remember how i did the installation... 09:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client 09:33 andreashm josef_moravec: hurray for testing bug 10662! 09:31 cait sorry, really bad with numbers 09:31 josef_moravec cait: thanks, I'll look into it and comment "somehow) ;) 09:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5620 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Signed Off , Capture Mode of payment 09:30 cait bug 5620 09:30 cait hah 09:29 cait better yougo and qa something before I get there ... :) 09:29 cait bit of a crazy week, need to get organized this weekend, be afraid starting next week 09:28 cait she is still working up to it 09:28 * tcohen is surprised the new QAM hasn't pushed him yet into QAing stuff 09:27 cait josef_moravec: looking for the payment type bug... probably got the number confused once again 09:26 josef_moravec magnuse: could I have a Question? What is the simplest way to install Fuseki for testing? 09:25 magnuse josef_moravec++ 09:18 andreashm we might have to upgrade to 17.11 instead 09:18 andreashm yeah 09:16 tcohen it would be easier to achieve on 17.11 09:16 tcohen so I suggest you don't go that way in production 09:15 tcohen the required changes to the codebase include changes to the core libraries more often 09:15 tcohen (for example) 09:15 tcohen GET http://kohadev-intra.myDNSname.org:8081/api/v1/patrons 09:14 tcohen i.e. 09:14 tcohen and then use RESTer to emulate the interactions 09:14 tcohen I usually login into a privileged account 09:14 andreashm I ran the testsuite. lots of failed tests 09:14 tcohen but on newer firefox I had to use RESTer 09:13 andreashm I'd like to check that the update/install actually works. before trying more with Kohas endpoints 09:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15165 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Failed QA , REST API routes to list, edit and pay borrower's accountlines 09:13 andreashm tcohen: I've upgraded to 17.05. to get bug 15165 to work I updated mojolicous and openapi (manually, since the patch for 18137 didn't apply). after that nothing works. =) 09:13 tcohen I used HttpRequester on Firefox 09:13 tcohen to interact with the API 09:13 tcohen or you can just use a separate tool 09:12 tcohen there are tests for the existing endpoints 09:11 tcohen some context? 09:11 andreashm tcohen: do you know any way I can test Mojolicious/the open api plugin directly to see if they work as intended? 09:07 LibraryClaire hey tcohen, andreashm 09:04 magnuse ~o~ 09:04 tcohen hye magnuse LibraryClaire 09:03 andreashm hi LibraryClaire 09:03 * LibraryClaire waves 09:03 andreashm hi magnuse and fridolin btw! 08:54 * andreashm probably messed up big-time somewhere 08:54 tcohen andreashm: he, step by step I guess 08:54 * andreashm tried to get open api to work with 17.05. soooooo not working. gah. 08:54 fridolin hi 08:54 magnuse tjänare andreashm, tcohen 08:54 andreashm tcohen: no accountlines on your rest api list i noticed? =) 08:53 andreashm hi tcohen 08:52 tcohen bonjour 08:46 * andreashm waves 08:26 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B 08:26 wahanui niihau, gaetan_B 08:26 gaetan_B hello 08:25 * magnuse had an uncle who was a druid 08:25 magnuse LibraryClaire: i can imagine 07:57 LibraryClaire so in summer and winter a lot of people go there to celebrate, many of them are druids 07:56 LibraryClaire it should rise directly above one of the stones 07:56 LibraryClaire the stones are positioned to align with the sunrise on the two solstices 07:54 magnuse LibraryClaire: cool! are there things in stonehenge that are aligned with the solstice? 07:50 reiveune hello 07:15 LibraryClaire Maybe that's a good thing 07:13 LibraryClaire I am going to the UK for Christmas and will be visiting Stonehenge, but will probably miss the solstice by one day! 07:13 LibraryClaire :D 07:10 magnuse or... i prefer to see xmas as a (delayed) celebration of the solstice, so that way there is plenty of celebration 07:10 magnuse too close to xmas, i guess 07:09 magnuse i have tried to make it a tradition, but some years i forget... 07:09 magnuse there is very little celebration of the winter solstice 07:09 magnuse less than two weeks now and days start getting longer 07:09 LibraryClaire brrr 07:08 LibraryClaire ok 07:08 magnuse but maybe 4 hours - if you want light like an overcast summers day 07:08 LibraryClaire :D 07:08 magnuse depends on how light you want it before you count it as light... 07:07 magnuse hehe 07:07 * LibraryClaire shoos wahanui 07:07 wahanui for how long are they open? 07:07 LibraryClaire for how long? 07:07 magnuse but it does get light in the middle of the day 07:07 magnuse right now it is completely dark 07:06 LibraryClaire magnuse: do you have a winter solstice party? 07:06 LibraryClaire is it dark now? 07:06 * magnuse counts the days before the sun "turns" 07:04 LibraryClaire :D 07:04 josef_moravec_away ha 07:04 LibraryClaire hi josef_moravec_away :) 07:04 josef_moravec_away hi LibraryClaire 07:01 LibraryClaire hi #koha 06:56 josef_moravec_away morning #koha 06:55 magnuse ~~~ 03:46 chea i don't know where to start from this.. 03:46 chea 01157nam#a0000313ua#124 001001300000008004100013010001500054015001900069016001800088020003100106035002300137040003500160050002400195100002300219245005500242250001200297260003400309300003600343500002000379504005100399650003200450650003100482650002100513906004500534925004200579955019800621082001100819876001300830###86104385#091014r20111985nyua 001 0 eng a2009042360 aGBB0316702bnb7 a0154953282Uk a9781259060632 (alk. paper) aOCoLC)ocn45672 03:46 chea it's something like this 03:45 chea mtj: after imported into Marcedit 03:41 fk mtj: thank you 03:31 chea :) 03:31 chea i see... thank for sharing.. let do a try.. 03:30 mtj yep.. so i might need to use macedit to correct those problems ^ 03:28 chea mtj: i tried to export MARC from NGL and import into Koha but the records came with partial only. 03:27 mtj chea: the best general advice is to use MarcEdit to get your bib/item records ready for import in Koha 03:24 mtj the bug is assigned to its components admin, by default 03:23 mtj ..every component has a default admin user 03:22 mtj fk, every bugs has a 'component' 03:20 fk Even if the bug wasn’t changed since it was reported 03:19 fk Because there’s always someone whom the bug is assigned to 03:19 fk Can someone explain to me how the assignee of bugs is determined by Bugzilla 03:17 fk mtj: hm, yeah. the httpd can create the required ETags 03:17 mtj advice too :) 03:15 mtj ..someone is asking for advise in 2009 and 2015 03:15 mtj you can google ... 'newgenlib to koha migration' 03:14 chea mtj: thank for the info. : ( 03:11 mtj chea: i think there is not too much info about NGL to Koha on the web ... :'( 03:06 mtj https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_cache.html 03:06 mtj ...with mod_cache perhaps? 03:05 mtj gandaro, i think no.. caching would be a job for the http or http-proxy service? 03:05 mtj gandaro, i think no.. that might be the caching would be a job for the http or http-proxy service? 03:01 mtj no probs, tcohen 02:55 chea hello, anyone can advise how to migrate database from NewGenlib to KOHA! thanks! 02:41 gandaro Does Koha support HTTP caching? 02:37 wahanui hmmm... everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver 02:37 gandaro hey everyone 02:36 tcohen docker node 02:35 tcohen Thanks for taking care mtj 02:35 tcohen Hi everyone 01:56 chea I was trying to import MARC record from newgenlib to KOHA but it came with partial 01:53 chea anyone can advise how to migrate database from NewGenlib to KOHA! 01:52 chea Hi everyone 01:39 mtj fo the logs.. :0) 01:39 mtj in... ./intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/js/background-job-progressbar.js 01:38 mtj backgroundJobProgressTimer = setInterval("updateJobProgress()", 10000); 01:37 mtj ..a happy number for both system and user 01:36 mtj great news tho... fix is to increase the sleep value to 10 secs 01:35 mtj hi wizzyrea, no... the requests are from the same job-id... so potentially just a single job/ single browser 01:33 mtj ...seems that the background-job-progressbar.js refresh is every 500 milliseconds 01:31 wizzyrea possible that they clicked GO GO GO GO GO GO GO on something, not realising it was already going? 01:31 wizzyrea hm we haven't seen that one 01:30 mtj have others had their servers DOS'd by lots of 'background-job-progress.pl' queries? 00:43 tcohen mtj++ 00:30 mtj btw, really great news from sweden too 00:05 mtj the /.git/objects/pack dir seems a bit biggish (39 gig) 00:03 mtj ...but, there may be an index/pack problem with the Koha_17.11_D8 repo? 00:00 mtj ping Joubu, tcohen.. jenkins/docker3 is up again