Time Nick Message 00:07 mtj ping rangi, the kalogger twitter was something i set up... a while ago.. :) 00:07 rangi ahh cool 00:07 rangi was just wondering who ran it :) 00:07 mtj i noticed the urls have an encoding bug 00:07 rangi *nod* 00:08 mtj im curious to know how it works... i cant remember at all 00:09 mtj pevk: sudo apacheclt -S 00:10 mtj ^ ...its a good command to show you what sites apache has 'enabled' 00:11 mtj its poss. you have another (default?) site on port:80 that is overriding your koha sites 00:12 mtj # sudo a2dissite 000-default 00:13 mtj ^ that command often fixes the problem 00:13 mtj http://man.he.net/man8/a2dissite 00:19 mtj rangi: ill add the logger to my 'list of things to fix' :) 00:21 mtj Joubu, congrats on 17.11 too 00:24 mtj . 00:24 mtj what do the release people think about jenkins building vaious scratch/dev repos 00:26 mtj it would be a useful way to get a repo tested... without having to push to an offical/public repo 00:27 mtj ..i'd be happy to help sort something if people were keen 00:31 mtj . 00:31 mtj has anyone else had problems with the inventory.pl script and plack, in recent (>= 16.11) releases? 00:33 mtj inv.pl seems to hang plack while its running, sometimes for long few minutes - other instances respond ok-ish 00:35 mtj ..the database looks happy, so seems to suggest plack is the bottleneck 00:43 mtj hmm, i wonder if increasing 'koha-plack --workers' might help here... 02:46 mtj ..looks like that did the trick :) 07:20 fridolin hi 07:22 LibraryClaire morning #koha 07:39 reiveune hello 07:42 alex_a bonjour 10:22 tcohen morning 12:27 Joubu @later tell marcelr What else did I miss? I would not have missed it if the status was set correctly :) should have been >= major, not normal 12:27 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 12:30 oleonard Hi all 12:36 eythian hi oleopard 12:36 oleonard Congratulations on the release Joubu, thanks for all your hard work. 12:37 Joubu thanks oleonard for all your signoffs :) 12:49 oleonard Anyone know why kohadevbox is saying "Auto packing the repository in background for optimum performance." every time I do anything lately? 12:54 * oleonard wonders how he managed to create 5 duplicates of Bug 19669 12:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19669 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Remove deprecated checkouts by patron category report 12:55 oleonard Oh yeah that's the report that kept triggering an error every time I "tried" to submit it. :| 13:05 * LibraryClaire waves 13:06 eythian hi LibraryClaire 13:06 LibraryClaire can anyone give me a hint on activating plugins on my devbox? I changed the koha-conf.xml file, restarted apache and activated it in the sysprefs, but it still insists plugins aren't turned on :( 13:06 LibraryClaire hi eythian 13:07 * eythian immediately suspects memcache when seeing that kind of thing 13:07 LibraryClaire I suspected something like that 13:07 oleonard restart_all 13:09 LibraryClaire service memcached restart ? 13:09 eythian I'd expect that to do it 13:09 LibraryClaire ok well it didn't fix the problem then :( 13:09 oleonard Try restart_all 13:09 LibraryClaire just that on its own? 13:10 oleonard Yes 13:10 oleonard It restarts plack, memecached, and apache 13:10 LibraryClaire well now i have 17.11 13:10 LibraryClaire hello web installer 13:11 eythian oh, plack could also do that. 13:11 eythian caching is hard 13:11 LibraryClaire the plugins are still disabled though, even on shiny nwe koha 13:12 LibraryClaire do I need to give the koha-conf.xml file a URL for plugins or anything? I only changed the setting to 1 13:13 LibraryClaire pluginsdir>__PLUGINS_DIR__</pluginsdir> 13:14 oleonard I found yesterday that the plugins directory defined in /etc/koha/sites/kohadev/koha-conf.xml did not exist 13:14 oleonard LibraryClaire: Make sure you're looking at that koha-conf.xml, and check the pluginsdir there. 13:15 LibraryClaire are there stil two files with the same name? 13:15 LibraryClaire cos I spent ages trying to find another one earlier but couldn't 13:15 Joubu yep, add pluginsdir and enable_plugins to your koha-conf if they do not exist 13:16 oleonard LibraryClaire: The koha-conf.xml which has "__PLUGINS_DIR__" isn't the one in active use by your Koha installation. 13:16 LibraryClaire narf 13:16 LibraryClaire ok, but if I go to 7etc there is no folder called koha in there 13:18 Joubu LibraryClaire: sudo koha-shell $INSTANCE 13:18 Joubu then vim $KOHA_CONF 13:18 tcohen morning 13:19 LibraryClaire well would you look at that. the enable plugins is 0 in that one 13:19 LibraryClaire hi tcohen 13:19 Joubu nengard: Hi! Do you have access to @kohails? 13:20 nengard Hi Joubu looks like I still do - what email should I set up for that account? 13:21 nengard it was using my old work email 13:28 LibraryClaire any hints on why I don't have permission to edit the koha conf file from koha-shell? If I try with sudo it tells me my password is wrong 13:28 oleonard Yeah I get the same thing 13:29 LibraryClaire interesting 13:29 tcohen LibraryClaire: you can edit it using sudo vim /etc/koha/sites/kohadev/koha-conf.xml 13:29 tcohen and sudo -s (from the vagrant user) should yield a root shell 13:31 LibraryClaire thanks tcohen 13:32 LibraryClaire every time I lose the location of that file and every time I write it down and then lose that 13:33 LibraryClaire you will all be pleased to know my plugins are now active 13:33 eythian the drama, the suspense! 13:36 oleonard http://cdn-img1.imagechef.com/imgout/171129/samp90fa8307d2397e0b.jpg 13:37 eythian it's almost as much as waiting for this package from amazon that's apparently going to take 4 days to arrive even though it's coming from just over the border in Germany. 13:37 LibraryClaire oleonard: yes! 13:42 Joubu LibraryClaire: sudo apt install mlocate; sudo updatedb; then you can use the "locate" command to find files on your filesystem 13:42 Joubu like `locate koha-conf` 13:45 oleonard So, uh... Anyone know why kohadevbox is saying "Auto packing the repository in background for optimum performance." every time I do anything lately? 13:46 LibraryClaire thanks Joubu :) 13:49 Joubu oleonard: every time? Even if it finishes? 13:49 Joubu ha wait, I think I put something in my git conf few months ago 13:50 Joubu hum, nope 13:50 oleonard Every time. For instance, when applying patches with git-bz, it runs for each patch. 13:52 Joubu did you try to run manually the gc and repack command? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8633981/what-does-auto-packing-the-repository-for-optimum-performance-mean 13:53 MosesNew sir can anyone help in kw,wrdl: i know its a really old error but im new with the system. so i dont know what to do please anyone 13:54 oleonard What problem are you having MosesNew? 13:54 alex_a_ Anyone can tell me what is the status of a reserve that have F in the column found ? 13:56 MosesNew sir leo i cant find any result in the search catalog and even in the OPAC. even we have books stored . 13:59 oleonard MosesNew: What version of Koha are you using? Do you manage the installation yourself? 14:04 MosesNew 17.5 , first we are using 16.05 with no problems but when we are trying to host it . the one who we paid to host end up remaking our koha and using 17.5 . so we are now facing this problem 14:10 MosesNew 17.5 , first we are using 16.05 with no problems but when we are trying to host it . the one who we paid to host end up remaking our koha and using 17.5 . so we are now facing this problem 14:10 MosesNew oleonard-away:17.5 , first we are using 16.05 with no problems but when we are trying to host it . the one who we paid to host end up remaking our koha and using 17.5 . so we are now facing this problem 14:12 fridolin v17.11 is out 14:12 fridolin whouuuu 14:16 Joubu MosesNew: you should reindex 14:18 MosesNew <Joubu> reindex sir ? 14:19 Joubu MosesNew: you should first backup your database then install Koha on a debian or ubuntu server following the official documentation 14:21 Joubu you will then reinject the database and reindex zebra with "koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f $instance" 14:21 MosesNew so sir we need to reinstalled all ? 14:23 MosesNew sir do we need to change version too ? 14:23 tcohen MosesNew: no reinstall is needed. You only need to run 'koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f <instance>' as Joubu said 14:23 tcohen replacing <instance> with your created instance's name 14:28 MosesNew thank you all sirs for the help i will try this and i hope it works. thank you again sir. im really thankful for the help sir . 14:29 clrh hello 14:36 Joubu Hi clrh :) 14:37 Joubu Erk too late for MosesNew, it would have been good to know who was "the one he paid" 15:44 oleonard [off] I like the sound of "Sir Leo." Y'all can use that if you want. 15:50 eythian yeah nah 15:59 oleonard No digest for auto-renewal notices? Boo. 16:08 Joubu oleonard: bug 18532 16:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18532 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , AUTO_RENEWALS should be a patron messaging preference 16:10 oleonard Am I correct in thinking the automatic_renewals script looks for any item which is overdue and can be renewed? 16:13 Joubu nope 16:13 oleonard Only things which are due today 16:13 Joubu it looks for issues that have been marked as "auto renew" 16:14 Joubu and then there are the "no auto renew before/after" settings to control the behavior 16:15 Joubu (in the circ rules table) 16:17 oleonard What is the unit being asked for in that setting? 16:19 Joubu day 16:19 pevk hey guys can anyone help me. I am trying to open the online catalogue using http://127.0.1.1:80 (Online catalogue) but it opens up Apache2 Ubuntu Default Page. 16:20 pevk I am unable to get to the OPAC page. 16:20 Joubu pevk: disable the default site 16:20 pevk i am able to open the staff client page using http://127.0.1.1:8080 16:21 pevk how do I disable the default site? 16:21 Joubu sudo a2dissite 000-default 16:21 pevk ok 16:21 Joubu then reload apache 16:21 pevk how do I reload apache? 16:22 Joubu sudo service apache2 restart 16:22 pevk ok 16:23 pevk got it 16:23 pevk it works.. 16:23 pevk thank you 16:24 pevk :) 17:07 oleonard Joubu: How to tell Koha to automatically renew items only on the day they're due or after? 17:11 Joubu No renewal before=1? 17:12 Joubu =0? 17:12 oleonard These settings seem to be very mysterious :) 17:13 Joubu I would try 0 18:24 Freddy_Enrique Hi everyone 18:25 Freddy_Enrique I got a problem, i check out a book and now that I want to check it in I can´t 18:28 Joubu Koha version? 18:29 Freddy_Enrique 17.05.05.000 18:29 Freddy_Enrique a red line appear saying I can´t check in the book 18:30 Joubu go to the about page 18:30 Joubu and read https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DBMS_auto_increment_fix 18:31 Joubu did you check it in from the return.pl script? 18:31 Joubu the checkin tab 18:32 Freddy_Enrique https://snag.gy/veFgj0.jpg 18:32 Freddy_Enrique this is what appears 18:33 Joubu try using the checkin tab 18:33 Freddy_Enrique thoughts? I really hope it is just configuration 18:33 Joubu "Devolucion" tab 18:35 Freddy_Enrique https://snag.gy/Jy9gDR.jpg 18:35 Freddy_Enrique nothing.... 18:39 Joubu it's not the checkin tab 18:39 Joubu copy the barcode, go to /cgi-bin/koha/circ/returns.pl 18:39 Joubu and do the checkin 18:42 Freddy_Enrique uhm.... 18:42 Freddy_Enrique interesting.... 18:43 Freddy_Enrique https://snag.gy/3bYZx1.jpg 18:44 Joubu so, what I told, go to the about page, and read the wiki page 18:44 Freddy_Enrique This is really new to me.... 18:45 Joubu It should not, I spamed the mailing list about this problem 18:46 Freddy_Enrique Ok, Ill read it. But please give me the general picture 18:46 Freddy_Enrique if I dont follow the instruction what will happen? 18:47 Freddy_Enrique Some funtions will not work like what just happened? 18:52 Joubu Freddy_Enrique: the good news is that you are using a good version 18:53 Joubu you need to go to the about page to know how many of your data are "corrupted" 18:55 Freddy_Enrique according to this.... 18:56 Freddy_Enrique https://snag.gy/x17KsX.jpg 18:56 Freddy_Enrique items and loans 19:08 Joubu Freddy_Enrique: it's a new install? 19:09 rangi Joubu: i branched the 17.11 manual and have reorganised master, to remove the en directory to make it less confusing 19:09 rangi https://gitlab.com/koha-community-devs-users/kohadocs 19:10 Joubu rangi: sounds much better indeed :) 19:14 * cait waves 19:14 rangi hi cait 19:14 cait heya 19:25 rangi Joubu: merged the devs, be nice to figure out how do that automatically, maybe from the openhub api? 19:28 rangi the new layout is quite nice actually https://www.openhub.net/p/koha 19:31 Joubu rangi: yes I thought about it but did not find a quick way to do it 19:31 Joubu I will see if openhub has the info 19:31 rangi yeah, i can only see number of contributors 19:32 rangi it has the info, but i cant find it in their api 19:33 rangi https://github.com/blackducksoftware/ohloh_api#ohloh-api-documentation 19:44 Freddy_Enrique :Joubu 19:44 Freddy_Enrique Yes, I installed the 17.xx version 20:03 Joubu rangi: manual is broken 20:03 rangi which one? 20:03 wahanui which one is t? 20:03 Joubu ha 20:04 rangi https://koha-community.org/manual/17.11/en/html/ ? 20:04 Joubu sorry, forget that, I hit https://koha-community.org/manual/17.11/html/, '/en/' was missing 20:04 Joubu not sure why I have this url in my history.... 20:04 rangi https://koha-community.org/manual/17.11/fr/html/ <-- lots to translate here :) 20:04 rangi it used to just be without the en 20:04 rangi before we had the .po files 20:05 rangi https://koha-community.org/manual/17.11/de/html/ <-- fr is beating de tho 20:07 Joubu rangi: no "es"? 20:07 rangi i havent generated that, ill do that now 20:10 rangi i have to finish my work with travis CI, to get it to do this for me 20:12 Freddy_Enrique Excuse me Joubu, I need your help. In a couple of weeks ill import to the Koha system many Marc records of enciclopedy type... 20:12 Freddy_Enrique acording to the wiki, Koha community did not provide a way to deal with corrupted data yet 20:12 Freddy_Enrique should i wait the migration until I solve this problem? 20:13 wizzyrea um, there's totally a fix for that, it's just not a Koha fix 20:13 wizzyrea it's a mysql fix. 20:13 Joubu you have only 1 checkout and 1 item, the quick way would be to delete the row from old_issues and deleteditems 20:13 wizzyrea you will lose the history of that circ. 20:13 Freddy_Enrique And thats it? 20:14 Freddy_Enrique well, say I do it. Is there a way to prevent this to happen again? 20:14 wizzyrea yes, did you do the recommended mysql configuration outlined on the wiki? 20:14 Freddy_Enrique OMG, I should definitely read the koha wiki and Check my email.... 20:15 wizzyrea :) 20:15 Freddy_Enrique yeah, I use Maria DB 20:28 edveal Does anyone know of a good way to print out a patrons Circulation History? Everything I am finding is only printing current checkouts. Granted you could print the Circulation history page but it is messy at best. 20:37 edveal The dreaded wifi drop. LOL 20:37 wizzyrea someone microwaved something? 20:41 rangi Joubu: https://koha-community.org/manual/17.11/es/html/ 20:42 Joubu thanks! 20:43 rangi my plan was to have /epub/ and /pdf/ too, ill try to do that this weekend 20:44 rangi we should provide marc records for the newsletter and the manual so people can import it into koha ;) 20:45 Joubu yeah pdf and epub would be great as well 20:59 Joubu Anyone around for the dev meeting? 21:01 rangi yep 21:01 Joubu let's see 21:02 Joubu #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 29 November 2017 21:02 huginn Meeting started Wed Nov 29 21:02:09 2017 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:02 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:02 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_29_november_2017' 21:02 edveal I will lurk 21:02 Joubu #topic Introductions 21:02 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 21:02 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 21:02 greenjimll #info Jon Knight, Loughborough University 21:02 edveal #info Ed Veal, McKinney Public 21:03 wizzyrea #info Liz Rea, Catalyst NZ 21:03 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_29_November_2017 21:04 Joubu there is no agenda basically 21:04 Joubu #topic Announcements 21:04 cait meeting? 21:04 wahanui i think meeting is in two days, i thought was tomorrow. plenty of time then 21:04 Joubu Anyone have something? 21:04 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 21:04 cait sorry, just got home from a trip 21:04 Joubu cait: just in time :) 21:04 rangi #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst 21:04 Joubu #topic Update from the Release Manager (18.05) 21:05 Joubu #info Koha 17.11 has been released on November 28th 21:05 wizzyrea confetti 21:05 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 21:05 Joubu #info 17.12 cycle is going to start quite soon 21:05 wizzyrea more confetti 21:05 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' 21:05 cait Joubu++! 21:05 wizzyrea joubu++ 21:06 greenjimll 17.12? 21:06 Joubu See the proposal to know what is coming next https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Proposal_for_RM_18.05_joubu 21:06 cait the big push? 21:06 cait :) 21:06 Joubu 17.12 is dev cycle and will become 18.05 when released 21:06 rangi we number it 17.12 until the release when it becomes 18.05 greenjimll 21:06 wizzyrea until it gets to 18.05, it's development version 17.12 21:06 wizzyrea ^.^ 21:06 greenjimll Ah right. 21:06 Joubu guess you understood :) 21:07 wizzyrea can I just say I highly approve of this new numbering system. 21:07 Joubu I have nothing much to add to the proposal, I will certainly work a lot with Nick as he will be RMaints and RM assistant 21:07 wizzyrea it's good. Nice work everybody. 21:07 Joubu cait is back as QAM 21:07 Joubu 18.05 is promising :) 21:08 cait heh 21:08 cait I put some things i want to do in my proposal 21:08 cait I will try to get some things started the next few days 21:09 Joubu I communicated with Bernardo about the translations (manual), but not sure it has been done correctly 21:09 Joubu I think he did not retrieve the po files I updated to match the "new format" 21:09 rangi hmm yeah 21:10 Joubu so the new version of the manual is not ready to be translated yet, but should be soon (hopefully) 21:10 Joubu #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 21:10 cait i have started a wiki page for the manual translators 21:11 Joubu rmaints is kidclamp (17.11), fridolin (17.05), rangi (16.11) 21:11 Joubu rmaints? 21:11 wahanui well, rmaints is kidclamp (17.11), fridolin (17.05), rangi (16.11) 21:11 Joubu great :D 21:11 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Translating_the_Koha_Manual 21:11 Joubu #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 21:12 Joubu sorry cait 21:12 Joubu no, the point is that I updated the po files to remove all the weird stuffs from the old manual 21:12 Joubu ok 21:12 Joubu (I am tired) 21:12 Joubu the example is correct indeed 21:13 cait phew 21:13 cait I've updated the release maintenance page a bit 21:13 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_maintenance 21:14 cait and will send an email to rangi with bugs I was still hoping for a rebase or reply :) 21:14 Joubu yes, we may need to update RMaints with the new workflows we put in place during the last release 21:15 Joubu And I need to share some of the stuffs I wrote that could be useful for RMaints as well (pre-push git hook for instance) 21:15 cait and pleaaaase do string freezes 21:15 Joubu #info RMaints please do string freezes! 21:16 cait thx :) 21:17 Joubu cait: could you sent an email to RMaints with the link to the wiki + highligh the small changes we did + STRING FREEZE! ? 21:17 Joubu (and cc me) 21:17 cait i can do that 21:17 cait and also the link to the update po files form 21:17 cait i didn't put it on the wiki to not make spammers find it 21:18 Joubu thx 21:18 cait rangi: keys should be sent to you? 21:18 cait well i guess you only need kidclamp's 21:18 cait :) 21:18 Joubu he sent it 21:18 Joubu already 21:18 Joubu #topic Updates from the QA team 21:18 cait no update from me yet :) 21:19 cait have to catch up with things first, someone else here? 21:19 Joubu QA team is quite small, but we have 2 new guys, alex_a and josef_moravec 21:19 rangi yep i have them 21:20 Joubu #info QA team is quite small, but we have 2 new guys, alex_a and josef_moravec 21:20 Joubu #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 21:20 Joubu something? 21:20 wahanui something is sketchy 21:20 greenjimll Would people be adverse to me nudging some of the old bugs in Bugzilla to see if they are still needed/wanted/workable on? As part of "bug wrangling"? 21:20 wizzyrea that's a great thing to do. 21:21 greenjimll For example I've been looking at old REOPENED cases recently. 21:21 cait it might be good to always add some info or a question, to trigger things 21:21 cait not just a ping :) 21:21 cait greenjimll++ 21:21 greenjimll Yes, good point. In some cases I might be able to even slip a patch in. :-) 21:21 Joubu yes definitely useful 21:22 greenjimll OK, consider them ripe for wrangling. :-) 21:22 Joubu and group them, mark as duplicate, etc. 21:23 Joubu We have 2 days of hackfest in Buenos Aires (tomorrow and Friday) 21:23 Joubu Around 15 people will attend, mostly librarians 21:23 rangi cool! 21:24 cait awesome :) 21:24 cait is ther esomething specific you want to work on? 21:25 cait mark Academy bugs? 21:25 rangi that would be great 21:25 rangi aleisha is looking after the students next academy, in late january 21:25 Joubu I will present the 9 new features of 17.11 (shortly) and then we certainly present how to signoff patches 21:25 Joubu (I have no idea what we are going to do actually!) 21:25 Joubu we=tcohen and me 21:25 Joubu of course all of that is just an excuse to share some beers 21:25 Joubu yes please! 21:26 rangi :) 21:26 Joubu #topic Set time of next meeting 21:27 Joubu 13 December 2017, 13 UTC? 21:27 Joubu 14? 21:27 wahanui 14 is fine by me 21:27 rangi i wont be there but fine by me :) 21:28 cait i tihnk it's ok for me 21:28 greenjimll 14th December or 14:00UTC? 21:28 Joubu 14UTC 21:28 greenjimll Fine for me. 21:28 Joubu #info Next meeting: 13 December 2017, 14 UTC 21:29 Joubu #endmeeting 21:29 huginn Meeting ended Wed Nov 29 21:29:01 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 21:29 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_29_november_2017.2017-11-29-21.02.html 21:29 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_29_november_2017.2017-11-29-21.02.txt 21:29 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_29_november_2017.2017-11-29-21.02.log.html 21:29 Joubu thanks 21:29 greenjimll Thank you for all your hard work! 21:31 Joubu erk 21:31 Joubu general and dev meetings are scheduled on Dec 13th 21:31 cait oops 21:31 Joubu not the same time 21:33 greenjimll We've had both on the same day before, right? 21:34 Joubu yes but it is not ideal 22:22 reiveune bye 23:24 tcohen Joubu: 27 registered atendees, 4 of them IT people from universities 23:25 tcohen we have room for 20, so we'll kick the IT people and the RM :-P 23:26 Joubu awesome, we will wait you at the pub