Time Nick Message 03:01 mtj hey #koha, have other people heard-of/used MCE before? ... looks really useful 03:01 mtj https://metacpan.org/pod/MCE 03:03 * mtj just stumbled upon it today 03:27 mtj perhaps a better way of handling multiple MARC import jobs, on an instance 05:55 maya hi, Good Morning to all - Maya 05:58 maya how we can monitor and find that our koha application is working fine? Is there any place or files that we should look for errors and messages frequently? 06:37 LibraryClaire morning #koha 07:00 Harold Hi 07:00 Harold Good day from the Philippines :) 07:01 Harold Can I ask some question about upgrading koha? 07:17 jenkins Project Koha_16.05_D8 build #14: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_16.05_D8/14/ 07:19 magnuse Harold: ask whatever you want (related to koha) - if anyone can answer, they will 07:25 reiveune hello 07:25 wahanui kia ora, reiveune 07:44 alex_a bonjour 07:51 fridolin1 hi dear community 07:53 marcelr hi #koha 07:54 LibraryClaire hi marcelr 07:54 marcelr :) 07:54 LibraryClaire hi fridolin1 10:06 Harold Hi 10:06 Harold I have koha 3.12 10:07 Harold I need to upgrade it to version 17 or 16 10:08 Harold how will I do it? 10:08 Harold apt-get update and apt-get upgrade on ubuntu 12.04 is not supported anymore 10:14 eythian ubuntu 12.04 is not supported any more at all by anyone, I'd start by upgrading that. 10:16 cait @later tell LeeJ ping! 10:16 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 10:17 cait Harold: i think what eythian said - you should think about a general server update, because not getting security fixes etc is bad 10:21 Harold my main problem is that I can't upgrade my ubuntu 12.04 to 16.04 10:22 Harold I have already tried several times but still to no afford 10:22 eythian you're going to have to, it's pretty much the only option. 10:22 Harold for now I just want to transfer the Koha data from 12.04 to a new instance of koha 17.05 on a new server 10:23 Harold but my challenge there is that the database structure of the new version is different from the old version 10:23 Harold how do I install a fresh 12.04 version of Koha instead? 10:24 Harold so that I can just transfer the database then upgrade from there 10:26 Harold everytime I add repositories it only either oldstable stable or unstable 10:26 Harold oldstable is already version 16 10:27 Harold how do I make it 12.04? so that I will have a fresh installatio of version 12.04 to a new server with upgraded OS then I will just export and import the koha database from the old server 10:27 Harold please help thank you :) 10:28 eythian moving the database over should be fine. It will attempt to bring it up to a current version. 10:28 eythian You'll want to test this first. 10:41 cait magnuse: really like the new'is logo 10:45 * kidclamp waves 10:46 marcelr o/ 11:10 maya hi to all 11:10 maya how we can monitor and find that our koha application is working fine? Is there any place or files that we should look for errors and messages frequently? 11:15 kidclamp hi maya, there are log files, they may have some noise. The about page has sections to warn of system configuration issues, maybe I am not sure exactly what you are looking for 11:36 maya kidclamp < we are implementing koha, as koha is open source we are not sure about it's stability in production environment, how often it crashed and if something happened we need to ready . 11:42 kidclamp open source is more stable I would say :-) but I work here 11:43 kidclamp Koha is very stable and used by many (many many) libraries 11:44 kidclamp There are support vendors too if you need server support etc. 11:44 kidclamp marcelr, still here? 11:44 marcelr yes 11:44 kidclamp you know some about OAI? 11:44 marcelr dont use it often 11:45 kidclamp bug 15108 seems to have made OAI give deleted records first and by default - I am wondering if this is expected 11:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15108 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, RESOLVED FIXED, OAI-PMH provider improvements 11:46 marcelr should have a look again; did the sort order change ? 11:47 kidclamp I think so 11:49 kidclamp yeah, we do deleted order by biblio first, then existing order by biblionumner 11:49 kidclamp is causing problems when EBSCO harvests 11:50 maya so you are saying installing stable koha version on debian in reliable. But if anything bad happens where we can look for support , because in india there are very few affordable koha support options are available and and theire expertise is questionable then how we can continue with that? 11:50 marcelr kidclamp: is there an option to exclude deleted records? 11:53 kidclamp if using a resumption token yes - it seems to - but as I understand the harvest used by providers simply makes a list records request and continues from that - default there is to include deleted now (not sure if it was in past), but now they come first and that seems to be a change 11:55 kidclamp I am going to file a bug and see if I can get olli or ere to respond 11:56 marcelr good 11:56 kidclamp thanks marcelr 11:59 maya kidclamp - so you are saying installing stable koha version on debian in reliable. But if anything bad happens where we can look for support , because in india there are very few affordable koha support options are available and and theire expertise is questionable then how we can continue with that? fully managed hosting support is all we need to have to run koha in production envoirnment? 12:03 kidclamp maya: As a general statement I would say Koha is stable, for managing/support I don't know that I can answer your question, it may be something better to ask on the listserv 12:04 maya ok, thanky you kidclamp :-) 12:05 maya kidclamp - what is "listserv" ? 12:06 kidclamp lists? 12:06 wahanui try 'listserv', kidclamp 12:06 kidclamp listserv? 12:06 wahanui try 'mailing list', kidclamp 12:06 kidclamp mailing list? 12:06 wahanui well, mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 12:06 kidclamp maya^ 12:06 kidclamp 3 tries, every time, i never learn 12:06 jcamins wahanui: really? Two corrections? 12:06 wahanui jcamins: i haven't a clue 12:07 kidclamp don't ruin my game jcamins - someday I will get it right 12:07 jcamins You could stack the deck, you know. 12:07 cait kidclamp: wasn't there a pref about the deleted in OAI? 12:08 maya great, thank you for your kind support :-) 12:09 kidclamp afaict cait that only affects the listing for Identify verb 12:09 kidclamp tells you what to expect of deleted records 12:18 cait oh 12:18 cait good to know :) 12:47 tcohen morning 12:51 marcelr hi tcohen 12:51 tcohen hi marcelr 12:53 oleonard HELLO 12:54 marcelr HEY OLEONARD 12:54 wahanui hmmm... OLEONARD is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer 12:58 oleonard Thanks for getting into the spirit of things wahanui 13:03 tcohen hehe, good morning oleonard 13:07 jenkins Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #81: FAILURE in 30 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_16.11_D8/81/ 13:16 magnuse that was quick, jenkins 13:30 tuxayo_ magnuse: is it normal that the link to the build goes 404? 13:31 magnuse hm, not sure 13:31 magnuse i rarely click on them :-) 13:37 jajm tcohen, hi! i added a comment to https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19234, can you take a look ? 13:37 huginn 04Bug 19234: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add query parameters handling helpers 13:38 tcohen jajm: yes, I was about to post an answer 13:38 jajm :) 13:38 jajm thanks 13:39 tcohen jajm: thanks for your input 13:39 tcohen in short, it all points to having Koha::Objects->search_for_api 14:28 eythian wahanui: email list is <reply>try 'lists', $who 14:28 wahanui OK, eythian. 14:29 * cait waves 14:29 * LeeJ waves 14:31 * magnuse waves 14:36 kidclamp trying to get me to do another step magnuse? 14:37 magnuse another step? 14:37 wahanui another step is just to check for general disk I/O problems, and check my RAID settings on the filesystem you're using for zebra's indexes 14:37 magnuse ah yes, that is exactly what i was hoping kidclamp would do 14:38 kidclamp heh, I always start at lists? and take 3 hops to get my answer, now I can start with email list? and take 4 14:43 magnuse ah, but then eythian is perhaps your culprit? 14:43 * eythian blames magnuse 14:44 eythian in the expectation that magnuse will then blame me 14:44 magnuse git irc-blame eythian 14:55 tuxayo_ I heard about a bot that checks if the patches still apply on master. Is that still the case? 14:55 oleonard That bot was active for a while, but no longer. 14:57 tuxayo_ Was is also running the test suite? 14:57 wahanui okay, tuxayo_. 14:58 tuxayo_ wahanui: what? 14:58 wahanui i haven't a clue, tuxayo_ 14:58 tuxayo_ XD 14:59 tuxayo_ Did wahanui just ran something due to my message? 15:09 oleonard Was? 15:09 wahanui Was is, like, cql.. or forget.. jcamins care to pipe up ;) 15:09 oleonard Was? 15:09 wahanui i guess Was is running the test suite? 15:12 eythian http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/polizei-justiz/grosseinsatz-in-berlin-lichtenberg-rohrbruch-flutet-frankfurter-allee/20591664.html <-- pipe broke in Berlin 16:39 reiveune bye 16:40 jenkins Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #82: SUCCESS in 3 hr 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_16.11_D8/82/ 16:40 jenkins pongtawat: Bug 17610 - Allow the number of plack workers and max connections to be 16:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17610 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , [16.11.x] Allow the number of plack workers and max connections to be set in koha-conf.xml 17:12 oleonard Bug 19641 is going to be a beast. 17:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Move patron templates to the footer 17:45 oleonard Anyone know who manages http://splitter.koha-community.org? 17:46 edveal No idea. 17:48 oleonard @later tell rangi Do you manage http://splitter.koha-community.org? Wondering who can make it up to date 17:48 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded. 20:00 * cait waves 20:00 cait hi #koha 20:15 edveal Hi cait 20:15 cait hi edveal :) 21:01 kidclamp_away oelonard++ 21:01 kidclamp_away oleonard++ 21:05 cait oh what did he do this time? :)