Time  Nick          Message
03:53 pianohacker   @later tell wizzyrea lol, why does catalyst have an entire ipv6 /32?
03:53 huginn`       pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
05:47 marcelr       hi #koha
06:17 reiveune      hello
06:17 wahanui       privet, reiveune
06:26 marcelr       @later tell tcohen what's the status of qa for 10306/19096 ?
06:26 huginn`       marcelr: The operation succeeded.
06:40 * magnuse     waves
06:41 * magnuse     hopes atheia wraps up bug 7317 today
06:41 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7317 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Failed QA , Add an Interlibrary Loan Module to Circulation and OPAC
06:49 alex_a        bonjour
07:27 gaetan_B      hello
07:40 fridolin      hi
07:40 wahanui       salut, fridolin
08:06 eythian       hi
08:06 wahanui       que tal, eythian
11:06 kidclamp_away marcelr++
11:07 magnuse       hiya kidclamp
11:07 kidclamp      morning magnuse
11:07 magnuse       afternoon
11:07 wahanui       i think afternoon is good
11:08 kidclamp      too early to consider timezeons :-b
11:08 kidclamp      how are you?
11:09 magnuse       busy!
11:10 magnuse       now that we norwegians (almost) have ill the swedes want it too...
11:11 kidclamp      :-)
11:13 magnuse       and yerself?
11:14 kidclamp      also busy, but well
11:15 kidclamp      running a half marathon on sunday, excited forthat
11:17 magnuse       ooh, have fun with that!
11:36 cait          kidclamp: be careful but have fun :)
11:38 cait          Joubu: around?
11:58 oleonard      Hi all
11:59 tcohen        morning oleonard
11:59 tcohen        and all
12:01 cait1         hi tcohen :)
12:01 tcohen        hi tomascohen[m]
12:01 tcohen        hi cait
12:01 kidclamp      morning tcohen
12:11 magnuse       \o/
12:17 tcohen        hi magnuse
12:17 wahanui       kamelåså
12:28 ammopt        hello all
12:28 ammopt        I have a question about DBMS_auto_increment_fix
12:29 ammopt        is the solution documented in
12:29 ammopt        https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DBMS_auto_increment_fix#The_solution
12:29 ammopt        reliable?
12:29 cait1         it migiht make a mysql restart slower
12:29 cait1         but it shoudl keep the problem from happening
12:29 cait1         if you already have bad data, it won'f fix that
12:30 ammopt        okay
12:30 ammopt        thank you
12:30 ammopt        so, in other words
12:30 ammopt        i should run that, restart mysql
12:30 ammopt        and manually fix the corrupted data
12:30 ammopt        im runnin 16.11.12 and when that bug happens, it seems im loosing data
12:30 cait1         it so that it is run every mysql restart automatically
12:31 ammopt        checkin doesnt exist in issues and checkout is never created on old_issues
12:31 ammopt        ah i see it's a startup script
12:31 cait1         yep
12:31 ammopt        did not notice that
12:31 ammopt        was only seeing the code section
12:31 ammopt        ty
12:31 cait1         np
12:31 cait1         make sure to change to your db name etc
12:32 ammopt        yy
12:32 ammopt        ty
12:32 ammopt        also cait, is it normal to have data loss in 16.11.12?
12:32 ammopt        from this bug?
13:09 eythian       a better solution would be to not share IDs.
13:17 tcohen        eythian: or have only one table, with a boolean column
13:18 eythian       tcohen: that can make accessing things slower when there's lots of data.
13:18 eythian       though I prefer it from a cleanliness point of view I think.
13:18 tcohen        I bet it doesn't
13:19 eythian       it must by definition
13:19 tcohen        yes, but it might not hurt
13:19 tcohen        maybe more space for indexes
13:20 eythian       it also runs the risk of making caching less effective. But you'd really want to see benchmarks to be sure.
13:20 tcohen        yeah
13:20 tcohen        we better get rid of MySQL
13:20 tcohen        :-D
13:20 eythian       I approve of that in general :)
13:30 * magnuse     is starting to like ansible
13:56 Joubu         hi
13:56 wahanui       hey, Joubu
14:08 ammopt        heyo
14:08 ammopt        yes, we are indeed having loss of data with the DBMS auto increment bug
14:08 ammopt        in 16.11.12
14:09 ammopt        the failed checkins are not even showing in the "About" Corrupted data section
14:11 ammopt        in the last 40 hours, we've had 95 checkins, 20 of which have failed due to the bug
14:13 Joubu         so you should setup the fix
14:14 ammopt        nevermind that, 4 of the 95 checkins have failed
14:15 ammopt        i have 20 entries in the logs because the staff member tried several times for the same item
14:15 ammopt        yes i should set it up
14:15 ammopt        seems hacky tho
14:16 Joubu         not that much
14:17 ammopt        in theory, after i setup the fix
14:18 ammopt        i should just checkin those items through the circulation module
14:18 ammopt        and those issues are fixed?
14:19 ammopt        or first delete them from old_issues and then checkin from the circulation the module
14:20 cait1         the latter
14:20 wahanui       the latter is probably better - circ history first and then make sure the first pk is correct in issues - an example should be in updatedatabase from when we added the pk to reserves/old_reserves
14:20 cait1         you won't be able to check in
14:25 ammopt        thanks a bunch for your help guys
14:25 ammopt        ill do just that
14:25 ammopt        however, wahanui, i dont follow what you're saying
14:25 ammopt        how would i make sure the pk is correct in issues? im looking in updatedatabase.pl and there's a bunch of updates
14:33 cait1         wahanui is a bot - he just reacts to certain words
14:33 cait1         in this case it is confusing :)
14:33 cait1         wahanui: mailing lists
14:33 wahanui       mailing lists are http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
14:33 cait1         wahanui forget the latter
14:33 wahanui       cait1: I forgot latter
14:41 ammopt        ah cait lol thanks
14:42 ammopt        and saving me the humiliation, it was indeed confusing xD
14:42 cait1         sometimes he is scarily human :)
14:42 cait1         including the bit about confusing
14:42 ammopt        xD
14:42 cait1         wahanui?
14:42 wahanui       yes, cait1?
14:42 cait1         wahanui botsnack cookie
14:42 wahanui       thanks cait1 :)
14:42 ammopt        lol
14:43 cait1         scary
14:43 cait1         scary?
14:43 cait1         germs?
14:43 wahanui       Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
14:46 ammopt        rofl
14:46 ammopt        is this documented somewhere? xD
14:46 tcohen        kohacon?
14:46 wahanui       kohacon is Next KohaCon will be held in Portland
14:50 tcohen        kohacon?
14:50 wahanui       hmmm... kohacon is going to be held in Portland in 2018 (https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon18_Proposals)
14:50 tcohen        that's better, wahabui
14:50 tcohen        botsnack
14:55 cait1         ammopt: i think you can ask for him to list the commands availabe... but i forgot how :)
14:56 kidclamp      wahanui: listfacts
14:56 wahanui       kidclamp: huh?
14:56 kidclamp      listfacts
14:56 kidclamp      @listfacts
14:56 huginn`       kidclamp: I've exhausted my database of quotes
14:56 kidclamp      we have something like that
14:57 ammopt        ah ofc lol
14:57 kidclamp      @listfacts
14:57 huginn`       kidclamp: I suck
14:57 kidclamp      naw, I just don't know how to make a bot happy
15:13 reiveune      bye
16:04 * LeeJ        waves
16:04 LeeJ          hi #koha
16:11 Joubu         https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings
16:14 kidclamp      Joubu++
16:20 tcohen        Joubu++
16:27 tuxayo        Joubu++
16:30 Joubu         tuxayo: good to see you here :)
16:30 Joubu         did you try the "Koha how-to"?
16:31 Joubu         the crash course the guide you through the different steps of a patches submission
16:31 Joubu         the crash course to* guide you through the different steps of a patches submission
16:32 * LeeJ        waves to cait
16:33 LeeJ          cait: I completely forgot there was a documentation meeting yesterday :(
16:33 cait          I had sent a reminder :)
16:33 cait          but it's ok, you'd only have ended pu with lots of action items :)
16:34 LeeJ          I know you sent it..been having an off week
16:35 Joubu         There is now the Koha agenda you can add to your own agenda and the new page on the wiki (Next_IRC_meetings)
16:35 cait          don't worry about it
16:35 Joubu         s/can add/have to add/ :)
16:35 cait          hm why a new page?
16:36 Joubu         it collects the next meetings on one page, just click https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings :)
16:38 LeeJ          Joubu++ # oooh fancy
16:40 cait          ah :)
16:40 cait          how is it fed?
16:40 cait          from irc meetings page or in some other fancy way?
16:40 Joubu         cait: I have now a script that will do everything, koha-meetings.pl --update page_id
16:41 cait          but where does it get its information? :)
16:41 Joubu         it will update the minutes and the next meeting blocks, will create a new page based on the templates I have created, add the event to the agenda and update this "Next IRC meetings" page
16:42 Joubu         so I command when a meeting is ended, y nada mas :)
16:42 Joubu         s/I/1 # almost the same...
16:56 LeeJ          cait: not sure if I'm just outright not seeing it, but has there ever been a section for SVC?
16:57 LeeJ          *has there ever been a section for SVC in kohadocs
16:57 cait          hm
16:57 cait          maybe look for rest api
16:58 cait          i think there might be something about the parts for cataloguing... but that might have been the wiki
16:58 LeeJ          okay..because we should probably have that documented too I'd think
16:59 cait          maybe as it's quite technical the wiki is ok for now https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_/svc/_HTTP_API
16:59 cait          or we could reference
16:59 LeeJ          ahh..there IS mention of the REST API
17:00 LeeJ          so it doesn't need to be added! :D
17:00 cait          heh :)
17:01 LeeJ          I only thought of it when I was working on documenting the connexion daemon and it mentioned svc/import_bib so that's why I asked :)
17:05 LeeJ          cait: I don't know when it was moved (if at all) but there's a cron job path typo that's retroactive back to at least 16.11 :-\
17:06 cait          not so surprised
17:06 cait          fix it! :)
17:06 LeeJ          Update Authorities is listed as misc/migration_tools/merge_authority.pl
17:06 cait          going to prep dinner, super hungry, bbiab :)
17:06 LeeJ          okay! Enjoy!
17:30 * cait        is waiting for the oven to finish dinner now
17:31 * LeeJ        would bet cait is sitting there with knife and fork in hand excited for food
17:31 cait          heh close
17:31 LeeJ          cait: https://media.giphy.com/media/84ZzhsJZWlE3e/giphy.gif
17:31 cait          last food was 8 hours ago :)
17:31 LeeJ          :O
17:34 LeeJ          @seen magnuse
17:34 huginn`       LeeJ: magnuse was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 4 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: * magnuse is starting to like ansible
17:34 LeeJ          magnuse: around?
17:49 cait          wrong time for him
17:49 cait          usually
18:05 LeeJ          fair enough
18:07 LeeJ          @later tell magnuse I'm working on updating the cron job documentation..can you explain/describe nl-sync-from-koha.pl and nl-sync-to-koha.pl for their descriptions in documentation? Thanks!
18:07 huginn`       LeeJ: The operation succeeded.
18:10 LeeJ          cait: I know you're busy with dinner but when you get chance, where should we list printoverdues.sh?
18:19 cait          um
18:20 cait          where is overdue_notices?
18:20 cait          LeeJ++ :)
18:20 cait          LeeJ: tiny typo in your merge request - can you fix in a follow up? impoort
18:21 LeeJ          shoot..I thought I corrected that after the paste
18:21 LeeJ          certainly
18:22 cait          merged
18:23 LeeJ          :D
18:27 LeeJ          cait: that worked well putting it under overdue_notices
18:28 LeeJ          is anyone from BibLibre here currently?
18:29 cait          probably too late - 20:30 on a friday :)
18:31 LeeJ          ahh right
18:31 LeeJ          the time difference slips my mind some days
18:31 LeeJ          was going to ask someone about the social_data crons
18:32 cait          :)
18:49 LeeJ          cait: should I create a new category 'Reports' for runreports.pl? Or under an existing category?
18:51 cait          hm new one sounds good
18:51 cait          i can't think of something similar
18:51 LeeJ          nor can I :)
18:57 LeeJ          cait: hmm..what about sitemap.pl? :)
19:01 cait          huh
19:01 cait          something opac maybe?
19:01 LeeJ          misc/cronjobs/sitemap.pl
19:02 LeeJ          I think maybe under Search? The script usage says it's purpose is to give search engines direct access to biblios
19:04 cait          that's even better
19:04 LeeJ          :)
19:15 LeeJ          that feeling when you type out 4 cron job entries then click something wrong and the pages changes and everything goes *poof*
19:15 LeeJ          :(
19:17 cait          ugh
19:18 LeeJ          not as bad as when I was working on sysprefs and lost 20 changes :)
19:20 cait          maybe you want to consider the sporadic use of ctrl + a , ctrl + c
19:20 cait          :)
19:21 LeeJ          I'm so used to using Notepad++ and Sublime that I forget :)
20:23 huginn`       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12768: DBRev 17.06.00.018 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d637acd08c11d694e04954592e7ac8d7c1ed8c13> / Bug 12768: (follow-up) Add 'Processing fee' to templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=97ff6ae44d24c998502c3fc81d3ade69f7a70f8f> / Bug 12768: (QA follow-up) Fix doubled code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ecddf87f5636
20:26 cait          offsets
20:26 cait          exciting!
20:27 Joubu         that will need to be tested (again) in the next weeks I thiknk
20:29 cait          yes
20:30 cait          but it's good to see us moving a bit on fixing accounts
20:30 tcohen        Joubu: git reset —hard origin/master and I still get a weird satus
20:30 LeeJ          cait: just sent another merge request! That wraps it up for the cron jobs that I can do on my own without explanation!
20:31 cait          excellent
20:31 cait          looking now
20:31 cait          and it named = and is named? :)
20:32 Joubu         tcohen: what are you talking about? status of what?
20:32 LeeJ          the only ones left that I can't do yet are two that I'm waiting to hear back from magnuse on, two that I need an explanation from someone at BibLibre then one maintenance script cron that appears to have failed QA
20:32 LeeJ          cait: oh dear..I did another one didn't I?
20:32 cait          heh
20:32 cait          but fixed at least one too
20:32 cait          merged :)
20:32 LeeJ          :D
20:33 cait          that's why we proof read before merging
20:33 cait          doing my job!
20:33 LeeJ          I'll go in and fix that typo now and send a followup merge
20:33 LeeJ          cait: I'm just making sure you're awake is all ;)
20:36 LeeJ          cait: typo fix merge request :)
20:38 cait          merged :)
20:38 LeeJ          :D
20:38 * LeeJ        releases the balloons
20:39 cait          you are certainly leading on manual contributions :)
20:39 LeeJ          haha
20:39 LeeJ          just doing my part now that I have some "free" time to dedicate it
20:40 LeeJ          cait: while I wait for answers back on the others, what's next? :)
20:40 cait          hm
20:41 cait          notices?
20:41 wahanui       notices are not generated
20:41 cait          i already started a list :)
20:41 LeeJ          ah so you did :)
20:41 LeeJ          cait++
20:43 LeeJ          jzairo++ # for the work on patron clubs
20:46 LeeJ          @later tell jzairo I'm going through the koha manual todo list to see what still has to get done...is there anything that needs to be updated/deleted/re-written for Rancor?
20:46 huginn`       LeeJ: The operation succeeded.
20:47 Guest6582     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #272: UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/272/
20:47 Guest6582     * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Do not return an item if not checked out
20:47 Guest6582     * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Fix MarkIssueReturned.t
20:47 Guest6582     * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Refetch the object to get up-to-date values
20:47 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19487 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Internal server error when writing off lost fine for item not checked out
20:47 Guest6582     * eric.vantillard: Bug 18564: Improve koha-common.cnf parsing to pick the mysql host
20:47 Guest6582     * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18961: Use exact match for select filters on item search
20:47 Guest6582     * nick: Bug 16187: Add a script to cancel unfilled holds after a specified
20:47 Guest6582     * m.de.rooy: Bug 16187: (QA follow-up) Additional fixes
20:47 Guest6582     * Jonathan Druart: Bug 16187: Do not use DateTime directly
20:47 Guest6582     * Jonathan Druart: Bug 16187: accept --verbose and -h
20:47 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18564 normal, P5 - low, ---, eric.vantillard, Pushed to Master , koha-common.cnf parsing is too restrictive
20:47 Guest6582     * oleonard: Bug 19348: Title column in item search is too narrow
20:47 Guest6582     * oleonard: Bug 19356: Move staff client cart JavaScript to the footer
20:48 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18961 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Datatable column filters of style 'select' should do an exact match
20:48 Guest6582     * kyle: Bug 14826: Update database
20:48 Guest6582     * kyle: Bug 14826: Add Koha::Account::Offset(s) modules
20:48 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16187 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Add a script to cancel unfilled holds after a specified number of days
20:48 Guest6582     * kyle: Bug 14826: Resurrect account offsets table
20:48 Guest6582     * kyle: Bug 14826: Unit Tests
20:48 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19348 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Title column in item search is too narrow
20:48 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19356 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move staff client cart JavaScript to the footer
20:48 Guest6582     * kyle: Bug 14826: Add offset for rental fees
20:48 Guest6582     * kyle: Bug 14826: Add unit tests for _FixAccountForLostAndReturned and
20:48 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14826 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Resurrect account offsets table
20:48 Guest6582     * kyle: Bug 14826: (QA follow-up) Only use plural modules in other modules
20:48 Guest6582     * kyle: Bug 14826: Add account offset type table
20:48 Guest6582     * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 14826: (QA follow-up) POD fixes
20:48 Guest6582     * kyle: Bug 14826: (QA follow-up) Make db update idempotent
20:48 Guest6582     * Jonathan Druart: Bug 14826: DBIC Schema changes
20:48 Guest6582     * Jonathan Druart: Bug 14826: DBRev 17.06.00.017
20:48 Guest6582     * charles: Bug 12768: DB changes
20:48 Guest6582     * charles: Bug 12768: Replacement cost and processing fee management
20:48 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12768 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Pushed to Master , Replacement cost and processing fee management
20:48 Guest6582     * kyle: Bug 12768: Fix up unit tests
20:48 Guest6582     * kyle: Bug 12768: Revert changes to getcharges
20:48 Guest6582     * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12768: Add missing IGNORE clauses
20:48 Guest6582     * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12768: Fix YAML syntax in circulation.pref
20:48 Guest6582     * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12768: DBIC Schema changes
20:48 Guest6582     * kyle: Bug 12768: Fix up unit tests a bit more
20:48 Guest6582     * kyle: Bug 12768: (QA follow-up) Add 'Processing fee' to templates
20:48 Guest6582     * nick: Bug 12768: (QA follow-up) Fix doubled code
20:48 Guest6582     * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12768: (follow-up) Add 'Processing fee' to templates
20:48 Guest6582     * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12768: DBRev 17.06.00.018
20:50 cait          LeeJ: we do need a rancor chapter at all ... :(
20:50 cait          but jzairo said she'd write something up
20:58 LeeJ          hmm
20:59 LeeJ          cait: we don't have a dedicated chapter but there's a rancor section under cataloging
21:02 LeeJ          cait: well I'm going to head out since my weekend starts in a few minutes..I might chip away at some tomorrow though :)
21:10 cait          @later tell LeeJ totally missed that! yay for the fixed search
21:10 huginn`       cait: The operation succeeded.
21:10 LeeJ          cait: I just looked under the rst file :D
21:15 LeeJ          have a good weekend all!
21:15 huginn`       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14826: account_offset_types.sql is not in the mandatory subdir <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99f73373e2461c10c3933332b8981dd1a4b403e5>
21:18 Guest6582     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #273: ABORTED in 41 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/273/
21:18 Guest6582     Jonathan Druart: Bug 14826: account_offset_types.sql is not in the mandatory subdir
21:18 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14826 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Resurrect account offsets table
21:19 Joubu         misc4dev needs to be updated to turn it green again
21:20 cait          Joubu: where do the account_offset_types display?
21:20 cait          just wondering... why have untranslatable text instead of codes?
21:20 tcohen        cait: 	nowhere
21:21 tcohen        khall traced all 'hardcoded values' and put them in a table for future flexibility
21:22 cait          why not switch to codes? or use the codes we already have in the other table?
21:22 cait          and what is dropbox?
21:22 wahanui       dropbox is really cool
21:22 cait          heh
21:23 tcohen        you know, baby steps, cait
21:23 Joubu         sorry I have to go, have a great week-end #koha
21:23 cait          bye Joubu
21:23 tcohen        enjoy Joubu!
21:23 cait          tcohen: it's a once column table?
21:23 cait          untranslatable
21:26 cait          sorry, just wondering, don't understand - but bit late to ask questions
21:56 alexbuckley   hi #koha
21:59 cait          hi alexbuckley :)
22:00 tcohen        hi alexbuckley
22:02 alexbuckley   I'm doing a bit of testing at the moment
22:04 alexbuckley   have either of you got patches you would particularly like tested?
22:05 Guest6582     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #274: STILL UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/274/
22:06 cait          not right now, everything in needs sign off is good :)
22:06 alexbuckley   :)
22:07 tcohen        a second look at 16759 would be awesome
22:08 alexbuckley   sure tcohen :)
22:09 tcohen        thx!
22:15 cait          :)
22:45 cait          night all"
22:45 cait          !
22:48 alexbuckley   night cait