Time Nick Message 00:07 dcook @later tell bgkriegel Hey Bernardo, can you email me if you see this? I'd like to add a language to Koha :) 00:07 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 00:07 dcook @later tell tcohen Do you know if bgkriegel is around at the moment? 00:07 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 00:07 wizzyrea what language? 00:07 wahanui language is probably filed letter by letter word by word 00:07 * dcook waves to Francesca 00:07 dcook wizzyrea: Tuvaluan 00:07 wizzyrea noice 00:07 * Francesca waves at dcook 00:08 dcook Have some willing translators :) 00:08 Francesca hi 00:08 wahanui hola, Francesca 00:08 wizzyrea that's fab 00:08 wizzyrea hi Francesca 00:08 dcook I was hoping to show them how to get started in person, but I think bgkriegel has been off the channel for about two weeks now and hasn't answered his email the past few days 00:10 dcook wizzyrea: Do you have much experience with installing languages with the Koha Debian packages? 00:10 Francesca how are you all? 00:10 dcook I keep wondering if updates would splat their packages.. 00:10 * dcook is sick :( 00:11 wizzyrea updates would splat their translations yes 00:11 wizzyrea but 00:11 wizzyrea you can specify "do not update translations" 00:11 wizzyrea when apt installs 00:12 wizzyrea well, it wouldn't splat them if the translation didn't exist in upstream 00:12 Francesca urgh being sick sucks 00:12 Francesca I was sick last week 00:12 wizzyrea so for example if you had tv-TV for example, 00:12 wizzyrea many example. 00:12 wizzyrea but upstream didn't have that 00:12 Francesca wizzyrea I see you are looking for a dog 00:12 wizzyrea upstream wouldn't have anything to overwrite and they'd be fine 00:12 wizzyrea I am 00:12 Francesca thats awesome 00:13 wizzyrea dcook ^ 00:13 wizzyrea sorry I'm walking away to go vote - bbiab 00:13 dcook vote? 00:13 wahanui rumour has it vote is going to the list regardless of what we decide 00:14 dcook wizzyrea: Ahh ok. That's how I figured that would work as that's how RPMs go about things as well. 00:14 * dcook is going to give packaging Debs a go at some point when he finds some time 00:14 dcook RPMs are so easy to make. I'm sure Deb packages can't be that hard.. 00:14 dcook Especially with the build snapshot script already there 00:15 dcook Francesca: Between me and my kid, I feel like we've been sick for months :( 00:15 Francesca :( 00:15 Francesca I hope you all start feeling better soon! 00:16 dcook Thanks :) 00:18 Francesca @wunder wlg 00:18 huginn Francesca: Error: No such location could be found. 00:18 Francesca @wunder Wellington, New Zealand 00:18 huginn Francesca: Error: No such location could be found. 00:18 Francesca O.o 00:28 dcook O_O 00:33 wizzyrea yeah wunder is broken 00:35 jcamins wizzyrea: or maaaaayyybbeeeee you live in an imaginary fairy land where it's tomorrow already. :P 00:36 * wizzyrea looks around 00:36 wizzyrea definitely a fairy land. 00:36 dcook @wunder syd 00:36 huginn dcook: Error: No such location could be found. 00:36 wizzyrea honestly, it's broken. 00:36 dcook hehe 00:37 dcook I always like to try things myself! 00:37 jcamins @wunder 11375 00:37 huginn jcamins: Error: No such location could be found. 00:37 wizzyrea you are all dead to me. 00:38 wizzyrea (that's a joke, you know.) 00:40 jcamins wizzyrea: I don't know, the fairy land could be very disconnected. :P 00:41 wizzyrea naw 01:55 wizzyrea anyone around, can you confirm, on 16.11.11, does the patron search work for you? 01:55 wizzyrea i can't get it to work. 01:55 wizzyrea and seems no bugs. 01:56 wizzyrea and no errors 01:56 wizzyrea just death. 01:56 wizzyrea not death so much as it just doesn't work. 02:06 Joubu wizzyrea: Hi! Check the js console, may be a json formating issue 02:06 wizzyrea mmm seems unlikely that would be the problem across every installation, and it works in 16.11.10? 02:06 wizzyrea with the same data? 02:07 wizzyrea does it work for you? 02:07 wizzyrea (fwiw there's nothing in the console) 02:08 wizzyrea thank you for thinking about it :) 02:08 * Joubu is trying 02:08 * Joubu will be a bit slow 02:10 wizzyrea it's late for you I know 02:10 wizzyrea or early 02:10 mtj hey wizzyrea... -> https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18551#c31 02:10 huginn 04Bug 18551: minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to Stable , Hide with CSS dynamic elements in member search 02:11 Joubu wizzyrea: almost work for me 02:11 Joubu on v16.11.11, when I enter a term in the header, nothing is return 02:11 wizzyrea it must be that one mtj 02:11 Joubu but if I hit the button again (from the filters on the left), it works 02:12 wizzyrea you are right it does 02:12 mtj ..i bumped into it last week 02:12 wizzyrea how come that didn't come back on a search for "patron search" 02:12 wizzyrea annoying. 02:12 wizzyrea :) but YAY mtj! 02:14 wizzyrea thank you both 02:14 Joubu sounds related indeed :) 02:14 Joubu bye! 02:14 wizzyrea good night 02:14 wahanui I watch you sleep. 02:15 wizzyrea oh wahanui you are so silly. 03:05 jenkins Project Koha_Master build #259: STILL UNSTABLE in 3 hr 15 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/259/ 03:49 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 03:49 mtompset @seen Joubu 03:49 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 34 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <Joubu> bye! 03:50 mtompset @seen marcelr 03:50 huginn mtompset: marcelr was last seen in #koha 4 days, 17 hours, 17 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <marcelr> see you later #koha (in about three weeks) 03:51 mtompset @seen cait 03:51 huginn mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 1 day, 10 hours, 11 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <cait> but I could apt-get it in ubuntu which was a plus 03:52 mtompset @seen fridolin 03:52 huginn mtompset: fridolin was last seen in #koha 4 days, 20 hours, 17 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <fridolin> ah oki, otherwise it will be for next release 03:52 mtompset Wow, I'm not having much luck at finding people associated with this bug. 03:52 wizzyrea it's kinda night 03:53 wizzyrea for most people :) 03:53 wizzyrea also hi 03:53 mtompset Night for me in Canada, but I thought it would be like morning in Europe/Asia. 03:54 wizzyrea like 3am? 03:54 wizzyrea still a bit early :) 03:54 mtompset Oh... okay. 03:54 wizzyrea well 4 03:54 wizzyrea it's 15:54 here 03:54 wizzyrea and we are 12 off of GMT 03:54 mtompset :) 03:54 wizzyrea 12-ish, depending on the state of daylight savings 03:54 mtompset Do you have Koha Security bug access? 03:54 wizzyrea I do 03:55 mtompset Care to take a look at bug 18956? 03:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18956 is not accessible. 03:55 mtompset Sorry, huginn, you aren't privileged enough. :) 03:57 * wizzyrea reads the bug 03:58 mtompset It's easy enough to test. Just a lot of test cases to be thorough. :) 03:58 mtompset I forgot to check the message queue table. :) 04:06 mtompset And with the time passing midnight, I think I'll turn into a pumpkin and sleep. 04:06 wizzyrea sorry I'm heaps busy today :( 04:06 mtompset No problem, wizzyrea. 04:06 wizzyrea some of it self inflicted, some not 04:06 mtompset I totally get the busy problem. 04:06 mtompset I get that too, unfortunately. 04:07 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha wizzyrea :) 04:07 wizzyrea you too :) 06:17 reiveune hello 06:17 * magnuse waves 07:24 gaetan_B hello 07:24 wahanui hola, gaetan_B 08:01 fridolin hie there 09:54 * kidclamp waves 11:23 kidclamp matts around? 11:23 kidclamp @later tell matts take a look at bug 19296 please :-) 11:23 huginn kidclamp: The operation succeeded. 11:52 magnuse @later tell oleonard i get a heap of 404s for things like css and js on https://www.myacpl.org/koha/category/koha/customizations/ 11:52 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 12:04 matts hi kidclamp 12:04 matts I'll test your patch as soon as I can 12:09 kidclamp thanks matts 12:10 * cait waves 12:10 cait matts: we have submitted a patch for single-log out 12:10 kidclamp hi cait 12:10 cait it's in the 'signed off' queue (with cas) 12:10 cait in case you want to take a look 12:11 cait @later tell LeeJ I think rancor was an inofficial project name, but maybe we should explain that so peopel still find it 12:11 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 12:11 cait @later tell LeeJ - I didn't add it, maybe i missed it when searching? odd! 12:11 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 12:13 kidclamp yeah, I make sure to add rancor to all the bug titles just for ease of use, I push the name as 'advanced cataloging editor' is a lot more syllables 12:18 matts cait, okay 12:29 magnuse has anyone else noticed changes in the OAI-PMH server after upgrading to 17.05.x? specifically changes in the "extended mode"? 12:35 cait magnuse: we are ont there yet 12:35 magnuse lazy ;-) 12:46 Joubu hi #koha 12:47 kidclamp hi Joubu 12:49 LeeJ hi #koha 12:50 LeeJ forgot to log out when I left work yesterday :) 12:50 cait saw my laters? 12:51 LeeJ cait: got your laters...also, how do we want a chapter for Rancor defined? As in its own RST file? Or still under Cataloging? 12:51 cait it's a good question 12:51 cait I haven't quite figured out hte structure yet 12:52 LeeJ haha I figured it was worth asking :) 12:52 cait it looks like the web version displays the contenst of the file as toc 12:52 cait could you vreify? 12:52 LeeJ how do I access it? Brain's a bit foggy in the morning :P 12:53 cait https://koha-community.org/manual/17.11/html/ 12:53 cait hm looking at the toc... i think we should porbably keep it in one file for now, what do you think? 12:53 cait i was thinking that we should change the style of the manual a bit 12:53 cait so that the toc is wider 12:54 cait i think that would help readability a lot 12:54 LeeJ what is toc exactly? 12:54 LeeJ term doesn't ring a bell 12:55 LibraryClaire tea or coffee 12:55 cait table of contents 12:55 cait i thought that was a common thing :) 12:56 tcohen morning 12:56 tcohen @later tell dcook I don't think he is. You can contact him by email 12:56 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 12:59 LeeJ LibraryClaire: hahahaha 12:59 LeeJ ooooh 12:59 * LibraryClaire bows 12:59 * LeeJ needs a caffeine IV drip 13:00 LibraryClaire it's such tv and popcorn weather 13:00 * LibraryClaire makes plans for this evening 13:01 Joubu dev meeting in 1h 13:01 LeeJ on the bright side, I had an epiphany last night for a plugin to streamline my library's closed stacks workflow so I'm pretty excited to get some work done today 13:01 cait Joubu: might miss it, or catch the end of it 13:02 cait bbl 13:03 cait LeeJ: will check your merge request later today hopefully 13:04 LeeJ Joubu: just FYI..I started taking college classes again this semester and I'm in class 10-11:30 Mon to Fri so I'll do my best to sit in on them when possible during class 13:05 LeeJ inconvenient timings on their meeting times but no alternatives :( 13:05 LeeJ *class meeting times 13:05 Joubu k 13:11 LeeJ kidclamp: recall that JS to prevent on shelf holds for a shelving location you wrote for us last year? :) 13:14 kidclamp vaguely 13:15 * kidclamp writes a lot of js, just because I don't remember doesn't mean it wasn't special though 13:18 kidclamp was there a problem LeeJ? 13:18 LeeJ kidclamp: no! In fact, it helped me get an idea for my dematic work :) 13:18 LeeJ kidclamp++ 13:19 oleonard Every JS is special kidclamp 13:19 kidclamp so true 13:20 LeeJ kidclamp: I hadn't really looked at that JS since you wrote it but now that I understand Koha a lot better I noticed that it pulled from a report..so just saying kidclamp is an excellent source of inspiration :) 13:24 kidclamp aw shucks 13:24 kidclamp one thing to watch for is data getting cached in public reports, it does happen sometimes 13:29 LeeJ yeah I had considered that..fortunately the data I'd be working with gets updated infrequently 13:29 LeeJ general question..isn't there a syspref to default to all libraries in the OPAC? 13:32 LeeJ basically asking if the masthead default can be changed? I recall seeing something at some poiint 13:34 LeeJ SearchMyLibraryFirst ? 13:34 wahanui i guess SearchMyLibraryFirst is set to "Don't limit". 13:34 kidclamp doesn't it default to all libraries? OPAC_SEARCH_LIMIT lets you override and set to a branch in the apache config 13:34 kidclamp ah 13:34 LeeJ I think I found the right option..I had that pref set to limit 13:35 LeeJ didn't know wahanui listed syspref defaults 13:35 LeeJ welp class time! 13:57 Joubu Please read second part of http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2017-August/043991.html 13:59 mveron Hi again #koha 14:01 kidclamp meeting time! giving a mintue for folks to arrive 14:03 kidclamp #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 13 September 2017 14:03 huginn Meeting started Wed Sep 13 14:03:13 2017 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:03 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:03 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_13_september_2017' 14:03 kidclamp #topic Introductions 14:03 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 14:03 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 14:03 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 14:03 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_13_September_2017 #empty 14:04 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions 14:04 JesseM #info Jesse Maseto, BWS 14:05 mveron #info Marc Véron Switzerland 14:05 caboose #info Michael Cabus, BWS 14:05 barton #info Barton Chittenden, BWS 14:06 kidclamp ping fridolin cait 14:06 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Library, Ohio 14:07 kidclamp #topic Announcements 14:07 Joubu none from me 14:07 * oleonard seems to only attend meetings which he is inadvertently present for 14:07 oleonard pianohacker here? 14:08 kidclamp none from me 14:08 dani #info Danielle Elder, BWS 14:08 tcohen Can I? 14:08 kidclamp go for it tcohen 14:08 tcohen Jonathan and I are almost finished with dockerizing the jenkins tests 14:08 tcohen I expected to have it earlier 14:09 tcohen we might be capable of doing so for the stable branches 14:09 tcohen with a small effort 14:09 tcohen I repeat the request for people familiar with Docker to aid us 14:09 tcohen :-D 14:10 tcohen done 14:10 * oleonard once wore a pair of Dockers khakis, FWIW. 14:10 kidclamp #info Dockerizing jenkins is almost done, anyone with Docker experienced is welcome to help 14:10 kidclamp #topic Update from the Release manager (17.11) 14:10 fridolin #info Fridolin Somers, Franche, Biblibre 14:11 Joubu QA sprint was good, and NQA queue is growing again, so I guess we will organise another one soon. 14:11 fridolin RMint 17.05 14:11 Joubu I am going to announce feature freeze very early, as I do not want to see people active only the last month before the release. 14:11 Joubu So nothing marked as (real) enh will be pushed after October ~25th 14:11 oleonard Joubu++ 14:11 tcohen Joubu++ 14:11 Joubu If you want things to get pushed, it's now (and last 4 months...) 14:12 kidclamp #info QA sprint went well, will organise another as queue grows 14:12 Joubu I am waiting for the docker on jenkins to be ready to push Rest API related patches. 14:12 kidclamp #info early feature freeze, so get enhancements in before 10/25 14:12 Joubu on the dev side, I am going to work on bug 19297, there are very weird things in this area 14:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19297 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Standardize "can place hold" calculations 14:12 kidclamp #info REST patches awaiting docker/Jenkins completion 14:13 Joubu and the move to OOP makes things more easy and understandable. I hope I will be able to clean that area 14:13 Joubu patches are coming soon 14:13 Joubu but it's not a RM related job, you can move on :) 14:13 kidclamp #info Joubu working on bug 19297 too 14:14 kidclamp #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 14:14 kidclamp fridolin 14:14 wahanui fridolin is busy at the moment, I asked him to backport the bug fix 14:14 fridolin kidclamp: yep thanks 14:14 Joubu Ha! And security releases last month, next ones are going to include security stuffs as well 14:15 fridolin indeed 14:15 fridolin next release will be 17.05.04 14:15 fridolin not a lot of patches because of my vacansions 14:16 fridolin but i check on bugs major and more 14:16 kidclamp #info security releases last month and upcoming 14:16 fridolin and i've pushed patches about translation 14:16 fridolin nice work btw 14:16 kidclamp #info frido was away but now catchign up and pushing 14:17 fridolin I'm cool 14:17 fridolin cait ? 14:17 wahanui cait is probably the best friend you could ever have. 14:17 kidclamp cait said shemight catch end of metting 14:17 kidclamp so we can move on i thnk 14:17 kidclamp #topic Updates from the QA team 14:18 kidclamp I will just add I was out end of July and most of August getting back into routine now 14:18 tcohen kidclamp: we missed you :-D 14:19 kidclamp thanks 14:19 oleonard kidclamp vacations like a European 14:19 tcohen marcel said he would be out for three weeks 14:19 tcohen so, next two 14:20 kidclamp anything Joubu tcohen khall atheia ashimema? 14:20 tcohen Joubu: when do you want to do the QA sprint? 14:20 Joubu for the next topic, yes 14:20 ashimema huh.. wa 14:21 ashimema oops 14:21 kidclamp bag jajm 14:21 Joubu tcohen: I am going to do the same as last one, send a poll and see your availabilities 14:21 tcohen alright 14:21 kidclamp #info Joubu will send a poll for next QA sprint 14:21 tcohen maybe next friday :-P 14:21 kidclamp #info remember to set yourself as qa contact when looking at a bug 14:21 kidclamp ^is for me :-) 14:22 kidclamp #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 14:22 Joubu Commit messages - I sent a reminder about commit messages. You should all read it 14:23 Joubu commit messages + bug titles: they cannot be the same, it's not possible 14:23 Joubu one is the problem, one is the fix 14:23 Joubu unless it's a new ft 14:23 Joubu anyway, read it. 14:23 Joubu Then I'd like to see if we could agree on a way to standardize the commit messages 14:23 Joubu "Bug 12345: my commit message" 14:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Can't Clear Reading History for Anonymous patron 14:23 kidclamp #link http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2017-August/043991.html Commit messages and bug titles guidelines 14:24 fridolin +1 14:24 kidclamp +1 14:24 tcohen +1 14:24 oleonard +1 14:24 Joubu and "Bug 12345: (qa-follow-up) a QA note about what my fix does" 14:24 fridolin I personnaluy copi from Bugzilla whitch is : "Bug xxx - toto" 14:24 Joubu and "Bug 12345: (follow-up) same commit msg as before" # i.e. can be squashed 14:24 mveron https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commit_messages 14:24 Joubu the git log is aweful, and commit messages are often wrong 14:24 tcohen yeah, can we change BZ display? 14:24 Joubu you can blame me for that too ;) 14:25 fridolin everybody prefers ':' than '-'? 14:25 Joubu then you can write a git hook to replace it if you like 14:25 * oleonard doesn't care as long as we are consistent. 14:26 oleonard But I do like being able to copy from the Bugzilla heading 14:26 kidclamp so should this go into coding guidelines? so we have a standardized list of how to? 14:26 fridolin same has owen 14:26 * Joubu prefers ": ", there is one more char to describe the patch 14:27 Joubu you are not suppose to copy bugzilla headings :) 14:27 fridolin indeed ;) 14:27 Joubu pick the numbers from the url, and you are done 14:28 oleonard Even though pianohacker doesn't appear to be awake could we talk about the ES6 usage thread from the mailing list? 14:28 oleonard http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2017-August/043910.html 14:29 kidclamp are we done on commit messages? 14:29 Joubu ok, so how do we process? 14:29 Joubu I send an email to koha-devel, either you do not agree and suggest a counter proposition, or it's validated and added to the guidelines? 14:29 Joubu I update the commit messages before push (do not resend to bz) for a month, then ask authors to follow guidelines (fqa) 14:30 Joubu ok, so how do we process? 14:30 Joubu I send an email to koha-devel, either you do not agree and suggest a counter proposition, or it's validated and added to the guidelines? 14:30 Joubu I update the commit messages before push (do not resend to bz) for a month, then ask authors to follow guidelines (fqa) 14:30 kidclamp joubu is in a loop 14:30 Joubu sorry, has been disconnected 14:30 Joubu did not know it was sent 14:31 tcohen hehe 14:31 kidclamp I think write up as guideline and then a vote to accept next meeting 14:31 mveron +1 14:32 Joubu k 14:32 Joubu something else? ES6? 14:32 kidclamp #info Joubu will draft a coding guideline for commit messages to be voted on next meeting 14:32 kidclamp #action Joubu will draft a coding guideline for commit messages to be voted on next meeting 14:32 kidclamp oleonard? 14:32 wahanui oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer 14:33 oleonard #link http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2017-August/043910.html 14:34 oleonard I think the discussion is boiling down to "When and how do we compile assets" 14:35 oleonard My thought is: Could we incorporate this build process into the release process, rather than the installation process? 14:36 tcohen it is the same discussion we could have about our less approach 14:36 oleonard Solving this issue will lay the groundwork for a lot of positive improvements to our front-end asset handling 14:36 oleonard (which is basically what tcohen just said) 14:36 tcohen I think we should have it as a release management process for now 14:36 tcohen to ease adoption 14:37 Joubu yes, just pick one and try 14:37 Joubu if it does not work, we test the other option 14:37 tcohen pick the one that hurts the less on the distribution/deployment side for the general public 14:37 oleonard Adding it to the release management process would slightly complicate the process for developers, but that's our job and we can handle it. 14:38 tcohen +1 14:38 Joubu so we just need a wiki page 14:39 kidclamp #action pianohacker should write a wiki page for compiling assets in the release process 14:39 kidclamp that's what happens when you sleep in 14:39 tcohen hehe 14:40 oleonard No objections to that plan? 14:40 * kidclamp looks for dissenting views, sees none 14:40 Joubu silence means everybody agrees 14:40 ashimema +1 14:40 oleonard Thanks everyone :) 14:41 kidclamp #info release process is suggested as proper time to compile assets, put onus on developers 14:41 kidclamp @later tell pianohacker check the irc meeting minutes 14:41 huginn kidclamp: The operation succeeded. 14:41 kidclamp #topic Review of coding guidelines 14:41 kidclamp Anything here? 14:42 tcohen we should implement some workflow for UI development on kohadevbox, including watcher and some live-reload lib 14:42 tcohen sorry, OT 14:42 oleonard tcohen++ 14:42 ashimema +1 14:43 tcohen oleonard: if you have any suggestions, file an issue on digibib/kohadevbox 14:43 kidclamp no worries tcohen 14:43 tcohen ok? 14:44 kidclamp anyone have anything else before we move to next meeting 14:45 Joubu QAers, please QA 14:45 kidclamp #info QAers, please QA all the things 14:45 kidclamp #topic Set time of next meeting 14:46 * oleonard thinks this pot of coffee could have used some QA 14:46 kidclamp prove t/bean_dependent/Brew.t 14:46 tcohen kidclamp: lol 14:47 kidclamp September 27th, 21 UTC? 14:47 tcohen +1 14:48 oleonard +1 14:48 mveron +1 14:49 kidclamp #info Next meeting: September 27th, 21 UTC 14:49 kidclamp last chance! 14:49 kidclamp #endmeeting 14:49 huginn Meeting ended Wed Sep 13 14:49:49 2017 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 14:49 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_13_september_2017.2017-09-13-14.03.html 14:49 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_13_september_2017.2017-09-13-14.03.txt 14:49 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_13_september_2017.2017-09-13-14.03.log.html 14:49 kidclamp thanks all 14:49 kidclamp Joubu++ 14:50 kidclamp tcohen++ 14:50 Joubu thanks kidclamp 14:50 kidclamp mveron++ 14:50 kidclamp fridolin++ 14:50 kidclamp oleonard++ 14:50 oleonard kidclamp++ 14:50 kidclamp I think I caught everyone 14:50 kidclamp koha++ 14:50 mveron Thanks, kidclamp :-) 14:50 fridolin thanks a lot kidclamp 14:51 fridolin see u tomorow everybody 14:51 tcohen kidclamp++ 14:51 * mveron has to catch the tram 14:51 mveron Good daytime everybody 14:54 * oleonard wonders how many miles he would have to go to catch a tram, any tram 15:01 reiveune bye 15:09 * LeeJ waves 15:09 * LeeJ reviews meeting 15:23 oleonard @later tell pianohacker Now getting an error when I 'yarn build': 'Error: Cannot find module 'vinyl-source-stream' 15:23 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded. 15:29 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "[15:22:27] t/db_dependent/Item" (23 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/646 15:53 pastebot Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "1 #!/usr/bin/perl 2 3 use Mode" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/647 15:53 Joubu tcohen: ^ 15:54 Joubu in devbox: 37, 0, 37 # correct 15:54 Joubu in docker: same 15:54 * tcohen loves determinism 16:01 Joubu tcohen: it does not rollback when it is not explicit (?!) 16:02 tcohen It is awesome when fixing things is so straightforward LOL 16:03 Joubu not really actually, I do not understand what is happening 16:19 jenkins Project Koha_Master build #260: STILL UNSTABLE in 3 hr 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/260/ 16:27 LeeJ oleonard: around? 16:27 oleonard yes 16:28 LeeJ oleonard: I've had this bug for a while just didn't get around to it..what are your thoughts on this? https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17153 16:28 huginn 04Bug 17153: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ldjamison, Failed QA , Logging in during a search navigates to account page instead of back to search results 16:28 LeeJ oleonard: when you get a chance that is..I figured since you seem to be the go-to person for a lot of UX 16:29 oleonard I'm not sure what you're asking 16:30 oleonard It's failed QA... Waiting for khall to revise, I guess? 16:31 LeeJ oleonard: well was wondering what your thoughts on redirection are...usually sites would redirect a user to the last page they were on..which is not how the OPAC handles it right now 16:31 khall I'll try to look it it, but if anyone else wants to, by all means please do ; ) 16:31 LeeJ khall: I had been looking it over again fresh after all these months, but I'm not sure what the "correct" approach would be :) 16:32 khall sounds philosophical ; ) 16:32 LeeJ Comment 13 really explains the intended functionality well 16:33 LeeJ I'm hoping to get this working in time so that it can be paired with 2093 16:35 oleonard I don't even know why it's marked FQA. Perhaps only because khall didn't change the status? Should LeeJ's last attachment not have been obsoleted? 16:35 khall that seems likely 16:35 * LeeJ shrugs 16:36 LeeJ gonna give it a go now to see how it works out 17:13 LeeJ tcohen: have you tried doing a reset_all recently for any reason? now I can't run it..it's returning unable to execute koha-plack... 17:14 tcohen LeeJ: will destroy my box and retry 17:14 tcohen nothing changed on that place I think 17:15 tcohen doing KOHA_ELASTICSEARCH=1 SKIP_WEBINSTALLER=1 CREATE_ADMIN_USER=1 vagrant up 17:15 tcohen will tell you once its done 17:17 LeeJ tcohen: odd..I'm wondering if it's a SMB side effect then...because I can spin up the box perfectly fine. But after I spin up a box and tried to do an OPAC search I get no results..so I usually reset_all which then populates the sample data.. 17:19 tcohen LeeJ: so Koha works for you 17:19 tcohen have you enabled elasticsearch by chance? 17:30 tcohen LeeJ: works for me 17:45 tcohen git down? 17:55 LeeJ tcohen: thanks for checking! no clue what's wrong.. 17:55 tcohen teh koha-plack error is weird 17:55 tcohen no search results means plack is actually running 17:55 tcohen have you used sudo? 17:55 tcohen ah, it was reset_all, nm 18:01 LeeJ I even tried sudo reset_all just to be a completionist O:-) 18:18 Joubu @later tell tcohen found... 18:18 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 18:20 Joubu @later tell tcohen KOHA_NO_TABLE_LOCKS is not set, because $ENV{_} ne 'prove', but 'koha-shell' 18:20 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 18:44 Joubu let's send all the vulnerabilities to the public list! 19:36 LeeJ Joubu: have any idea what would cause do_all_you_can_do.pl (in kohadevbox running reset_all) to return saying unable to execute koha-plack or koha-rebuild-zebra no such file or directory? 19:39 Joubu LeeJ: how do you run it? 19:39 cait maybe we should send a reminder to the list about how to report security problems 19:40 LeeJ Joubu: from vagrant I typed reset_all and this is what I got... 19:41 pastebot "LeeJ" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "reset_all log" (181 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/648 19:43 Joubu cait: hum... "If you want to report a problem, use our bug tracker"? :) 19:44 Joubu LeeJ: ls -l /usr/sbin/koha-plack ? 19:45 Joubu ls /home/vagrant/kohaclone/debian/scripts/koha-plack 19:48 pastebot "LeeJ" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "ls debian scripts" (35 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/649 19:49 LeeJ it's so confusing..the only thing I could think of is my sync_repo configuration causing it but it shouldn't matter..I'm able to write to it.. 19:49 LeeJ I guess I'm going to play around with my sync config 19:51 Joubu LeeJ: and /usr/sbin? 19:51 Joubu ls -l /usr/sbin/koha-* 19:52 pastebot "LeeJ" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "/usr/sbin/koha-* contents" (33 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/650 19:56 Joubu LeeJ: PERL5LIB=/home/vagrant/kohaclone:/home/vagrant/qa-test-tools perl /home/vagrant/misc4dev/reset_plack.pl 19:56 cait Joubu: and absolutely not on the main mailing list? 19:57 LeeJ Joubu: hmm...mine only shows /home/vagrant/kohaclone:/home/vagrant/qa-test-tools 20:00 Joubu no, just execute `perl /home/vagrant/misc4dev/reset_plack.pl` 20:01 LeeJ ahh..I'll give it a go then! 20:12 LeeJ Joubu: nope..I get no such file or directory on reset_plack.pl 20:14 Joubu LeeJ: hard to help you, but it should be trivial, look at ~/misc4dev/reset_plack.pl 20:15 Joubu it calls `sudo koha-plack --restart $kohadev`; 20:15 Joubu so try `sudo koha-plack --restart kohadev` as the vagrant user should be exactly the same 20:15 LeeJ Joubu: that's what I'm doing now..thanks for the input! I'm thinking it has something to do with the repo sync 20:16 JesseM Does "sudo koha-plack --restart kohadev" need to be done from koha-shell 20:17 bag JesseM: nope 20:17 khall LeeJ: I can't imagine that would be related to the repo sync 20:17 khall those commands are installed from the package 20:17 LeeJ huh...JesseM it wouldn't matter anyway because now it appears koha-shell is broken too :) 20:17 khall and then we gitify that, but still use the package versions of the commands iirc 20:18 khall LeeJ: you might want to just 'vagrant destroy jesse' and then vagrant up again. start fresh 20:18 khall since you have an external repo, nothing of value should be lost if you haven't customized the envronment any 20:19 LeeJ khall: that's what I tried..the only thing non-standard from the git repo is changing type: "virtualbox" to type: "smb" 20:19 khall hmmm, that is most curious 20:19 LeeJ right?! 20:20 LeeJ it makes zero sense why the sync would affect anything 20:20 khall LeeJ: you *could* test that theory by destroying the devbox, disabling repo_sync, and re-upping it 20:20 khall just to see if it works without the repo sync 20:20 LeeJ khall: that's actually what I'm doing right now... 20:21 khall heh 20:22 * LeeJ sometimes wishes his campus would just move to *nix already 20:22 bag I wish khall would just allow me to use a harry potter wand ;) 20:23 khall lol 20:23 LeeJ bag: I have a feeling you own one of the bluetooth wand TV remotes 20:24 * bag hasn’t heard of it - has to google 20:25 LeeJ bag: https://www.amazon.com/Kymera-Magic-Wand-Remote-Control/dp/B002SJKWZ4 20:25 LeeJ it was on Dragon's Den..the UK's version of Shark Tank 20:25 bag ha! 20:26 JesseM Ha. Thats awesome 20:26 bag I’d prefer to just yell at the TV - sudo put on the mets game… 20:34 bag I guess me yelling at a tv - scared everyone away :P 20:35 * LeeJ wants to create a wand that with a flick of the wrist up and spin up a devbox and with a flick of the wrist down can destroy it 20:51 LeeJ ok..non-synced devbox up and running..now to try reset 20:53 LeeJ Joubu: non-synced devbox worked perfectly. 21:31 wizzyrea does anybody know what version that fellow on the list is using? 21:43 wizzyrea nvm I see. 21:57 wizzyrea 344033c32490df3e396ed530dcbf250086483371 just sayin 21:58 wizzyrea 17.05 22:08 LeeJ have a good night #koha 22:18 CLiu Hello, everyone 22:22 Infra_3600 hi 22:22 wahanui hello, Infra_3600 22:35 CLiu Is there any way to check history of chatting on this channel? 22:35 wizzyrea irc log? 22:35 CLiu yep 22:35 wizzyrea irc log is https://irc.koha-community.org 22:37 CLiu it ask me to login to piwik? 22:38 wizzyrea sorry, leave off the s on https. 22:38 wizzyrea forget irc log 22:38 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot irc log 22:38 wizzyrea irc log is http://irc.koha-community.org 22:38 wizzyrea irc log? 22:38 wahanui irc log is http://irc.koha-community.org 22:45 CLiu I see it! Thank you! 22:59 oleonard @seen pianohacker 22:59 huginn oleonard: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 1 day, 4 hours, 19 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <pianohacker> Katie_CPL: while somebody might jump in and prove me wrong, that may be a better mailing list question; don't know if we have anyone knowledgable about the labels system online right now 23:34 jcamins Does anyone have anything they particularly enjoyed doing around Marseille when they visited during the hackfest? 23:34 jcamins (we're going to be there for a day sometime not next week but the week after) 23:43 oleonard jcamins: Eating and drinking with Koha people. 23:44 oleonard I recommend this: http://www.marseille-tourisme.com/en/discover-marseille/sea-and-nature/the-calanques/ 23:44 oleonard You don't have to travel far out of the city to find a good place to hike. 23:44 oleonard ...but perhaps transportation would be an issue. 23:44 * oleonard had paul_p to do the driving 23:47 jcamins oleonard: yeah, I was thinking that e-mailing Koha people in Marseille might be a good idea. :) 23:49 oleonard gaetan arranged some really nice restaurant outings the last time I was there. I can see if I can find some names if you're interested. 23:50 oleonard gaetan++