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03:12 Amit        hi all
05:43 amit_       heya cait
05:44 Amit_Gupta  @seen cait
05:44 huginn      Amit_Gupta: cait was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 58 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <cait> @later tell Joubu - it look slike the link to the meeting time poll is broken https://framadate.org/3dAEB8zqQLzzTptD
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06:42 magnuse     dødsing is the sport of vikings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T0OLR4MzrM
07:11 alex_a      bonjour
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07:53 alex_a_     Merci magnuse :)
08:55 oha         o/
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09:15 eythian     hi
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11:57 rsantellan  good morning #koha
12:05 * magnuse   waves
12:07 marcelr     hi #koha
12:07 rsantellan  does anybody knows where I can look up for information on the items.restricted field. I don't understand the use of it on the circulation
12:15 marcelr     rsantellan: unfortunately the code sometimes is your best friend ;)
12:15 marcelr     git grep
12:16 rsantellan  marcelr: I'm doing that, also found this https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10591 so I'm trying to see if that helps in my case
12:16 huginn      04Bug 10591: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Why do we allow holds on restricted items (952$5=Use restrictions)? Place a hold for reference?
12:17 marcelr     it looks familiar to me :)
12:17 marcelr     reported in 2013..
12:19 cait        the last comment is interesting i think
12:19 cait        i will mark it for the manual
12:23 rsantellan  cait: the last comment is not working on 16.05, the item is still marked as restricted
12:24 rsantellan  just try to do it!
12:31 rsantellan  mm actually on the code it sound good, but for some reason it always load 1 for me when retrieving the item
12:33 cait        i think the last comment is not about displaa
12:33 cait        just about behaivour
12:34 cait        what do you mean with load 1?
12:40 rsantellan  I edit an item and set 952$5 to 0. It saves okay, on the db it shows 0 on the restricted column. I edit again the item and it is on 1. Also is not shown on the item information table
12:42 cait        interesting
12:42 wahanui     interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
12:42 cait        how is your $5 set up?
12:42 cait        do you have an empty value in the pull down?
12:42 cait        is a default set in the framework?
12:44 rsantellan  the field is mandatory, no default value and use authorized values [-1, 0, 1]
12:45 cait        hm i would remove mandatory
12:46 cait        and try again, something is odd with the empty values and mandatory
12:46 cait        same for itemtypes - it always picks the first instead of leaving it empty and letting you choose one (filed a bug for that)
12:47 rsantellan  I remove the mandatory and now it doesn't show any value, the default empty and on the db is -1
12:51 cait        remove the default empty
12:51 cait        from the authorised values
12:51 cait        and you are good
12:56 rsantellan  where is the default empty?
13:02 cait        in authorised values
13:02 cait        RESTRICTED
13:02 wahanui     RESTRICTED is more than that, and needs to be retained
13:07 rsantellan  I only have this: http://imgur.com/a/nKHTl no remove the empty
13:10 cait        hm
13:10 cait        we usually delete the 0
13:10 cait        because the empty already means without restrictions
13:11 cait        but if you want to use the signal colors that won't quite work
13:12 rsantellan  the colors where just for trying! I like the screenshot :)
13:12 rsantellan  as you can see is not shown on the table above the $5 if I remove the items.restriction and add it to more_subfield_xml of the items it is shown.
13:13 rsantellan  but is missing the purpose..
13:18 cait        sorry, not understanding
13:20 rsantellan  I can't see the 952$5 if I'm not editing the item. And editing it brings the wrong value. The items.restriction should not be seen on the items table of cataloguing/additem.pl
13:21 cait        maybe you coudl make a screenshot of the detail page and how it look swhen editing?
13:22 rsantellan  is the second image on the link I send above
13:23 rsantellan  sorry
13:23 rsantellan  I attach the image to the link above
13:25 cait        hm and the detail page shows what?
13:26 rsantellan  http://imgur.com/a/fPVUp
13:27 rsantellan  I added to the last link
13:31 cait        i meant the details tab - not items :)
13:31 cait        it's not visible on items
13:31 cait        oh
13:31 cait        small on top
13:31 cait        sorry!
13:32 cait        hm that's on top of the edit item form - to small to read
13:33 rsantellan  yes that's on top
13:33 rsantellan  I added the normal view
13:33 rsantellan  I try to make it bigger the image
13:57 oha         github down?
14:06 rsantellan  cait: I found out the problem... the default marc_subfield_structure is different... So I override for testing and now is working. I found out that the items table calls GetMarcSubfieldStructure without framework. That was my problem!! Thanks for all the help
14:10 rsantellan  oha: https://status.github.com/messages/2017-08-21
14:12 eythian     "I felt a great disturbance in the internet, as if millions of node.js developers suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced."
14:19 clario      Hello All, I'm going to be upgrading a Koha installation from version 3.16 to one of the latest versions. I've already tested this out on a VM and the process went fine. However the system I'm going to upgrade is a production one and I'm not sure which Koha version I should upgrade to. Is the most recent release (v17) stable or I should use the previous version? I've seen some companies online that upgrade to the 2nd most recent release in c
14:44 cait        rsantellan: interesting!
14:44 wahanui     i think interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
14:46 rsantellan  now I have to fix the default marc framework :)
14:49 marcelr     cait: the sip fix and the to_marc fix probably do not reach the stable releases yet ?
14:49 marcelr     fridolin is not there for 17.05 ?
14:50 cait        i am still waitin gfor fridolin
14:50 cait        he said he weill be tomorrow
14:50 cait        whatever he pushes, i will pick of course
14:50 marcelr     ok
14:51 cait        but it hink having both versions move apart is probably not what we want
14:51 marcelr     no better keep in line
14:51 cait        i was thinking about cherry-picking about master... but decided against
16:09 GiuseppeP   Hello, someone was able to use htpasswd with koha ?
16:29 eythian     http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/national-library-of-belarus-light-show
16:29 eythian     GiuseppeP: when I looked at it about 4 or 5 years ago, it just worked
16:30 GiuseppeP   I'm trying, I cna login but all action I do return me Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 53.
16:31 GiuseppeP   line 53 is the Context->userenve()->{'branch'}
17:23 GiuseppeP   ok, found out a way to bypass this error
17:23 GiuseppeP   I just removed all the part of code regarding "Basic Authentication" method
17:24 GiuseppeP   now htaccess do the basic authentication and koha require a second authentication, but in that way the login works
17:33 eythian     GiuseppeP: ideally, the htaccess should provide the login to Koha. That's how it's supposed to work. You might be lucky and able to debug it easily.
17:45 GiuseppeP   I spent 2 hours to debug it, but I can't understand how it is suppose to work. And that is not my target, my target was just close the staff area to all expect local IPs and trust users
18:01 cait        @seen Joubu
18:01 huginn      cait: Joubu was last seen in #koha 6 days, 2 hours, 54 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <Joubu> yes
18:32 eythian     GiuseppeP: then I would use htaccess to just require a simple login, and/or IP restriction depending on your needs
18:32 eythian     (like I guess you're doing)
18:40 pianohacker eclipse!
18:40 pianohacker hi :)
19:39 cait        pianohacker: did it happen yet?
19:39 pianohacker cait: yup! a couple hours ago
19:39 cait        ah cool, how was it?
19:41 pianohacker really cool :) I don't have the equipment to take good pictures, and we're only at 90% totality where I am, but it still got darker and cooler, and the sun was mostly covered up
19:41 pianohacker we had special glasses and a little pinhole projector
19:41 cait        burn the pictures into your memory - is what a friend told me the other day :)
19:41 cait        i had tried to photograph a beautiful pink sunset :)
19:42 pianohacker yeah... cameras are always bad at dealing with the sun
20:08 eythian     I was at NIWA doing something with Koha for the last one I saw
20:09 eythian     Being NIWA, everyone was in the car park with pinhole viewers and other gear
20:22 rangi       :-)
20:22 rangi       that was a few years ago now eh
20:23 eythian     Yeah
20:24 eythian     201[12] I think
20:26 eythian     https://lwn.net/Articles/729460/ looks like Open Office (not LibreOffice) is dying
20:28 rangi       ahh yeah, it does
21:16 pianohacker bbl
22:53 edveal      good evening #koha
22:54 pianohacker hi edveal
22:54 edveal      Hi pianohacker
22:54 edveal      Do you know anything about the kohadevbox and vagrant set up?
22:55 pianohacker edveal: no :/ I'm still on a very old school git setup
22:55 edveal      Well that doesn’t help.
22:55 edveal      LOL
22:56 edveal      I upgraded and am getting wild errors on both staff and opac. But they are the same errors.
22:57 pianohacker well, I DO know a bit about dealing with crazy Koha errors
22:57 pianohacker edveal: paste that puppy
22:57 edveal      http://paste.koha-community.org/598
22:59 pianohacker edveal: you're missing a pretty early dependency; I don't know the lingo for vagrant, but you need to reinstall koha-perldeps. Check the documentation for something about a missing dependency
22:59 edveal      OK. that helps a lot.
22:59 edveal      Thanks
23:00 edveal      Very strange because it was working fine until I upgraded. LOL
23:00 edveal      I must have changed something else in the vagrant set up.
23:16 pianohacker edveal: what did upgrading entail?
23:17 pianohacker (^ a mix of socratic debugging and me legitimately having no idea how any of this fits together)
23:17 bag         hello
23:17 pianohacker bag!
23:17 pianohacker eclipse++ ?
23:17 * bag       saw the total eclipse today - it was unbelievable
23:18 bag         one of the greatest things I have ever seen in my life
23:18 pianohacker sweet :) I enjoyed the partial in colorado a lot, but I'm definitely headed to totality in 2024
23:18 bag         do!  it’s amazing
23:19 bag         pianohacker: Sonja and I had a bottle of Dom with us ;)  (I brought it back from France)
23:19 bag         it actually is really amazing too ;)
23:19 pianohacker heheheh
23:37 pianohacker ttfn