Time Nick Message 00:56 pianohacker bye all 01:16 wizzyrea hi 01:34 mtj i wonder if the Koha BZ could use this... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=bugzilla-spam 01:34 huginn 04Bug bugzilla: could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId 01:35 mtj ...the eclipse BZ seems to have had some success with it 01:36 mtj https://github.com/mozilla-bteam/bmo/blob/master/extensions/AntiSpam/Extension.pm 01:37 mtj looks like it uses some regexs to block spammy bugs 01:37 mtj https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=502814 01:37 huginn 04Bug 502814: could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId 03:14 AmitGupta hi all 03:14 AmitGupta @seen rangi 03:14 huginn AmitGupta: rangi was last seen in #koha 2 days, 7 hours, and 47 seconds ago: <rangi> morning 03:15 AmitGupta @seen cait 03:15 huginn AmitGupta: cait was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 28 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <cait> hi pianohacker :) 05:20 AmitGupta @seen AmitGupta 05:20 huginn AmitGupta: AmitGupta was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 5 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <AmitGupta> @seen cait 06:21 reiveune hello 06:58 alex_a bonjour 07:38 gaetan_B hello 07:38 wahanui bidet, gaetan_B 08:16 * magnuse waves 08:48 Tylathos hey #koha 09:19 magnuse hiya Tylathos 09:47 eythian wahanui: bill's boulder is <reply>http://tragedyseries.tumblr.com/post/78154761900?fref=gc 09:47 wahanui OK, eythian. 10:12 cait spammers ew .( 10:13 cait on bugzilla, they are attaching weird code too, setting it all to private/hidden 10:21 cait morning khall :) 10:21 khall mornin! 10:27 magnuse hiya khall 10:27 khall mornin magnuse! 11:17 magnuse after upgrading to 17.05.02 i have a library reporting that <<reserves.expirationdate>> is no longer showing on printed HOLD_SLIPs. anyone else seen that? 11:33 cait magnuse: look for bugs related to that 11:33 cait I think i was involved in a longer discussion about this 11:34 cait afaik we are reusing the date as pikcup-date :( 11:35 magnuse searching for expirationdate did not yield anything relevant, i think 11:35 cait i am looking one sec 11:37 cait bug 12204 is one 11:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12204 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , in RESERVESLIP, any 'reserve' field is not being expanded correctly. 11:37 cait but that's not the one i was looking for 11:39 magnuse looks to me like expirationdate is not included in the list of reserves.* fields returned by sub GetReserveInfo, for some reason: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=C4/Reserves.pm;h=50982306a158727b5dd8d773a43ab2d90ed76b9c;hb=HEAD#l1243 11:39 cait yes, but kyle noted that woudl b a regression to add it 11:39 cait because we use it for something else 11:39 cait see kyle's comment on the bug 11:40 cait and bug 14937 11:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14937 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, CLOSED FIXED, Expiration date for holds based onReservesMaxPickUpDelay should not require ExpireReservesMaxPickUpDelay 11:41 cait hm can't find the third bug I was thinking of 11:42 cait bug 12063 11:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12063 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, RESOLVED FIXED, Change date calculation for reserve expiration to skip all holidays 11:43 cait it's not in the list because supposed to be calculated and inserted in another spot 11:43 magnuse uh huh? 11:43 cait expirationdate is the date the user gives the item is no longer needed 11:43 magnuse but my library says it used to work before the upgrade? 11:44 cait but we are... overloading it 11:44 cait yeah it might be broken, but you have to look at the code from that last bug 11:44 cait we don't just get it out of db 11:44 cait it is used for the pick-up date 11:44 cait well the date a waiting hold expires 11:45 magnuse in the db i see expirationdate = waitingdate + 1 week 11:46 cait not a good topic for me I guess :) I wanted a separate field 11:47 cait but it might be broken as yous aid, the latest changes I know are the third bug 11:48 cait https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=63095 removed some code from Letters.pm 11:49 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blobdiff;f=C4/Letters.pm;h=419f272f6d2c22675d761739c77617cdcf66de54;hp=de7e04ad71e56c12e83078799b276b42c264b604;hb=26634151dbce0bf39ff6c9eda5b58bb993996a2d;hpb=6add80083b1f8596496d13569347818ed8ce71a9 11:50 magnuse wow, looks like a real can of worms... 11:52 cait maybe with those changes the first bug would be valid again? 11:52 cait as they moved the calculation to Reserves.pm and it changes in the db 11:53 cait then it's just a matter of getting it in the letter from there 12:13 magnuse cait: but is it correct that reserves.expirationdate is still used for two things: the last date a patron is interested in the hold and the last day the document should be left standing on the "holds to pick up" shelf? 12:13 cait that's what I thought, but maybe test it 12:14 cait in my theory the date would be switched with the waiting status set - but only if it's after that date 12:15 magnuse it looks very much like it is the case when i look at the dates in the db 12:20 magnuse stilldon't understand what changed with the upgrade to 17.05.02... 12:22 rsantellan good morning #koha 12:30 jenkins Project Koha_Master build #5: STILL FAILING in 1 min 49 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/5/ 13:11 * cait waves 13:11 edveal good day #koha 13:13 tcohen morning 13:14 tcohen @seen TGoat 13:14 huginn tcohen: TGoat was last seen in #koha 14 hours, 42 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <TGoat> @later tell tcohen to please ping TGoat about building a kohadevbox 13:16 edveal tcohen it is a bit early for TGoat. Give him an hour or two. 13:19 oleonard tcohen: Do you know what will happen if you set up SYNC_REPO on an already-provisioned box? 13:19 oleonard tcohen: Or must you destroy and start over? 13:19 tcohen oleonard: if you vagrant reload 13:19 tcohen it will mount the SYNC_REPO dir 13:19 tcohen if you just provision 13:19 tcohen nothing 13:20 oleonard Okay, good to know. CrispyBran was afraid to run vagrant destroy because he thought he'd never get it back again. 13:20 tcohen tell him to try having the kohadevbox code up to date 13:21 * oleonard wants to be kohadevbox-on-Windows evangelist whenever he can 13:25 eythian oleonard: that sounds sisyphean. 13:26 oleonard Frustration seems to be the main impediment to getting people up and running, rather than a Windows-specific barrier. 13:26 oleonard ALTHOUGH 13:26 wahanui ALTHOUGH is mine 2.3.2 or 2.3.3 13:26 oleonard Upgrading vagrant and VirtualBox cost me two days of work, so... 13:26 eythian I feel that maybe frustration is a windows feature. 13:27 oleonard :) 13:27 eythian "One must remember that Microsoft is not a software company. Microsoft is an abuse company, and software is their means of delivering that abuse." 13:29 cait i have to say kohadevbox can be frustrating on linux too 13:29 cait lost a day and a half to version problems and trying to get newer versions to install correctly... and gr. 13:29 cait and one of my boxes still explodes half the time 13:29 cait thankfullly not the rmaint one 13:30 * oleonard has only had a box explode once, and there's no guarantee it wasn't user error 13:32 tcohen what you mean *explode*? 13:33 tcohen kohadevbox is just a debian 8 VM with stuff installed on it 13:33 oleonard "explode" is not accurate. 13:33 oleonard I'm being dramatic. 13:34 tcohen you can break what's in it 13:34 tcohen that's the beauty of it, you can recreate with deterministic steps 13:34 tcohen environmental issues are: 13:34 oleonard What happened to me was that I started getting strange errors from Koha and thought why not start over and upgrade Vagrant and Virtualbox while I'm at it. 13:34 tcohen - Virtualbox malfunctioning 13:34 tcohen - Vagrant version + VBox not working correctly 13:35 tcohen Most of the user-reported issues are networking issues 13:36 tcohen ('couldn't download X from CPAN', 'apt failed because of DNS issues', etc) 13:40 jenkins Project Koha_Master build #6: STILL FAILING in 1 min 26 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/6/ 13:48 jenkins Project Koha_Master build #7: STILL FAILING in 10 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/7/ 14:00 tcohen cait: I'm interested on helping with any frustrating problem with kohadevbox 14:00 tcohen so, ping me when you have issues 14:01 oleonard tcohen++ 15:00 reiveune bye 15:20 cait bit worried about bug 19101 and bug 18927 - someone more confident with the bash/package commands around to take a look? 15:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19101 critical, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Zebra rebuild error 15:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18927 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v koha 16:10 cait those spammers are very annoying 17:05 eythian rangi: http://languagehat.com/morepork/ the only time I've said this: the comments are worth reading 19:56 pianohacker hi! 19:57 pianohacker eythian: another languagehat article with excellent comments: http://languagehat.com/solder/ 20:01 eythian pianohacker: heh yeah. No one in their right mind says "sodder" 20:02 pianohacker eythian: I once had to stop a really interesting youtube video about soldering techniques halfway through because he pronounced it SOL-der... it's a damn weird word 20:02 pianohacker how do you say it? 20:03 eythian Like it's spelt 20:04 eythian Rhymes with shoulder 20:05 pianohacker huuuuuuh. Is that how it's generally pronounced in NZ/Aus? 20:06 eythian Yep. 20:07 pianohacker crazy 20:08 eythian No, correct ;) 20:08 eythian As I said, like it's spelt. 20:12 * eythian adds the correct pronounciation of solder to the NZ border entry requirements 20:38 pianohacker hehehe