Time  Nick       Message
05:46 marcelr    hi #koha
05:46 cait       hi marcelr
05:46 marcelr    :)
05:59 marcelr    @later tell Joubu "Please push the last QA follow-up on bug 18931"
05:59 huginn     marcelr: The operation succeeded.
06:28 cait       just missed the releases now
07:20 gaetan_B   hello
07:20 wahanui    hello, gaetan_B
07:58 * cait     waves
07:58 eythian    hi
07:58 cait       hi paul_p
08:23 endmar     Failed to start koha-index-daemon.service: Unit koha-index-daemon.service not found.
08:23 endmar     any body has  a hint on this?
08:24 cait       did you install from packages?
08:26 endmar     I don't know about it
08:26 endmar     I just installed koha 16.11 on ubuntu 16.0.4
08:27 cait       ok, how did you install it? using apt-get koha-common?
08:27 endmar     sure,using apt-get koha-common
08:29 cait       hm you shoudl not need to activate anything manually then
08:29 cait       it should just work
08:29 cait       where does the message appear?
08:30 endmar     while I was runing sudo service koha-index-daemon start
08:31 cait       hm
08:32 endmar     should it be koha-shell my_instnace
08:33 cait       not sure
08:33 cait       but you could try that
08:33 endmar     Okay
08:33 endmar     I coudn't recived email while I was adding new parton
08:33 endmar     I just installed postfix
08:34 endmar     I can send message via command line
08:34 cait       hm that should be not related
08:34 endmar     I konw
08:34 endmar     but to get hint
08:34 cait       you will only receive an email when autoemailopacuser is turned on and you entered cardnumber, userid and password before you saved the patron for the first time
08:34 endmar     I did both
08:35 cait       didit work from koha-shell?
08:37 cait       i think you shoudl run it differently, maybe try sudo koha-indexer --start
08:37 cait       oh
08:37 cait       and instance
08:37 wahanui    instance is called koha_test
08:37 cait       sudo koha-indexer --start instance
08:44 marcelr    @later tell Joubu "Trivial fix for a nasty failure on bug 17680"
08:45 huginn     marcelr: The operation succeeded.
08:45 cait       looking at the documentation here that seems the correct command for package installations http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=debian/scripts/koha-indexer;h=c7c28588400b5d9ac439f1b09175a67ccbc008f5;hb=eed7f263d0a3a2380d9ca35ce3ab26dbadd1da22
08:46 endmar     okay
08:47 endmar     Indexer already running for my_library
08:47 endmar     Oh, It is runing
08:48 cait       yep it should
08:48 cait       did you try adding a record and searching for it?
08:49 endmar     sure, I can add and searching items
08:49 endmar     it works
08:49 wahanui    But now the Universe has disappeared
08:51 cait       cool
09:29 marcelr    cait: still found something in relation to 18966 unfortunately
09:32 marcelr    ashimema: is colin around ?
09:33 cait       only the typo?
09:34 * ashimema pokes colin
09:37 marcelr    thx
09:37 marcelr    cait: bug 18996
09:37 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18996 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , SIP sets ok flag to true for refused checkin for data corruption
09:45 marcelr    @later tell Joubu "And your attention for bug 18996 is appreciated too :)"
09:45 huginn     marcelr: The operation succeeded.
09:49 marcelr    ashimema: the last patch on bug 17680 is for colin too
09:49 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17680 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , C4::Circulation - Replace GetItemIssue with Koha::Checkouts
10:09 cait       gah.
10:16 marcelr    gah sounds negative
10:26 * marcelr  hopes for some feedback on 18996, sip experts
10:27 marcelr    have to go
10:28 cait       gah is negative...
11:05 endmar     Cron <swebshet@swebshet> __KOHA_USER__ $KOHA_CRON_PATH/../migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null
11:06 endmar     why this is coming throgh our email?
13:14 tcohen     morning
13:18 vfernandes hi #koha
13:19 vfernandes it's possible to have different rules for the same category code, branch and itemtype? for example 2 items with the same type and different for loan status?
13:21 cait       no
13:21 cait       some systems have different loan types, Koha doesn't really at the moment
13:21 cait       the closest we have is on-site-checkouts
13:22 cait       but you can't have a real separate rule fo them
13:22 vfernandes ok thanks @cait
13:22 vfernandes one idea could be add a new column for the issuingrules with the loan status
13:25 cait       what would loan status be?
13:28 vfernandes not for loan...
13:28 wahanui    not for loan is unset
13:30 cait       bug 19000
13:30 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19000 could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
13:30 cait       ah ...
13:30 cait       does somene have a good one to file?
13:46 * LeeJ     waves to everyone
13:47 tcohen     vfernandes: could you elaborate on a possible use case for that?
13:49 cait       tcohen: we had someone asking for short term loan / 'endless' loan / on-site (different loan period etc) ...
13:50 cait       wonder if that's what you meant?
13:50 tcohen     so we are only missing indefinite loans
13:53 cait       not quite
13:53 cait       for onsite you can't define a separate rule
13:53 cait       like you'd want to define a diffeent loan period for example
13:53 pastebot   "vfernandes" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Use case" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/555
13:54 cait       it's hardcoded to 1 day or can be changed manually
13:54 cait       if it was a real loan type you could configure specific rules
13:54 cait       at least that's how i know it from other systems
13:54 tcohen     Yeah, I see
13:55 tcohen     yet another column to the circ rules :-D
13:55 cait       possibly yes
13:55 vfernandes tcohen: yes another column
13:56 vfernandes one more column to make the circ rules table even bigger :D
13:57 tcohen     khall_DND has been working on a revamp for the circ rules persistence backend
13:57 tcohen     maybe mention it to him and cool ideas might show up
13:58 vfernandes maybe I can fill a enhancement/feature for this
13:58 vfernandes in Bugzilla
13:58 eythian    wahanui: yak shaving
13:58 wahanui    eythian: i'm not following you...
13:59 eythian    wahanui: yak shaving is <reply>http://i.imgur.com/Nky9ydt.gif
13:59 wahanui    OK, eythian.
14:17 LeeJ       eythian++ # for that amazing GIF
14:18 eythian    it describes my day today. I needed to add another cluster name to an array in perl, and now I'm writing go code and dealing with firewall issues, all from that one easy initial task.
14:19 cait       fun
14:19 cait       vfernandes: definitely write up a bug report / enh request :)
14:20 eythian    (I also get the enjoyment of adding an environment type called "UnsafeProd" to a system, to complement "Prod" and "Dev".)
14:24 vfernandes bug 19001
14:25 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19001 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Different rules for the same itemtype in the same branch and for the same category code
14:30 huginn     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18991: [QA Follow-up] Use schema txn_begin and txn_rollback <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e5e5402f36c923775b341bd1900aa6468d42aa9a> / Bug 18991: Fix cleanup in t/db_dependent/Log.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f49f5a67d3512ea75d92cb551ebd79a9de7e53d7> / Bug 18987 - Added Koha::Account package pragma to Patron.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/
14:41 huginn     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18367 - (QA Followup) Only warn if doing a lookup and not having an item <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b73cae6eb4ce7e7ca675d6db84fe8ce0cd2f499>
15:56 mtompset   @seen Joubu
15:56 huginn     mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 23 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <Joubu> CrispyBran: could you test on master?
15:59 vfernandes Thanks for the help... have a nice weekend #koha
15:59 mtompset   @later tell Joubu bug 16892 now has a patch that does error checking on the settings of the two system preferences.
15:59 huginn     mtompset: The operation succeeded.
16:01 mtompset   Have a great day, #koha.
16:31 jenkins    Project Koha_Master_D8 build #233: SUCCESS in 2 hr 3 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/233/
16:31 jenkins    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 17680: [QA Follow-up] dt_from_string failing silently
16:31 jenkins    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19000: Fix typo in closing p tag for items
16:31 jenkins    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18987 - Added Koha::Account package pragma to Patron.pm
16:31 jenkins    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18991: Fix cleanup in t/db_dependent/Log.t
16:31 jenkins    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18991: [QA Follow-up] Use schema txn_begin and txn_rollback
16:31 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17680 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , C4::Circulation - Replace GetItemIssue with Koha::Checkouts
16:31 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19000 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , about page - Typo in closing p tag
16:31 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18987 critical, P1 - high, ---, alexbuckley, Pushed to Master , When browsing for a patron by last name the page processes indefinitely
16:31 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18991 trivial, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Pushed to Master , Fix cleanup in t/db_dependent/Log.t
18:31 jenkins    Project Koha_Master_D8 build #234: UNSTABLE in 2 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/234/
18:31 jenkins    Jonathan Druart: Bug 18367 - (QA Followup) Only warn if doing a lookup and not having an
18:31 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18367 minor, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Fix untranslatable string from Bug 18264
18:47 LeeJ       have a good weekend #koha
23:47 jenkins    Project Koha_Master_D8 build #235: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/235/