Time  Nick      Message
02:11 wizzyrea  hi
03:13 minnalyne Hello, I was able to successfully install Koha on a server. However, when I continue to follow the tutorials on the web, I do not have the default information. Namely, frameworks, Item Types, Authorized Values. Did I miss a step? I run the stable main option today. Thank your for your advice.
03:15 wizzyrea  hi, when you installed Koha did you install the sample data for those things?
03:15 wizzyrea  if you don't, you'll need to add them yourself, that stuff is all under "Administration"
03:15 wizzyrea  installing the default frameworks is slightly more involved.
03:16 wizzyrea  not the default frameworks, the sample frameworks
03:16 minnalyne Yes, I checked all boxes then Import
03:17 wizzyrea  hm.
03:17 wizzyrea  ah, that's a bug
03:17 wizzyrea  https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18741
03:17 huginn    04Bug 18741: critical, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Web installer does not load default data
03:18 wizzyrea  so it's not your fault
03:18 wizzyrea  but, it will be released in the next update
03:18 wizzyrea  which really, should be in the next few days
03:19 wizzyrea  i mean the fix will be released in the next few days
03:20 minnalyne Ok, I'll wait then.
03:20 minnalyne Is it a stable release? Or do I have to patch it on the web client?
03:20 wizzyrea  rangi what day do the minors usually come out?
03:20 wizzyrea  23rd?
03:20 wizzyrea  (ish)
03:21 wizzyrea  you'd do an apt-get upgrade koha-common
03:21 rangi     supposed to be every 22nd
03:21 wizzyrea  so yeah not long for the 17.05.01 release, in theory
03:22 rangi     but unless they rerun the webinstaller it wont catch it anyway eh?
03:22 wizzyrea  yep
03:22 minnalyne ok, cool.
03:23 wizzyrea  when you've got the update, you'll need/want to remove your instance, and start with a new instance, so you can get all the sample data installed.
03:23 wizzyrea  or create a new instance alongside the old one. how you handle that is up to you, depending on what you've got in your current instance.
03:24 minnalyne understood. thank you for clearing it up.
03:44 minnalyne do you think it's the same thing with 'null' values in Citation in Manage Staged Marc21 records?
03:58 wizzyrea  Hm, that one I'm not sure about, usually whatever is in the records comes through
03:58 wizzyrea  so possibly it's not in your records
05:14 cait      t
06:30 fridolin  hie there
06:46 drojf     hi #koha
06:48 marcelr   hi #koha
06:50 reiveune  hello
06:50 wahanui   privet, reiveune
06:56 alex_a    bonjour
06:56 wahanui   bidet, alex_a
09:00 eythian   http://www.parool.nl/amsterdam/in-de-stad-kan-het-aanvoelen-als-34-graden~a4501523/ <-- 😱
11:51 * cait    waves
12:01 * magnuse waves to cait alex_a and khall
12:01 alex_a    \o
12:01 caboose   hello cait and manguse!
12:02 cait      hi caboose and magnuse!
12:02 magnuse   hiya caboose and kellym and marcelr
12:02 marcelr   hi magnuse
12:02 wahanui   kamelåså
12:03 magnuse   \o/
12:03 * magnuse wishes there was more koha in denmark
12:04 cait      whereas UNIMARC tends to be used in Europe.
12:04 cait      we shoud fix that
12:11 khall     mornin!
12:12 cait      mornin khall!
12:14 caboose   howdy barton, khall!
12:15 barton    morning caboose!
12:20 * cait    wonders how to translate onboarding tool into German
12:45 Nemo_bis  caboose: Kran :P
12:46 caboose   :)
12:46 caboose   ha ha
13:15 tcohen    morning
13:15 cait      hi tcohen :)
13:15 tcohen    hi cait :-D
13:16 cait      did you get my email? :)
13:17 tcohen    I did =D
13:49 * LeeJ    waves
13:49 LeeJ      morning all
13:50 LeeJ      cait: that OpenLibrarySearch bug is strange...and makes no sense
13:51 cait      huh
13:51 cait      but it means it's broken for you too?
13:51 cait      we found it stepping through release notes, not sure how it should look like
13:53 LeeJ      cait: yes! I even ran reset_all and restart_all on kohadevbox and it happened
13:55 LeeJ      cait: my first thought was it could be a square or curly bracket being left out but they all seem to match up..not sure where to check from there LOL
13:57 cait      mabe the json/xml or whatever structure they return changed?
13:57 cait      because if you click on the link it does return results
13:57 cait      but Koha doesn't seem able to parse them correctly :(
13:59 LeeJ      which version did you test it on? your stable one? I tested it on master a few minutes ago and it happened.
14:28 cait      LeeJ: it displayed?
14:29 cait      i tested on master and on 16.11
14:29 cait      could you install german templates and compare?
14:29 LeeJ      cait: clarification..."it happened" == "the json error happened" :P
14:31 cait      ah!
14:31 cait      yeah rean into it on 16.11 then cnfirmed on master before filing the bug
14:37 cait      hm
14:38 cait      i can only change the permissions for adding7editing my shared private lists when i allow users to create public lists...
14:38 cait      that doesn't make sense
14:49 LeeJ      that's odd
15:24 tcohen    Joubu++
15:49 cait      Joubu++
16:05 reiveune  bye
16:11 LeeJ      Joubu: one of the attachments (58685) to Bug 17864 has an incorrect bug number in the subject..made note of it in the signoff comment. How should it be handled if at all?
16:12 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17864 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , Increase test coverage on admin pages
16:59 Joubu     LeeJ: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17864#c5
16:59 huginn    04Bug 17864: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , Increase test coverage on admin pages
16:59 Joubu     bug number in the commit message is ok
17:00 cait      looks like LeeJ fixed it :)
17:00 cait      https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=58685&action=edit
17:00 cait      was wrong
17:03 Joubu     k
17:03 Joubu     cait: on https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Getting_involved, there is a link to Documenting_Koha, should it be https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual?
17:04 Joubu     (red link)
17:04 cait      i was torn about moving one or changing the other
17:04 cait      maybe easier to just change it to editing hte manual?
17:04 cait      Joubu: I'dlike to fix bug 18817 tonight
17:04 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18817 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Screenshots not appearing in the manual linked to the Help tab
17:04 cait      are you ok with changing to koha-community.org/documentation?
17:05 cait      was the solution rangi suggested when i talked to him this morning
17:06 cait      i mean change the getting involved page
17:06 Joubu     ok for renaming the page on the getting involved, I will do it
17:07 Joubu     about the manual, I think it would be better to have manual.k-c.org to point to k-c.org/manual, or the reverse
17:07 Joubu     but now we have 2 links and 1 is broken
17:08 cait      i am not sure who can access it
17:11 Joubu     tcohen: do you know who hosts manual.k-c.org? (not listed on the wiki)
17:22 ___       Print ticket from the user when booking at KOHA, ideas please thanks
17:43 tcohen    ___: on the patron (the user) page, there's a nice 'Print' button
17:43 tcohen    Joubu: you should ask wizzyrea
17:43 * tcohen  passes the ball fast haha
17:44 Joubu     tcohen: apparently rangi does not know
17:44 tcohen    it certaintly just redirects to the community site
17:46 tcohen    and it just contains (wrong) links to the 3.2 version
17:46 tcohen    http://manual.koha-community.org/3.2/en/
17:47 tcohen    &copy; 2010-2011 Koha Library Software Community
17:47 tcohen    whois manual.koha-community.org
17:47 tcohen    oops
17:48 tcohen    Joubu: ByWater
17:48 tcohen    http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://manual.koha-community.org
18:00 cait      khall: do you have access to manual.koha-community.org?
18:00 khall     cait, afraid not.
18:00 khall     larryb would though
18:00 cait      ah
18:01 cait      just trying to figure out how to best fix links to the koha manual
18:01 khall     I left him a later to have him shut down that server. is that what should be done?
18:01 cait      might be best
18:01 cait      not sure if we could redirect to koha-community.org/manual?
18:03 cait      who could do the redirect once the server is gone?
18:03 khall     I'll ping him about hat too
18:04 cait      thx khall!
18:25 tcohen    khall: we should change the DNS and do the redirect (maybe) on the same koha-community.org server
18:25 khall     good thought
18:25 * talljoy feels like she kicked a hornet's nest
18:25 tcohen    no point having a whole server for a redirect =D
18:25 khall     who controls that server? bws?
18:26 khall     I mean the DNS records
18:28 Joubu     nope I think it's rangi
18:33 cait      talljoy: nope you didn't - we should relaly fix that!
18:34 cait      just haven't figured it out quite yet... and before changing all the help files i'd like to have a plan :)
18:34 talljoy   me too.
18:34 talljoy   :D
18:34 * talljoy didn't want to fix 212 files
18:37 LeeJ      can anyone explain what t/db_dependent/rollingloans.t is used for? It appears that t/db_dependent/Circulation/issues.t covers all the tests that it tries to do..
18:37 Joubu     talljoy: it can certainly be scripted easily
18:39 Joubu     LeeJ: it looks useless
18:40 LeeJ      Joubu: I would strongly agree. It appears to be a half-baked attempt at what issues.t tests. Perhaps I should just add a patch to Bug 18797 that removes it?
18:40 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18797 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , t/db_dependent/rollingloans.t is skipping
18:41 Joubu     I would need to deep a bit more to make sure the test exists somewhere else
18:41 Joubu     but if you did and confirm, yes it's the way to go
18:42 LeeJ      I'll look around myself..it appears to be testing 24- and 48-hour loans? I honestly can't even find a solid definition of what a "rolling loan" is to be honest
18:43 LeeJ      it would be nice if all the test files had authors listed so I could just ask :P
18:45 Joubu     git log t/db_dependent/rollingloans.t will give you the author list
18:45 cait      LeeJ: if you browse the git repository
18:45 cait      ah
18:45 cait      or that :)
18:45 LeeJ      oooh
18:45 cait      i often use the web version for that - navigate to the file and look at the history
18:46 LeeJ      it would help if I noticed the history button on every file, huh? ;)
18:49 LeeJ      it appears rangi co-committed it :)
19:45 huginn    New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18582 - Hide empty rows in detailed suggestion view <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7bcc226facc17eca9bc94cbab9535b2677462446> / Bug 18697: Final polishing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e9701c36a6743eff72b8127de2cc79ff463013b> / Bug 18697: Adjusting unit tests for dayly serial frequencies <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=
21:04 rangi     Joubu: merged your dashboard changes
21:04 Joubu     whaou, quick :)
21:10 cait1     oh something new?
21:11 rangi     not noticable
21:13 rangi     just in the background
21:14 cait1     ok
21:16 rangi     oops your url got messed up in that email joubu
21:16 rangi     cait1: the email explains it
21:16 barton    hey #koha, I just escalated the severity of Bug 18242
21:16 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18242 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Move of checkouts to old_issues is not handled correctly
21:17 Joubu     how did I do that... :-/
21:17 barton    oops, hold on, wrong bug number.
21:17 barton    I just escalated Bug 18428
21:17 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18428 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , move of holds to old_reserves is not handled correctly.
21:18 rangi     lets not rush that
21:18 rangi     like we did with issues
21:18 cait      thx rangi, just spotted it on the mailinglist
21:18 rangi     because the 'fix' was so so so so so much worse than the bug
21:18 barton    which is the same situation in reserves tat we were having with issue id.
21:18 rangi     yeah lets not do what we did with issues
21:18 rangi     cos currently returns/checkins are broken
21:18 cait      :(
21:19 rangi     because of that fix
21:20 Joubu     rangi: no it was not
21:20 Joubu     without the first fix, there was data lost
21:20 Joubu     with the first fix: you cannot checkin, but the circ history is not lost!
21:20 rangi     yeah well if you cant return anything
21:20 rangi     thats worse
21:20 Joubu     now we need the second fix
21:21 rangi     there was sometimes data lost, in some libraries, now, no one can return a book, try explaining that to your patrons
21:21 rangi     so lets fix it properly, rather than in a hurry and make it worse again
21:22 Joubu     I would explain them that the fix has been provided 2 hours after it has been detected
21:22 rangi     yes
21:22 Joubu     and now is waiting for people to care
21:22 rangi     thats fine, lets not repeat that
21:22 barton    rangi: I think the right place to fix this is in the mysql init file.
21:22 barton    ... we fix the problem on server startup, then we don't have to worry about it.
21:24 rangi     thats not so hard for debian
21:24 rangi     there is a /etc/mysql/conf.d/
21:24 wahanui   Hmm.  No matches for that, rangi.
21:24 barton    by 'fix the problem' I mean set the auto_increment for issues and reserves.
21:25 rangi     and my.cnf does includedir /etc/mysql/conf.d/
21:25 rangi     so you can put a koha.cnf in there
21:25 rangi     and it will be used
21:25 rangi     and not overwritten by mysql upgrades
21:25 barton    excellent. We should probably do the same thing for the deleted* tables.
21:25 eythian   @wunder ams
21:25 huginn    eythian: Error: No such location could be found.
21:26 wizzyrea  i think the wunderground plugin is broken :(
21:26 eythian   I think so
21:26 wizzyrea  also hi
21:26 eythian   Hi
21:26 eythian   It's 28° inside at the moment.
21:26 wizzyrea  that's too warm
21:26 eythian   I'm melting here
21:27 cait      I feel with you, it's too warm here too
21:27 eythian   Officially a heat wave.
21:27 Joubu     I do not find where we talked about that change in the mysql conf, but we did already
21:28 rangi     also, everyone should probably be patching all their stuff and rebooting about now
21:28 rangi     https://www.qualys.com/2017/06/19/stack-clash/stack-clash.txt
21:31 rangi     im going to reboot the bugs server soon
21:31 eythian   Good thing it's a local attack, and there isn't, say, an exim exploit to take advantage of it. Oh wait.
21:32 jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D8 build #204: SUCCESS in 1 hr 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/204/
21:32 jenkins   * jonathan.druart: Bug 18806: Fix batch revert
21:32 jenkins   * jonathan.druart: Bug 18807: Fix tests www/batch.t
21:32 jenkins   * jonathan.druart: Bug 18807: t/db_dependent/www/batch.t fails
21:32 jenkins   * jonathan.druart: Bug 18356: Extend GetNextDate.t, add GetFictiveIssueNumber.t (unit=year)
21:32 jenkins   * jonathan.druart: Bug 18356: Fix date calculations for yearly frequencies in Serials
21:32 jenkins   * jonathan.druart: Bug 18607: Fix date calculations for monthly frequencies in Serials
21:32 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18806 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Cannot revert a batch
21:32 jenkins   * jonathan.druart: Bug 18607: Adjusting unit tests for monthly serial frequencies
21:32 jenkins   * jonathan.druart: Bug 18697: Fix date calculations for weekly frequencies in Serials
21:32 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18807 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , www/batch.t is failing
21:32 jenkins   * jonathan.druart: Bug 18697: Adjusting unit tests for weekly serial frequencies
21:32 jenkins   * jonathan.druart: Bug 18697: Fix date calculation for dayly frequencies in Serials
21:32 jenkins   * jonathan.druart: Bug 18697: Adjusting unit tests for dayly serial frequencies
21:32 jenkins   * jonathan.druart: Bug 18697: Final polishing
21:32 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18356 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Prediction pattern wrong, skips years, for some year based frequencies
21:32 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18607 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Fix date calculations for monthly frequencies in Serials
21:32 jenkins   * jonathan.druart: Bug 18582 - Hide empty rows in detailed suggestion view
21:32 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18697 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Fix date calculations for day/week frequencies in Serials
21:32 huginn    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18582 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hide empty rows in detailed suggestion view
21:33 rangi     heh
21:33 rangi     https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-1000369
21:35 rangi     https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-1000369
21:35 rangi     hmm why did i paste that url twice
21:35 rangi     https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-1000366
21:35 rangi     is the one i meant
21:36 rangi     so yeah, fun and games
21:38 wizzyrea  where fun is not fun and games is pretty much torture.
22:46 Joubu     @later tell mtompset you are not supposed to signoff the patches where I added the "Academy" kw, it was for KohaCon17 hackfest...
22:46 huginn    Joubu: The operation succeeded.