Time Nick Message 02:11 wizzyrea hi 03:13 minnalyne Hello, I was able to successfully install Koha on a server. However, when I continue to follow the tutorials on the web, I do not have the default information. Namely, frameworks, Item Types, Authorized Values. Did I miss a step? I run the stable main option today. Thank your for your advice. 03:15 wizzyrea hi, when you installed Koha did you install the sample data for those things? 03:15 wizzyrea if you don't, you'll need to add them yourself, that stuff is all under "Administration" 03:15 wizzyrea installing the default frameworks is slightly more involved. 03:16 wizzyrea not the default frameworks, the sample frameworks 03:16 minnalyne Yes, I checked all boxes then Import 03:17 wizzyrea hm. 03:17 wizzyrea ah, that's a bug 03:17 wizzyrea https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18741 03:17 huginn 04Bug 18741: critical, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Web installer does not load default data 03:18 wizzyrea so it's not your fault 03:18 wizzyrea but, it will be released in the next update 03:18 wizzyrea which really, should be in the next few days 03:19 wizzyrea i mean the fix will be released in the next few days 03:20 minnalyne Ok, I'll wait then. 03:20 minnalyne Is it a stable release? Or do I have to patch it on the web client? 03:20 wizzyrea rangi what day do the minors usually come out? 03:20 wizzyrea 23rd? 03:20 wizzyrea (ish) 03:21 wizzyrea you'd do an apt-get upgrade koha-common 03:21 rangi supposed to be every 22nd 03:21 wizzyrea so yeah not long for the 17.05.01 release, in theory 03:22 rangi but unless they rerun the webinstaller it wont catch it anyway eh? 03:22 wizzyrea yep 03:22 minnalyne ok, cool. 03:23 wizzyrea when you've got the update, you'll need/want to remove your instance, and start with a new instance, so you can get all the sample data installed. 03:23 wizzyrea or create a new instance alongside the old one. how you handle that is up to you, depending on what you've got in your current instance. 03:24 minnalyne understood. thank you for clearing it up. 03:44 minnalyne do you think it's the same thing with 'null' values in Citation in Manage Staged Marc21 records? 03:58 wizzyrea Hm, that one I'm not sure about, usually whatever is in the records comes through 03:58 wizzyrea so possibly it's not in your records 05:14 cait t 06:30 fridolin hie there 06:46 drojf hi #koha 06:48 marcelr hi #koha 06:50 reiveune hello 06:50 wahanui privet, reiveune 06:56 alex_a bonjour 06:56 wahanui bidet, alex_a 09:00 eythian http://www.parool.nl/amsterdam/in-de-stad-kan-het-aanvoelen-als-34-graden~a4501523/ <-- 😱 11:51 * cait waves 12:01 * magnuse waves to cait alex_a and khall 12:01 alex_a \o 12:01 caboose hello cait and manguse! 12:02 cait hi caboose and magnuse! 12:02 magnuse hiya caboose and kellym and marcelr 12:02 marcelr hi magnuse 12:02 wahanui kamelÃ¥sÃ¥ 12:03 magnuse \o/ 12:03 * magnuse wishes there was more koha in denmark 12:04 cait whereas UNIMARC tends to be used in Europe. 12:04 cait we shoud fix that 12:11 khall mornin! 12:12 cait mornin khall! 12:14 caboose howdy barton, khall! 12:15 barton morning caboose! 12:20 * cait wonders how to translate onboarding tool into German 12:45 Nemo_bis caboose: Kran :P 12:46 caboose :) 12:46 caboose ha ha 13:15 tcohen morning 13:15 cait hi tcohen :) 13:15 tcohen hi cait :-D 13:16 cait did you get my email? :) 13:17 tcohen I did =D 13:49 * LeeJ waves 13:49 LeeJ morning all 13:50 LeeJ cait: that OpenLibrarySearch bug is strange...and makes no sense 13:51 cait huh 13:51 cait but it means it's broken for you too? 13:51 cait we found it stepping through release notes, not sure how it should look like 13:53 LeeJ cait: yes! I even ran reset_all and restart_all on kohadevbox and it happened 13:55 LeeJ cait: my first thought was it could be a square or curly bracket being left out but they all seem to match up..not sure where to check from there LOL 13:57 cait mabe the json/xml or whatever structure they return changed? 13:57 cait because if you click on the link it does return results 13:57 cait but Koha doesn't seem able to parse them correctly :( 13:59 LeeJ which version did you test it on? your stable one? I tested it on master a few minutes ago and it happened. 14:28 cait LeeJ: it displayed? 14:29 cait i tested on master and on 16.11 14:29 cait could you install german templates and compare? 14:29 LeeJ cait: clarification..."it happened" == "the json error happened" :P 14:31 cait ah! 14:31 cait yeah rean into it on 16.11 then cnfirmed on master before filing the bug 14:37 cait hm 14:38 cait i can only change the permissions for adding7editing my shared private lists when i allow users to create public lists... 14:38 cait that doesn't make sense 14:49 LeeJ that's odd 15:24 tcohen Joubu++ 15:49 cait Joubu++ 16:05 reiveune bye 16:11 LeeJ Joubu: one of the attachments (58685) to Bug 17864 has an incorrect bug number in the subject..made note of it in the signoff comment. How should it be handled if at all? 16:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17864 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , Increase test coverage on admin pages 16:59 Joubu LeeJ: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17864#c5 16:59 huginn 04Bug 17864: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , Increase test coverage on admin pages 16:59 Joubu bug number in the commit message is ok 17:00 cait looks like LeeJ fixed it :) 17:00 cait https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=58685&action=edit 17:00 cait was wrong 17:03 Joubu k 17:03 Joubu cait: on https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Getting_involved, there is a link to Documenting_Koha, should it be https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual? 17:04 Joubu (red link) 17:04 cait i was torn about moving one or changing the other 17:04 cait maybe easier to just change it to editing hte manual? 17:04 cait Joubu: I'dlike to fix bug 18817 tonight 17:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18817 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Screenshots not appearing in the manual linked to the Help tab 17:04 cait are you ok with changing to koha-community.org/documentation? 17:05 cait was the solution rangi suggested when i talked to him this morning 17:06 cait i mean change the getting involved page 17:06 Joubu ok for renaming the page on the getting involved, I will do it 17:07 Joubu about the manual, I think it would be better to have manual.k-c.org to point to k-c.org/manual, or the reverse 17:07 Joubu but now we have 2 links and 1 is broken 17:08 cait i am not sure who can access it 17:11 Joubu tcohen: do you know who hosts manual.k-c.org? (not listed on the wiki) 17:22 ___ Print ticket from the user when booking at KOHA, ideas please thanks 17:43 tcohen ___: on the patron (the user) page, there's a nice 'Print' button 17:43 tcohen Joubu: you should ask wizzyrea 17:43 * tcohen passes the ball fast haha 17:44 Joubu tcohen: apparently rangi does not know 17:44 tcohen it certaintly just redirects to the community site 17:46 tcohen and it just contains (wrong) links to the 3.2 version 17:46 tcohen http://manual.koha-community.org/3.2/en/ 17:47 tcohen © 2010-2011 Koha Library Software Community 17:47 tcohen whois manual.koha-community.org 17:47 tcohen oops 17:48 tcohen Joubu: ByWater 17:48 tcohen http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://manual.koha-community.org 18:00 cait khall: do you have access to manual.koha-community.org? 18:00 khall cait, afraid not. 18:00 khall larryb would though 18:00 cait ah 18:01 cait just trying to figure out how to best fix links to the koha manual 18:01 khall I left him a later to have him shut down that server. is that what should be done? 18:01 cait might be best 18:01 cait not sure if we could redirect to koha-community.org/manual? 18:03 cait who could do the redirect once the server is gone? 18:03 khall I'll ping him about hat too 18:04 cait thx khall! 18:25 tcohen khall: we should change the DNS and do the redirect (maybe) on the same koha-community.org server 18:25 khall good thought 18:25 * talljoy feels like she kicked a hornet's nest 18:25 tcohen no point having a whole server for a redirect =D 18:25 khall who controls that server? bws? 18:26 khall I mean the DNS records 18:28 Joubu nope I think it's rangi 18:33 cait talljoy: nope you didn't - we should relaly fix that! 18:34 cait just haven't figured it out quite yet... and before changing all the help files i'd like to have a plan :) 18:34 talljoy me too. 18:34 talljoy :D 18:34 * talljoy didn't want to fix 212 files 18:37 LeeJ can anyone explain what t/db_dependent/rollingloans.t is used for? It appears that t/db_dependent/Circulation/issues.t covers all the tests that it tries to do.. 18:37 Joubu talljoy: it can certainly be scripted easily 18:39 Joubu LeeJ: it looks useless 18:40 LeeJ Joubu: I would strongly agree. It appears to be a half-baked attempt at what issues.t tests. Perhaps I should just add a patch to Bug 18797 that removes it? 18:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18797 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , t/db_dependent/rollingloans.t is skipping 18:41 Joubu I would need to deep a bit more to make sure the test exists somewhere else 18:41 Joubu but if you did and confirm, yes it's the way to go 18:42 LeeJ I'll look around myself..it appears to be testing 24- and 48-hour loans? I honestly can't even find a solid definition of what a "rolling loan" is to be honest 18:43 LeeJ it would be nice if all the test files had authors listed so I could just ask :P 18:45 Joubu git log t/db_dependent/rollingloans.t will give you the author list 18:45 cait LeeJ: if you browse the git repository 18:45 cait ah 18:45 cait or that :) 18:45 LeeJ oooh 18:45 cait i often use the web version for that - navigate to the file and look at the history 18:46 LeeJ it would help if I noticed the history button on every file, huh? ;) 18:49 LeeJ it appears rangi co-committed it :) 19:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18582 - Hide empty rows in detailed suggestion view <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7bcc226facc17eca9bc94cbab9535b2677462446> / Bug 18697: Final polishing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e9701c36a6743eff72b8127de2cc79ff463013b> / Bug 18697: Adjusting unit tests for dayly serial frequencies <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h= 21:04 rangi Joubu: merged your dashboard changes 21:04 Joubu whaou, quick :) 21:10 cait1 oh something new? 21:11 rangi not noticable 21:13 rangi just in the background 21:14 cait1 ok 21:16 rangi oops your url got messed up in that email joubu 21:16 rangi cait1: the email explains it 21:16 barton hey #koha, I just escalated the severity of Bug 18242 21:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18242 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Move of checkouts to old_issues is not handled correctly 21:17 Joubu how did I do that... :-/ 21:17 barton oops, hold on, wrong bug number. 21:17 barton I just escalated Bug 18428 21:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18428 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , move of holds to old_reserves is not handled correctly. 21:18 rangi lets not rush that 21:18 rangi like we did with issues 21:18 cait thx rangi, just spotted it on the mailinglist 21:18 rangi because the 'fix' was so so so so so much worse than the bug 21:18 barton which is the same situation in reserves tat we were having with issue id. 21:18 rangi yeah lets not do what we did with issues 21:18 rangi cos currently returns/checkins are broken 21:18 cait :( 21:19 rangi because of that fix 21:20 Joubu rangi: no it was not 21:20 Joubu without the first fix, there was data lost 21:20 Joubu with the first fix: you cannot checkin, but the circ history is not lost! 21:20 rangi yeah well if you cant return anything 21:20 rangi thats worse 21:20 Joubu now we need the second fix 21:21 rangi there was sometimes data lost, in some libraries, now, no one can return a book, try explaining that to your patrons 21:21 rangi so lets fix it properly, rather than in a hurry and make it worse again 21:22 Joubu I would explain them that the fix has been provided 2 hours after it has been detected 21:22 rangi yes 21:22 Joubu and now is waiting for people to care 21:22 rangi thats fine, lets not repeat that 21:22 barton rangi: I think the right place to fix this is in the mysql init file. 21:22 barton ... we fix the problem on server startup, then we don't have to worry about it. 21:24 rangi thats not so hard for debian 21:24 rangi there is a /etc/mysql/conf.d/ 21:24 wahanui Hmm. No matches for that, rangi. 21:24 barton by 'fix the problem' I mean set the auto_increment for issues and reserves. 21:25 rangi and my.cnf does includedir /etc/mysql/conf.d/ 21:25 rangi so you can put a koha.cnf in there 21:25 rangi and it will be used 21:25 rangi and not overwritten by mysql upgrades 21:25 barton excellent. We should probably do the same thing for the deleted* tables. 21:25 eythian @wunder ams 21:25 huginn eythian: Error: No such location could be found. 21:26 wizzyrea i think the wunderground plugin is broken :( 21:26 eythian I think so 21:26 wizzyrea also hi 21:26 eythian Hi 21:26 eythian It's 28° inside at the moment. 21:26 wizzyrea that's too warm 21:26 eythian I'm melting here 21:27 cait I feel with you, it's too warm here too 21:27 eythian Officially a heat wave. 21:27 Joubu I do not find where we talked about that change in the mysql conf, but we did already 21:28 rangi also, everyone should probably be patching all their stuff and rebooting about now 21:28 rangi https://www.qualys.com/2017/06/19/stack-clash/stack-clash.txt 21:31 rangi im going to reboot the bugs server soon 21:31 eythian Good thing it's a local attack, and there isn't, say, an exim exploit to take advantage of it. Oh wait. 21:32 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #204: SUCCESS in 1 hr 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/204/ 21:32 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18806: Fix batch revert 21:32 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18807: Fix tests www/batch.t 21:32 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18807: t/db_dependent/www/batch.t fails 21:32 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18356: Extend GetNextDate.t, add GetFictiveIssueNumber.t (unit=year) 21:32 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18356: Fix date calculations for yearly frequencies in Serials 21:32 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18607: Fix date calculations for monthly frequencies in Serials 21:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18806 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Cannot revert a batch 21:32 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18607: Adjusting unit tests for monthly serial frequencies 21:32 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18697: Fix date calculations for weekly frequencies in Serials 21:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18807 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , www/batch.t is failing 21:32 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18697: Adjusting unit tests for weekly serial frequencies 21:32 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18697: Fix date calculation for dayly frequencies in Serials 21:32 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18697: Adjusting unit tests for dayly serial frequencies 21:32 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18697: Final polishing 21:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18356 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Prediction pattern wrong, skips years, for some year based frequencies 21:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18607 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Fix date calculations for monthly frequencies in Serials 21:32 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18582 - Hide empty rows in detailed suggestion view 21:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18697 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Fix date calculations for day/week frequencies in Serials 21:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18582 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hide empty rows in detailed suggestion view 21:33 rangi heh 21:33 rangi https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-1000369 21:35 rangi https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-1000369 21:35 rangi hmm why did i paste that url twice 21:35 rangi https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-1000366 21:35 rangi is the one i meant 21:36 rangi so yeah, fun and games 21:38 wizzyrea where fun is not fun and games is pretty much torture. 22:46 Joubu @later tell mtompset you are not supposed to signoff the patches where I added the "Academy" kw, it was for KohaCon17 hackfest... 22:46 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.