Time Nick Message 23:05 CrispyBran have a good night all 23:05 CrispyBran rangi thanks. I'll have to pick alex's brain on this. Some of the commands are not recognized. 22:50 rangi https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Resizing_your_devbox 22:49 rangi 2 secs 22:49 rangi but alexbuckley wrote it all up 22:48 rangi yeah, its not easy 22:46 CrispyBran Anyone know how to get more space on the kohadevbox? 22:14 rangi theres your real problem ;-) 22:14 rangi ah ha 22:14 CrispyBran dir 22:14 CrispyBran Hmmmm.... No space left on device 22:10 CrispyBran No. I don't know that one. 22:09 rangi have you tried a git gc 22:08 CrispyBran Yes I did. Trying to figure out how to fix it. 22:06 rangi did you google the error? sounds like your local repo is a little messed up 22:04 CrispyBran :/ Okay then. Back to the drawing board. 22:03 rangi nope 22:01 CrispyBran anyone having trouble doing a git pull today? 20:57 kellym back 18:19 oleonard I like it 18:19 Joubu It will be used in conjunction with the didactic tutorial I am writing 18:17 * oleonard shakes his fist at trailing spaces 18:16 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18584 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Our legacy code contains trailing-spaces 18:16 oleonard Bug 18584 is a good idea Joubu 18:12 CrispyBran Cannot obtain needed tree blah while processing commit blah. Seems to think I am processing a commit 18:07 oleonard Sorry CrispyBran I don't know 18:04 CrispyBran error: Unable to find 375ee2663ab254ad4bfc5ce4166b02cc6d4b20d9 under http://git.koha-community.org/koha.git 18:03 oleonard CrispyBran: Did it fail with an error message? 17:57 CrispyBran what does it mean when I do a git pull and the fetch failed? 17:55 oleonard Ah never mind oleonard from 2011, you're off the hook. "patronreason" will only display authorized values. 17:53 edveal LOL So you wern't really interested in the reson why they made the suggestion where you? 17:52 oleonard I hate that guy, he was the worst. 17:51 oleonard Luckily git is around to blame ME FROM 2011 :( 17:50 edveal_lunch oleonard, sounds like backend dev before front end dev. Or just, "oh well,we don't really need their reson"... LOL 17:46 oleonard Why does the staff client have a means of displaying a suggestion's "patronreason" but the OPAC doesn't have a way for the patron to give it? 16:17 huginn_ CrispyBran: bag was last seen in #koha 18 hours, 29 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <bag> if there is baseball I’m there :P 16:17 CrispyBran @seen bag 16:02 ashimema :) 15:51 * Joubu is going to write a script to automatically fail QA when changes are not covered by tests... 15:47 huginn_ Joubu: The operation succeeded. 15:47 Joubu @later tell drojf ping! 15:40 reiveune bye 14:58 oleonard When LibraryClaire gets back from reading The Leopard I'll have to ask her how she liked it. 14:49 oleonard "The Leopard...is considered one of the most important novels in modern Italian literature." Never heard of it. Curse my American public education. 14:48 eythian It's a horse made of gateau 14:47 * oleonard would definitely check out the Leopold Museum 14:47 LibraryClaire gattopardo :D 14:46 eythian ah, good find 14:46 oleonard #koha comes through 14:45 kidclamp http://www.retemusealebelicina.it/en/museo-del-gattopardo/ 14:45 eythian oleopold, that is 14:45 eythian http://www.leopoldmuseum.org/en <-- best I can do, sorry oleopard 14:43 eythian (with a bit of a Duchlish exhibition name at the moment, of course.) 14:43 oleonard Where is a museum of all the leopards. 14:41 eythian http://tassenmuseum.nl/en/ <-- bag, there's a museum for you here. 14:41 huginn_ oleonard: bag was last seen in #koha 16 hours, 53 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <bag> if there is baseball I’m there :P 14:41 oleonard @seen bag 14:38 CrispyBran ? 14:38 CrispyBran bag: are you there/ 14:25 oleonard Yeah I don't know what was going on there. 14:24 Joubu I do not recreate that 14:21 oleonard the user and password in <serverinfo id="biblioserver"> 14:21 Joubu I did not read everything carefully, just a quick backlog 14:20 Joubu oleonard: the zebra db?? 14:19 eythian heh 14:19 wahanui snacks++ 14:19 snacks hi eythian 14:19 oleonard snacks++ 14:19 eythian fair enough :) 14:18 mtj hiya eythian, yeah, is late here.. i just happened to be up, having a little snack :) 14:14 eythian hi oleopard 14:14 wahanui oleonard++ 14:14 oleonard hi eythian 14:13 eythian hi mtj, aren't you up late? 14:12 oleonard Interesting. But why could they log in as the zebra db user? 14:11 Joubu oleonard: it sounds like it is the bug sonOfRa described earlier 14:11 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18442 critical, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Pushed to Master , Permission error when logging into staff interface as db user 14:11 Joubu cait, jajm, mtj: bug 18442 should be backported for the next release 14:09 oleonard sonOfRa still around? 13:57 Joubu thx 13:56 mtj hiya Joubu, yep, i do plan to :0) 13:55 huginn_ Joubu: The operation succeeded. 13:55 Joubu @later tell mtj: could you take a look at bug 18066? It would be great to have it backported to all stable versions for the next releases 13:48 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18066 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Hea - Version 2 13:48 Joubu mtj: could you take a look at bug 18066? It would be great to have it backported to all stable versions for the next releases 13:26 wahanui eythian: what? 13:26 eythian wahanui: you heard me 13:26 wahanui eythian: excuse me? 13:26 eythian wahanui feels that people need more positive reinforcement. 13:21 tcohen hahaha 13:21 wahanui tcohen++ 13:21 tcohen hi eythian 13:21 eythian I hope you got the Rijskmuseum cleaned up. 13:19 marcelr hallo eythian 13:19 eythian hi tcohen, marcelr 13:06 sonOfRa Some of the entries may not even be classified with anything, because they might be internal papers, unpublished dissertations, all kinds of things 13:05 marcelr joking++ 13:05 sonOfRa Hm. Don't see a fast add framework in this instance. Is there a way I can limit this to essentially "Enter a Title, an Author, and an ISBN(if present)", and that's it? I'm afraid the person who will end up adding all these fields will be quite overwhelmed with the many fields 13:05 tcohen joking 13:05 tcohen UNIMARC-- 13:04 marcelr assumptions-- 13:04 tcohen marcelr: oops :-D 12:59 sonOfRa Connection to the library of congress servers fails. Are those only available to american IP addresses, by chance? 12:55 sonOfRa Fast Add framework also sounds good. I'll look into these things 12:54 sonOfRa oleonard-away: thanks, that looks helpful 12:53 magnuse can i do another ncip call in 38 minutes ? 12:52 magnuse or use the Fast Add framework if you can't import records 12:51 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "sonOfRa: Sample Z39.50 server data" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/405 12:50 oleonard http://zivotdesign.com/p/uploads/big/c3b1125cd27dbdfe818f2cb92cfeab74.png 12:48 sonOfRa Must've missed that or skipped it 12:48 oleonard sonOfRa: The installation process should have given you the option of including some sample data 12:47 sonOfRa The search told me I didn't have any targets to search, I suppose that's because I didn't import any search servers 12:47 sonOfRa Ah, I haven't seen any sample data. I suppose I can try finding those. 12:47 oleonard I don't know if you imported all the sample data? Some Z39.50 servers should have been included in that I think 12:46 oleonard sonOfRa: One good method is to use the Z39.50 search to import existing records which match the titles you have 12:45 oleonard It's okay most librarians don't either ;) 12:45 sonOfRa I don't even know what half these fields *mean* 12:45 sonOfRa I'm completely ignorant of how *professional* libraries are managed, but is there a simpler UI to add new books (or other records) than the rather complicated-looking UI under the Cataloguing menu? 12:39 tcohen hola #koha 12:34 sonOfRa Yeah. Might have to set that up properly, because currently we only have starttls set up, I believe (which connects to the ldap:// port, but then upgrades to TLS) 12:34 sonOfRa Great 12:34 ashimema ldaps:// I beleive from memory 12:34 ashimema host can include protocol 12:33 sonOfRa It seems to take just an LDAP host, but no protocol specifier 12:33 sonOfRa https://perldoc.koha-community.org/C4/Auth_with_ldap.html hmmm, do you happen to know if this supports TLS to connect to LDAP? 12:30 sonOfRa Yeah, I just gave myself superlibrarian status, going to play around with adding books and people now. 12:29 oleonard Of course you don't need to be a "superlibrarian" to do day to day operations. 12:29 oleonard And by "work with" I mean "test" 12:29 oleonard As long as you at least have an account with "superlibrarian" permissions you have the minimum required to work with the staff client. 12:28 oleonard You'd only need more than one account if you wanted to test how the different permissions work 12:27 oleonard You can borrow books as a staff member 12:27 sonOfRa Is it generally recommended to have 2 accounts for a user who is both a staff member *and* a patron who can borrow books? Or can I safely borrow books as a staff member? 12:24 sonOfRa Now it's telling me to create a user, library, patron types etc. Excellent 12:23 sonOfRa Yep 12:22 oleonard But you're in? 12:22 oleonard I wouldn't have expected the <serverinfo> credentials to work. 12:20 sonOfRa I suppose the one in <config> is the password for the mysql-user to access the database. 12:20 sonOfRa Aha, it works with the *other* password, listed under <serverinfo> rather than <config> 12:19 sonOfRa Verified the credentials in the koha.xml file: https://slevermann.de/public/koha-creds.png (don't worry, the instance isn't publicly reachable, the passwords visible in the screenshot won't help anyone) 12:18 oleonard Okay, so at this point you will only have the database user available to log in. So my suggestion above should work. 12:17 sonOfRa koha-common/stable,now 16.11.06. 12:15 oleonard sonOfRa: What version did you install? 12:14 oleonard In the <config> section look for <user> and <pass> 12:13 oleonard sonOfRa: You should be able to confirm the correct credentials by looking at koha-conf.xml 12:10 sonOfRa https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian#Create_a_Koha_instance I followed this guide 12:10 sonOfRa So, I got a test instance up and running, and clicked my way through the web setup wizard. After it was done, it proceeded to log me out. Now I can't log back in, the data I used for logging in when starting the wizard is rejected 11:49 oleonard Hi all 11:44 eythian np 11:44 sonOfRa Well, I'll get to installing a test instance and see if any questions arise in the process. Thanks! 11:43 wahanui sonofra: wish i knew 11:43 sonOfRa wahanui: do you pass the turing test? 11:43 wahanui That'll be NOK 10 for the awesome jar, sonOfRa 11:43 sonOfRa Awesome. 11:41 eythian It'll do a whole lot more too, but whether you use that is up to you. 11:41 eythian sonOfRa: because everyone else seems to be at lunch or something, the short answer is "yes" 11:33 sonOfRa Things that would be nice: LDAP user management (as far as I can tell, koha is capable of this), and LaTeX exports of citations 11:33 sonOfRa Would koha be suitable for this? I don't have any strict requirements like deadlines etc, the only reason for the installation would be a "who has which book" registry 11:32 sonOfRa Hello Folks. I'm currently looking for a solution to manage our institute's library (around 4000 books). Currently there is no real management system. There's a "wikindx" instance, which just lists what books should be *theoretically* available, but it has no facilities to manage books that are currently in the hands of a certain user. 10:10 jajm hi :) 10:09 cait jajm++ 09:58 * cait waves+ 09:58 fridolin hie tehre 08:55 eythian hi LibraryClaire, hi cait 08:54 cait hello eythian 08:49 LibraryClaire ^^ 08:49 wahanui LibraryClaire++ 08:49 LibraryClaire hi eythian 08:48 eythian hi 08:41 cait seems germany is in the lead with Koha jobs :) 08:38 ashimema koha-jobs is a new one on me 08:08 * magnuse moved the old jobs to old jobs 08:06 cait https://magnusenger.github.io/koha-jobs/ for the logs .) 08:05 cait i think the other jobs can be moved to archive 08:05 cait magnuse++ 08:01 magnuse if i can remember how to edit it... 08:01 cait hi josef_moravec and marcelr 08:00 marcelr hi cait magnuse 08:00 cait [off] is the koha jobs site still alive? this woudl fit: https://www.uni-jena.de/Universit%C3%A4t/Stellenmarkt/Verwaltung+und+Technisches+Personal/115_2017+_+Systembibliothekar_in+an+der+Th%C3%BCringer+Universit%C3%A4ts_+und+Landesbibliothek.html 08:00 magnuse yup 08:00 josef_moravec hello cait 08:00 cait magnuse: around? 08:00 cait morning #koha 07:53 marcelr o/ 07:53 josef_moravec hi marcelr 07:46 marcelr hi #koha 06:26 wahanui bidet, reiveune 06:26 reiveune hello 06:13 * dcook breaks everything 06:13 huginn_ dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10788 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Add a Linked Data/RDF browser to the OPAC 06:13 huginn_ dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7236 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Add "Save as RDF" option to the OPAC 06:13 huginn_ dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10787 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Linked Data/RDF Omnibus 06:13 dcook @query rdf 06:13 dcook Right 06:13 huginn_ dcook: There were no matching configuration variables. 06:13 dcook @search rdf 06:13 dcook Hmm 06:07 dcook Or heya like I do when I'm feeling extra casual 06:07 dcook I think we just say "hey" 06:07 * dcook ponders 06:07 dcook As for Canadians.. 06:07 dcook Mmm g'day is traditional for Australians I think 06:06 magnuse or a canadian-australian one? 06:06 magnuse is there a typical australian greeting? 06:06 magnuse howdy dcook 06:05 dcook heya magnuse 06:04 * magnuse waves 05:43 huginn_ dcook: The operation succeeded. 05:43 dcook @later tell fredericd I recall you having an interest in RDF? Let me know if you're still interested. I'm doing some work with magnuse on this topic. 05:28 dcook Same maintainer does libmarc-record-perl apparently... 05:26 dcook But I don't think anyone ever answered or updated the package.. 05:26 dcook I know eythian raised an issue on Zebra 2.0.59 with https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=777515 05:25 dcook Hmm trying to remember how to get Debian to update their packages.. 05:25 * dcook waves to folk 05:17 josef_moravec morning #koha 04:44 dcook Ahh I forgot that fredericd was interested in RDF... 04:31 dcook Whatever. I'll chat to drojf about it. 04:30 dcook Hmm ancient version though maybe 04:30 dcook It is in Debian though.. 04:30 dcook Attean might be an alternative to RDF::Trine but it has a lot of dependencies... 03:51 dcook Although my latest patch makes it work :D 03:51 dcook Oh man... bulk ops must never have worked with RDF::Trine::Store::SPARQL.. 03:43 dcook If we do use RDF::Trine, that means we'll have to roll a newer version ourselves... I think this has come up before.. 03:34 jmsasse Koha, I bid you adieu. A bientot. 03:22 dcook Hmm maybe drojf will be on tonight.. 03:20 jmsasse They do it for dental work, maybe they'll start for long flights:) 03:20 jmsasse Complete sedation from start to finish would be for me. 03:19 jmsasse Tall as well, so scrunched too. 03:18 jmsasse I'm not able to sleep in public and am a bit claustrophobic. 03:17 wizzyrea you feel excited because there are only 4 more hours, watch a few movies 03:17 dcook Mind you, they slept 7.5/15 hours, so that wasn't so bad 03:17 wizzyrea wake up, they feed you 03:17 wizzyrea you eat it, go to sleep 03:17 dcook I had a 10 month old baby on the last one 03:17 wizzyrea you get on, they give you food 03:17 dcook I don't even mind the long ones so much 03:17 wizzyrea long ones anyway 03:17 wizzyrea plane rides aren't so bad, basically think of it like a really uncomfortable sleepover. 03:16 dcook Hmm looks like the RDF::Trine in Jessie is buggy... 03:15 BobB will do, thx 03:15 BobB two weeks! crikey 03:15 jmsasse Thanks, Bob. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you in August. 03:14 jmsasse I go for the aisle too. 03:14 BobB anyhoo, customers waiting, will keep you updated jsasse 03:13 dcook BobB: That's old news. I think he got released today after two weeks in prison :). 03:13 jmsasse Aussie, I believe. Claims back injury, etc. 03:13 BobB i always try to get an aisle seat, so at least can escape for a while 03:13 jmsasse I saw that a person is suing an airline for being stuck between two obese people on a flight from Austrailia to US 03:12 BobB Immigration people are never friendly, now it seems they have license to be even more overbearing 03:11 jmsasse That's a good question.. 03:11 BobB today we heard of an aussie guy got detained for overstaying his visa 90 minutes 03:11 BobB yeah is it still safe to come to US? 03:10 jmsasse With all the incidents on US airlines lately, that may not be the best idea 03:10 BobB though I avoid it, dehydrating 03:09 BobB alcohol works :) 03:09 BobB well its never fun, its just to be endured, for a purpose 03:09 jmsasse I would need to be be sedated. 03:09 jmsasse BobB: I envy your ability to be on a plane that long. 03:09 BobB joel I'll let you know when we decide ok? 03:08 dcook Then librdf-trine-perl_1.011-2.debian.tar.xz will contain any patches that maintainers have made? 03:08 dcook So librdf-trine-perl_1.011.orig.tar.gz contains the original original source... 03:07 BobB QF put LA on sale yesterday, but yeah, still spendy 03:07 wizzyrea yeah 03:07 BobB are they in Kansas? 03:06 wizzyrea which is spendy :/ 03:06 wizzyrea but they require me to bring the cuddle to them 03:06 jmsasse :) 03:06 BobB aw wizz 03:06 wizzyrea i wish my parents would have the "overdue for a cuddle" feeling 03:06 dcook Actually, maybe I'll just poke around 03:06 dcook rangi: Are you still around? I'm sure you'd know the answer.. 03:05 BobB and #2 is due in Oct 03:05 dcook Hmm where's eythian when you need him 03:05 BobB #1 is 18mths old now and we are overdue for a cuddle 03:05 jmsasse Congrats on your grandchild :) 03:05 BobB so fingers crossed, but will have to see 03:05 BobB irma has family in Seattle area too 03:04 BobB we'd love to come 03:04 BobB cool 03:04 jmsasse Yes, I will. 03:04 jmsasse It would be a treat to see you and Irma again. 03:04 BobB will you be in Idaho jsaasse? 03:03 BobB we will be going to LA in October to meet a new grandchild, all being well :) 03:03 BobB still hoping to, but its not looking completely positive 03:03 BobB hmmm 03:02 jmsasse Coming to the States this August? 03:02 BobB hey 03:01 jmsasse BobB: yes I am. 03:01 BobB hi jmsasse still about? 03:00 wizzyrea Sid, that sounds right 02:59 jmsasse Not sure if they have a codename for it yet. 02:59 jmsasse I switched from Jessie to Deb 9 testing, SId I think. 02:58 wizzyrea and whatever the next one is 02:58 wizzyrea not squeeze, wheezy is getting close to going out 02:58 dcook Probably Jessie and Wheezy 02:58 dcook Jessie and Wheezy or just Jessie? 02:58 dcook What versions of Debian are we supporting again? 02:54 jmsasse Nah, I remember. 02:52 dcook Or good Googling :p 02:52 dcook Yep. Good memory. 02:50 jmsasse I think Canadians are safe. Yoour from Regina,right dcook? 02:50 dcook Right timezone so I could follow along I'm sure from the library or something 02:50 dcook hehe 02:49 wizzyrea but don't try to take your laptop :P 02:48 wizzyrea you could go to vancouver and wave to kohacon 02:48 dcook Oregon, eh? That's Pacific Northwest enough to basically be its own country. Maybe I could come to that. 02:32 jmsasse It really startled me. Installing Win10 virtual machine and bam!, there she was 02:31 wizzyrea super creepy when that happens 02:31 jmsasse OMG, Windows Cortana is talking to me! 02:29 jmsasse Koha-US will be in Idaho this year. Everyone seems to favor the west. 02:27 wizzyrea :( 02:25 jmsasse If there's anything left of America then...:( 02:24 jmsasse Coming up on 4 years this Oct. 02:24 wizzyrea has it really been 3 years since there was one in the US? 02:24 jmsasse :) 02:20 jmsasse It'll be nice to catch up with all of you overseas folks again. 02:18 rangi cool 02:17 jmsasse I heard today a system in Oregon is putting a bid to host KohaCon next year. 02:15 rangi hey again :) 02:07 jmsasse rangi: Howdy again 02:04 wizzyrea doin good :) 02:04 jmsasse How are you and the hubby? 02:01 jmsasse Yeah, I'm looking to improve my lot in life. 02:00 wizzyrea oh that's fun, the certs, not the ticking. 02:00 jmsasse Well... 02:00 jmsasse Studying for Linux+ and LPIC-1 certs 01:59 wizzyrea hopefully not ticking you off ;) 01:59 jmsasse Yes, ticking is a good way to describe things 01:58 * wizzyrea guesses that means that the library is doing well and things are ticking along 01:58 jmsasse Yes, I've heard of a few in the news. 01:58 wizzyrea (because we have earthquakes ya? :)) 01:58 jmsasse Same old, same old. 01:57 wizzyrea how about you? 01:57 jmsasse Good to hear. 01:57 wizzyrea thankfully not wellington :) 01:57 jmsasse What's shaking? 01:56 jmsasse hi wizzyrea. 01:56 wizzyrea hi jmsasse 01:56 jmsasse BobB: Hello. How goes it in Sydney? 01:42 jmsasse Almost too quiet... 01:42 jmsasse Pretty quiet around these parts today.