Time  Nick          Message
21:13 kidclamp      np, sorry I tried to derail your bug :-)
20:57 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
20:55 mtompset      kidclamp++ # thanks for the sign off. :)
20:32 kidclamp      mtompsett++
17:32 rickx         Thank you anyway
17:28 rickx         :(
17:27 oleonard      Sorry rickx maybe if I had a stiff drink I could come up with a good way to customize that
17:23 rickx         I did something on the leader and 007 tags but I do not understand how to do it on the tag 008
17:20 rickx         I try to change the default values of some drop-down list positions in tag 008
17:20 eythian       oleonard is probably not sober, he just plays it on IRC.
17:18 oleonard      rickx: I'm sober. What are you trying to change?
17:16 eythian       rickx: you're on the end of a Friday, it's quite possible most people are at the pub or sleeping off hangovers, depending on timezone :)
17:12 rickx         Could someone guide me?
17:12 rickx         But I can not
17:12 rickx         marc21_field_008.tt, marc21_field_008.pl and marc21_field_008.xml
17:12 rickx         I tried editing the files:
17:12 rickx         I want to change the default information on the tag 008
17:11 rickx         Hi everyone!
17:10 eythian       http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/animals/a14948/the-brontosaurus-is-back/ <-- wizzyrea, in case Soren doesn't already know.
17:04 huginn_       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18502 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-shell broken on dev installs
17:04 barton        ^^ for bug 18502
17:04 barton        Joubu++
16:56 huginn_       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18502 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-shell broken on dev installs
16:56 jenkins       jonathan.druart: Bug 18502: Make koha-shell set the right PERL5LIB on dev installs
16:56 jenkins       Project Koha_Master_D8 build #164: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/164/
16:53 * rickx       slaps rangi around a bit with a large fishbot
16:34 rickx         How can I manipulate the default information on the tag 008?
16:33 rickx         I have a technical question about koha
16:33 rickx         Hello everyone
16:26 huginn_       magnuse: The operation succeeded.
16:26 magnuse       @later tell rangi i tried to create an epub from the docs (master branch) and got some errors. are patches to the docs mailing list still the preferred way to contribute?
16:26 * oleonard    doesn't see a way to delete a stock rotation rota
16:24 * magnuse     will be developing against it
16:24 magnuse       but will push for it to get in early after the release
16:24 * magnuse     will not try to get ill into 17.05, then
16:21 oleonard      Thanks Joubu
16:18 Joubu         With html tags inside the TT tags
16:18 Joubu         It certainly needs to be [% IF cond %]<td>Yes</td>[% ELSE %]<td>No</td>[% END %]
16:17 Joubu         Nope
16:11 oleonard      I wonder if that is translatable
16:11 oleonard      <td>[% rota.cyclical ? 'Yes' : 'No'%]</td>
15:19 huginn_       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18502: Make koha-shell set the right PERL5LIB on dev installs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d941f36c72cedd1f006025393b194a8d695e298>
15:15 huginn_       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
15:15 tcohen        @later tell drojf can u please let me know the status of the OpenAPI, newer Mojo and JSON::Validator packaging?
15:10 Joubu         rrrhonda: Are you familiar with Koha? With bugzilla?
15:09 * Joubu       is searching on the wiki for the correct documentation
15:09 wahanui       eythian: I forgot librarian
15:09 eythian       wahanui: forget librarian
15:08 oleonard      Don't worry about wahanui rrrhonda, it's a bot
15:08 rrrhonda      with a background in programing
15:07 wahanui       i guess librarian is giving evergreen a look over two. I'd like to be able to say don't bother. but i can't yet
15:07 rrrhonda      librarian
15:07 Joubu         rrrhonda: Who are you? :) Developper or librarian?
15:07 rrrhonda      A little of both.  I think testing patches would be a good place to start.
15:05 oleonard      What kind of testing? General testing for learning purposes or testing patches?
15:04 rrrhonda      Hi,  I would like help getting started with koha testing.
15:03 oleonard      Hi evantill and rrrhonda
14:41 oleonard      In what is surely a metaphor of American politics, killing my devbox and starting over did not solve my problem.
14:36 atheia        oleonard: that's some decent gallow's humour you got going there… ;-)
14:35 atheia        Do I have to register the ILL permission within the superlibrarian permission somehow?
14:35 atheia        However when the 'superlibrarian' permission is set for that same user, the permission returns false.
14:34 atheia        So, I have a permissions check that checks for the ILL permission.  When the ILL permission is explicitly set for a user, the link appears correctly.
14:31 reiveune      bye
14:24 tcohen        \o
14:24 barton        hey #koha, I'mm adding names to the 'firendly guides' list on the GBSD page ( http://tinyurl.com/KohaGBSD-2017-05-10 ) ... I've got myself and oleonard. Anyone else want to throw their hat in the ring? Joubu? kidclamp? tcohen?
14:21 * oleonard    takes away his devbox's health care and waits for it to die
14:09 barton        aha.
14:08 kidclamp      the one without is a list of bugs from joubu
14:08 kidclamp      http://tinyurl.com/KohaGBSD-2017-05-10
14:08 barton        looks like someone already edited the page title and removed that.
14:07 kidclamp      make sure you have the exclamation point
14:07 kidclamp      edit the page if you wish
14:07 barton        kidclamp: is there a 'hand-holders' list?, if so, where do I add myself? (I prefer 'freindly guide' over 'hand-holders' :-)
14:03 barton        thanks kidclamp!
14:02 * kidclamp    shouldn't put exclamation marks in wiki titles
14:01 kidclamp      you can add yourself as a  'hand-holder' for gbsd
14:01 kidclamp      oleonard, barton: my links were bad in original email - https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2017-05-10_Global_bug_squashing_day_-_Bugs_only_edition!
13:51 Joubu         alexbuckley: answered :)
13:43 Joubu         )
13:43 huginn_       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16221 enhancement, P2, ---, abl, RESOLVED FIXED, Use Storable::dclone() instead of Clone::clone() for L1 cache deep-copying mode
13:43 Joubu         (see also Bug 16221: Use Storable::dclone() instead of Clone::clone() for L1 cache deep-copying mode
13:43 atheia        magnuse: I can confirm the link issue here. Odd, not sure how that was introduced, but will test your suggested fix.
13:42 ashimema      I've read that exact statement a few days ago and wasn't sure which way to go in his code
13:41 ashimema      hehe
13:41 * Joubu       returned to what he did before
13:41 Joubu         sorry to distract the attention
13:40 Joubu         "Storable's dclone() is a flexible solution for cloning variables, albeit slower for average-sized data structures. Simple and naive benchmarks show that Clone is faster for data structures with 3 or fewer levels, while dclone() can be faster for structures 4 or more levels deep."
13:40 atheia        oleonard: indeed… odd — but glad to hear it's applied cleanly now at least…
13:39 ashimema      that's really odd oleonard
13:39 * oleonard    tries 11897 in a different VM and it applies just fine
13:39 Joubu         I am definitely for big things pushed early
13:38 * ashimema    is glad he pointed that out/asked that question
13:38 atheia        Personally I am super confident about stockrotation, and am very happy with it's quality — ILL is getting there, but it's not on the level of stockrot.
13:38 ashimema      hehe.. :)
13:37 Joubu         nope, forget it :)
13:37 atheia        Joubu: yeah, it's a deep-hash.  would that work in that context too?
13:37 atheia        That's why getting it in would be beneficial — as a solid ground for dev.
13:37 Joubu         indeed
13:37 atheia        I think having it in relatively early in the next release would provide a great incentive to incrementally improve it over the course of the next cycle — A big part of the complexity around ILL and testing is that we need people to develop against it to get it tested properly.
13:36 ashimema      I got bit by that recently ;)
13:36 ashimema      sure it's not a deep hash Joubu?
13:36 Joubu         atheia: cloning (Clone::clone) hashref can be avoided easily with `my $clone = { %hash };`
13:35 atheia        There might also be some issues around deployment/installation.
13:35 atheia        Joubu, magnuse I personally feel ILL is at a decent initial sign off stage — but I am well aware that it falls short of the high standards that new code should follow — unit tests are patchy, documentation is iffy, and there is some legacy code.
13:35 ashimema      and to allow lots of testing whilst in the cycle
13:35 ashimema      but I would like it in as early as possible next cycle.. to ensure it's fairly back portable for those that want to undertake that for 16.05 ;)
13:34 ashimema      yeah.. ILL is certainly prime time for testing.. but not 100% for push.. needs some more tests writing as you've spotted Joubu
13:34 * tcohen      needs coffee
13:34 * oleonard    too, ashimema
13:33 Joubu         https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=63084 => contains lot of FIXME: need tests
13:33 * ashimema    also feels the same about the 'clubs' feature that was just pushed :(
13:33 Joubu         I do not decide
13:33 oleonard      Yeah I don't think we should rush this in. Too big.
13:33 atheia        Agreed.
13:33 Joubu         ashimema: I am not RM :)
13:33 ashimema      we're confident it's pretty solid.. BUT yeah.. in 5K lines there's allot of scope for something/anything to have been  missed.
13:33 oleonard      Oh I see Joubu. I didn't see the context
13:32 ashimema      atheia and I were both thinking it would be great to push it just after the release now.. so it's in nice and early in the next cycle but not in for this release
13:32 oleonard      Joubu: ?
13:31 Joubu         A 5k line patch pushed just before the release?
13:31 atheia        magnuse: testing now will let you know what I find.
13:30 magnuse       but now i gotta pick someone up from kindergarten!
13:30 magnuse       except for this i think 7317 is worthy of a signoff and would be awesome to have in 17.05
13:29 magnuse       would it be better to check for the permission as well as the syspref?
13:28 magnuse       ILL uses [% IF Koha.Preference('ILLModule') %] but all the other modules have e.g. [% IF ( CAN_user_acquisition ) %]
13:28 magnuse       atheia, oleonard: [% USE Koha %] at the top of intranet-main.tt makes the ILL link appear
13:23 atheia        (You can dm me if you prefer)
13:23 atheia        Thanks for that!  If you still get the error, would you mind sending me the commands you use from master branch, and I'll try to reproduce.
13:19 oleonard      I checked before and git status didn't show any relevant untracked files. I'll check again.
13:19 Joubu         will remove everything that is not tracked (or ignored)
13:18 Joubu         oleonard: only if you know what it does: git clean -d -f
13:18 atheia        Joubu, oleonard: also the test files!
13:17 Joubu         in your case Koha/StockRotation*
13:16 mveron-away   Have a great day / daytime #koha
13:16 Joubu         oleonard: git status; rm untracked files you want to rm
13:15 Joubu         s/him/something else
13:15 ashimema      but I'd nuke those listed untracked files and try re-applying the set to a clean branch
13:15 Joubu         git does not like that, you ask him to add a patch whereas the file already exists
13:15 ashimema      I'm not sure how you got there..
13:15 Joubu         if you apply the patch, the untracked file will be added
13:15 atheia        (Sorry, I think I missed the first part of the conversation…)
13:14 Joubu         oleonard: it says that you have the files that are untracked in your repo
13:14 atheia        so what was the troublesome patch?
13:14 atheia        oleonard: thanks — well… for me the patches apply 100% cleanly using git bz apply on a fresh branch off master…
13:13 atheia        magnuse: I'll have a look at this after the stockrotation issue
13:13 atheia        magnuse: uff — it's all weirdness with my patches today…
13:12 oleonard      I don't know if that error sheds more light or not
13:12 pastebot      "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Using git apply to apply just the troublesome patch on top of the earlier ones" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/403
13:12 cait          not sure about the t/db_d... tho
13:12 cait          they culd be left over from this
13:12 cait          hm did you regeneate the dbic files maybe?
13:12 magnuse       atheia: the ill link on the staff home page went away after i applied the rebased patches + the new ones
13:11 atheia        hola magnuse!
13:10 magnuse       kia ora atheia
13:10 ashimema      how have we got untracked files in there
13:10 atheia        oleonard: this happens on a clean git branch?
13:10 magnuse       tcohen: don't think so?
13:10 ashimema      oh.. that's odd
13:10 oleonard      http://paste.koha-community.org/402
13:10 ashimema      I've just poken alex to come online too
13:09 ashimema      fire away oleonard
13:09 tcohen        magnuse: you rebased cait?
13:09 magnuse       no, that went missing after the rebase and the last patches
13:08 oleonard      magnuse: I was just trying to test that and didn't see the ILL link on the home page. Did you?
13:08 cait          exam stress > koha fun ? :)
13:08 magnuse       the day has just flown by...
13:08 huginn_       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7317 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Needs Signoff , Add an Interlibrary Loan Module to Circulation and OPAC
13:08 magnuse       gah, i meant to sign off bug 7317
13:08 eythian       also, it's friday, I have to attend a geheim genootschap beer meeting tonight, which is good :)
13:07 oleonard      Hey ashimema I'm having trouble applying the Stock Rotation patches. Can I ask you about that?
13:06 ashimema      'tis not that bad ;)
13:05 ashimema      ;)
13:05 * magnuse     gives up
13:05 ashimema      `short few years of fun -> exam stress -> work stress -> family stress -> families exam stress -> more work stress -> death`
13:04 ashimema      haha.
13:04 * kidclamp    left out the fun bits
13:04 ashimema      yeah.. college in the UK is much the same.. you can stick to secondary school and skip college and get the same quals at the end of the day
13:04 eythian       sounds like a poor work-life balance going on there
13:03 kidclamp      preschool -> elementary school -> middle school -> high school -> college -> work -> death
13:03 ashimema      pre -> primary -> secondary -> college/sixth form -> university.. that's the standard track in UK
13:03 eythian       ashimema: to add to the confusion, college in NZ is both some high schools, and a kind of vocational post-high school institution.
13:02 kidclamp      ah, yes, it was a university too, we just never call them that
13:02 ashimema      I 'think' college in american translates to uni in uk
13:02 eythian       high school is mid teens, university is after high school
13:01 * ashimema    completed the course.. also mostly for fun..
13:01 * magnuse     is confused
13:01 magnuse       hm, or maybe it would be high school.
13:01 ashimema      few physics geeks in here then :)
13:01 ashimema      college -> university, physics major -> physics student, track -> course
13:00 * magnuse     did physics for fun in "college" too
13:00 * kidclamp    wonders which parts get converted
12:59 * ashimema    converts that to british english in his head.
12:59 ashimema      haha, cool
12:58 * kidclamp    was mostly just an Einstein fanboy
12:58 kidclamp      I took physics for fun in college - let me tell you, that pisses off physics majors - I didn't complete the track, but got a decent background once upon a time
12:57 * ashimema    wonders if kidclamp has a physics background
12:56 ashimema      would be surprised if she becomes a particle next time I see her
12:56 kidclamp      that's the problem with unit tests
12:56 eythian       a.k.a. you break it, you bought it.
12:55 ashimema      are you sure about that kidclamp.. last time I looked if you observe it you change it ;)
12:55 kidclamp      that's sorted then
12:55 kidclamp      cait has declared herself a wave, not a particle
12:53 tcohen        hi cait
12:53 cait          me waves
12:52 wahanui       kamelåså
12:52 tcohen        hi magnuse
12:52 magnuse       hiya NateC and tcohen
12:50 kidclamp      morning magnuse
12:50 magnuse       bonjour cait and kidclamp
12:39 magnuse       woohoo!
12:39 wahanui       well, friday is pizzaday
12:39 magnuse       friday?
12:34 eythian       i.e. is the ordering correct.
12:34 eythian       (then maybe something else depends on them or something.)
12:34 eythian       hmm. Speculating, but is your tree clean initially. Then I'd look into the patches, maybe there's something strange with them adding files and removing/renaming them.
12:30 oleonard      Why would I get "working tree files would be overwritten by merge" when those files shouldn't be untracked?
12:30 huginn_       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11897 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Needs Signoff , Stock Rotation for Koha
12:30 pastebot      "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Error when applying Bug 11897" (32 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/402
12:16 edveal        Happy Friday everyone!
12:14 eythian       hello oleopard
12:14 * oleonard    whispers hello
11:28 evantill      josef_moravec: it's ok with your modification thanks
11:17 evantill      josef_moravec: I will try
10:30 josef_moravec eythian: just a try ;) :)
10:27 eythian       josef_moravec: fast work :)
10:23 wahanui       it has been said that here is where I work
10:23 josef_moravec evantill: still here?
09:47 huginn_       04Bug 18548: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , running  koha-create --request-db without an instance name should abort
09:47 evantill      submitted https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18548
09:43 evantill      16.11.07
09:43 evantill      thanks a lot
09:42 eythian       apt-cache policy koha-common should tell you
09:42 evantill      where could I find koha version on my debian ?
09:40 evantill      +1 for example discourse.org provide an installation operation mode using docker. It's very practical
09:38 * eythian     wants to properly dockerise koha one day, with separate containers for each component.
09:38 eythian       see if it works :) but yeah, you'll need to give the instance name.
09:37 eythian       actually, it might be fine, but I'm not sure
09:37 eythian       I would avoid using -
09:37 evantill      I will open a bug. Thanks
09:37 evantill      changing my cmd to "koha-create --request-db what-ever-name" will not raise the error
09:36 evantill      ithat the probleme
09:36 evantill      thanks
09:31 eythian       (I'd suggest opening a bug for that if it's true: koha-create should abort if it's missing a name.)
09:30 eythian       I feel like you may not be specifying an instance name.
09:29 eythian       what is your full command line?
09:25 evantill      any advice please ?
09:20 evantill      getent: invalid option -- 'k'
09:20 evantill      runing 'koha-create --request-db' give me an error
09:19 evantill      using mysql on a second node
09:19 evantill      on a debian jeesie
09:19 evantill      trying to install it using docker
09:19 evantill      I am a newbie in koha and it's installation
09:18 wahanui       hey, evantill
09:18 evantill      hi
08:41 eythian       hi
08:31 wahanui       fridolin: what?
08:31 fridolin      wahanui: howareu
08:31 fridolin      hie tehre
08:11 mtj           'vagrant up --provision' seems to still fail for me, and needs to be re-run a few time, before success
08:07 mtj           ^ thats safer, and seems to work ok too
08:07 mtj           sshd: ALL
08:07 mtj           ALL: 192.168.50.10
08:05 pastebot      "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "vagrant up --provision" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/401
08:03 mtj           add 'ALL:ALL' to hosts.allow
07:58 BobB          still nothing
07:58 BobB          the permissions on the folder have been set as low as possible as a last ditch attempt
07:58 BobB          this has got me completely stumped
07:57 BobB          hey yeah mtj i did all of that
07:54 mtj           its possible you have some odd perms on /home/bob/Devbox/Koha... but unlikely
07:52 mtj           sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart
07:52 mtj           sudo service networking restart
07:51 mtj           did you update /etc/hosts.allow ?
07:51 mtj           ok
07:47 BobB          and nfs-kernel-server
07:47 BobB          i already installed it for him :/
07:47 BobB          hey mtj its dilan here
07:47 mtj           ^ youll need that package BobB
07:46 mtj           $ sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server
07:43 BobB          no luck mtj
07:25 mtj           the doco needs the nfs stuff as an pre vagrant step
07:23 * mtj         hit the same bug about 2 hours ago ... :)
07:23 mtj           s/;/:/
07:22 mtj           a brutal workaround for me was to add ALL;ALL to /etc/hosts.allow
07:22 BobB          thx mtj, found the section, will try it
07:21 mtj           https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox#hostsallow-on-debian-jessie
07:21 mtj           BobB: i think your issue is described toward the end..
07:20 mtj           https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
07:20 wahanui       well, permissions is most likely the problem
07:20 BobB          permissions?
07:19 BobB          mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.50.1:/home/bob/Devbox/Koha
07:19 BobB          stdin: is not a tty
07:19 BobB          Stderr from the command:
07:19 BobB          Stdout from the command:
07:19 BobB          mount -o 'vers=3,udp' 192.168.50.1:'/home/bob/Devbox/Koha' /home/vagrant/kohaclone
07:19 BobB          Vagrant assumes that this means the command failed!
07:19 BobB          The following SSH command responded with a non-zero exit status.
07:19 BobB          ==> jessie: Mounting NFS shared folders...
07:19 BobB          and getting this message:
07:19 BobB          trying to set up a dev box ...
07:18 BobB          hi folks
07:17 * magnuse     waves
06:53 wahanui       bonjour, alex_a
06:53 alex_a        bonjour
06:34 reiveune      hello
05:18 huginn_       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18541 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Patron card creator: Add a grid to support layout design
05:18 mveron        cait: Good morning... You might be interested in bug 18541 - Not yet ready, but it will help to design patron cards...
05:13 * mveron      normally gets up at 6 and reads the papers
05:11 BobB          ok, not too early
05:10 mveron        BobB: It's about 7 am... Coffeetime :-)
05:09 BobB          hi mveron - its early where you are :)
05:07 * mveron      waves
04:42 huginn_       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18545 minor, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Remove use of onclick from OPAC Cart
04:42 mveron        Koha never sleeps... Bug 18545... Thanks, aleisha
04:41 mveron        Good morning /  daytime #koha
03:21 wahanui       hey, wizzyrea
03:21 wizzyrea      hi
03:18 rangi         hi amitgupta
03:08 amitgupta     Hi rangi
03:08 amitgupta     hi all
00:37 * kidclamp    waves