Time  Nick          Message
23:08 mveron        Good night / daytime #koha
21:12 thd_          Brooke: An unrelated issue is that the security certificate for the subdomain hea.koha-community.org might not be configured correctly.
21:10 thd_          Brooke: The big issue is limiting direct writes to the database running the wiki to localhost.
21:08 thd_          Brooke: However, hea data might be collected somewhere intermediately and then updated on some wiki page with perhaps some polling function.
21:06 thd_          Brooke: Adding hea data directly to the wiki in a manner similar to the way in which it is being added to the website at https://hea.koha-community.org/ would be a security risk for the wiki database.
21:01 Brooke        bye bye
21:01 Joubu         have to run, bye #koha
21:00 * thd_        tries a different web browser.
21:00 thd_          I know I do not read it enough in the past three years when internet is working :)
21:00 thd_          Difficult to read enough when internet access is mostly down.
20:56 * Joubu       thinks that thd_ should read a bit more the Koha ML
20:56 thd_          Brooke: I think it is an SSH issue.
20:56 thd_          That URL does not resolve for me.
20:55 Brooke        yes
20:55 Brooke        but I'm very grateful for the disambiguation someone did to force the data to be nicer on Hea
20:55 thd_          Brooke: Is the URL https://hea.koha-community.org/ ?
20:54 Brooke        people seemed to indicate no don't bother on the list when I mentioned mapping and GIS
20:54 Brooke        I will think on if this is necessary at all
20:54 Joubu         Brooke: If you have examples of what you want, I can try & write script to daily generate something (csv/svg/...)
20:54 Brooke        though the visualisations hea is capable of is superior
20:54 cait          Brooke: it's just turn on prefs
20:53 cait          Brooke: hea is very low onw
20:53 thd_          Brooke: I have never had an outage of a month previously.
20:53 Brooke        anyway, the barrier to entry for contributing to the wiki is lower than hea
20:52 Brooke        yes, but other people do not necessarily have reliable service most of the time
20:52 Brooke        or there might be people that edit the wiki then not participate in hea, which is queer but possible
20:52 thd_          Brooke: I have had very reliable service for the past 2 years with minor interruptions.
20:52 Brooke        and those that are less fortunate in their connections might prefer to print the wiki (I know the horror, but this is so)
20:51 thd_          Brooke: Sadly I lost internet connection again.
20:51 Brooke        not everyone has service full time as thd proves
20:51 Brooke        I think it behooves us to have redundant data in this case
20:51 Brooke        no but I have a specific problem in mind
20:50 Joubu         Brooke: sorry still do not get it, do you have a specific example?
20:48 Brooke        what I worry about is folks not implementing hea or data not being mirrored
20:48 Brooke        and the wiki is not
20:48 Brooke        yes
20:48 indradg       thd: wow++
20:48 cait          hea is all automated?
20:48 cait          ?
20:48 Brooke        I hit things with sticks, but I know there are better ways
20:48 Brooke        or make little authorised value changes so a person isn't bothered by them
20:47 Brooke        or alert someone to changes
20:47 Brooke        I know we aren't wikipedia, but there are automated tools that can draw on data sets then leverage bots to create or manage pages
20:46 Joubu         Brooke: what do you mean?
20:46 Brooke        just got a nice update, too
20:46 Brooke        yeah Hea is very cool. go check it out
20:46 Brooke        I'd love to see flow between the two
20:46 wahanui       Hea is coming (see hea.koha-community.org)
20:46 thd           Hea?
20:46 Brooke        do you know an automated way to exchange information from Hea with the wiki?
20:45 thd           I was even disconnected twice very briefly during the very brief meeting.
20:44 thd           I really need multiple upstream connections.
20:44 thd           :)
20:44 Brooke        Yank infrastructure--
20:43 thd           indradg: A funny/scary moment of the sewer explosions near me a month ago was after several manhole covers had earlier exploded into the air another manhole cover exploded directly under a fire service vehicle.
20:42 * kidclamp    wanders off to start closing tabs and end his day
20:41 barton        kidclamp: that would be NateC.
20:41 Brooke        gotta pump em rookie ;)
20:41 barton        HA
20:41 kidclamp      heh 'No brakes!!!!!'
20:41 barton        ^^ what Brooke said.
20:40 Brooke        thanks for driving the bus
20:40 huginn_       Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_03_may_2017.2017-05-03-20.05.log.html
20:40 huginn_       Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_03_may_2017.2017-05-03-20.05.txt
20:40 huginn_       Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_03_may_2017.2017-05-03-20.05.html
20:40 huginn_       Meeting ended Wed May  3 20:40:41 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
20:40 kidclamp      #endmeeting
20:40 Joubu             0
20:40 thd           +1
20:40 kidclamp          1
20:40 kidclamp          2
20:40 kidclamp          3
20:40 kidclamp      last chance
20:39 kidclamp      #info Next meeting: Wednesday, June 7th, 2017 13 UTC
20:38 Brooke        great by me, that is not Election Day
20:38 cait          ok
20:38 kidclamp      June 7th - 13 UTC?
20:37 kidclamp      #topic Next meeting
20:37 Brooke        thanks for the clarification Nick
20:36 barton        nothing to do with KohaCon.
20:36 kidclamp      copy/pasta
20:36 kidclamp      I think maybe an agenda holdover
20:35 kidclamp      something NateC was involved with, I don't know details
20:35 barton        Brooke, it was the last item on the agenda.
20:34 Brooke        do you mean for KohaCon or project wide?
20:34 Brooke        can you flesh out the marketing etc comment please
20:34 kidclamp      nope
20:34 barton        Any notes from the marketing group?
20:34 kidclamp      or just set next meeting
20:34 kidclamp      so floor is open for final thoughts
20:34 barton        move on?
20:34 kidclamp      no updates on the marketing / etc
20:32 kidclamp      #info schnydzsch should send an email to lsits or update wiki
20:32 kidclamp      it seemed incomplete but we asked for him to update wiki and email oout to lists as well
20:31 kidclamp      schnydzsch posted an update into channel earleir today
20:31 kidclamp      #topic KohaCon
20:30 barton        ^^ I wish ;-)
20:30 wahanui       kidclamp: I forgot anything else
20:30 kidclamp      wahanui forget anything else
20:30 wahanui       i think anything else is just being crap
20:30 kidclamp      anything else?
20:30 kidclamp      #16.11 string freeze on 15th and release on 22nd
20:30 kidclamp      #info 17.05 feature slush is Friday, May 05
20:29 kidclamp      #info 17.05 feature slush if Friday, May 05
20:29 kidclamp      #info cait will push for 16.11  after 17.05 feature slusgh
20:29 cait          string freeze on 15th and release on 22nd
20:29 cait          will start pushing after feature flush
20:29 wahanui       barton: I forgot 16.11
20:29 barton        wahanui forget 16.11
20:29 cait          was focusing a bit on sign offs this week
20:29 cait          but according to schedule
20:29 cait          heh not quite next week
20:28 kidclamp      mtj, jajm? I think they are sleeping
20:28 wahanui       16.11 is coming out next week
20:28 kidclamp      cait: 16.11?
20:28 kidclamp      Kyle is out this week but will be working on things once he returns
20:28 Joubu         cait: heh, indeed, things like "responsibility", "motivation", etc.
20:27 kidclamp      #topic Update on releases:
20:27 huginn_       barton: I suck
20:27 barton        @ytpos++
20:27 kidclamp      [off] Joubu promises to be a benevolent dictator
20:26 barton        { and Tomás has himselff marked as 'Yes' in the meeting notes }
20:26 * cait        whispers he wants us to work... pf
20:26 cait          release_team_17.11++ Joubu++ :)
20:26 Joubu         hope you all read the proposal guys ;)
20:26 indradg       Joubu++
20:26 kidclamp      Joubu++
20:26 kidclamp      Huzzah! Congrats Joubu
20:25 huginn_       Yes (8): Joubu, cait, barton, kidclamp, indradg, mkuhn, thd, drojf
20:25 huginn_       Voted on "Should we elect all proposed roles for 17.11 as listed on the wiki and above?" Results are
20:25 kidclamp      #endvote
20:25 kidclamp      last call
20:25 mkuhn         #vote yes
20:24 indradg       #vote yes
20:24 drojf         #vote yes
20:24 thd           #vote yes
20:24 Joubu         #vote yes
20:24 cait          #vote yes
20:24 barton        #vote Yes
20:24 kidclamp      #vote Yes
20:23 huginn_       Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
20:23 huginn_       Begin voting on: Should we elect all proposed roles for 17.11 as listed on the wiki and above? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
20:23 kidclamp      #startvote Should we elect all proposed roles for 17.11 as listed on the wiki and above? Yes, No
20:23 barton        s/hos/his/
20:23 * barton      reves up hos voting engine...
20:23 * Joubu       votes for wahanui French president
20:23 kidclamp      Okay
20:23 kidclamp      Thomas Dukleth
20:23 kidclamp      Brooke
20:23 kidclamp      Wiki Curators (The more the merrier!)
20:22 kidclamp      Amit Gupta
20:22 kidclamp      Josef Moravec
20:22 kidclamp      Claire Gravely
20:22 kidclamp      Marc Véron (continuing)
20:22 kidclamp      Bug Wranglers (the more the merrier!) What does a Bug Wrangler do
20:22 kidclamp      Tomas Cohen Arazi
20:22 kidclamp      Continuous integration infrastructure maintainer (a.k.a. Jenkins)
20:22 kidclamp      Mirko Tietgen (continuing)
20:22 kidclamp      Packaging Manager
20:22 kidclamp      Tomas Cohen Arazi (continuing)
20:22 kidclamp      Julian Maurice (continuing)
20:22 kidclamp      Nick Clemens (continuing)
20:22 kidclamp      Alex Sassmannshausen (dipped my toe last cycle)
20:22 kidclamp      Martin Renvoize (continuing)
20:22 kidclamp      Marcel de Rooy (continuing)
20:22 kidclamp      Kyle Hall (continuing)
20:22 kidclamp      Brendan Gallagher
20:22 kidclamp      Quality Assurance (QA) Team
20:22 kidclamp      Indranil Das Gupta
20:22 kidclamp      Database Documentation Manager
20:22 wahanui       I'M EXCERCISING MY ROBOT RIGHT TO FREE DATA TRANSMISSION
20:22 kidclamp      shh wahanui
20:22 kidclamp      Katrin Fischer & Chris Cormack
20:22 kidclamp      Documentation Team
20:22 kidclamp      Bernardo González Kriegel (continuing)
20:22 wahanui       well, Translation Manager is proposed to be Frédéric Demians
20:22 kidclamp      Translation Manager
20:21 kidclamp      (16.05) Mason James (continuing)
20:21 kidclamp      (16.11) Katrin Fischer (continuing)
20:21 kidclamp      (17.05) Fridolin Somers
20:21 wahanui       Release Maintainers are Chris Cormack for 3.8
20:21 kidclamp      Release Maintainers
20:21 kidclamp      --
20:21 kidclamp      Martin Renvoize
20:21 kidclamp      Alex Sassmannshausen
20:21 kidclamp      RM Assistants:
20:21 kidclamp      --
20:21 kidclamp      Jonathan Druart
20:21 kidclamp      Release Manager:
20:20 kidclamp      okay, I will enter all the roles here for minutes, then we can vote slate
20:19 kidclamp      don't want to release without a new team in the wings
20:18 cait          the release is this month
20:18 thd           I actually thought that elections were next month.
20:18 thd           (more the merrier)
20:18 thd           I am adding my name along with Brookes for Wiki curator now. :)
20:17 Brooke        +1 for the slate
20:17 thd           Sorry that I have been without internet...
20:17 thd           Yes
20:17 kidclamp      I propose we can vote the whole list at once
20:16 kidclamp      I think there are no contested seats, any discussion?
20:16 indradg       heh
20:16 talljoy       barton is eager
20:16 barton        yea, yes, +1!
20:15 kidclamp      okay, we vote!
20:15 kidclamp      #topic Roles for 17.11 - Elections
20:14 cait          :)
20:14 cait          !
20:14 Brooke        No time is a good time for all. I think we should vote now, like Cait
20:14 cait          i stayed up1
20:14 Joubu         May 10th? :)
20:14 cait          why nto have it?
20:13 kidclamp      next up is elections - do we have enough participants or should we postpone? 13 UTC has been the more active time lately - we could push for a week?
20:12 kidclamp      halp! please!
20:12 kidclamp      #info there are 18 majors and 2 critical bugs needing attention
20:11 Joubu         filled with patches
20:11 Joubu         we have 18 majors and 2 criticals
20:11 kidclamp      cait++
20:10 kidclamp      #info GSBD for May 10th, bugs only edition
20:10 cait          thx :)
20:10 kidclamp      May 10th
20:10 wahanui       the date is circled ;)
20:10 cait          kidclamp: the date?
20:10 indradg       #info Indranil Das Gupta, L2C2 Technologies
20:10 barton        #info Barton Chittenden, BWS
20:09 indradg       #infor Indranil Das Gupta, L2C2 Technologies
20:09 kidclamp      anyone else?
20:09 kidclamp      #action kidclamp will send out something for GBSD
20:09 kidclamp      #info GBSD next week, wiki and emial to come today
20:09 * kidclamp    has fat fingers today
20:08 kidclamp      and will see if I can get ours runing
20:08 kidclamp      I plan to be about to help anyone with testing/sandboxes
20:08 kidclamp      I will send an email out and put up a wiki page today
20:08 kidclamp          5
20:08 kidclamp      Next week we will do a GBSD for bugs for 17.0
20:08 kidclamp      #topic Announcement
20:07 thd           #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
20:06 drojf         #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany
20:06 cait          #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
20:06 Joubu         #info Jonathan Druart
20:06 kidclamp      #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions
20:06 talljoy       #info Joy Nelson ByWater
20:05 thd           indrag: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/manhole-blasts-shatter-strand-bookstore-windows-union-squa-article-1.3014939
20:05 wahanui       #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
20:05 kidclamp      #topic Introductions
20:05 huginn_       The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_03_may_2017'
20:05 huginn_       Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
20:05 huginn_       Meeting started Wed May  3 20:05:46 2017 UTC.  The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:05 kidclamp      #startmeeting General IRC meeting 03 May 2017
20:04 indradg       wow @thd
20:04 kidclamp      starting in one minute
20:04 kidclamp      trying to ping everyone with a role :-)
20:04 cait          here
20:04 cait          oops
20:04 kidclamp      ashimema, cait , mtj, rangi, jajm, Brooke
20:02 wahanui       meeting is in two days, i thought was tomorrow. plenty of time then
20:02 talljoy       meeting?
20:01 thd           A sewer fire and explosion may have been the cause of mostly no internet for me for a month.
20:00 * Joubu       is not far
20:00 * indradg|afk waves back
20:00 thd           If and only if my internet does not fail.
20:00 kidclamp      everyone ready for a meeting?
20:00 * kidclamp    waves
18:35 Joubu         "already"? :p
18:29 oleonard      Yes but not the style update
18:29 tcohen        is the onboarding stuff pushed already?
17:51 Joubu         I remember a vertical vs horizontal comparison, but the screenshot shows what I expected
17:50 Joubu         oleonard: I think it is ok like that
17:20 huginn_       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18007 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Interface updates to notices and notice previews
17:20 oleonard      Joubu: Do you remember, was there an issue with Bug 18007 which you were waiting for me to fix? Or is it simply waiting for signoff?
16:44 mtj           easy fix, thanx! :0)
16:43 Joubu         mtj: if I change the number of tests for HoldsQueue.t to 43, it's green
16:42 Joubu         mtj: ^
16:42 pastebot      "Joubu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "test results for 16.05.x" (27 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/395
16:18 josef_moravec bye #koha
16:05 huginn_       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18008 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Needs Signoff , Use templates for generating pagination in intranet
16:05 josef_moravec somebody interested in testing bug 18008 ? ;)
16:04 josef_moravec oleonard: not at all ;)
15:57 oleonard      Thanks josef_moravec!
15:25 eythian       later :)
15:25 schnydszch    bye and good night to all!
15:24 schnydszch    hi eythian and all! here's the pastebin link: https://pastebin.com/XXifgfHW
15:24 reiveune      bye
15:11 eythian       so really, at the least you ought to pastebin it :)
15:11 eythian       schnydszch: I think there is content missing
15:10 schnydszch    ..have one. Well that sums up, updates on KohaCon2017. need to get a rest guys. thanks oleonard! and kidclamp i'm afraid i might mess up the wiki with weary eyes. Cheers and good night! :)
15:10 eythian       schnydszch: beware the network doesn't kick you out for excess flood, best to wiki things like that and link them
15:06 schnydszch    ..in the list and update the K-C on this, the language of the radio program will be Filipino-English, so those interested in listening to the podcast, please bear with us. 4.We're already done with the program, we're just trying to figure out to make it like the program done with Greece, was it a Wordpress plugin? so please contact us regarding this. In any rate, program will be out this week. 5) One major sponsor not yet filled up so we'd appreciate i
15:03 kidclamp      schnydszch, can you add these notes to the agenda page on the wiki?
15:02 schnydszch    ..so the estimate is right, 50 foreign, 200 local. We want to have other local institutions the chance to attend so we're trying to work on that. 250 is the limit for the venue, so we're working doubly on this. 3) This May 17 12PM-1PM PST, KohaCon2017 will be featured in a local radio program created by the University of the Philippines Main Library which is termed as libradio, link is here: http://dzup.org/libradio but that will still be on May 17. We
14:59 marcelr       have to go; bye #koha
14:59 tcohen        hm
14:59 tcohen        ah, I missed the other xslts
14:59 marcelr       18098
14:59 marcelr       see the bug report please
14:58 tcohen        marcelr: what?
14:58 oleonard      Great registration numbers schnydszch!
14:58 schnydszch    Dear all, This is Eugene Espinoza, one of the organizers for KohaCon2017, I might not make it to the meeting later which is 4 A.M. in our local time, and it's already 11P.M. So I'm sending the updates for KohaCon2017: 1) We'd like to ask that the website for kohacon2017 be added in the kohacon links in the koha community website; 2) There are now 235 pre-registered participants for the said Conference, 45 are foreign participants..
14:56 mtj           i applied both patches, it still fails for me
14:44 Joubu         I get the same failure when I just apply the first patch
14:44 Joubu         mtj: did you apply the 2 patches or just the tests?
14:37 Joubu         mtj: you could ask someone else to confirm if you want
14:37 huginn_       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18098 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add an index with the count of not onloan items
14:37 marcelr       you only included one biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl on bug 18098
14:36 marcelr       tcohen around
14:35 mtj           ill be happy to confirm the tests on jenkins, when it comes up
14:33 * mtj         has no vagrant setup atm (long story)
14:32 mtj           thanks Joubu, i still get a failling test for 18094 after your patches - but its poss my current dev setup
14:25 Joubu         done
14:23 Joubu         mtj: do you want me to upload my 16.05 version?
14:22 Joubu         mtj: the tests pass for me
14:17 mtj           i'll update the bug(s)
14:16 mtj           hi joubu, failing tests ^
14:15 huginn_       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
14:15 Joubu         @later tell mtj 18094 is marked as pushed to 16.05.x, but has been reverted (why?)
14:13 huginn_       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
14:13 Joubu         @later tell mtj 17146 is marked as pushed to 16.05.x, but is not
14:04 huginn_       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
14:04 Joubu         @later tell jajm mtj pushed a lot of security patches to 16.05. Since the next 3.22 will be the last, it may be great to have all of them into 3.22.x as well
13:59 Joubu         jajm: mtj pushed a lot of security patches to 16.05. Since the next 3.22 will be the last, it may be great to have all of them into 3.22.x as well
13:48 mveron        cait: Yes, it is a little bit tricky to figure things out...
13:47 tcohen        hi marcelr
13:47 marcelr       hi tcohen
13:44 tcohen        morning
13:42 cait          we haven't used that module much at all... it's a bit mysterious
13:42 cait          thx
13:29 * mveron      is about to comment on the bug...
13:29 mveron        cait: That's OK. Setting it to back shuffles data for multi column layouts (not used for duplex print).
13:25 cait          mveron: was wondering about one of the settings in the pdf - both llayouts read front?
13:24 cait          did you see mycomment?
13:24 cait          thx!
13:22 huginn_       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17942 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Update style of the web installer with Bootstrap 3
13:22 oleonard      Joubu I hope my follow-up sufficiently addresses your concerns about Bug 17942
13:12 huginn_       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18465 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Patron card creator: Print on duplex card printer
13:12 mveron        cait: Bug 18465 - I made screenshots with settings and expected result
13:11 mveron        Hi #koha
13:06 cait          marcelr++
13:06 alex_a        thx for your patience marcelr :)
13:05 marcelr       would be nice if we could finish this qa battle..
13:05 marcelr       i now have two minor issues, will submit them on the report. so please be prepared to respond :)
13:04 huginn_       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12063 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , Change date calculation for reserve expiration to skip all holidays
13:04 marcelr       hi alex_a; i am still working on bug 12063
13:04 alex_a        marcelr: yep
13:04 marcelr       alex_a around ?
12:09 cait          bgkriegel++ too
12:08 magnuse       hooray for the community!
12:06 fridolin      Joubu: nice to see you at comand capt'ain
12:05 cait          now we got a team to elect :)
12:05 cait          but you were the last missing piece
12:05 fridolin      yep its not easy
12:05 cait          i am not always early now...
12:04 cait          push early... I will walk in your foot steps .)
12:04 fridolin      better than last time ;)
12:04 fridolin      i'll do my best for this job
12:03 cait          fridolin++ :)
12:01 fridolin      yep RMt ;)
12:01 magnuse       RMaint, then ;-)
12:01 fridolin      thanks
12:01 * oleonard    votes for fridolin
12:01 magnuse       yay!
12:01 fridolin      https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_17.11
12:00 * fridolin    applying for RM 17.05
11:59 meliss        morning jzairo
11:58 jzairo        morning kellym meliss
11:56 eythian       hi oleopard
11:55 oleonard      Hi all
11:46 marcelr       o/
11:46 eythian       hi marcelr
11:46 marcelr       hi #koha
11:45 eythian       https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8140.txt <-- this is quite relevant for anyone involved in taxonomies and cataloguing.
09:38 magnuse       hiya eythian
09:20 eythian       hi
07:29 NPUA          also "Records exported: 100878"
07:28 NPUA          it says now"REINDEXING zebra"
07:28 NPUA          Is this a problem or they just won't come up in search?
07:28 NPUA          it gave this message for some entries
07:27 NPUA          Record length of 237457 is larger than the MARC spec allows (99999 bytes). at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/File/USMARC.pm line 314
07:22 gaetan_B      hello
07:20 cait          trying to frot he best way to search for corporate identity in that order
07:20 * magnuse     waves
07:20 cait          hm is there no kw,phr?
07:18 NPUA          and its loading under it, but we have tried this before
07:17 NPUA          its says records exported 18
07:17 josef_moravec NPUA: so you'll see ;)
07:17 NPUA          by working I mean its rebuilding
07:16 NPUA          I have run this command and its working now
07:16 NPUA          ./rebuild_zebra.pl  -b   -z -v
07:14 josef_moravec you could add indexdata repository for installing newer zebra
07:13 NPUA          it could be
07:13 NPUA          :D
07:12 josef_moravec NPUA: Zebra 2.0.44 is almost 8 years old, that could be problem
07:11 josef_moravec NPUA: yes, it is just optional
07:10 NPUA          but it shows as optional
07:09 NPUA          HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench (0.73) shows not installed
07:09 cait          hi josef_moravec :) hi #koha
07:09 NPUA          Zebra 2.0.44
07:08 josef_moravec Hello cait
07:08 josef_moravec NPUA: also, which version of Zebra you have installed?
07:07 josef_moravec NPUA: another thing: try to go to About -> Perl modules page and System information page to check you have everything what you need
07:07 NPUA          which is the most important ))
07:07 NPUA          but we have resolved all the problems besides search indexing
07:06 NPUA          yes we did!
07:06 josef_moravec NPUA: But you probably encounter some other problems...
07:05 josef_moravec NPUA: try to check this: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Zebra
07:05 josef_moravec NPUA: recheck if you installed things around zebra like they should be
07:04 * sophie_m    waves
07:04 NPUA          but for now, can You offer me any solution?
07:03 NPUA          Yes I know, I'm doing my best to make them understand that the old version is not secure anymore, above anything else
07:02 BobB          NPUA that is going to be an ongoing problem for you.  What country are you in?  You should urge your national library to upgrade Ubuntu to the currently supported version
06:58 NPUA          I also understand that the version of Ubuntu is old, but unfortunately its not on our hands ((
06:57 NPUA          and since we need to connect to their server we had to try this way ))
06:57 NPUA          I understand, but we had to use this one as this was the "recommended" way by the national library net admin
06:56 josef_moravec Also Ubuntu 12.04 is pretty old, you should use 16.04 or Debian Jessie
06:56 josef_moravec NPUA: the recomended way of installing Koha is using packages: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
06:55 tt            Connection closed by foreign host.
06:55 tt            Login OK.  Initiating SIP and hangs there
06:53 mtj           tt,  https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_SIP2_server_setup#Testing_with_Telnet
06:52 NPUA          https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_tarball
06:52 NPUA          we used this link
06:51 josef_moravec NPUA: eg. which guide did you use?
06:50 josef_moravec NPUA: how did you install Koha?
06:50 josef_moravec NPUA: Ubuntu can use debian packages too ;)
06:50 tt            because he is denying tht
06:50 NPUA          ubuntu 12.04*
06:50 tt            and inform our network admin guy
06:50 NPUA          no its an ubintu
06:49 josef_moravec NPUA: if you installed using debian packages of course
06:49 tt            hw can we check that
06:49 josef_moravec NPUA: you can list created instances by koha-list
06:49 mtj           tt: perhaps your network is slow? .. have you checked?
06:48 josef_moravec NPUA: the name of your instance as you create it with koha-create
06:48 mtj           plack speeds up Koha, it should also speed up SIP too
06:48 tt            hw to figure out tht
06:48 tt            is then the issue at our end of network
06:48 tt            even when we say telnet ip 8023 it takes time to connect to sip server
06:47 NPUA          what should I put in <instancename>?
06:47 tt            we just configured sip2 but it takes time to checkout/checkin books
06:47 tt            do we need to use both
06:47 NPUA          we are using 3.22
06:47 mtj           tt:  we use Koha with SIP and plack on 16.5.x, with no problems
06:45 wahanui       hola, reiveune
06:45 reiveune      hello
06:45 tt            i also need to knw whether plack works fine better than sip2
06:44 josef_moravec NPUA: also, which version of Koha are you using?
06:43 josef_moravec if you use -v parametr, you should see verbose output - you see how many records are indexed and eventually the problems with indexing
06:42 NPUA          we tried that and it did not help
06:41 josef_moravec koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f <instancename>
06:41 josef_moravec try to reindex all manually by running:
06:41 josef_moravec if the links are ok and go to records
06:40 josef_moravec if you go to batch of import, there should be link to imported record - last column of that table
06:40 NPUA          thats the its been done
06:39 josef_moravec first you just stage, and second import
06:39 josef_moravec steps
06:39 josef_moravec it has 2
06:39 NPUA          yes
06:39 josef_moravec how do you made import? By import tool in staff client?
06:39 NPUA          is there an issue with zebra?
06:39 NPUA          Can You tell me where to look?
06:38 wahanui       it has been said that looks like is been busted forever, i reckon wiz
06:38 josef_moravec NPUA: looks like
06:38 NPUA          is there an indexing problem?
06:38 NPUA          we have uploaded books into the database, but they do not show up when searching for any of them
06:37 NPUA          :)
06:37 josef_moravec NPUA: try to ask and you'll see ;)
06:37 oha           o/
06:32 NPUA          Can anyone help me?
06:32 NPUA          Hello, I have a problem with config
06:31 tt            is it
06:30 tt            plack works better than sip
06:29 tt            no we are trying sip only
06:28 magnuse       hm, i'm not sure
06:28 magnuse       or maybe sip is not affected by plack?
06:28 magnuse       tt: have you tried plack?
06:24 * magnuse     waves
06:23 tt            is there any way to sort it out
06:23 tt            but our SIP connection is slow hence it takes time to issue/return books
06:23 tt            we are using java rfid program for issue/return using SIP
06:08 josef_moravec I would use something like $('.modal').on('hidden.bs.modal', function (e) { $("#barcode").focus(); });
06:05 josef_moravec alexbuckley: but I am not sure it will work... after closing modal...
06:02 alex_a        bonjour
05:58 josef_moravec alexbuckley_: as we use HTML5 doctype, I think it's OK
05:53 alexbuckley_  ^josef_moravec
05:45 huginn_       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18438 major, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Failed QA , Check in: Modal about holds hides important check in messages
05:45 alexbuckley_  hi josef re. bug 18438 would you be happy with the use of the autofocus html attribute on the barcode checkin input instead of the onclick event?
05:42 sameee        how's it going?
05:42 sameee        hello!
05:38 josef_moravec morning #koha
04:32 ibeardslee    sometimes monologuing is the only way to have a decent conversation with someone
04:13 wizzyrea      I'm monologuing! YAY ME
04:12 wizzyrea      well, I guess it's good for users too. since they won't have to go back and edit 10 item types to not have the charge, if they start with the default ones.
04:12 wizzyrea      only good for devs tho ;)
04:12 wizzyrea      so annoying.
04:12 wizzyrea      also, should get rid of the rental charge on all default item types, and make an example one of "rental item" that actually has it.
03:18 wizzyrea      to put whatever they please in it.
03:18 wizzyrea      that turns up in that menu
03:18 wizzyrea      but what if they could just make a notice of type slip
03:18 wizzyrea      which totally works
03:18 wizzyrea      so we repurposed the quick slip to print addresses
03:18 wizzyrea      but they do print address labels very often
03:17 wizzyrea      we have a library that never prints quick slips
03:17 wizzyrea      for example
03:17 wizzyrea      requires more thinking I think. But I do like the idea of being able to add custom slips
03:17 wizzyrea      idk I'm not sure
03:17 aleisha       could work!
03:17 aleisha       i get it
03:16 wizzyrea      it could work I guess.
03:16 wizzyrea      if you return things from the checkout page
03:16 wizzyrea      those turn up in slightly different places but like
03:16 wizzyrea      and "print a slip on returns"
03:15 wizzyrea      so like, there are current bugs for "make a slip for printing fines"
03:15 wizzyrea      were in the print slip menu on circulation
03:15 wizzyrea      what if we made a type of notice that was just slip (not circulation) and whatever notices you had listed as a slip
03:15 aleisha       do tell
03:15 wizzyrea      not really I guess.
03:15 wizzyrea      well kind of an insane idea
03:14 wizzyrea      I just had an insane idea
02:38 mtj           thanks, ill try to catch tcohen next
01:48 wizzyrea      maybe rangi, more likely tcohen
01:47 mtj           hi wizzyrea, do you know someone at catalyst who can fix this... -> https://jenkins.koha-community.org/computer/Debian_8/
01:34 BobB          soonish
01:33 wizzyrea      :D
01:33 wizzyrea      I'm sure there are copious amounts of it (not)
01:33 BobB          i'll follow that up in my spare time :)
01:32 wizzyrea      not assets like actual money
01:32 wizzyrea      thanks wahanui
01:32 wahanui       domains are cheap.
01:32 wizzyrea      and domains.
01:32 wizzyrea      assets like trademarks
01:32 wizzyrea      well there are complications (rangi will know more) with the trust and getting money. I guess it only holds assets now.
01:31 BobB          it ran into the usual 'no-one has consistent time' conundrum
01:31 BobB          hmmm, we tried to get a fundraising committee up last year, should try again
01:31 wizzyrea      (until such time as someone provides a new link and there is a plan for where the money goes)
01:30 wizzyrea      so it's gone.
01:30 wizzyrea      an nowhere for the money to go
01:30 wizzyrea      it was broken.
01:30 wizzyrea      yep
01:30 BobB          interesting irma, wizzyrea, the donate button seems to be gone from https://koha-community.org/
01:26 wizzyrea      maybe aleisha lol. (jk aleisha, I"m not really volunteering you for that...)
01:25 wizzyrea      idk anything about java tho
01:25 wizzyrea      and it looks like he's maybe not maintaining it anymore. Maybe time to fork :P
01:24 wizzyrea      oh gosh it's in svn.
01:21 wizzyrea      possibly better would be to provide a patch to the schemaspy author to fix the perceived problem :)
01:21 irma          no problem. just good to know.
01:20 wizzyrea      possibly rangi can turn off the donate link but that seems rather rude.
01:19 wizzyrea      I don't think that's how it works.
01:19 irma          thanks wizzyrea
01:19 irma          ah ... would be good to have some Koha connection on that page and clarification
01:19 wizzyrea      has nothing to do with koha, only to do with the tools that we use to create that content.
01:18 wizzyrea      the software that generates the schemas.
01:18 wizzyrea      I think that's the donate to the guy who maintains schema spy
01:17 irma          I have just noticed the Donate link here seems strange http://schema.koha-community.org/16_05/index.html
01:16 irma          good morning #koha
00:56 mtj           ive tested 18124 on 16.5.x and cant seem to trigger the bug, so i think we are good :0)
00:18 * Francesca   waves
00:10 mtj           any bugzilla admins about, to add a 'rel_16_05_candidate' keyword please?