Time  Nick         Message
00:21 kidclamp     @later tell tcohen ping me about the onloan index stuff please
00:21 huginn`      kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
00:44 * dcook      waves to kidclamp
00:44 dcook        Just responding to the listserv email
00:45 kidclamp     awesome!
00:45 wahanui      That'll be €1 for the awesome jar, kidclamp
00:45 kidclamp     awesome awesome awesome awesome!
00:45 kidclamp     heh, I can circumvent the fine by being extra enthusiastic
00:45 dcook        hehe
04:58 * magnuse    waves
04:58 * dcook      waves
06:37 alex_a       bonjour
06:46 reiveune     hello
06:46 wahanui      bonjour, reiveune
07:06 fridolin     hie tehre
07:20 gaetan_B     hello
07:41 * magnuse    waves to the french people
07:41 magnuse      today is half a workday in norway, and then we have 3 whole days off - first day back at work is tuesday :-)
07:44 magnuse      @later tell atheia i get 404s for /intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/jquery/plugins/jquery.checkboxes.min.js and intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/jquery/plugins/jquery.tablesorter.min.js on /cgi-bin/koha/ill/ill-requests.pl
07:44 huginn`      magnuse: The operation succeeded.
07:45 magnuse      @later tell atheia there are some issues around translatability in the ill module, i think. e.g. the names in the status_graph
07:45 huginn`      magnuse: The operation succeeded.
07:47 magnuse      @later tell atheia would it make sense, on /cgi-bin/koha/ill/ill-requests.pl, to have "manage request" be a dropdown of available actions, instead of a link to the details page, that has the actions? save some clicks
07:47 huginn`      magnuse: The operation succeeded.
09:40 * cait       waves
09:41 * kidclamp   waves
09:46 vfernandes   hi #koha
09:52 vfernandes   it's possible to force the authentication for one user? I want to create a .pl script that authenticates (create a session) the user using only an email
09:53 vfernandes   there is any method on C4::Auth to create the session?
09:59 paul_p       magnuse hi. How would you translate "Fjernlån og innlån" ? gtrans don't know "Fjernlan" :(
09:59 magnuse      fjernlån = ill
10:00 magnuse      i think "innlån" is like transfer, a loan from another library within the same koha instance
10:01 magnuse      paul_p: i'm off for easter holiday now. i will reply to email if you have other questions
10:02 magnuse      have fun #koha, see you on tuesday!
10:02 paul_p       matts thanks. Will share a translated google doc with my comments soon !
11:25 ashimema     Joubu about yet?
11:25 marcelr      hi #koha
11:26 ashimema     @latter tell Joubu we've fallen at the first hurdle testing bug 18403, seems it doesn't like a fresh install.. shout when you're about and I'll give you the errors
11:26 huginn`      ashimema: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
11:26 ashimema     @later tell Joubu we've fallen at the first hurdle testing bug 18403, seems it doesn't like a fresh install.. shout when you're about and I'll give you the errors
11:26 huginn`      ashimema: The operation succeeded.
11:27 cait         @wunder Konstanz
11:27 huginn`      cait: Error: No such location could be found.
11:31 ashimema     is it just historical that we've never insisted on a proper user being created at install time?
11:31 ashimema     or is there a reason against it?
12:04 oleonard     Oh yay another dev meeting I'll miss. Not that I've been much of a dev lately.
12:08 eythian      hi
12:25 oleonard     Did I already ++ Bug 15705?
12:25 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15705 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Notify the user on auto renewing
12:25 oleonard     Bug 15705++
12:25 oleonard     Want it.
12:26 cait         :)
12:48 * ashimema   would love a qa on that one too oleonard
12:48 ashimema     we tested the c**p out of it.. :)
14:08 mrkastan     hi #koha
14:52 kastan       hey guys, I know there is an article about running koha on RHEL, but do you have any personal experience with it?
14:54 Joubu        kastan: Hi! What is the article you are talking about?
14:56 kastan       https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Redhat_Enterprise_6
15:00 Joubu        I am not a redhat user but version 6 is quite old, right? :)
15:01 reiveune     bye
15:01 Joubu        There is a guy that maintain rpms iirc
15:02 Joubu        http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2016-September/043142.html
15:02 kastan       well our enterprise server runs 6.6...
16:57 oleonard     I don't suppose there is a way to pass URL parameters to addbiblio.pl in order to pre-populate some of the fields.
16:59 oleonard     I guess what I really need is an authenticated API to pass data directly into the catalog :|
16:59 oleonard     Someone should work on that.
18:43 Joubu        khall: Hi! Take a look at bug 18276 comment 19 please.
18:43 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18276 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Koha::Biblio - Remove GetBiblioFromItemNumber
18:44 khall        Joubu: will do!
18:44 Joubu        thx
18:56 CrispyBran   Anyone know how to use https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5670?  No documentation.  Test notes don't give much detail.
18:56 huginn`      04Bug 5670: new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Pushed to Master , Housebound Readers Module
19:00 kidclamp     hi all!  meeting time! just giving a heads up and will start in a few
19:00 Matt_S       Hello
19:02 kidclamp     #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 12 April 2017
19:02 huginn`      Meeting started Wed Apr 12 19:02:56 2017 UTC.  The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:02 huginn`      Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
19:02 huginn`      The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_12_april_2017'
19:03 kidclamp     #topic Introductions
19:03 wahanui      #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
19:03 kidclamp     #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions
19:03 mveron       Hi # koha
19:03 kidclamp     meeting mveron?
19:03 mveron       #info Marc Véron, Koha Support Schweiz, www.koha-support.ch
19:03 barton       #info Barton Chittenden, BWS, Louisville KY, USA
19:04 AdamB        #info Adam Brooks, ByWater Solutions
19:04 kidclamp     meeting ashimema Joubu cait?
19:05 CrispyBran   #info Christopher Brannon, Cooperative Information Network/Coeur d'Alene Public Library, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho
19:05 bag          #info bag brendan gallagher bywater
19:06 kidclamp     looks to be a light meeting :-)
19:06 kidclamp     #topic Announcements
19:06 kidclamp     anyone?
19:06 wahanui      Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
19:08 kidclamp     well - khall is gone for the day, cait mtj juliam are not here so release updates are lacking
19:08 cait         sorry on phone
19:08 cait         everything will be on time
19:08 cait         string freeze on 15th, release on 22nd
19:08 kidclamp     #topic Update from Release maintainers
19:09 kidclamp     info 16.11.x string freeze on 15th, release on 22nd
19:09 Joubu        (sorry not around)
19:09 kidclamp     #topic Updates from the QA team
19:09 kidclamp     no worries Joubu
19:10 kidclamp     We have a good amoutn of patches in the queue and NSO queue is growing
19:10 kidclamp     Everyone should read Joubu's email and encourage more involvement
19:11 kidclamp     #info joubu sent  What's on in koha-devel #11, please read and encourage involvement
19:12 kidclamp     any one else have bugs to highlight?
19:12 kidclamp     #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...)
19:12 kidclamp     I just had two things to mention
19:12 kidclamp     #topic Elasticsearch status
19:13 kidclamp     There are a number of open bugs, I am testing what I can and submitting patches
19:13 kidclamp     We need more testers to help us identify what needs to be improved and to help keep patches moving
19:13 kidclamp     Kohadevbox installs ES and makes it very easy to test it out
19:13 kidclamp     I will send an email with more specific bug numbers asap
19:14 kidclamp     #info ES needs testers and patchers, talk to kidclamp if you have questions
19:14 kidclamp     comments?
19:14 wahanui      comments are turned on
19:15 kidclamp     #topic Noisy logs
19:15 CrispyBran   When you send out that e-mail, can you include specifics to ES use in kohadevbox?
19:15 kidclamp     CrispyBran, sure, kohadevbox instructions should include it too but wil highlight
19:16 kidclamp     We have notices lots of noisy warns in production on value comparison with uninitialized values
19:16 kidclamp     bug 18400 is an example
19:16 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18400 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Noisy warns in opac-search.pl during itemtype sorting
19:16 kidclamp     these may be data related but are causing huge numbers of errors in logs
19:17 kidclamp     will bring this up at next meeting or in lists
19:17 kidclamp     Anyone else have announcements?
19:17 cait         kidclamp: about ES - is there any current documentaion/overview right now?
19:17 cait         i think it would help
19:17 cait         sorry, just reading back
19:18 kidclamp     docs on how to use? or what is to be expected?
19:18 cait         what works/is exepcted
19:18 cait         to wor
19:18 cait         k
19:18 kidclamp     :-)
19:19 kidclamp     basically most things should work - otherwise search bugzilla for 'elastic' and those thigns might now
19:19 cait         hm ok
19:19 kidclamp     bug 18318
19:19 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18318 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Unicode support for Elasticsearch
19:20 kidclamp     ES is different from zebra, so some things are learning
19:20 kidclamp     partial terms don't find things, you must add a '*'
19:20 kidclamp     bug 18374
19:20 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18374 major, P3, ---, nick, Failed QA , Respect QueryAutoTruncate syspref in Elasticsearch
19:20 kidclamp     but we need to decide if we want to try and auto truncate, or train suers
19:20 kidclamp     users
19:21 kidclamp     but testers are needed to tell us what they expect and it doesn't do
19:22 kidclamp     unicode support is big and necessary
19:23 kidclamp     I am trying to get an organized chain of thought together to send out cait
19:23 kidclamp     instead of just me shouting things :-)
19:24 barton       kidclamp: what's not working in respect to unicode in elastic?
19:24 kidclamp     currently all characters must be exactly searched for
19:25 kidclamp     there are no equivalencies between accented and unaccented characters
19:25 barton       gotcha.
19:25 kidclamp     so pokemon <> pokémon
19:26 kidclamp     no coding guidelines on agenda, so I think we just have to set next meeting (and hope is a better time for all)
19:26 kidclamp     :-D
19:26 eythian      I'm somewhat sure that can be defined, but I've never looked at it.
19:27 kidclamp     I changed 18318 to NSO - there is a patch there - basically makes it use the unicode plugin and analyzers
19:28 kidclamp     Next meeting: April 26th
19:28 kidclamp     13 UTC
19:28 kidclamp     any objections?
19:29 barton       real quick, should we talk about the database update that was hanging?
19:29 barton       ^^ kidclamp.
19:29 kidclamp     the floor is yours barton
19:31 barton       larryb was running upgrades from 3.22, there's a database update to add itemtypes to statistics where type='return'.
19:32 barton       ... this ended up taking 12 hours on one of our sites.
19:33 kidclamp     bug 14598
19:33 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14598 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , itemtype is not set on statistics by C4::Circulation::AddReturn
19:33 kidclamp     the db update to 'guess' the type in statistics is panifully slow on large statistics tables
19:33 barton       kidclamp: do you know if larryb filed a bug about the upgrade itself?
19:33 kidclamp     I do not
19:33 bag          usually that doesn’t happen barbara
19:34 bag          ha! barton
19:34 bag          auto-tab fail :)
19:34 kidclamp     #info bug 14598 DB update can be very slow/problematic in production sites with large statistics tables
19:34 kidclamp     I would say file a bug and announce to lists barton
19:34 barton       will do kidclamp.
19:35 kidclamp     #info Next Meeting: 26 April, 2017, 13 UTC
19:35 kidclamp     last chance anyone :-)
19:35 barton       it caused enough consternation that I figured that is deserved to be more widely known ;-)
19:35 kidclamp     barton++
19:35 kidclamp     #endmeeting
19:35 huginn`      Meeting ended Wed Apr 12 19:35:54 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
19:35 huginn`      Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_12_april_2017.2017-04-12-19.02.html
19:35 huginn`      Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_12_april_2017.2017-04-12-19.02.txt
19:35 huginn`      Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_12_april_2017.2017-04-12-19.02.log.html
19:36 cait         kidclamp++
19:36 kidclamp     thanks all
19:36 mveron       kidclamp++
19:37 * CrispyBran needs and infusion of bacon
21:04 mveron       Let's call it a long Koha-Sign-off-day, good night (daytime) everybody...