Time Nick Message 03:15 dcook Interesting... both C4::Calendar and Koha::Calendar deal with single holidays.. 06:25 reiveune hello 06:37 * ashimema wonders why so many people seem to want t bake their own when it comes to SSO. 06:39 dcook Depends on the client, I gues? 06:39 * dcook doesn't really understand it either 06:52 alex_a bonjour 07:03 fridolin hie there 07:09 dilan hey does anyone know if playing media from external links in koha uses the system resources of your koha server? 07:30 gaetan_B hello 08:20 mveron Hi #koha 08:20 mveron @wunder Allschwil 08:20 huginn` mveron: Error: No such location could be found. 08:20 mveron @wunder Nowhereland 08:20 huginn` mveron: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found 08:20 mveron :-) 08:21 * mveron Looks out of the window, oh, it's sunny... 08:53 * magnuse waves 08:55 * mveron waves 09:22 * LibraryClaire waves 09:34 mrkastan hi there 09:36 mrkastan is there a way of having multiple branches with separate patrons and preferences OR multiple instances with shared biblio database? 09:38 kidclamp there is an 'independent branches' setting mrkastan but prefs are still shared 09:38 kidclamp you can override sysprefs if you have a virtualhost for each branch 09:41 mrkastan I mean the idea is Shared catalogue for libraries all over our country. From the smallest in schools or hospitals to regional. So every library has different policy but catalogue should be searchable all at once 09:42 mrkastan I am really new to Koha, just considering it as possible solution 09:44 mrkastan The independent branches says (at leat at wiki), that everything is shared (even patrons) 09:52 kidclamp that would be correct then likely. I would try sending something out to the lists mrkastan, I don't know if koha works as you want out of the box, but there might be solutions 09:52 kidclamp lists? 09:52 wahanui try 'listserv', kidclamp 09:53 kidclamp listserv? 09:53 wahanui try 'mailing list', kidclamp 09:53 kidclamp mailing list? 09:53 wahanui mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 09:53 kidclamp 3 tries, every time 09:57 mrkastan :D okay thanks kidclamp. I know that Koha miss more or less functionality I need but I am trying to make 'case study'. Finding out which ILS would be best to work with. 10:23 mveron Lunchtime... 10:23 wahanui i think lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting 11:32 marcelr hi #koha 11:39 magnuse hiya marcelr and oleonard 11:39 * oleonard waves 11:40 marcelr magnuse! oleonard! 11:40 * LibraryClaire waves 11:40 magnuse BüchereiKlara! 11:40 marcelr LibraryClaire! 11:40 wahanui hmmm... libraryclaire is the monster under my bed 11:40 magnuse poor wahanui 11:40 wahanui That's so condescending, magnuse 11:41 magnuse oops, sorry about that 11:41 marcelr wahanui is a monster 11:41 LibraryClaire :D 11:41 marcelr what is wahanui? 11:41 wahanui wahanui couldn't be bothered to show up 11:41 * magnuse takes bug 12836 for a spin in real life 11:41 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12836 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , SRU Explain file needs to be rewritten 11:53 eythian hi 11:59 magnuse @wunder enbo 11:59 huginn` magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 12:15 mveron Hi again #koha 12:16 magnuse hiya mveron 12:17 mveron hiya magnuse 12:31 marcelr hi mveron 12:31 mveron hi marcelr 14:06 thd I missed the meeting by 1 hour? 14:07 thd The computer I checked was in the wrong time zone? 14:09 thd No, should there not be a meeting now? 14:09 schnydszch meeting has not started yet, right? 14:09 thd Apparently not. 14:10 thd Was there a reminder to the mailing list? 14:11 * andreashm waves 14:11 andreashm I haven't seen any mail about a meeting today, But haven't really looked either, I must admit 14:12 cait kidclamp: ping? 14:12 wahanui Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-about-Reading-Railroad-Books/dp/0448421658 14:12 thd cait: are you here for a meeting? 14:13 cait not quite :) 14:14 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_5_April_2017 14:15 cait i can run it 14:15 cait #startmeeting General IRC meeting 5 April 2017 14:15 huginn` Meeting started Wed Apr 5 14:15:11 2017 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:15 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:15 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_5_april_2017' 14:15 thd This is generally the well attended time internationally. 14:15 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_5_April_2017 Today's agenda 14:15 cait #topic Introductions 14:15 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 14:15 cait please introduce yoruself following wahanui's example 14:15 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 14:16 schnydszch #info Eugene Espinoza Philippines 14:16 andreashm #info Andreas Hedström Mace, Stockholm University Library, Sweden 14:16 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Geramny 14:17 cait hm empty 14:18 cait #topic Announcements 14:18 cait I encourage people to read Joubu's new summary 14:18 cait #link http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2017-April/043611.html What's on in koha-devel #11 14:19 cait moving on? 14:19 andreashm I have one 14:19 cait go for it :) 14:19 andreashm Stockholm Univserity Library is working on a project for RDF in Koha. There's an RFC up at: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/A_First_Step_Towards_RDF_in_Koha_RFC 14:20 marcelr #info Marcel de Rooy, Netherlands 14:20 andreashm Not exactly what Bywater is doing, so the projects complement each other. 14:21 cait #info Stockholm Univserity Library is working on a project for RDF in Koha. There's an RFC up at: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/A_First_Step_Towards_RDF_in_Koha_RFC 14:21 mrkastan #info Krystof Sadek, Czech Republic 14:21 cait very cool thx 14:21 andreashm np 14:21 cait any questions? 14:22 cait #topic Update on releases 14:22 cait khall? jajm? mtj? :) 14:23 khall cait: Nothing out of the ordinary 14:23 khall Feature slush will be approaching soon! 14:23 cait #info 16.11.06 was release a week later than usual, as we had 16.11.05 just a few days before the normal release as a security release 14:23 cait #info 16.11.07 is planned for the usual schedule, string freeze on 15th and release on April 22nd 14:24 cait khall: wow true! 14:24 cait khall: will you send an email witht he dates? 14:24 andreashm khall: do you know which date? 14:24 wahanui which date are we discussing? 14:24 khall will do cait! 14:24 khall I have not picked a specific date yet 14:25 andreashm ok, thanks 14:25 cait #info 17.05 will enter feature slush soon, khall will inform on the mailing list 14:25 cait #action khall to send an email to the list with feature slush, string freeze, etc. 14:25 cait anything else? 14:25 wahanui anything else is probably just being crap 14:26 cait #topic KohaCon 14:26 cait schnydszch? 14:26 wahanui it has been said that schnydszch is it June 12-16 Monday - Friday? 14:26 cait forget schnydszch 14:26 wahanui cait: I forgot schnydszch 14:27 schnydszch june 19-23 whanui 14:27 schnydszch it has been that since december :) 14:27 schnydszch http://kohacon2017philippines.com/ 14:27 cait #link http://kohacon2017philippines.com/ KohaCon17 website 14:28 schnydszch updates on KohaCon: we already have 156 registered participants 14:28 cait nice! 14:28 cait #info 156 persons registered so far 14:28 andreashm great! 14:28 schnydszch june 19-21 (main conference), june 22-23 hackfest 14:28 cait #info june 19-21 (main conference), june 22-23 hackfest 14:28 schnydszch 305+ foreign participants 14:28 schnydszch sorry 35+ 14:29 schnydszch less 2, which already sent regrets 14:30 cait 33? 14:30 schnydszch Paul P. and Biblibre will be coming over. We're working on the topics, so far we have 20, 4 needs confirmation, local speakers, 1 is from the institution which had the first known koha installation in the Philippines 14:30 * cait confused :) 14:30 schnydszch 35+ cait 14:30 cait ok 14:30 cait #info 35+ foreign participants 14:31 schnydszch within that number. One KOHAnep sponsor still up. :) 14:31 cait #info working on the programm, 20 presentations planned, 4 need conformation still, 1 is from the institution with the first known Koha installation in the Philippines 14:31 cait so you need one more sponsor? 14:32 schnydszch yeah one more major sponsor 14:32 cait or more smaller ones? 14:32 schnydszch one major 14:32 cait #info Still looking for sponsors, one major sponsor still needed 14:33 schnydszch bywaters emailed us way back they're donating, hi kidclamp ;) 14:33 cait i think he is in a meeting 14:33 cait schnydszch: maybe ask on the mailing list if sponsorship is still an issue in a bit 14:34 schnydszch Program will be out third week of April, as well as invitation for local participants. We're positive we'll hit the 200+ target for KohaCon 14:34 cait cool :) 14:34 schnydszch okay, will do that cait. 14:35 cait #info programme will be out third week of April as well as invitation for local participants 14:35 schnydszch we have one topic The future for Koha ILS/Roadmap for Koha ILS that up for developers who will be attending KohaCon :) Paul Poulain already has a lot on his plate. 14:35 cait thx for the update schnydszch 14:36 cait difficult topic 14:36 cait :) 14:36 schnydszch they can email the organizing committee, can be a collaboration on the topic :) 14:37 cait #info speaker wanted for 'The future for Koha ILS/Roadmap for Koha ILS' 14:37 schnydszch and also Linked Data, however it seems we won't have one aside from Scanbit (Spain) 14:37 schnydszch or RDF 14:37 cait #info also speaker for topics Linked Data/RDF 14:38 schnydszch Linked Data/RDF another topic up for grab 14:38 schnydszch thanks Cait 14:38 cait yw 14:38 cait questions? 14:38 wahanui questions are good :) 14:38 cait wahanui botsnack cookie 14:38 wahanui :) 14:38 cait ok, moving on to the next topic then! 14:38 cait hm i think NateC is not here? 14:38 cait so we will probably come to an end 14:39 cait 3 may 14:40 cait 19 UTC 14:40 thd Was 20 UTC not previously? 14:40 cait i was thinkign because of daylight savings 14:40 cait nz and germany just switched 14:41 cait us too 14:41 thd Yes, with daylight savings some hour adjustment should be in order. 14:41 cait should be 8 am in nz and 9 pm in germany (i hope) 14:41 eythian 10 hours difference euro -> nz now 14:41 thd Is 19 the correct direction of adjustment? 14:41 eythian I think 14:42 thd Should the adjustment not be to 21? 14:42 cait that's 11 pm 14:42 cait maybe keeping it to 20 is better 14:42 thd Ah, OK. 14:43 cait ok, may 3 20 utc 14:43 thd I think 19 preserves the time. 14:43 cait 7am 14:43 thd I suggest that 19 is correct relative to before. 14:44 cait i am going with 20 for now - i think we won't have the dieal 14:44 kidclamp 21 would be friendly to NZ at some point 14:44 thd cait: What was your local time before the change? 14:44 cait i think that's not too bad for either side for now 14:45 cait #agreed May 3, 20 UTC 14:45 cait #endmeeting 14:45 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Apr 5 14:45:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 14:45 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_5_april_2017.2017-04-05-14.15.html 14:45 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_5_april_2017.2017-04-05-14.15.txt 14:45 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_5_april_2017.2017-04-05-14.15.log.html 14:47 cait sorry, afk for a bit 14:49 andreashm We at Stockholm univ. are experiencing that one of the yellow (warning) dialog boxes is empty (no text is displayed). This seems to be when attempting to check out a book to a patron whose patron category isn't allowed to check it out according to the circulation rules. Other warnings/dialog boxes, like Barcode missing, works fine. Anyone else experience this? And/or has tips on where to look to fix? Where are the dialog box texts stored, 14:50 greenjimll Hi all. Is there a good reason why bulkmarcimport.pl doesn't use the C4::MarcModificationTemplates routines? I've just been hacking it in so that we can convert 852 fields to 952 fields (for item holdings) but want to make sure I'm not going to blow something up! 14:51 Joubu andreashm: texts are in template. If you recreate (sandbox?), open a bug report please 14:51 Joubu greenjimll: the script has been written before C4::MMT 14:52 greenjimll Joubu: Ah ha, in which case would a patch to use C4::MMT be of general interest? 14:52 andreashm joubu: thanks 14:53 andreashm I tested with a devbox and was unable to recreate. but will try again. 14:53 Joubu greenjimll: I have never touched this script, I am a bit afraid of it to be honest 14:54 Joubu greenjimll: what this change could bring? 14:56 Joubu greenjimll: ok got it. Yes I think that would be great 14:59 mrkastan can plugins alter UI? for example add plugin execution (or part of it) button into OPAC when viewing record 15:02 blou mrkastan: I've done that using the sysprefs. Added a button using js, pointing to a plugin. 15:03 blou You need to modify your httpd, though, to create a script alias. It's not kosher :P 15:07 mrkastan okay thanks blou 15:07 mrkastan that httpd - can be modified by that plugin's installation step or has to be done manually< 15:31 mrkastan okay, I have next stupid question - can Koha update modify sysprefs? and can plugin do that? 15:52 greenjimll Joubu: OK, I'll hack on the bulkmarcimport.pl a bit more in the next few weeks and then make a patch to submit. 16:23 greenjimll Joubu: I've just submitted Bug 18389 to Koha's Bugzilla with a patch to add C4::MarcModificationTemplate support to bulkmarcimport.pl 16:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18389 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , bulkmarcimport.pl does not take notice of MARC modification templates 16:24 Joubu greenjimll: sounds like you should read https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Submitting_A_Patch ;) 16:24 cait greenjimll: did you see you can also use staged tools from comamnd line? 16:24 cait coudl be interesting to add it there too to match the gui 16:25 cait and possibly easier 16:25 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=misc;h=43ccf8142ba43cd4409246294a5fed6bc85143d6;hb=7d35bdf58a0bcebab20df47b50b249cafe12ddb6 16:25 cait stage_file.pl and commit_file.pl 16:25 greenjimll Cait: can you? Doh! I tried staged tools via the web browser but it ate all the RAM on our dev box with 614000+ works. 16:25 cait i think the file naming is unfortunate 16:26 cait not a lot of people discover it - we use it for our daily imports from the union catalog 16:26 cait sometimes up to 100.000 records 16:26 cait works fine 16:26 cait but you have to clean your database sometimes, as koha stores all the import data (also means you have an undo option) 16:27 cait clean database = clean the imports - the database clean up cron job can do that 16:29 greenjimll Oh well - I live and learn. Got to rush off now, but I'll try to get my bugzilla reformatted correctly at some point! 16:30 cait leagin too - bye all! 16:30 reiveune bye 19:40 eythian http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/anonymous-texts-hidden-libraries 20:52 kidclamp night koha! 21:26 mveron Good night #koha 22:31 KentSlack Does Koha work on mysql databases > 5.6.20? 22:32 wizzyrea we know that 5.7 support is dodgy 22:32 wizzyrea but we are working on it. 22:33 KentSlack Thank you for your efforts on this. 22:36 KentSlack Does Koha work with MariaDB? 22:36 wizzyrea Yep, that's the recommended current work around 22:45 espen___ maybe it's should be the standard rather than the work-around these days? (I'm on a conversion course, sort to speak, here) 22:45 wizzyrea oh, it's always been an option 22:45 wizzyrea it's a drop in replacement 22:46 wizzyrea and more or less if you want to, you can 22:46 wizzyrea it's just, you have to choose one when you write "how to install" docs 22:46 wizzyrea so I suppose if someone wanted to go through and make all of the references to mysql say mariadb 22:46 wizzyrea that's their right :) 22:46 wizzyrea (people get overwhelmed when you say "do this, or maybe that." 22:46 wizzyrea ) 22:47 espen___ may take less time than keep having to say "watch this space" on mysql 5.7 :-) 22:48 wizzyrea It's coming ANY DAY NOW (lol) 22:55 espen___ quickie: is there a way to define an alternative OPAC logout link other than messing with JavaScript 22:56 wizzyrea I am unsure of the context of this request, what are you wanting to accomplish exactly? 22:57 espen___ followup from yesterday; I'm using an external single-sign-on system 22:57 espen___ it has it's own logout handler 22:58 wizzyrea Ah. Without changing the Koha code itself, javascript is probably your best bet. 22:58 wizzyrea sorry I missed the part from yesterday ;) 22:59 espen___ seems people thought what I was doing was well retro, but it actually works out very well so don't drop it! 23:00 wizzyrea you do you 23:00 wizzyrea (as long as you're not like, endangering patron privacy or exposing your users to risk.) 23:01 espen___ as I said then, apache auth mechanisms do trundle along, but away from the public eye some times; and it makes sense to support generic apache auth rather than reinventing everything in koha 23:01 espen___ the auth itself is very robust security wise! 23:01 wizzyrea If you're happy I'm happy. 23:04 espen___ very happy here; our 'legacy' auth system is very robust, and I expect oauth2 to do most of the things we wanted from shibboleth but were just not working out in the end