Time Nick Message 21:45 Joubu [off] patch attached 21:37 Joubu [off] patch is coming 21:37 Joubu [off] see 18349 21:21 Joubu [off] I am going to provide a quick fix to make it backportable ASAP 21:21 * rangi has a meeting bbl 21:21 rangi [off] theres a bunch of copy/paste in the sco stuff, good time to rewrite SCO to use the api, rather than double up on all the code eh? 21:20 rangi [off] ahh yeah, it shouldnt do that, least SCO is not on by default 21:19 Joubu [off] SCO is trusting the confirmed flag... 21:18 rangi [off] via the api? 21:18 Joubu [off] Want to checkout 1k books? Not a problem 21:18 Joubu [off] Everything is possible with Koha, want to renew a book even if you are not allowed? Not a problem 21:03 kidclamp bye koha! 19:48 * cait waves 19:47 rangi i just saw them all getting off the bus, looked like the junior team 19:46 rangi oh could have been hockey too 19:46 tcohen there's rugby and hockey I think 19:46 tcohen sure 19:46 rangi I guess it was the rugby team 19:46 tcohen :-D 19:45 tcohen !! 19:45 rangi cordoba athletic club were in wellington last weekend 19:45 rangi oh I forgot to tell you tcohen 19:45 tcohen hi rangi 19:43 rangi heya Joubu :) 19:42 Joubu hi rangi :) 19:31 rangi morning 17:48 ashimema hehe 17:12 kidclamp hi tcohen 17:12 tcohen hi kidclamp 17:11 kidclamp beat 17:10 kidclamp meat me by a minute 17:10 kidclamp ashimema++ 17:09 ashimema not so familiar with the other one.. and it's dinner time 17:03 * ashimema grabs 18329 17:02 tcohen hi 17:02 ashimema I love that while Joubu 17:01 ashimema haha 16:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18131 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Matching staged records when using elastic search fails 16:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18329 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Signed Off , Batch record deletion broken 16:33 wahanui Joubu: i'm not following you... 16:33 Joubu wahanui: while ( [bug 18329, bug 18131] not PQA ) { ping QAers; sleep 1h; } 15:59 Joubu 2 majors in QA I cannot QA 15:59 wahanui http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ are the better stats to optimise 15:59 Joubu http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ 15:49 kidclamp group effort 15:49 kidclamp Joubu++ 15:49 kidclamp oleonard++ 15:49 kidclamp cait++ 15:48 cait kidclamp++ 15:39 kidclamp I will respond 15:39 * cait deletes her draft 15:39 cait that's good too 15:39 kidclamp I was going to say try the koha list instead of here 15:39 * oleonard usually searches for a previous "this is not a support forum" bug comment and copies that 15:39 cait i was just gong to say tht it sounds more like a general problem with the system and to try the mailing list/linux mailing list instead 15:39 cait oooh no post yours 15:38 kidclamp :-) 15:38 * kidclamp deletes his draft 15:38 cait Joubu: hm let me try 15:29 Joubu if someone feel inspired... 15:28 * Joubu does not know what to answer 15:28 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18347 blocker, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Hanging of the computer system having koha 15:28 Joubu bug 18347 15:23 caboose ^great article 15:03 eythian https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/mickens/files/towashitallaway.pdf a concise and interesting thing on how web browsers and such actually work 15:03 eythian marcelr 15:03 eythian err 15:03 eythian bye magnuse 15:03 marcelr bye #koha 15:03 marcelr dont throw with that coin eythian; shout first 15:02 reiveune bye 15:00 * kidclamp jumps! 15:00 kidclamp that's roughly like catching me 14:56 oleonard I would not advise anyone trying to catch that coin in their catching sack. 14:52 eythian https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/27/world/europe/gold-coin-berlin-stolen.html?_r=0 <-- drojf has funding to provide too 14:43 marcelr you too throwing money (see ml) 14:43 kidclamp kidclamp opens his money catching sack 14:43 oleonard That might be a feature we could throw money at. 14:43 marcelr , 14:43 marcelr no true 14:43 cait and we don't keep them for long - for privacy reasons 14:42 cait for hsoted libraries it's not easy to check syslogs 14:42 oleonard Agreed kidclamp 14:42 cait marcelr: i was thinking about koha reports :) 14:42 marcelr and there is a pref with tracking 14:42 kidclamp would be nice to have those exist and update with sip login 14:41 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14513 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , keep track of patron last activity 14:41 kidclamp bug 14513 14:41 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15504 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Track Patron's Last Activity 14:41 kidclamp bug 15504 14:41 marcelr look in syslog 14:41 marcelr for sip i mean 14:41 marcelr i think they are logged 14:41 cait maybe it would be a good enhancement to log logins 14:41 cait hm 14:40 oleonard For others we can use checkouts, but not for those whose accounts are only used for SIP authentication 14:40 oleonard We have been thinking about how to consider what 'active' means for a patron who only uses digital services 14:39 cait oleonard: not koha, but i think there is aserver side log 14:37 marcelr yeah 14:34 Joubu be care, it's a dangerous area :p You touch something, it falls down on the other side 14:34 marcelr hope to improve a bit now 14:33 marcelr it is very weird 14:33 marcelr david cook spent some time on it but wrote no patches yet 14:33 Joubu marcelr: I am not sure there are 2 people on earth knowing how it works 14:32 marcelr oleonard: look in syslog 14:32 marcelr no but it should :) 14:32 Joubu marcelr: are you going to rewrite the inventory tool? 14:31 oleonard Does Koha log SIP requests in any way? 13:48 Joubu can do in python if needed 13:47 oleonard Don't make Joubu mad eythian, he was holding out for PHP 13:47 eythian no, public static int main(String[] aarg) 13:47 kidclamp not bad for those who were there to touch base Joubu 13:47 marcelr aarg 13:46 eythian I see it was decided to rewrite it all in java 13:46 marcelr we could have decided to change the workflow or something lol 13:46 marcelr Joubu: maybe if 50 read the logs ?? 13:45 eythian that was bad planning oleopard 13:45 * oleonard was afk 13:45 oleonard Oh dang I missed my chance to opine on the Oxford comma. 13:43 Joubu Are meetings with 4 attendees really useful? 13:42 marcelr kidclamp++ 13:42 kidclamp thanks even 13:42 kidclamp thansk all 13:42 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_29_march_2017.2017-03-29-13.03.log.html 13:42 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_29_march_2017.2017-03-29-13.03.txt 13:42 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_29_march_2017.2017-03-29-13.03.html 13:42 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Mar 29 13:42:35 2017 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 13:42 kidclamp #endmeeting 13:42 kidclamp [off] such as opinions on oxford comma 13:41 kidclamp last call for comment, questions or snide remarks 13:41 kidclamp #info next meeting 12 April 2017, 19UTC 13:41 marcelr of course 13:41 marcelr except for eythian 13:40 kidclamp yeah 13:40 marcelr they are kind of quite around this time 13:40 eythian they will be sound asleep I expect 13:40 kidclamp unless any new zealanders want to speak up 13:40 kidclamp I think 19 was preferred to 20 13:40 kidclamp 12 April 2017, 19UTC? 13:40 marcelr we toggle between the two 13:39 kidclamp April 12th, but not this time for next meeting 13:39 marcelr ok ;) 13:39 kidclamp :b 13:39 kidclamp #action marcelr will draft a coding guidelines exceptions policy for next meeting 13:38 marcelr :) 13:38 kidclamp more please marcelr 13:37 marcelr but we should add one for exceptions 13:37 kidclamp #topic Set time of next meeting 13:37 marcelr no 13:37 kidclamp skipping coding guidelins unless anyone has anything for that? 13:36 kidclamp #info ES needs testing as well - caboose and inlibro will try to help 13:35 kidclamp should be NSO 13:35 Joubu guys, please tests then :) 13:35 kidclamp kohadevbox should work with ES5 out of box - frido worked on setting it up independently and may be have tips 13:35 blou We (inLibro) also could find ressources to test ES. 13:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18131 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Matching staged records when using elastic search fails 13:35 Joubu bug 18131 13:34 caboose I'd be happy to be a tester for ES 13:34 Joubu in a way that SearchAuthority sub is called instead of the compat method from Koha::SE 13:33 kidclamp in what way Joubu? 13:33 Joubu authority related stuffs are completely broken under ES 13:32 kidclamp it fixes sorting (somewhat) and some authority issues 13:32 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18189 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Elasticsearch sorting broken 13:32 kidclamp bug 18189 would be good to get in 13:31 kidclamp #action kidclamp will send an update on ES to the lists 13:31 kidclamp in general though we need testers to figure otu what is working and what is not 13:30 kidclamp hackfest helped find a few things 13:30 kidclamp need to review what there is 13:30 kidclamp I will try to send something out to the list before in the next week 13:30 Joubu are* 13:30 Joubu things that is going to be done, need to be done, will be done later? 13:29 Joubu Is there a plan? 13:29 kidclamp I am working on submitting more as well 13:29 kidclamp Just to mention there are number of things open for ES - would be nice to see them in to 17.05 so please test QA where you can 13:27 kidclamp #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 13:27 kidclamp moving on 13:26 kidclamp #info Hea v2 has been pushed and will be backported in next releases 13:26 Joubu Brooke: Hea v2 includes a map 13:25 Joubu release*s* hopefully 13:25 Brooke is there someone on project with enough exp to tie hea into the wiki so we can get a nice map? 13:25 kidclamp #info Hea v2 has been pushed and will be backported in next release 13:25 Joubu and check with lds to update the production server 13:25 kidclamp I have been encouraging more to join for future - more members who can hit easier patches would keep things moving 13:25 Joubu will get backported on next release, will need to contact the RMaints 13:24 Brooke Nice! 13:24 Joubu Hea v2 is pushed 13:24 kidclamp #info please help keep the queue down 13:24 Joubu nothing new 13:24 Joubu nope 13:24 marcelr no 13:23 kidclamp Joubu? marcelr? 13:22 kidclamp #topic Updates from the QA team 13:21 kidclamp #info please watch for critical,major, security bugs for current releases and move these along 13:21 Brooke *crickets* 13:20 kidclamp I don't know if we have any here...cait, mtj, jajm? 13:19 kidclamp #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 13:19 kidclamp moving on 13:18 Joubu (do not want to be polemical, just saying, you can move on) 13:18 marcelr Joubu: it was in PQA friday 13:18 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18312: Fix export unless a file is supplied <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8dad1582c100017f8ad3e331c9a9b9cc9ed4e4d6> / Bug 18144: Restore pieces of C4/Auth to make Google OpenID Connect work <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1a53b49980e913c55c6f2021d21b6aa99ac8cefd> 13:18 khall Joubu: if it's not getting pushed to master fast enough, just ping me. I've been so bogged down bag was acting as the primary pusher in the recent past 13:17 Joubu 16.11 is going to spend one more month with a critical issue, just because SO+QA+push takes too long 13:17 khall blou: sure! 13:17 Joubu I fix stuff in hours, then it takes day to see stuffs included 13:17 blou khall: about taking requests, is that a quote we can put on the "quote list" for the bot? :) 13:17 Joubu nothing else is priority 13:16 Joubu > major and security are priority 13:16 khall we must remember, when everything is a priority, nothing is a priority 13:15 khall lol 13:15 marcelr be careful, you will be mailed a lot :) 13:15 Joubu k 13:15 khall if something has passed qa and someone PMs be to request it gets pushed, more the likely I'll take care of it 13:14 khall Joubu: I also take requests ; ) 13:14 Joubu it's an enh 13:14 Joubu nope 13757 has been QA then push in the 2 hours 13:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18312 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Export is broken unless a file is supplied 13:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18144 critical, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Removal of persona broke Google OAuth2 13:14 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18312: Fix export unless a file is supplied 13:14 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18144: Restore pieces of C4/Auth to make Google OpenID Connect work 13:14 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #137: STILL FAILING in 55 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/137/ 13:13 khall I go by severity 13:13 Joubu LIFO does not sound like a good method to process it 13:13 khall Joubu: not sure what you mean 13:13 Joubu push order is quite weird, how do you process it? 13:12 kidclamp we have a bit but reminder of slush/freezes khall? 13:12 marcelr great 13:12 marcelr oh you pushed it now 13:12 khall marcelr: just pushed that ; ) 13:12 marcelr there is one about export.pl 13:12 khall The queue is pretty long now, so I'll take some time on Friday to clear it out 13:11 khall Not much to say, I've been pushing to master when I can, Brendan has also been pushing some as well. 13:11 kidclamp khall 13:11 kidclamp #topic Update from the Release manager (17.05) 13:10 wahanui hmmm... anything else is just being crap 13:10 kidclamp anything else? 13:10 marcelr great 13:10 kidclamp I can look at 18019 today and test 13:09 marcelr secu bugs are only seen by a few 13:09 Joubu sounds like quite easy to undestand why 13:09 Joubu these bugs HAVE TO BE processed quickly 13:08 Joubu seems like people have trouble with security/critical/blocker 13:08 kidclamp was a typo 13:08 Joubu does not mean the same, in SO I would have QA it for weeks... 13:07 kidclamp :-) 13:07 wahanui okay, kidclamp. 13:07 kidclamp #info security bug 18019 is also in the needs sign off queue 13:07 marcelr but we probably mean the same 13:07 marcelr no in NSO 13:07 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18019 is not accessible. 13:07 kidclamp #info security bug 18019 is also in the sign off queue 13:06 kidclamp #info Bug 9988 needs sign off 13:06 marcelr And there is a security bug too: 18019, awaiting some attention for weeks already. 13:06 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9988 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Leave larger authority merges to merge_authorities cronjob (pref AuthorityMergeLimit) 13:06 marcelr I still want to ask for a signoff on bug 9988. This development gets stuck in Needs Signoff. 13:06 kidclamp #topic Announcements 13:05 kidclamp last call.. 13:04 magnuse #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway 13:04 marcelr but after changing the clock? 13:04 marcelr time 13:04 marcelr 13utc was a good tome 13:04 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 13:04 wahanui i think Joubu is not sure how to fix that correctly 13:04 kidclamp Joubu? 13:04 khall #info Kyle Hall, ByWater Solutions 13:03 marcelr meeting ! 13:03 marcelr this will be a crowdy meeting 13:03 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 13:03 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 13:03 kidclamp #topic Introductions 13:03 marcelr #info Marcel de Rooy 13:03 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_29_march_2017' 13:03 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:03 huginn` Meeting started Wed Mar 29 13:03:09 2017 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:03 kidclamp #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 29 March 2017 13:03 marcelr during :) 13:02 kidclamp before or during meeting? 13:02 marcelr requests actually 13:02 marcelr i have two small announcements for you 13:02 kidclamp well, Ill start meeting and we can see :-) nothing on agenda so should be quick 13:01 marcelr eythian: niet allemaal tegelijk 13:00 kidclamp hi marcelr 13:00 marcelr hi kidclamp 13:00 kidclamp morning all - who is here for meeting? 12:53 magnuse kia ora nengard 12:46 nengard morning magnuse 12:46 nengard hehe 12:46 wahanui nengard is fast 12:46 magnuse nengard! 12:45 kidclamp meeting in a bit all 12:45 eythian magnuse: je mag "je" zeggen :) maar, dankjewel 12:44 * kidclamp waves 12:43 magnuse Gefeliciteerd met uw jubileum, eythian 12:41 magnuse anyone else seen problems with adding and updating patrons in Explorer after upgrading to 16.11.05? 11:47 marcelr probably he forgot to send the reminder yesterday.. 11:45 Joubu kidclamp sent an email to postpone the last one, it was during the hackfest 11:43 oleonard I don't see it listed https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings#2017 11:41 cait i think so - but we have another meeting so BSZ won't be there 11:37 marcelr do we have a developer meeting today at 13 utc ? 11:36 marcelr hi #koha 11:04 francharb Hello #koha 11:00 Joubu people will have to wait one more month to export records from 16.11 11:00 Joubu for instance 18312 has not been pushed, then not backported 10:58 khall Joubu: will do! 10:58 Joubu first 10:58 Joubu khall: please push critical things quick and fist 10:49 Joubu hi #koha 10:40 eythian -s 10:40 eythian I still don't exists 10:40 huginn` eythian: Error: No such location could be found. 10:40 eythian @wunder ams 10:39 * cait waves 08:17 * magnuse waves to espen_ and wonders about the norwegian sounding name :-) 07:28 gaetan_B hello 07:04 eythian Me too 07:04 huginn` eythian: Error: No such location could be found. 07:04 eythian @wunder ams 07:01 alex_a ;p 07:01 alex_a bonjour le reste du monde 06:55 reiveune hello 06:55 magnuse I'm free!!! 06:55 huginn` magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 06:55 magnuse @wunder Bodø, Norway 06:55 huginn` magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 06:55 magnuse @wunder boo 06:55 huginn` magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 06:55 magnuse @wunder enbo 06:55 magnuse bonjour le france 06:52 magnuse \o/ 06:50 oha a-ohy! 06:43 * magnuse waves