Time Nick Message 22:47 siletzlib Anybody here? 20:43 * thd runs for his laundry and visiting French teacher in hospital :( More for Koha tomorrow. 20:42 cait please also feel always free to add topics to the agenda that you want to discuss 20:42 cait it's a bit late for europe 20:42 cait georgewilliams: there are all a bit different, this time slot is usually a bit faster/quiet 20:41 georgewilliams adios everyone 20:41 georgewilliams thd: agree 20:41 thd Alas there will never be a perfect meeting time for such an internationally distributed project. 20:41 georgewilliams this was the first meeting I've been to in a couple of years - the last meeting I attended was so fast I couldn't keep up - this one was much slower 20:40 georgewilliams BobB - I agree - brief is good - but I also agree with thd - didn't seem like much happened 20:40 cait i am out of practice - kidclamp++ 20:39 cait yw :) 20:39 kchris Thanks cait! 20:38 thd BobB: Yes brief is good but low attendance has also meant that much of the agenda could not be addressed even if we addressed what was really important for today. 20:37 georgewilliams thanks cait 20:36 caboose_ thanks cait! 20:36 BobB the day begins .... 20:36 BobB its actually nice to have a short one 20:36 BobB thaniks cait 20:35 thd [14 has sometimes been 10 local time for me ;)] 20:35 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_1_march_2017.2017-03-01-20.03.log.html 20:35 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_1_march_2017.2017-03-01-20.03.txt 20:35 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_1_march_2017.2017-03-01-20.03.html 20:35 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Mar 1 20:35:40 2017 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 20:35 cait #endmeeting 20:35 cait thx everyone for attending! 20:35 cait #agreed Next meeting will be on 5 April 2017, 14 UTC 20:35 thd this is the alternate to 14 20:35 cait ok 20:34 thd yes 14 20:34 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings 20:34 thd My mistake 20:34 cait hm wiki says 14 20:34 thd 10 UTC has been the recent alternate if I am not mistaken. 20:34 cait but the time? 20:34 cait april 5th 20:34 cait i am a bit out of the loop - does someone know how this works currently? 20:33 cait #topic Set time of next meeting 20:33 cait ok, if there is nothing else, i will mov eon to setting the date/time of the next meeting 20:33 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon18_Proposals 20:33 thd Exactly 20:33 cait it's still early and no applications yet 20:32 thd We had not established a deadline. 20:32 cait thd: do we have a deadline? 20:32 cait #info Please add your proposals for KohaCon18 to the wiki if you are interested in hosting it! 20:32 schnydszch *received any = received actual sponsorship deposits 20:32 cait ah 20:31 cait does somoene want to propose another topic to discuss? 20:31 cait NateC is not around - I tihnk we are going to skip the next topic on the agenda 20:30 schnydszch As there's already one who already asked if they can present remotely 20:29 schnydszch Ys we can set up 20:29 schnydszch Yes cait. But we haven't received yet any. Some are feelers. We're pretty good so far as the deadline is april 30 for sponsorships 20:28 thd schnydszch: Have you a plan for recording presentations for those who cannot be present? 20:27 phred sweet dreams! 20:27 cait schnydszch: is sponsorship working out? 20:27 schnydszch You're welcome cait 20:27 schnydszch If there are no more qu3stions :) 20:27 cait thx schnydszch 20:27 schnydszch Will go back to sleep :) 20:26 schnydszch Yeah that's all so far.. :) 20:26 cait or ar there questions for schnydszch? 20:26 cait moving on? 20:26 cait cool 20:26 cait sounds like things are going well overall 20:25 cait #info 50 registrations so far! 20:25 schnydszch We will be expecting more once we go full blast on local participants. 20:24 schnydszch Participant pre-registration has reach the 50 mark. 20:23 schnydszch Additional sponsor: EBSCO Gobi library solutions (they've sent interest last week of january) and alvet miranda will again be presenting/updating on koha-eds 20:22 schnydszch Other topics will be presented in the next meeting since it's not yet finalized. Additional topics: biblibre's Koha-Coral integration 20:19 schnydszch Yep. Pail poulain has expressed two topics. Intro and if chris will be attending, they'll do it again :) 20:19 cait #info Call for papers ends on march 15th, might be extended to end of march 20:19 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 20:19 cait #info Infos are on the website: kohacon2017philippines.com 20:19 cait #info Thanks to biblibre and bywater solutions for sponsoring kohacon17! 20:18 bag do you have papers submitted already? recieved? 20:18 schnydszch Call for papers deadline march 15, 2017. We might be extending it to march 30, 2017 20:17 schnydszch Infos are in the website kohacon2017philippines.com 20:16 schnydszch Sorry i'm mobile 20:16 schnydszch No 20:16 schnydszch We'd like to thank biblibre and bywaters for emailing us to be sponsorz for kohacon2017 20:15 * cait sends coffee 20:15 schnydszch Okay jusy woke up it's 4AM here ;) 20:15 wizzyrea #info Liz Rea, Catalyst IT (mostly lurking) 20:14 cait #topic KohaCon 20:14 cait and moving on 20:13 cait anything else about the releases? 20:12 cait #info 16.11.04 was released on 22nd, including a lot of bugfixes, planning to stick to schedule for 16.11.05 20:12 khall_away Yes, nothing noteworthy, pretty standard updates to master 20:12 bag all good 20:12 cait all good? 20:12 cait we just reached update on releases 20:11 khall_away cait will be going mobile, mostly read-only ; ) 20:11 bag not too much to report I think khall_away 20:11 caboose_ #info update, Michael Cabus, ByWater Solutions, Princeton New Jersey 20:11 cait khall_away? :) 20:11 khall_away #info Kyle Hall, ByWater Solutions 20:11 cait #topic Update on releases 20:11 barton [oops, forgot 'BWS, Louisville, KY, USA, Earth, SOL] 20:10 schnydszch #info Eugene Espinoza philippines 20:10 cait ok moving on 20:10 kchris #info Chris Kirby, Green Mountain Library Consortium 20:10 bag BobB: yes!!! it’s totally worth it 20:10 caboose_ #info Michael Cabus 20:09 BobB would so love to come to Marseille, maybe next year 20:09 barton #info Barton Chittenden 20:09 cait anything else? 20:09 cait #info phred is giving a koha presentation at the association of college and research libraries in baltimore later this month 20:09 cait better 20:09 cait #info hackfest in marseille is soon! please register 20:09 cait oh 20:09 phred Now I just have to finish the project--I was out of work for a month with the flu and sequelae. :-( 20:08 cait #indo hackfest in marseille is soon! please register 20:08 talljoy phred++ 20:08 bag phred++ 20:08 talljoy nice phred! 20:08 phred Kind of an announcement--I'm giving a presentation on Koha later this month at the Association of College and Research libraries in Baltimore. 20:08 bag get your tickets :) 20:08 bag hackfest in a couple of weeks 20:07 cait announcements? 20:07 cait #topic Announcements 20:07 cait :) 20:05 SWITCH_Staff #info Jason Palmer SWITCH Library Consortium 20:05 lisettelatah #info Lisette Scheer Latah County Library District 20:05 bag #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater 20:05 phred #info Fred King, Washington Hospital Center 20:05 AdamB #info Adam Brooks ByWater Solutions 20:05 georgewilliams #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System 20:05 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 20:05 BobB #info Bob Birchall, Calyx, Australia 20:04 talljoy #info Joy Nelson Bywater Solutions 20:04 cait please introduce yourself with #info! 20:04 cait #topic Introductions 20:04 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_1_March_2017 today's agenda 20:03 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_1_march_2017' 20:03 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:03 huginn` Meeting started Wed Mar 1 20:03:53 2017 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:03 cait #startmeeting General IRC meeting 1 March 2017 20:03 cait meeting in a minute 20:02 talljoy hi bobb 20:02 BobB hi talljoy, hi bjohnson 20:00 cait one sec 19:58 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha cait BobB tcohen et all. 19:57 mtompset which meeting, cait? 19:57 mtompset Well, then I best leave. :P ;) 19:55 BobB good morning #koha 19:54 cait meeting in 7 mins 19:53 cait hello all 19:49 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18144 critical, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Removal of persona broke openidconnect 19:49 mtompset bug 18144 :) 19:48 mtompset tcohen: Do any of your clients use the Google Authentication? Because it is broken in master. 19:37 mtompset and am in hte midst of recreating from scratch. 19:37 mtompset So I updated my kohadevbox clone, put the ONE patch that I have (misc4dev requires kohaclone to pre-exist causing the need to provision a second time) 19:36 mtompset I'm experiencing the same sort of Internal Server Error for my Jessie. 19:35 kchris_away lari: are you there? 19:34 mtompset ^the^they^ 19:34 mtompset It's not that simple. In Xenial, the did the "let's split everything into directories and #include them" 19:31 tcohen send me the shipped one from a fresh install 19:30 tcohen we overwrite my.cnf :-D 19:30 tcohen i do know 19:30 tcohen we might be breaking it 19:30 mtompset I don't know. 19:30 tcohen it works out of the box (i mean MySQL on 16.04) 19:30 tcohen how is that f*ng possible? 19:30 mtompset I disabled it, and I still can't start my MySQL server. 19:29 mtompset I'm not, tcohen. :P 19:17 tcohen enjoy it :_S 19:16 tcohen that means 'fun' 19:16 mtompset Not if we can get it to play nice. 19:15 tcohen mtompset: should we just disable apparmor? 19:13 mtompset Not fun to hear at all, tcohen 19:13 tcohen how fun is that? 19:13 tcohen hi mtompset I didn't 19:11 mtompset Anyone else had fun with kohadevbox xenial and mysql issues with apparmor? 19:11 mtompset Greetings, druthb :) 19:11 * druthb waves to mtompset 19:11 huginn` mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 14 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <tcohen> drojf++ 19:11 mtompset @seen tcohen 19:11 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 19:08 huginn` eythian: The operation succeeded. 19:08 eythian @later tell rangi https://www.mirbsd.org/permalinks/wlog-10_e20170301-tg.htm#e20170301-tg_wlog-10 17:57 tcohen drojf++ 17:53 tcohen hi kidclamp 17:53 tcohen hehe :-D 17:53 kidclamp_lunch hi uncle tcohen 17:52 tcohen hi 17:22 reiveune bye 15:59 drojf later #koha 15:33 cait requirements is https://koha-community.org/download-koha/ 15:33 cait ah... too slow 15:29 A__A I'll talk to him and log back on tomorrow here. Tata for now. 15:27 A__A cait: Thanks for the input. It's very helpful, believe it or not. Yes, there's only about 12,000 people - actual residents - in Whitby. (Or is it houses? Anyway.) 15:25 drojf *imagined 15:25 drojf that is how i imagoined whitby ;) 15:25 A__A I will speak to the IT guy, who handles the web stuff, and get his input. He lives down the road, literally. 15:24 cait ah cool :) i once ran into a pharmacy using koha (lending health related books) 15:23 A__A Whitby, UK 15:23 cait A__A: where are you located? 15:23 A__A Homeopathy, Steiner, Psychology, Herbal Medicine, etc. 15:22 A__A drojf: No, to lend them, as a library. 15:21 drojf A__A: you are going to use koha to sell books? 15:21 cait i mean be able to run root commands on command line, install things on the server etc. - if you only have web space it will not work 15:21 cait you need root 15:21 A__A (Sorry, it's the 2nd day of my investigating options to put the shop's library online.) 15:21 cait maybe 15:20 A__A kidclamp: so if it turns out the shop's webserver or provider or whatnot is Linux, we should be able to upload the koha system onto the server, yes? 15:16 kidclamp A__A basic install guide is here https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian 15:14 drojf i should set up autojoin channels i guess 15:14 eythian ah yep 15:14 drojf eythian: that is where i learned how uploading works the last time, found it in my logs. for some reason i forget to go there 15:13 A__A I am helping to put a small library online, so people can search and reserve etc over the web. What do we need to do get it installed and running, so we can start adding the data, ie the books? I notice it talks about Linux. 15:13 eythian drojf: the oftc #debian-perl group is very helpful too 15:10 A__A Oha. Typing 15:10 oha i did, accidentally actually :) A__A 15:09 A__A Is anyone online, I mean with eyes on this? 14:56 drojf … 14:56 drojf now that i finally looked again up how uploading works 14:55 * drojf packages all the things 14:54 ashimema :) 14:54 drojf ashimema: also https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=856483 ;) 14:42 cait drojf++ ? :) 14:36 ashimema nice drojf 14:17 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded. 14:17 drojf @later tell tcohen https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=856484 13:37 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Crescent C Ranch, Hockley, Texas is 20.8°C (7:36 AM CST on March 01, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 13:37 druthb @wunder 77447 13:35 oleonard Black as night outside. 13:35 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 15.3°C (8:35 AM EST on March 01, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.57 in 1001 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect until 7 PM EST this evening... 13:35 oleonard @wunder 45701 12:58 * magnuse waves 12:54 druthb Good morning, #koha. 12:53 oleonard Hi tcohen 12:52 tcohen bonjour 12:46 drojf no postcard for me 12:46 drojf ho ileopard 12:43 oleonard Has anyone gotten even a postcard from him? 12:42 eythian (poor wahanui) 12:42 eythian hi oleopard 12:42 marcelr hi oleonard 12:40 oleonard Hi all 12:14 marcelr hey drojf 12:14 drojf hi marcelr 12:03 marcelr hi eythian 12:03 eythian hi marcelr 12:02 marcelr hi #koha 11:57 huginn` eythian: Karma for "c" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7. 11:57 eythian @karma c 11:31 drojf :) 11:31 drojf u++ 11:24 cait u. found a solution, asking him to add it to the bug 11:24 cait it drove me nuts 11:24 drojf cait: that sounds scary 11:23 drojf i did not know there is turbomarc http://www.indexdata.com/news/2014/06/turbomarc-faster-xml-marc-records 11:22 cait waiting for the technical details, but it's one of the oddest thing i have run into so far :) 11:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18186 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Amounts with decimal comma instead of decimal dot breaking payments 11:22 cait bug 18186 might be interesting for you drojf 11:13 drojf hehe 11:02 eythian you wouldn't download the weather! 11:01 * drojf copies eythian's weather 10:58 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 7.0°C (11:50 AM CET on March 01, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). 10:58 drojf @wunder sxf 10:58 drojf hi eythian 10:54 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 7.0°C (11:25 AM CET on March 01, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). 10:54 eythian @wunder ams 10:54 eythian hi 09:33 circ-user-tfPdG its possible to configure send email notification ? 09:33 circ-user-tfPdG i am using vps with ip address 09:33 circ-user-tfPdG anyone can help on send email alert on koha 09:33 circ-user-tfPdG hello 09:23 fridolin1 drojf: yep thanks a lot 09:22 drojf fridolin1: but the deb in the repo should be the last working version. if you just want to install master 09:21 magnuse ah DefaultClassificationSource 09:20 fridolin1 oki 09:18 drojf to build you need to skip the test 09:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16034 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, RESOLVED FIXED, Integration with OverDrive Patron API 09:17 drojf fridolin1: there is a problem because of bug 16034 atm 09:16 fridolin1 drojf: ahhhhhhh nice 09:16 drojf the deb in unstable is pretty old, i did not update after i set up the nightly builds 09:16 drojf oh you are in the unstable repo? use the nightly builds, they are 16.12 https://apt.abunchofthings.net/koha-nightly/ 09:15 fridolin1 no 16.12 ? 09:15 fridolin1 drojf: huuuu, the unstable version of package is 16.06+git ? 09:14 drojf fridolin1: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=debian/control;h=209828f996d43d5a7dfc213bb896ff51933dd540;hb=HEAD#l247 09:13 magnuse hm, if you leave the "standard value" for 952$2 (source of classification) empty, ddc is still suggested as the default. that seems not quite right 09:08 drojf fridolin1: i think it is in 16.11 but not in 16.05. should be in master 09:06 fridolin1 https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libbusiness-issn-perl 09:06 fridolin1 drojf: looks like there is now Business::ISSN in master, but deb is not paquage 09:05 fridolin1 drojf: little question about koha-perldeps 09:05 drojf my balcony needs some spring cleaning before i guess 09:04 magnuse not quite ready for balcony office either 09:04 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (9:50 AM CET on March 01, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.12 in 986 hPa (Steady). 09:04 magnuse @wunder enbo 09:03 drojf balcony even 09:03 fridolin1 ;) 09:03 drojf balkony office :D 09:03 drojf a bit too cold for balkony 09:02 drojf with sunshine 09:02 fridolin1 nice cold morning 09:02 fridolin1 drojf: hie 09:01 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 4.0°C (9:50 AM CET on March 01, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). 09:01 drojf @wunder sxf 09:01 drojf hi gaetan_B and fridolin1 08:58 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B 08:57 gaetan_B hello 08:15 gaetan_B hello 08:11 fridolin hie 08:01 jajm hello 07:59 alex_a bonjour 07:36 reiveune hello 07:12 drojf nice 07:12 * magnuse tries to kickstart the day with some Motörhead 07:11 drojf hei magnuse 07:11 magnuse moin drojf 07:09 drojf morning #koha 06:47 * magnuzzz wakes up 06:47 * magnuzzz waves 06:36 Dave_J Apologies on behalf of the power company here in Zim. 06:35 Dave_J Sorry Folks, we had a power cut here and I got disconnected. Did anyone reply to my post? 06:16 Dave_J Hi Folks, I'm trying to create a new opac templates, so I can switch backwards and forwards quickly while designing the opac page. Maybe I've taken the wrong approach... I'm not really changing anything that I can't change with code in the system prefs, but it would be nice when sitting with the artists and librarians to be able to change the default template, reload the OPAC and see the result. 01:45 dcook Or really many specials overall 01:45 dcook It could actually work quite well for certain government libraries I'm sure 01:44 dcook I'm down for being the first 01:44 dcook Oh I totally agree 01:39 wizzyrea just saying. 01:39 wizzyrea and we could be the first ILS to support it. 01:39 wizzyrea probably none 01:39 dcook Reminds me that I need to get a yubikey as well.. 01:39 dcook That would be awesome though 01:39 * dcook wonders how many libraries have 2fa 01:37 wizzyrea not when we don't yet have 2fa 01:37 * wizzyrea goes full curmudgeon 01:37 wizzyrea I just don't see the need to have Yet Another Comment System when we have one that does basically the same stuff 01:36 mtj yeah... i think that was our situ ^ 01:36 dcook Yeah, I imagine few people would use it, but if someone wants it, I wouldn't block it. If you know what i mean. 01:35 wizzyrea if they are already using it for some reason, maybe 01:35 wizzyrea I can't see librarians liking that especially 01:34 wizzyrea to do it 01:34 wizzyrea but you have to log into another thing 01:34 mtj disqus prolly has a snazzier admin dashboard, etc 01:33 mtj i guess the only benefit i can think of with disqus.. is that admin'ing the comments on a busy koha might be ... easier? 01:33 wizzyrea I don't see a benefit to it 01:33 wizzyrea we allow comments on the main website 01:26 * dcook goes back to things 01:26 dcook Although yeah I don't know the diff with a review. 01:26 dcook I don't see why not then. Make it optional and then it's up to individual libraries whether they want it or not. 01:26 dcook Oh I thought we were talking about the main website. For individual Kohas.. 01:25 dcook Yeah boo comments 01:20 mtj um... yeah that too :) 01:20 wizzyrea it's bad news. 01:20 wizzyrea because as soon as trolls find the function 01:20 wizzyrea plus, lots of places are phasing out comments 01:19 wizzyrea I think the same thing 01:19 mtj or.. same thing 01:19 mtj are reviews and comments 2 diff things in koha? 01:19 wizzyrea shiny as it is I don't see a really big benefit :/ 01:18 wizzyrea i mean, we can both have and moderate comments already 01:17 mtj hmm, we have a review feature, that i think is probably adequate enough myself 01:14 wizzyrea what's the benefit over what we already have? 01:14 mtj i managed a working demo, some tyme ago.. https://imgur.com/a/vkuDx 01:14 wizzyrea benefit? 01:13 mtj hey #koha, what do people think about a commenting system for Koha... using disqus?