Time  Nick            Message
01:13 mtj             hey #koha, what do people think about a commenting system for Koha... using disqus?
01:14 wizzyrea        benefit?
01:14 mtj             i managed a working demo, some tyme ago.. https://imgur.com/a/vkuDx
01:14 wizzyrea        what's the benefit over what we already have?
01:17 mtj             hmm, we have a review feature, that i think is probably adequate enough myself
01:18 wizzyrea        i mean, we can both have and moderate comments already
01:19 wizzyrea        shiny as it is I don't see a really big benefit :/
01:19 mtj             are reviews and comments 2 diff things in koha?
01:19 mtj             or.. same thing
01:19 wizzyrea        I think the same thing
01:20 wizzyrea        plus, lots of places are phasing out comments
01:20 wizzyrea        because as soon as trolls find the function
01:20 wizzyrea        it's bad news.
01:20 mtj             um... yeah that too :)
01:25 dcook           Yeah boo comments
01:26 dcook           Oh I thought we were talking about the main website. For individual Kohas..
01:26 dcook           I don't see why not then. Make it optional and then it's up to individual libraries whether they want it or not.
01:26 dcook           Although yeah I don't know the diff with a review.
01:26 * dcook         goes back to things
01:33 wizzyrea        we allow comments on the main website
01:33 wizzyrea        I don't see a benefit to it
01:33 mtj             i guess the only benefit i can think of with disqus.. is that admin'ing the comments on a busy koha might be ... easier?
01:34 mtj             disqus prolly has a snazzier admin dashboard, etc
01:34 wizzyrea        but you have to log into another thing
01:34 wizzyrea        to do it
01:35 wizzyrea        I can't see librarians liking that especially
01:35 wizzyrea        if they are already using it for some reason, maybe
01:36 dcook           Yeah, I imagine few people would use it, but if someone wants it, I wouldn't block it. If you know what i mean.
01:36 mtj             yeah... i think that was our situ ^
01:37 wizzyrea        I just don't see the need to have Yet Another Comment System when we have one that does basically the same stuff
01:37 * wizzyrea      goes full curmudgeon
01:37 wizzyrea        not when we don't yet have 2fa
01:39 * dcook         wonders how many libraries have 2fa
01:39 dcook           That would be awesome though
01:39 dcook           Reminds me that I need to get a yubikey as well..
01:39 wizzyrea        probably none
01:39 wizzyrea        and we could be the first ILS to support it.
01:39 wizzyrea        just saying.
01:44 dcook           Oh I totally agree
01:44 dcook           I'm down for being the first
01:45 dcook           It could actually work quite well for certain government libraries I'm sure
01:45 dcook           Or really many specials overall
06:16 Dave_J          Hi Folks, I'm trying to create a new opac templates, so I can switch backwards and forwards quickly while designing the opac page. Maybe I've taken the wrong approach... I'm not really changing anything that I can't change with code in the system prefs, but it would be nice when sitting with the artists and librarians to be able to change the default template, reload the OPAC and see the result.
06:35 Dave_J          Sorry Folks, we had a power cut here and I got disconnected. Did anyone reply to my post?
06:36 Dave_J          Apologies on behalf of the power company here in Zim.
06:47 * magnuzzz      waves
06:47 * magnuzzz      wakes up
07:09 drojf           morning #koha
07:11 magnuse         moin drojf
07:11 drojf           hei magnuse
07:12 * magnuse       tries to kickstart the day with some Motörhead
07:12 drojf           nice
07:36 reiveune        hello
07:59 alex_a          bonjour
08:01 jajm            hello
08:11 fridolin        hie
08:15 gaetan_B        hello
08:57 gaetan_B        hello
08:58 magnuse         bonjour gaetan_B
09:01 drojf           hi gaetan_B and fridolin1
09:01 drojf           @wunder sxf
09:01 huginn`         drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 4.0°C (9:50 AM CET on March 01, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
09:02 fridolin1       drojf: hie
09:02 fridolin1       nice cold morning
09:02 drojf           with sunshine
09:03 drojf           a bit too cold for balkony
09:03 drojf           balkony office :D
09:03 fridolin1       ;)
09:03 drojf           balcony even
09:04 magnuse         @wunder enbo
09:04 huginn`         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (9:50 AM CET on March 01, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.12 in 986 hPa (Steady).
09:04 magnuse         not quite ready for balcony office either
09:05 drojf           my balcony needs some spring cleaning before i guess
09:05 fridolin1       drojf: little question about koha-perldeps
09:06 fridolin1       drojf: looks like there is now Business::ISSN in master, but deb is not paquage
09:06 fridolin1       https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libbusiness-issn-perl
09:08 drojf           fridolin1: i think it is in 16.11 but not in 16.05. should be in master
09:13 magnuse         hm, if you leave the "standard value" for 952$2 (source of classification) empty, ddc is still suggested as the default. that seems not quite right
09:14 drojf           fridolin1: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=debian/control;h=209828f996d43d5a7dfc213bb896ff51933dd540;hb=HEAD#l247
09:15 fridolin1       drojf: huuuu, the unstable version of package is 16.06+git ?
09:15 fridolin1       no 16.12 ?
09:16 drojf           oh you are in the unstable repo? use the nightly builds, they are 16.12 https://apt.abunchofthings.net/koha-nightly/
09:16 drojf           the deb in unstable is pretty old, i did not update after i set up the nightly builds
09:16 fridolin1       drojf: ahhhhhhh nice
09:17 drojf           fridolin1: there is a problem because of bug 16034 atm
09:17 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16034 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, RESOLVED FIXED, Integration with OverDrive Patron API
09:18 drojf           to build you need to skip the test
09:20 fridolin1       oki
09:21 magnuse         ah DefaultClassificationSource
09:22 drojf           fridolin1: but the deb in the repo should be the last working version. if you just want to install master
09:23 fridolin1       drojf: yep thanks a lot
09:33 circ-user-tfPdG hello
09:33 circ-user-tfPdG anyone can help on send email alert on koha
09:33 circ-user-tfPdG i am using vps with ip address
09:33 circ-user-tfPdG its possible to configure send email notification ?
10:54 eythian         hi
10:54 eythian         @wunder ams
10:54 huginn`         eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 7.0°C (11:25 AM CET on March 01, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
10:58 drojf           hi eythian
10:58 drojf           @wunder sxf
10:58 huginn`         drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 7.0°C (11:50 AM CET on March 01, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
11:01 * drojf         copies eythian's weather
11:02 eythian         you wouldn't download the weather!
11:13 drojf           hehe
11:22 cait            bug 18186 might be interesting for you drojf
11:22 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18186 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Amounts with decimal comma instead of decimal dot breaking payments
11:22 cait            waiting for the technical details, but it's one of the oddest thing i have run into so far :)
11:23 drojf           i did not know there is turbomarc http://www.indexdata.com/news/2014/06/turbomarc-faster-xml-marc-records
11:24 drojf           cait: that sounds scary
11:24 cait            it drove me nuts
11:24 cait            u. found a solution, asking him to add it to the bug
11:31 drojf           u++
11:31 drojf           :)
11:57 eythian         @karma c
11:57 huginn`         eythian: Karma for "c" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7.
12:02 marcelr         hi #koha
12:03 eythian         hi marcelr
12:03 marcelr         hi eythian
12:14 drojf           hi marcelr
12:14 marcelr         hey drojf
12:40 oleonard        Hi all
12:42 marcelr         hi oleonard
12:42 eythian         hi oleopard
12:42 eythian         (poor wahanui)
12:43 oleonard        Has anyone gotten even a postcard from him?
12:46 drojf           ho ileopard
12:46 drojf           no postcard for me
12:52 tcohen          bonjour
12:53 oleonard        Hi tcohen
12:54 druthb          Good morning, #koha.
12:58 * magnuse       waves
13:35 oleonard        @wunder 45701
13:35 huginn`         oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 15.3°C (8:35 AM EST on March 01, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.57 in 1001 hPa (Rising).  Flash Flood Watch in effect until 7 PM EST this evening... 
13:35 oleonard        Black as night outside.
13:37 druthb          @wunder 77447
13:37 huginn`         druthb: The current temperature in Crescent C Ranch, Hockley, Texas is 20.8°C (7:36 AM CST on March 01, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
14:17 drojf           @later tell tcohen https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=856484
14:17 huginn`         drojf: The operation succeeded.
14:36 ashimema        nice drojf
14:42 cait            drojf++ ? :)
14:54 drojf           ashimema: also https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=856483 ;)
14:54 ashimema        :)
14:55 * drojf         packages all the things
14:56 drojf           now that i finally looked again up how uploading works
14:56 drojf           …
15:09 A__A            Is anyone online, I mean with eyes on this?
15:10 oha             i did, accidentally actually :) A__A
15:10 A__A            Oha.  Typing
15:13 eythian         drojf: the oftc #debian-perl group is very helpful too
15:13 A__A            I am helping to put a small library online, so people can search and reserve etc over the web.  What do we need to do get it installed and running, so we can start adding the data, ie the books?  I notice it talks about Linux.
15:14 drojf           eythian: that is where i learned how uploading works the last time, found it in my logs. for some reason i forget to go there
15:14 eythian         ah yep
15:14 drojf           i should set up autojoin channels i guess
15:16 kidclamp        A__A basic install guide is here https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian
15:20 A__A            kidclamp: so if it turns out the shop's webserver or provider or whatnot is Linux, we should be able to upload the koha system onto the server, yes?
15:21 cait            maybe
15:21 A__A            (Sorry, it's the 2nd day of my investigating options to put the shop's library online.)
15:21 cait            you need root
15:21 cait            i mean be able to run root commands on command line, install things on the server etc. - if you only have web space it will not work
15:21 drojf           A__A: you are going to use koha to sell books?
15:22 A__A            drojf: No, to lend them, as a library.
15:23 A__A            Homeopathy, Steiner, Psychology, Herbal Medicine, etc.
15:23 cait            A__A: where are you located?
15:23 A__A            Whitby, UK
15:24 cait            ah cool :) i once ran into a pharmacy using koha (lending health related books)
15:25 A__A            I will speak to the IT guy, who handles the web stuff, and get his input.  He lives down the road, literally.
15:25 drojf           that is how i imagoined whitby ;)
15:25 drojf           *imagined
15:27 A__A            cait: Thanks for the input.  It's very helpful, believe it or not.  Yes, there's only about 12,000 people - actual residents - in Whitby.  (Or is it houses?  Anyway.)
15:29 A__A            I'll talk to him and log back on tomorrow here.  Tata for now.
15:33 cait            ah... too slow
15:33 cait            requirements is https://koha-community.org/download-koha/
15:59 drojf           later #koha
17:22 reiveune        bye
17:52 tcohen          hi
17:53 kidclamp_lunch  hi uncle tcohen
17:53 tcohen          hehe :-D
17:53 tcohen          hi kidclamp
17:57 tcohen          drojf++
19:08 eythian         @later tell rangi https://www.mirbsd.org/permalinks/wlog-10_e20170301-tg.htm#e20170301-tg_wlog-10
19:08 huginn`         eythian: The operation succeeded.
19:11 mtompset        Greetings, #koha.
19:11 mtompset        @seen tcohen
19:11 huginn`         mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 14 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <tcohen> drojf++
19:11 * druthb        waves to mtompset
19:11 mtompset        Greetings, druthb :)
19:11 mtompset        Anyone else had fun with kohadevbox xenial and mysql issues with apparmor?
19:13 tcohen          hi mtompset I didn't
19:13 tcohen          how fun is that?
19:13 mtompset        Not fun to hear at all, tcohen
19:15 tcohen          mtompset: should we just disable apparmor?
19:16 mtompset        Not if we can get it to play nice.
19:16 tcohen          that means 'fun'
19:17 tcohen          enjoy it :_S
19:29 mtompset        I'm not, tcohen. :P
19:30 mtompset        I disabled it, and I still can't start my MySQL server.
19:30 tcohen          how is that f*ng possible?
19:30 tcohen          it works out of the box (i mean MySQL on 16.04)
19:30 mtompset        I don't know.
19:30 tcohen          we might be breaking it
19:30 tcohen          i do know
19:30 tcohen          we overwrite my.cnf :-D
19:31 tcohen          send me the shipped one from a fresh install
19:34 mtompset        It's not that simple. In Xenial, the did the "let's split everything into directories and #include them"
19:34 mtompset        ^the^they^
19:35 kchris_away     lari: are you there?
19:36 mtompset        I'm experiencing the same sort of Internal Server Error for my Jessie.
19:37 mtompset        So I updated my kohadevbox clone, put the ONE patch that I have (misc4dev requires kohaclone to pre-exist causing the need to provision a second time)
19:37 mtompset        and am in hte midst of recreating from scratch.
19:48 mtompset        tcohen: Do any of your clients use the Google Authentication? Because it is broken in master.
19:49 mtompset        bug 18144 :)
19:49 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18144 critical, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Removal of persona broke openidconnect
19:53 cait            hello all
19:54 cait            meeting in 7 mins
19:55 BobB            good morning #koha
19:57 mtompset        Well, then I best leave. :P ;)
19:57 mtompset        which meeting, cait?
19:58 mtompset        Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha cait BobB tcohen et all.
20:00 cait            one sec
20:02 BobB            hi talljoy, hi bjohnson
20:02 talljoy         hi bobb
20:03 cait            meeting in a minute
20:03 cait            #startmeeting General IRC meeting 1 March 2017
20:03 huginn`         Meeting started Wed Mar  1 20:03:53 2017 UTC.  The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:03 huginn`         Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
20:03 huginn`         The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_1_march_2017'
20:04 cait            #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_1_March_2017 today's agenda
20:04 cait            #topic Introductions
20:04 cait            please introduce yourself with #info!
20:04 talljoy         #info Joy Nelson Bywater Solutions
20:05 BobB            #info Bob Birchall, Calyx, Australia
20:05 cait            #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
20:05 georgewilliams  #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System
20:05 AdamB           #info Adam Brooks ByWater Solutions
20:05 phred           #info Fred King, Washington Hospital Center
20:05 bag             #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater
20:05 lisettelatah    #info Lisette Scheer Latah County Library District
20:05 SWITCH_Staff    #info Jason Palmer SWITCH Library Consortium
20:07 cait            :)
20:07 cait            #topic Announcements
20:07 cait            announcements?
20:08 bag             hackfest in a couple of weeks
20:08 bag             get your tickets :)
20:08 phred           Kind of an announcement--I'm giving a presentation on Koha later this month at the Association of College and Research libraries in Baltimore.
20:08 talljoy         nice phred!
20:08 bag             phred++
20:08 talljoy         phred++
20:08 cait            #indo hackfest in marseille is soon! please register
20:09 phred           Now I just have to finish the project--I was out of work for a month with the flu and sequelae. :-(
20:09 cait            oh
20:09 cait            #info hackfest in marseille is soon! please register
20:09 cait            better
20:09 cait            #info phred is giving a koha presentation at the association of college and research libraries in baltimore later this month
20:09 cait            anything else?
20:09 barton          #info Barton Chittenden
20:09 BobB            would so love to come to Marseille, maybe next year
20:10 caboose_        #info Michael Cabus
20:10 bag             BobB: yes!!! it’s totally worth it
20:10 kchris          #info Chris Kirby, Green Mountain Library Consortium
20:10 cait            ok moving on
20:10 schnydszch      #info Eugene Espinoza philippines
20:11 barton          [oops, forgot 'BWS, Louisville, KY, USA, Earth, SOL]
20:11 cait            #topic Update on releases
20:11 khall_away      #info Kyle Hall, ByWater Solutions
20:11 cait            khall_away? :)
20:11 caboose_        #info update, Michael Cabus, ByWater Solutions, Princeton New Jersey
20:11 bag             not too much to report I think khall_away
20:11 khall_away      cait will be going mobile, mostly read-only ; )
20:12 cait            we just reached update on releases
20:12 cait            all good?
20:12 bag             all good
20:12 khall_away      Yes, nothing noteworthy, pretty standard updates to master
20:12 cait            #info 16.11.04 was released on 22nd, including a lot of bugfixes, planning to stick to schedule for 16.11.05
20:13 cait            anything else about the releases?
20:14 cait            and moving on
20:14 cait            #topic KohaCon
20:15 wizzyrea        #info Liz Rea, Catalyst IT (mostly lurking)
20:15 schnydszch      Okay jusy woke up it's 4AM here ;)
20:15 * cait          sends coffee
20:16 schnydszch      We'd like to thank biblibre and bywaters for emailing us to be sponsorz for kohacon2017
20:16 schnydszch      No
20:16 schnydszch      Sorry i'm mobile
20:17 schnydszch      Infos are in the website kohacon2017philippines.com
20:18 schnydszch      Call for papers deadline march 15, 2017. We might be extending it to march 30, 2017
20:18 bag             do you have papers submitted already?  recieved?
20:19 cait            #info Thanks to biblibre and bywater solutions for sponsoring kohacon17!
20:19 cait            #info Infos are on the website:  kohacon2017philippines.com
20:19 thd             #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
20:19 cait            #info Call for papers ends on march 15th, might be extended to end of march
20:19 schnydszch      Yep. Pail poulain has expressed two topics. Intro and if chris will be attending, they'll do it again :)
20:22 schnydszch      Other topics will be presented in the next meeting since it's not yet finalized. Additional topics: biblibre's Koha-Coral integration
20:23 schnydszch      Additional sponsor: EBSCO Gobi library solutions (they've sent interest last week of january) and alvet miranda will again be presenting/updating on koha-eds
20:24 schnydszch      Participant pre-registration has reach the 50 mark.
20:25 schnydszch      We will be expecting more once we go full blast on local participants.
20:25 cait            #info 50 registrations so far!
20:26 cait            sounds like things are going well overall
20:26 cait            cool
20:26 cait            moving on?
20:26 cait            or ar there questions for schnydszch?
20:26 schnydszch      Yeah that's all so far.. :)
20:27 schnydszch      Will go back to sleep :)
20:27 cait            thx schnydszch
20:27 schnydszch      If there are no more qu3stions :)
20:27 schnydszch      You're welcome cait
20:27 cait            schnydszch: is sponsorship working out?
20:27 phred           sweet dreams!
20:28 thd             schnydszch: Have you a plan for recording presentations for those who cannot be present?
20:29 schnydszch      Yes cait. But we haven't received yet any. Some are feelers. We're pretty good so far as the deadline is april 30 for sponsorships
20:29 schnydszch      Ys we can set up
20:30 schnydszch      As there's already one who already asked if they can present remotely
20:31 cait            NateC is not around - I tihnk we are going to skip the next topic on the agenda
20:31 cait            does somoene want to propose another topic to discuss?
20:32 cait            ah
20:32 schnydszch      *received any = received actual sponsorship deposits
20:32 cait            #info Please add your proposals for KohaCon18 to the wiki if you are interested in hosting it!
20:32 cait            thd: do we have a deadline?
20:32 thd             We had not established a deadline.
20:33 cait            it's still early and no applications yet
20:33 thd             Exactly
20:33 cait            #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon18_Proposals
20:33 cait            ok, if there is nothing else, i will mov eon to setting the date/time of the next meeting
20:33 cait            #topic Set time of next meeting
20:34 cait            i am a bit out of the loop - does someone know how this works currently?
20:34 cait            april 5th
20:34 cait            but the time?
20:34 thd             10 UTC has been the recent alternate if I am not mistaken.
20:34 cait            hm wiki says 14
20:34 thd             My mistake
20:34 cait            https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings
20:34 thd             yes 14
20:35 cait            ok
20:35 thd             this is the alternate to 14
20:35 cait            #agreed Next meeting will be on 5 April 2017, 14 UTC
20:35 cait            thx everyone for attending!
20:35 cait            #endmeeting
20:35 huginn`         Meeting ended Wed Mar  1 20:35:40 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
20:35 huginn`         Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_1_march_2017.2017-03-01-20.03.html
20:35 huginn`         Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_1_march_2017.2017-03-01-20.03.txt
20:35 huginn`         Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_1_march_2017.2017-03-01-20.03.log.html
20:35 thd             [14 has sometimes been 10 local time for me ;)]
20:36 BobB            thaniks cait
20:36 BobB            its actually nice to have a short one
20:36 BobB            the day begins ....
20:36 caboose_        thanks cait!
20:37 georgewilliams  thanks cait
20:38 thd             BobB: Yes brief is good but low attendance has also meant that much of the agenda could not be addressed even if we addressed what was really important for today.
20:39 kchris          Thanks cait!
20:39 cait            yw :)
20:40 cait            i am out of practice - kidclamp++
20:40 georgewilliams  BobB - I agree - brief is good - but I also agree with thd - didn't seem like much happened
20:41 georgewilliams  this was the first meeting I've been to in a couple of years - the last meeting I attended was so fast I couldn't keep up - this one was much slower
20:41 thd             Alas there will never be a perfect meeting time for such an internationally distributed project.
20:41 georgewilliams  thd: agree
20:41 georgewilliams  adios everyone
20:42 cait            georgewilliams: there are all a bit different, this time slot is usually a bit faster/quiet
20:42 cait            it's a bit late for europe
20:42 cait            please also feel always free to add topics to the agenda that you want to discuss
20:43 * thd           runs for his laundry and visiting French teacher in hospital :(  More for Koha tomorrow.
22:47 siletzlib       Anybody here?