Time Nick Message 23:03 Francesca lol 23:03 dcook </trivia> 23:03 dcook The proximity of the towns Endeavour and Rama is surely coincidental with the space ships Rama and Endeavour in the novel Rendezvous with Rama. But it's a coincidence that tickles me. 23:02 dcook https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendezvous_with_Rama 23:02 dcook https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rama,_Saskatchewan 23:02 dcook https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endeavour,_Saskatchewan 23:02 dcook For sci fi nerds: 23:01 dcook One of my family branches came from Norway 23:00 dcook Lots of Scandinavian immigrants in Saskatchewan actually 23:00 dcook Although looking at the link, now I know why it has that name! 23:00 dcook I always found this one odd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kandahar,_Saskatchewan 23:00 dcook There are some interesting town names in Saskatchewan as well.. 22:59 dcook Most Canadians live quite close to the US border really 22:58 dcook Looks like we were the bottom 1/3 :p 22:58 Francesca ohh cool link 22:58 andreashm I take that back! 22:58 dcook andreashm: I guess we were still fairly south. Probably... 6 hours from the border? 22:58 dcook Francesca: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saskatchewan#Etymology 22:57 andreashm unless you where right by the us border I guess. =) 22:56 andreashm Pretty far north 22:55 dcook Hmm looks like I said something about this in 2013.. 22:54 Francesca Saskatchewan is a cool name 22:54 * andreashm is innocent 22:54 andreashm =) 22:54 * dcook wonders who wrote that.. 22:54 wahanui rumour has it Saskatchewan is warmer than the East for once 22:54 dcook andreashm: Saskatchewan 22:53 dcook And now my wife has had her first white Christmas, I think she might want it to be her last :p 22:53 andreashm Where in Canada? 22:53 andreashm lucky there! 22:53 dcook Fortunately, we missed the -40 weather by a few days 22:53 dcook I really like Christmas in Canada :) 22:53 andreashm nice 22:52 Francesca we had christmas there one year and it was awesome 22:52 Francesca my stepfather is canadian 22:52 Francesca I like canada 22:52 Francesca ohhh canada 22:51 dcook I know the feeling. It was good visiting Canada, but it's nice being back in Australia. 22:51 andreashm Yup. Have had a nice time here, but am looking forward to coming home now. 22:50 dcook Ahh. Very cool :) 22:49 andreashm Me and the family is tagging along. 22:49 andreashm My wife has a post doc position here. 22:48 dcook Interesting location. There for family? 22:47 andreashm Sion, in Valais (south-west, French speaking) 22:47 * dcook likes Switzerland but has never been to Sweden.. 22:47 * Francesca has never been 22:47 Francesca Switzerland and Sweden are pretty cool places 22:47 dcook Whereabouts in Switzerland? 22:47 andreashm will 22:47 dcook ahh 22:47 andreashm yes, was. wil be back in august though (probably) 22:47 dcook Permanent relocation? 22:47 dcook Ahh 22:46 dcook Actually, where are you located these days? You seem to often be hoping around 22:46 andreashm Sweden originally, Switzerland at the moment. 22:46 dcook Or... was? 22:46 dcook Francesca: andreashm is in Sweden :) 22:46 Francesca I'll come too 22:46 Francesca where abouts in europe? 22:46 dcook andreashm: I love that idea 22:46 Francesca ohh europe 22:46 andreashm dcook: or come to europe! =) 22:46 dcook Actually, I could visit the one in Sydney. I think I met someone from there a while ago.. 22:46 Francesca you should! 22:46 dcook One of these days, I'll have to come and visit the Catalyst office in Wellington! 22:46 andreashm The power of level 9! 22:45 dcook (or as low as it goes I guess) 22:45 wizzycray ha, no 22:45 dcook But 8 is as high as it goes! 22:45 Francesca lol nope 22:45 dcook http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bdleader.html 22:45 dcook Although I thought maybe you meant the encoding level of the cataloguing! 22:45 dcook Ahh, I figured that must be what you meant 22:42 Francesca I'm up on lvl 9 cataloging their books 22:41 Francesca dcook: I'm at work/catalyst 22:41 dcook andreashm: :D 22:41 dcook Level 9? 22:40 * andreashm is reading an e-mail from dcook, that he forgot to look at earlier. 22:40 Francesca currently doing level 9 22:40 Francesca yup 22:40 dcook How about you, Francesca? Cataloguing books? 22:40 andreashm hehe 22:39 dcook Time consuming but awesome 22:39 dcook Being a dad is awesome 22:39 dcook Mm busy busy 22:39 dcook ikr? 22:37 Francesca long time no see/speak 22:36 Francesca sup 22:36 dcook heya andreashm and Francesca :) 22:33 andreashm hi dcook! 22:32 * Francesca waves at dcook 22:32 * dcook waves to andreashm 22:32 * dcook feels like Francesca is asking all the tough questions 22:26 Francesca but thanks! 22:26 Francesca sorry 22:26 Francesca ok 22:26 wizzycray I'll come up there ;) 22:26 Francesca what do I do with art/photography books 22:25 Francesca wizzycray: another question sorry 22:20 * Francesca moves on 22:20 Francesca k 22:20 wizzycray just bring it down with you 22:20 Francesca yeah 22:20 wizzycray bleh. 22:20 Francesca nope 22:19 wizzycray you don't have a ztarget record for it? 22:19 wizzycray yeah, that's a special cataloguing case 22:19 Francesca ^wizzyrea 22:19 Francesca do I include all on the record? 22:19 Francesca also when a book/manual has many many authors for like different things ie writing, editing, project managment 22:15 Francesca thanks 22:15 Francesca k 22:14 wizzycray of the record you create 22:14 wizzycray yep, you just leave that off 22:14 Francesca I've got a couple up here with part numbers 22:13 Francesca a question for you: if a book doesn't have a ISBN or ISSN do I catalog it? 22:13 Francesca hey wizzyrea if you're there 20:53 wizzycray ^.^ 20:53 eythian wizzycray: going to FOSDEM won't help it turns out ;) 20:52 * wizzycray suddenly misses eythian very much 20:47 eythian I probably wasn't paying much attention, too :) 20:42 liw but I rarely advertise my personal life in public 20:42 liw been back in fi since 2014 :) 20:42 eythian Ah, you're back there? Maybe I should visit some time. 20:41 liw eythian, I'm afraid I can't stay there to wait for you then, but you can always visit Finland during the summer 20:40 eythian liw: no, but I should have. Will have to go next year. 20:36 liw eythian, aya, are you? 20:33 eythian liw: going to FOSDEM eh? 20:28 huginn liw: Error: No such location could be found. 20:28 liw @wunder brussels 20:27 bag I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!| hehe I still remember that - I can’t eat almonds without giggling about that 19:36 * oleonard waves to rangi 19:34 mtompset Have a great day, #koha cait kidclamp 19:32 mtompset Greetings, kidclamp cait 19:32 kidclamp hi cait cat 19:31 cait hi kidclamp ;) 19:25 kidclamp heh, oops 19:22 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 19:20 rangi heh 19:19 wahanui ...but rangi is <reply> I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!|<reply> I like cupcakes, cupcakes are good.... 19:19 eythian wahanui: rangi is not usually a cat 19:18 kidclamp hi rangi cat 19:16 cait morning rangi 19:11 rangi morning 16:42 andreashm bye #koha 16:40 andreashm cait: thanks! 16:27 cait andreashm: we hide things there all the time - should ot give you any trouble :) 16:17 Arianit ideally would be considering each other as branches of a library system 16:16 Arianit tcohen: can they exchange data of any sort? 16:16 andreashm hi btw! =) 16:16 andreashm thanks magnuse! 16:15 magnuse deleting things might have consequences 16:15 magnuse andreashm: yeah, hiding should be ok 16:13 andreashm I know its a big no-no to change the Default framework, but just hiding some fields shouldn't be a problem right? Just unchecking Editor for the fields we want hidden (from items/952), right? 16:08 tcohen Arianit: 'talk' is too vague 16:08 * andreashm is apparently very bad at writing SQL reports. Had one that accidently ran at our production server and created a 126 GB temp file, before the process was killed. =) 16:08 Arianit Hi, Do Koha and Aleph talk to each other in any way? Would need to connect an Aleph and a Koha branch for example regarding ILL or being able to read what is in each other's catalog. Is there documentation about this? 16:07 andreashm what's up? 16:07 andreashm hi cait! 16:04 cait hey andreashm :) 16:04 cait hey andre :) 15:59 * andreashm misses all the meeting these days. sigh. 15:59 * andreashm goes looking through the logs 15:57 wahanui ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.|a little bit creepy.|right sometimes|a strange duck|a bot...|rumoured to be a sentient bot with sass|<reply> an extremely creepy stalker bot.... you have been warned|a parrot|<reply> wrong|<reply> on fire|<reply> gaining knowledge faster than sustainable|canadian|google|<reply> wahanui couldn't be bothered to show up|laser kiwi of the bo 15:57 tcohen wahanui: you are outdated 15:57 wahanui i think a general meeting is 8 April 2015 at 19:00 UTC 15:57 tcohen yes, a general meeting 15:57 andreashm was there a meeting yesterday? 15:55 tcohen jaja 15:55 tcohen maybe while (not $(vagrant provision)) do skip; done 15:55 andreashm tcohen++ 15:55 andreashm thanks tcohen! 15:55 andreashm yay, it went past it! 15:54 * andreashm thinks it will take, oh, perhaps 6 provisions. =) 15:54 tcohen I will provide the fix for kohadevbox ASAP once I finish something I'm stuck with :-( 15:53 tcohen :-D 15:53 tcohen vagrant provision 15:53 andreashm =) 15:53 andreashm alright, back at it then! 15:53 andreashm ok. but it stops the ansible playbook. how can I continue? 15:53 tcohen just keep provisioning 15:53 tcohen and is unrelated 15:53 tcohen andreashm: that test deps step fails regularly 15:51 andreashm I had problems with mine, so I did a vagrant destroy and started a new one. had the same problem as the guy on the mailinglist. just tryig to continue with vagrant provision doesn't work, it creates more issues (now its Install testing dependencies (cpanm) that fails) 15:51 rod I thought I would not find a server that still existed user 15:50 andreashm tcohen: were you able to fix that issue with kohadevbox that was mentioned on devel? 15:50 tcohen rod: argentina? 15:49 andreashm hi all 15:49 rod alguem do brasil?? 15:49 rod hii 15:45 LibraryClaire laters #koha 15:40 reiveune bye 15:18 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #103: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/103/ 15:16 kidclamp brb 15:02 tcohen I never had it die 15:02 cait has it ever died for you? or stable? 15:00 tcohen you managed to 15:00 tcohen glad to hear 15:00 tcohen heh 14:59 cait took me a while to persuade 14:59 cait it still has the 'experimental' flag in our version :) 14:58 tcohen :-P 14:58 tcohen cait: it took you 2 years to trust me! 14:58 cait i've just tested it in our biggest library - it's wonderful 14:58 tcohen :-D 14:58 tcohen exactly 14:58 tcohen then you need to do it manually 14:58 tcohen if you don't change defaults/koha-common 14:57 cait coudl that be it? 14:57 cait in .default 14:57 cait it seems we had to chagne do yes 14:57 cait ok, u. said he solved it :) 14:57 tcohen that takes care of launching rebuild_zebra.pl -d (daemonized) 14:57 tcohen koha-indexer is a shell script 14:57 tcohen fro --start 14:57 tcohen but it is the same 14:57 tcohen that's for restarting 14:56 tcohen 93 fi 14:56 tcohen 92 koha-indexer --restart --quiet $(koha-list --enabled) 14:56 tcohen 91 if [ "$USE_INDEXER_DAEMON" = "yes" ]; then 14:56 cait sorry, trying to wrap my head around it 14:55 tcohen ^^ that command is conditional to what you have in /etc/defaults/koha-common 14:55 tcohen koha-indexer --start $(koha-list --enabled) 14:55 cait we are trying to activate it in 3.22 i shoudl say, but I haven't seen more work for later versions i think 14:55 tcohen it calls something like 14:55 tcohen look at /etc/init.d/koha-common 14:54 tcohen ah 14:54 tcohen what about it 14:54 cait when you reboot... it's gone? is that normal or are we missing something? 14:54 wahanui koha-indexer is a helper script for packages 14:54 cait tcohen: koha-indexer 14:52 tcohen whatsup 14:52 tcohen cait: sort of 14:50 cait tcohen: around? 14:11 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes 14:11 kellym good morning! 13:58 drojf bye #koha 13:48 kidclamp yeah, I hope to rival larryb someday - he has very villiany cats too 13:48 LibraryClaire kidclamp I hope you have been practising your dastardly laugh too 13:47 wahanui nope is http://i.imgur.com/flFgB.gif 13:47 cait nope please 13:47 LibraryClaire cait is shaking her head at me 13:47 LibraryClaire :D 13:46 oleonard Okay actually that looks good on you LibraryClaire, go for it. 13:46 kidclamp at this point oleonard I have to tie at least 1 person to railroad tracks a week or I don't feel right 13:46 * LibraryClaire twirls imaginary moustache 13:45 oleonard Think of how much work kidclamp would get done if he weren't twirling his mustache menacingly all the time. 13:43 kidclamp it's a terrible addiction LibraryClaire, don't do it 13:42 * LibraryClaire considers growing a moustache 13:41 * LibraryClaire had also wondered about this 13:41 oleonard It was foremost in my mind. 13:40 kidclamp thanks for asking 13:40 kidclamp things are all set oleonard, I refilled my two tins and about 5 chapstick tubes as an experiment - new wax is very beeswaxy 13:40 * oleonard waits for a mustache wax update from kidclamp 13:37 LibraryClaire :) 13:36 * cait better never falls aslep on the desk ... 13:33 oleonard oi 13:33 * LibraryClaire waits for oleonard to fall asleep, marker pen at the ready 13:31 wahanui bonjour, edveal 13:31 edveal Hello 13:30 * oleonard too sleepy 12:52 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #102: ABORTED in 1 min 29 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/102/ 12:50 tcohen hi jenkins 12:50 * magnuse waves 12:50 wahanui hi oleopard 12:50 LibraryClaire hi oleonard 12:50 oleonard Hi all 12:50 drojf hi tcohen 12:49 tcohen hi cait drojf 12:49 drojf hi cait 12:49 * cait waves 12:44 LibraryClaire hey marcelr 12:44 marcelr hi LibraryClaire and tcohen 12:43 LibraryClaire hola tcohen 12:38 tcohen hola #koha 12:20 drojf and blames trump 12:20 drojf and the nightlies 12:20 drojf and burns the vm 12:20 * drojf sighs 12:20 drojf marcelr: sorry nightly is broken and my dev vm and i don't have time to look into this atm because it will probably take forever, like everything in koha that looks like it can be tested in 5 minutes 12:18 Joubu :) 12:17 Joubu marcelr: ⤠12:17 Joubu marcelr: please do not hate me 12:15 Joubu marcelr: I'd prefer someone else to add QA stamp on this one, sorry 12:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15545 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Optionally make hold notes required when placing a hold (via Koha::Plugin) 12:13 marcelr Joubu: about bug 15545 (hmm), would you mind passing qa on the second patch only when I just remove the call to IsHoldNoteRequired and leave it 0 as a first step ? second patch is also cleaning up the template 12:09 marcelr drojf: any relation to <dev_install> suspected in koha-conf.xml ? 12:08 drojf can't install the nightly. interesting 12:06 marcelr it must be the path 12:06 drojf marcelr: ok, but i broke koha-common now so i got to fix that first 12:06 Joubu yes I do not understand how you can have a different behavior unless you are not using the patched files 12:05 marcelr drojf: it sounds like your path goes to the older Templates.pm? can you check , add a debug warn or so 12:04 marcelr ah 12:04 Joubu gms looks like regex modifiers, it is always better to have x as well 12:03 marcelr ?? 12:03 Joubu you forgot x 12:02 marcelr no 12:02 drojf d 12:02 drojf very short passwort 12:02 marcelr oops 12:02 marcelr gsm 12:01 drojf i ran it in koha-shell on a gitified vm 12:01 drojf hm 12:01 drojf yes 12:01 marcelr current master? 12:00 drojf yes 12:00 Joubu (just in case ;)) 12:00 Joubu drojf: with the 2 patches applied? 11:59 Joubu pass for me 11:56 drojf marcelr: ^ 11:55 pastebot "drojf" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha-koha@jessie:/home/mirko/k" (58 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/297 11:54 marcelr my test passes 11:54 marcelr which one exactly 11:52 marcelr let me look 11:52 drojf marcelr: t/db_dependent/Templates.t still fails for me with the second patch 11:47 marcelr that would be great 11:46 drojf i'll have a look 11:46 marcelr 18010 11:46 marcelr did you see it? 11:45 marcelr drojf: i have another sec bug for you ? 11:45 marcelr good idea 11:42 drojf coffee! 11:40 marcelr back 11:31 marcelr brb 11:16 Joubu marcelr: you are welcome! 11:15 marcelr thx Joubu++ 11:08 marcelr hi drojf 11:02 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Berlin, Germany is -0.8°C (11:58 AM CET on February 02, 2017). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 11:02 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 10:26 marcelr hi eythian 10:26 eythian hoi marcelr 10:24 marcelr hi #koha 09:40 mtj yes ^ 09:40 mtj the guy who did pico8 is from nz 09:39 eythian though, it's probably worth putting a couple of regular chips into the order to make the shipping more worthwhile :) 09:39 eythian yeah, they're kinda neat. 09:38 mtj i think im gonna have to buy one myself eythian - a pocketchip 09:25 mtj woah.. amazing 09:22 eythian https://getchip.com/pages/chip <-- a pile of these 09:22 mtj you are using something similar to an rpi? .. or all virtual machines? 09:20 eythian I need to do some more work on it though, still need to make a new kernel. 09:20 eythian mtj: no rpis involved! 09:18 mtj ..hows your rpi supercomputer project going? 09:17 mtj hiya eythian :0) 09:17 mtj prove -j 4 t/db_dependent reduced from 4m13, to 1m18 09:17 eythian hello LibraryClaire 09:17 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 5.2°C (10:13 AM CET on February 02, 2017). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling). 09:17 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz 09:16 LibraryClaire hi eythian 09:16 eythian 100% humidity, and it doesn't even look foggy. 09:16 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 7.0°C (9:55 AM CET on February 02, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 09:16 eythian @wunder ams 09:14 eythian hi 09:05 mtj t/db_dependent/00-strict.t (and similar) could be a big win for a parallel/threads tweak 09:01 cait ah :) 09:01 mtj http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17128354/can-testclass-tests-be-run-in-parallel-or-how-to-factor-out-superclass-tests 08:57 mtj https://saucelabs.com/blog/running-your-selenium-tests-in-parallel-perl 08:54 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B 08:53 mtj http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/2013/12/merry-christmas-parallel-testing-with-testclassmoose-has-arrived.html 08:52 mtj .would be handy for hudson builds and packages 08:52 mtj perhaps speeding up the koha tests 08:51 cait what are you guys talking about? :) 08:50 magnuse mtj++ for that nugget of information 08:47 drojf i think the nightly server only has one core. but my build vm should have two, maybe 4 threads 08:47 drojf indeed! 08:42 mtj ..seems promising :p 08:42 mtj prove -j 4 ./t reduced from 126 to 30 secs 08:40 drojf yep i guess more than one job per core does not make it faster 08:39 mtj i get the same time using 4 or 9 .. on a 4 core vm 08:36 mtj number of jobs 08:35 drojf 9 is number of cores then? 08:35 drojf *and see 08:35 drojf thanks, i'll see what is in there and if i can tweak it 08:33 mtj we seem to get a nice speedup for building and test-suite, by running jobs in parallel 08:33 drojf *not 08:33 drojf ot that i know. the build process runs the tests automatically, not sure what the parameters are 08:30 mtj hiya, have you played with prove -j 9 , when building packages? 08:28 drojf mtj: kind of 08:27 mtj ping drojf, abouty ? 08:21 wahanui fetch is working for me tcohen 08:21 LibraryClaire wahanui fetch 08:21 * LibraryClaire throws stick 08:20 wahanui reiveune is working for biblibre 08:20 LibraryClaire hey reiveune 08:12 reiveune hello 08:04 LibraryClaire what is wintercamp? 08:04 wahanui somebody said fridolin was busy at the moment, I asked him to backport the bug fix 08:04 LibraryClaire hey fridolin 08:03 fridolin last day for me in wintercamp, biers where realy good ;) 08:03 fridolin hie tehjre 07:43 magnuse windchill-- 07:43 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 02, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 07:43 magnuse @wunder enbo 07:36 LibraryClaire i dunno, felt like wet fog to me 07:36 drojf how is that fog freezing at ~5° anyway? 07:33 drojf :P 07:33 drojf you can keep that, i just want your ° 07:31 LibraryClaire we have light freezing fog 07:31 LibraryClaire wecome to the south 07:30 drojf 11 even 07:30 drojf you have like 10 more °. that's unfair 07:30 drojf hi LibraryClaire 07:28 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 4.7°C (8:23 AM CET on February 02, 2017). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 07:28 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz 07:28 LibraryClaire moin drojf 07:22 drojf eeek 07:22 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Berlin, Germany is -6.5°C (8:18 AM CET on February 02, 2017). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 07:22 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 07:15 josef_moravec hi LibraryClaire 07:14 LibraryClaire hi josef_moravec 07:14 josef_moravec morning #koha 07:06 magnuse guten morgen BüchereiKlara 07:05 LibraryClaire morning magnuse 07:05 LibraryClaire hah 07:05 magnuzzz ...and then wakes up 07:05 * magnuzzz waves 07:05 LibraryClaire morning #koha 06:40 drojf hi #koha